Haha! Good problems to have for sure! 30 years ago, I didn't know if I was going to eat, or even if I'd have a roof over where I was sleeping... So glad these are my dilemmas today! 😅
I once drove an NSX and 458 back to back. I actually had a bigger grin behind the wheel of the NSX. What a riot. An early example without power steering would be my choice
@@sportzntouringDefinitely need a pre powersteering nsx, I honestly think its one of the best drivers cars to ever exist. Its raw, amazing powerband, sound and reliable
Really enjoy watching these kinds of videos James and Ant on a quiet Sunday morning with a cup of tea. I've been contemplating what my next car might be for a while now....I'm enjoying the journey
If you enjoy the R8 with the glorious V10, I'd look at the huracan performante. It an R8 underneath just with more of a flair and edge. Definitely an occasion kind of car
I would be suggesting buying a classic car to go alongside the fleet, a pre 1983 would cost next to nothing to run annually so additional expenses would be minimised. As for something that is modifiable then it’s choose your poison from Escorts to Minis, MGs to Triumphs, Reliants or even TVRs.
I currently own a R8 V10 performance, Lamborghini Huracan Evo, Roma, 488 GTB and a 488 Spider. The 488 is in my opinion in a league of it's own, it can do it all and with a 500 eur Capristo valve controller it actually sounds fantastic
Well, I'm not sure how old you are but I'm in my 50s now and it's only been in recent years I've had these considerations. Hopefully you'll have them sooner in life.
@sportzntouring thank you sir. I have a plan in place to achieve these goals but yes it will take many decades to achieve that. I'm early in my career in IT, 24 years old. Aim is by the time I'm in my 50s, compound interest on investments will have worked their magic. Hopefully I can stay commited! Thank you for the reply, it genuinely is motovating
I sold my r8 v10 after 9 years and went into a H perf spyder for 3x the price coz it’s limited and an r8 on steroid. It’s relative cheap to run and I can send it to my Audi mechanics. That’s if u are replacing the gt. But if u want to keep the gt which is limited and has that heavenly v10 sound, it sounds like a GT3 that James suggested would be a good pairing; it’s a better track car than the gt, better handling, doesn’t sound as good but retains value and is cheap to run. A droptop alternative is the 718 spider manual which is already discontinued, but may not feel as special as the gt3. I have been cautious about jumping into faster cars, coz I find it harder to appreciate slower cars after u get used to next tier of power. I learned my lesson from the f430, which I find underwhelming after having owned the r8 for some time. I jumped into the 458 and was very happy, even tho it lost a lot of feel from the 430. But that specialness is fixed after I x pipes it with sport cats and it screams like a f1 car. I then added the scud which holds a candle of its own against the 458 coz it feels special and shifts violently. 675LT is prob better in value retention, but 720s can be had for the same money. Mcs are like way faster Porsches that is pricier to run and loses value with more exotic flair. My only worry with these cars is what’s next? Once u get used to the speed (tune or not) U would be bored with all Porsches and older Ferraris or even all lambos and looks like only a 765LT can fill what’s next, and u lose the window to savor slower, characterful cars. I see this first hand from friends who tuned their 650s or 720s to 800 hp and beyond. Like James I want a lambo v12, slow and handles bad but the sound and design makes it worthwhile. The running costs are no joke, that’s why I m not ready to add it. What a major repair spent in a year is more than what I spent across 5 years over 5 cars. A 570s might be a nice pairing with the gt, cost about the same as Ferrari to run and prices are pretty depreciated. 600lt 720s 765lt has more room to fall. Getting a v12 lambo to replace the gt is ok but I suspect u will end up driving the Z a lot more coz it’s always in the shop for something, mechanic pool is limited also. Besides, the v12 has more room to fall value wise, they made a ton of them. I find 488 extremely ugly, f8 is fine as an in between model perhaps pista is best for the design and perf in that power tier but it’s prob out of the budget. Also, same issue, next would prob be a 296gtb or sf90 which are losing value fast. I currently have perf spyder, scud, 458 and gt3rs I would love to add a v12 (not front engine f12 or 812 coz of the design and inability to put down power safely). Another pairing to the gt is an amg gtr, (blk series isn’t worth the money at 3x) u can get warranties on it and great blend of luxury and perf, not as iconic looking as the SLS but iconic enough than the new gt and retains that amg v8 sound despite the turbos. Lotus Emira and new nsx is also nice pairing to the gt.. even tho neither is super special in any particular category. F type v8 is a lot of car for the money, but that’s prob in between the Z and GT
