If someone in real life is struggling with something and follows it up with, "But I fought Margott the fell omen", I'm walking out the door in disbelief.😆
Naa sun. Wait till you hit the 1v4 brothers fight. Then you go into the internet for tips and it asks you "the first or second fight?" Almost quit the game right there.
@@johnhenry15this too accurate I remember looking up a guide and it basically saying parry tf out of him till his sword breaks and I’m like damn I thought I was parrying enough but nah they want you to master that first brother with the big sword
I think I was using the giant wrench at this point. The block value is pretty high and so is the dmg. The smaller dudes was getting leveled pretty quick so I had to actually wait a little while before the next one came in. Also the shield arm attachment is crazy good in the first play thru
@@hozankoI didn’t appreciate the shield arm until the Nameless Puppet fight. For the brothers fights, the second one’s actually pretty easy if you know how to manage it. You don’t attack the ones that are trying to attack you, you attack the others. Then kill one, and wait to kill the last 2 at the same time, and then with the surprise fight after, he can’t figure his way around the sand bags. I also got lucky when playing and decided to amp up Advance. Pretty much every boss or enemy is weak to something. I also got lucky and got the dodging and mobility quarks as soon as I could. There’re pretty much 1 or 2 play styles that are well suited to most fights, and if you didn’t happen upon them, your life is pain.
Alan wake: my writing had become reality, in my story mightykeef overestimated Lies Of P and got his ass completely eliminate by a minion and had a complete mental breakdown about what was a boss and controles and all I have to say is: boy that’s crazy
Truer words have never been spoken, but the parry window can a loosened a tiny bit. Then maybe brought back to the current values through an item. (Kinda like Kuro's charm/bell demon).
The crunch of the parry