If you don’t have to own another exotic car - consider getting a good condition (not made anymore so aftermarket only) Subaru WRX STI. I’ve owned a 911 turbo, a bmw m5, and currently have a Porsche gt3. But honestly for the price, practically, exhaust sound and the fun (dirt roads you can fully lock differential for example) it’s the only car that I continue to own- all my high performance cars are “disposable” aka I trade them in for variety once in a while. But that relatively cheap Subi holds a special place in my heart
The 675LT is a very special car on the limit, McLaren set it up perfectly. I instantly thought of a NSX R, but modding one of those would be like defacing the Mona Lisa Left field option and the one I would go for is a Nissan GTR Liberty Walk, definitely on my lotto list.
Get the MC Stradale. Neither would ever have a chance of sounding half as good or look half as good., and seeing a GT MC stradale bombing down a track does have a strange sense of majesty to it.
This is a "Problem" I would very much like to have in my life... I'm going to chuck out a couple of random suggestions that might go in the "as well as" category: Couple of Alfa's; the 4C; rare, kind of forgotten, apparently quite hard suspension, you don't see many around and should be quite a different prospect to the Z and R8. It blows the budget, but the ultimate modern Alfa; the 8C. Expensive as heck but if you want a dream car that everyone has forgotten, it fits that bill. BMW M6 V10. Yes the con-rod bearings but it would sit between the Z and R8; not a sports car, not a super car. Utter inappropriate for commuting. Sounds like it would be too comfortable though. Mods wise, getting them manual swapped is apparently transformative.
Not an obvious choice but what about keep the R8 and have an AM Rapide AMR? Amazing sound, beautiful to look at and has the additional practicality of four seats on the rare occasion you may want it. Just a thought 🤔
Interesting point about the thorney warranty. Max claim of 10k and doesn’t cover quite a bit. Great idea but not a big issue will see that 10k limit breached I imagine.
When I last spoke to them, they said the biggest issues they encountered were the gearbox needing rebuilding, or the heads - both of which were covered by the £10k limit
@@JayEmmOnCars it’s the engine rod failure that is the issue and the other exclusions. Great company by all accounts but with how McLaren’s are their warranty isn’t enough (cover wise) to get me into a 570gt as the next car, which is a shame.
You and Anthony are more than welcome to drive my V12 Vantage manual for the channel. It's got the Bamford Rose primary decat with high flow secondaries. It sounds simply magnificent.
That Nissan will be worth a fortune one day soon and the R 8 in all fairness is about as good as it gets so don't change just because you got talked in to it
@sportzntouring that's really cool to hear, lots of vids to catch up from your channel! I have an early upgraded db9 so feel very lucky with that...got my ambitions set high watching you guys!
Ahhh, that would be true if it was a normal R8... But, this is a GT... With this edition, they threw the idea of a daily driven supercar out of the window and created something very different. The chassis and engine frame aren't even the same... Has it's own chassis code and comes on ride-height adjustable Bilstein coilovers as standard.
I thought this friend had a ferrari California or portofino at one point? Unless Im mixing him up. I think he should get a R8, or one of those Cali ferraris. But he seems to want something "cool".
Just a thought but are you slightly losing touch with your audience? We all like looking at special cars and good luck to you buying them but a feature about someone else having dilemmas about buying cars most of us could only dream of…?
We'll, from the comments, it seems that there's many who appreciate the video, even if it's living vicariously through our conversation. There's always going to be some who don't. Sorry this one wasn't for you. I hope you find some other videos here that are for you.
Hum…i agree with his feeling: I also drove both and initially was interested in the GTR but then bought the 370z. It’s not to dismiss the GTR at all. It’s just that if you are the type of person who would really love a nice 370z, you tend to be slightly less attracted to the GTR. And then it feels like you can’t have the GTR, you don’t lust for it, even though you also find the GTR to be terrific.
No, I said after my next mod, it's going to have the basically the same power... And with the suspension tuning I've done, the ride and handling it's not a million miles away. I've driven both so it's based on experience... But I might be a bit biased towards my Z 😜
@@sportzntouring that’s fair enough and being honest I’m probably biased against Z’s (yes there are petrol heads who do like Z’s). This due to bad experiences with a couple of 350z and 370z owners but I shouldn’t let this influence my opinion of a car and the culture around it. I just tried, I still hate Z’s🤷🏻♂️. Good video with you and Jay nonetheless. Keep up the good work.
In relation to ride and handling... Yeah, they feel not a million miles apart, both have great grip, feel balanced and rotate centrally, have great steering feel... And, I said my next mod will make the power not far off. As I've driven both, you'll just have to take my word for it 😉
Working hard to create these kinds of problems in my own life 😅
Haha! Good problems to have for sure! 30 years ago, I didn't know if I was going to eat, or even if I'd have a roof over where I was sleeping... So glad these are my dilemmas today! 😅
Absolutely. It's like watching two bald men fighting over a comb.
I once drove an NSX and 458 back to back. I actually had a bigger grin behind the wheel of the NSX. What a riot. An early example without power steering would be my choice
I'm now even more intrigued by the NSX!!
@@sportzntouringDefinitely need a pre powersteering nsx, I honestly think its one of the best drivers cars to ever exist. Its raw, amazing powerband, sound and reliable
The new Honda NSX. Future proofed hybrid. Amazing. Rapid. Limited. Practical etc. bet you could do it up with wheels and suspension. Proper value
Love these kind of videos.
Can’t wait to watch the follow up with some test drives.
Awesome! Thanks for letting us know!
LOVE the original NSX, but how about the new one too?
I have considered it but the styling doesn't connect with me for some reason.
Really enjoyed watching 2 mates talk about cars. My vote is the NSX.
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it!
Really enjoy watching these kinds of videos James and Ant on a quiet Sunday morning with a cup of tea. I've been contemplating what my next car might be for a while now....I'm enjoying the journey
If you enjoy the R8 with the glorious V10, I'd look at the huracan performante. It an R8 underneath just with more of a flair and edge. Definitely an occasion kind of car
I think I'd also like to try the Gallardo Superleg
I would be suggesting buying a classic car to go alongside the fleet, a pre 1983 would cost next to nothing to run annually so additional expenses would be minimised. As for something that is modifiable then it’s choose your poison from Escorts to Minis, MGs to Triumphs, Reliants or even TVRs.
Nice idea! I've always craved a 240z. Quite fancy a MZR
I currently own a R8 V10 performance, Lamborghini Huracan Evo, Roma, 488 GTB and a 488 Spider. The 488 is in my opinion in a league of it's own, it can do it all and with a 500 eur Capristo valve controller it actually sounds fantastic
Nice collection!!
Great dilemma 😊
Hi James. Hope your doing well.
That was a cool video, i loved all of those cars in it.
Stay safe and take care.
I need to do whatever it takes to have these sort of problems in life 😅
Well, I'm not sure how old you are but I'm in my 50s now and it's only been in recent years I've had these considerations. Hopefully you'll have them sooner in life.
@sportzntouring thank you sir.
I have a plan in place to achieve these goals but yes it will take many decades to achieve that.
I'm early in my career in IT, 24 years old. Aim is by the time I'm in my 50s, compound interest on investments will have worked their magic. Hopefully I can stay commited!
Thank you for the reply, it genuinely is motovating
@@BySixa awesome! There will be ups and downs on the way... The trick is keeping the faith and persevering. Got my fingers crossed for you!
I sold my r8 v10 after 9 years and went into a H perf spyder for 3x the price coz it’s limited and an r8 on steroid. It’s relative cheap to run and I can send it to my Audi mechanics. That’s if u are replacing the gt. But if u want to keep the gt which is limited and has that heavenly v10 sound, it sounds like a GT3 that James suggested would be a good pairing; it’s a better track car than the gt, better handling, doesn’t sound as good but retains value and is cheap to run. A droptop alternative is the 718 spider manual which is already discontinued, but may not feel as special as the gt3. I have been cautious about jumping into faster cars, coz I find it harder to appreciate slower cars after u get used to next tier of power. I learned my lesson from the f430, which I find underwhelming after having owned the r8 for some time. I jumped into the 458 and was very happy, even tho it lost a lot of feel from the 430. But that specialness is fixed after I x pipes it with sport cats and it screams like a f1 car. I then added the scud which holds a candle of its own against the 458 coz it feels special and shifts violently. 675LT is prob better in value retention, but 720s can be had for the same money. Mcs are like way faster Porsches that is pricier to run and loses value with more exotic flair. My only worry with these cars is what’s next? Once u get used to the speed (tune or not) U would be bored with all Porsches and older Ferraris or even all lambos and looks like only a 765LT can fill what’s next, and u lose the window to savor slower, characterful cars. I see this first hand from friends who tuned their 650s or 720s to 800 hp and beyond. Like James I want a lambo v12, slow and handles bad but the sound and design makes it worthwhile. The running costs are no joke, that’s why I m not ready to add it. What a major repair spent in a year is more than what I spent across 5 years over 5 cars. A 570s might be a nice pairing with the gt, cost about the same as Ferrari to run and prices are pretty depreciated. 600lt 720s 765lt has more room to fall. Getting a v12 lambo to replace the gt is ok but I suspect u will end up driving the Z a lot more coz it’s always in the shop for something, mechanic pool is limited also. Besides, the v12 has more room to fall value wise, they made a ton of them. I find 488 extremely ugly, f8 is fine as an in between model perhaps pista is best for the design and perf in that power tier but it’s prob out of the budget. Also, same issue, next would prob be a 296gtb or sf90 which are losing value fast. I currently have perf spyder, scud, 458 and gt3rs I would love to add a v12 (not front engine f12 or 812 coz of the design and inability to put down power safely). Another pairing to the gt is an amg gtr, (blk series isn’t worth the money at 3x) u can get warranties on it and great blend of luxury and perf, not as iconic looking as the SLS but iconic enough than the new gt and retains that amg v8 sound despite the turbos. Lotus Emira and new nsx is also nice pairing to the gt.. even tho neither is super special in any particular category. F type v8 is a lot of car for the money, but that’s prob in between the Z and GT
If you don’t have to own another exotic car - consider getting a good condition (not made anymore so aftermarket only) Subaru WRX STI. I’ve owned a 911 turbo, a bmw m5, and currently have a Porsche gt3. But honestly for the price, practically, exhaust sound and the fun (dirt roads you can fully lock differential for example) it’s the only car that I continue to own- all my high performance cars are “disposable” aka I trade them in for variety once in a while. But that relatively cheap Subi holds a special place in my heart
Veilside and Mines to name a few great tune cars . I spent 15 years in Japan and love the tuning scene
A robust McLaren 12C spyder in a cool shade, to modify and customize as a project car to enjoy in the road
I should have mentioned that. I do like the 12C!
@@sportzntouring that's a modern day NSX basically
The 675LT is a very special car on the limit, McLaren set it up perfectly.
I instantly thought of a NSX R, but modding one of those would be like defacing the Mona Lisa
Left field option and the one I would go for is a Nissan GTR Liberty Walk, definitely on my lotto list.
675LT? Wasn't that's the one with stupid 'weight savings' in engine which caused many failures, e.g. Tavarish had one.
@@pffyespff correct. A pre-emptive 4.2 stroker build with forged rods is definitely necessary.
@@pffyespff it’s fine if you don’t boost it over specification like travarish did, the APEX one did 1000s of miles on the ring flat out
I currently have the same dilemma. It will either be a Maserati MC Stradale, McLaren GT or Vantage F1 Edition.
Get the MC Stradale. Neither would ever have a chance of sounding half as good or look half as good., and seeing a GT MC stradale bombing down a track does have a strange sense of majesty to it.
When was the last time a " maybe list" had an RX7 and a 675LT on the same mental peice of paper😮
The rx7 he wants is very rare and very expensive, last time I checked they were 80-100k
CRAZY RIGHT?!
You can get an RX-7 from £35k up to £60k.
Fortune kitted versions, £75k+
Lotus Esprit V8. Best bang for the buck right now.
This is a "Problem" I would very much like to have in my life... I'm going to chuck out a couple of random suggestions that might go in the "as well as" category:
Couple of Alfa's; the 4C; rare, kind of forgotten, apparently quite hard suspension, you don't see many around and should be quite a different prospect to the Z and R8.
It blows the budget, but the ultimate modern Alfa; the 8C. Expensive as heck but if you want a dream car that everyone has forgotten, it fits that bill.
BMW M6 V10. Yes the con-rod bearings but it would sit between the Z and R8; not a sports car, not a super car. Utter inappropriate for commuting. Sounds like it would be too comfortable though. Mods wise, getting them manual swapped is apparently transformative.
Really enjoyed this one chaps 🤙😎
Thanks Ben!!
More of these vids please!
We'll work on it 👍
TVR Sagaris with Powers upgrade. No question.
Lotus 430 Cup ?
One of the worst cars I have owned.
Yes
I'd go 488 GTB, GT4 RS, F12. 991.1 GT3 had the engine issues.
Nice!!
Not an obvious choice but what about keep the R8 and have an AM Rapide AMR? Amazing sound, beautiful to look at and has the additional practicality of four seats on the rare occasion you may want it. Just a thought 🤔
Oooh, I didn't consider that.
Huracan perf or gallardo superleggera, maybe v12 vantage or gt8
Interesting point about the thorney warranty. Max claim of 10k and doesn’t cover quite a bit. Great idea but not a big issue will see that 10k limit breached I imagine.
When I last spoke to them, they said the biggest issues they encountered were the gearbox needing rebuilding, or the heads - both of which were covered by the £10k limit
@@JayEmmOnCars it’s the engine rod failure that is the issue and the other exclusions. Great company by all accounts but with how McLaren’s are their warranty isn’t enough (cover wise) to get me into a 570gt as the next car, which is a shame.
You and Anthony are more than welcome to drive my V12 Vantage manual for the channel. It's got the Bamford Rose primary decat with high flow secondaries. It sounds simply magnificent.
Thanks Ashley! Can you email me on talk@jayemm.com
Can't wait! Thank you!
No problem Anthony. Just get in touch if and when you fancy it. It will be a pleasure.
@@ashleywright7909 does James have your details? If not, can you send an email to the email address in the description?
Yes to the 600LT. Still can’t really afford the 570s but great value
That Nissan will be worth a fortune one day soon and the R 8 in all fairness is about as good as it gets so don't change just because you got talked in to it
Good car chat 🤙🏼
There is something about a rotary engine; screaming iro 8500rpm; that gets my juices flowing. Pity that the days of affordable RX7's are gone 😮
Jayemm seems to be getting closer and closer to selling that F12.
Anyway, if Ant wants something rare and hardcore, how about a Noble?
What about an Alpine A110R ?
Would love to be in a position to have this real-life dilemma! McLaren for me! Look forward to seeing what you buy!
Thank you. I could only dream of these decisions some years ago myself. Genuinely grateful to be in the position I'm now in.
@sportzntouring that's really cool to hear, lots of vids to catch up from your channel! I have an early upgraded db9 so feel very lucky with that...got my ambitions set high watching you guys!
@@adamprice8313 awesome! I drove Dadcars glasskey and really enjoyed it! Did u see our video where we tried to fit four of us in it?
@sportzntouring I've not seen that one yet, will add it to the list! I suspect that will be very entertaining!!
Ferrari 488 is more car than anyone needs and sensationally quick. Also the best looking in RC imo.
Lotus Exige 410 --> modded with a komotec 475 remap? 🤔 You've got an R8 maybe something a little more raw and less practical for the perfect day
Ahhh, that would be true if it was a normal R8... But, this is a GT... With this edition, they threw the idea of a daily driven supercar out of the window and created something very different. The chassis and engine frame aren't even the same... Has it's own chassis code and comes on ride-height adjustable Bilstein coilovers as standard.
@@sportzntouring interesting...I don't know that much about the R8 GT, sounds cool!
Why not just supercharge the R8? Then it'll be 488/F8/McLaren quick. There's a bolt-on Whipple twin-screw supercharger kit available for the V10...
My pick NSX
Vantage V12S ;)
I thought this friend had a ferrari California or portofino at one point? Unless Im mixing him up. I think he should get a R8, or one of those Cali ferraris. But he seems to want something "cool".
Just a thought but are you slightly losing touch with your audience? We all like looking at special cars and good luck to you buying them but a feature about someone else having dilemmas about buying cars most of us could only dream of…?
We'll, from the comments, it seems that there's many who appreciate the video, even if it's living vicariously through our conversation. There's always going to be some who don't. Sorry this one wasn't for you. I hope you find some other videos here that are for you.
If you love your Nismo 370Z then surely you’ve gotta try a GT-R…
Hum…i agree with his feeling: I also drove both and initially was interested in the GTR but then bought the 370z. It’s not to dismiss the GTR at all. It’s just that if you are the type of person who would really love a nice 370z, you tend to be slightly less attracted to the GTR. And then it feels like you can’t have the GTR, you don’t lust for it, even though you also find the GTR to be terrific.
Didn't he say in the video he chose the Z because he found it more fun than the GT-R?
Keep the R8 and get an LC500. Great video, looking forward to the tests.
Kimera EVO 037
McLaren GT or new Vantage?
KEEP the R8 GT!
I just don't know if I could let it go if I'm honest. Watch this space!
Alfa Romeo Montreal
Escort/Sierra Cosworth, Lancer Evo Wagon, Fiat Multipla, Citroen Ami.
Skip the Supercar rubbish
Get Ant a 488
£80K for an Audi/VW get rid while you can.
First World problems huh!😂
be boring and buy a manual 991.2 gt3. you will never sell it
if not that, then a gallardo superleggera 5.0 (convert to manual if you have to)
Too much choice.
Sorry, he just said his 370Z was basically the same as a GT4RS? I thought he u
No, I said after my next mod, it's going to have the basically the same power... And with the suspension tuning I've done, the ride and handling it's not a million miles away. I've driven both so it's based on experience... But I might be a bit biased towards my Z 😜
@@sportzntouring that’s fair enough and being honest I’m probably biased against Z’s (yes there are petrol heads who do like Z’s). This due to bad experiences with a couple of 350z and 370z owners but I shouldn’t let this influence my opinion of a car and the culture around it. I just tried, I still hate Z’s🤷🏻♂️. Good video with you and Jay nonetheless. Keep up the good work.
Did this wank say his gay Nismo Z will drive 'not far off a GT4RS' with the mods he's done so far..... 🤣🤣
Good one chap🫡
In relation to ride and handling... Yeah, they feel not a million miles apart, both have great grip, feel balanced and rotate centrally, have great steering feel... And, I said my next mod will make the power not far off. As I've driven both, you'll just have to take my word for it 😉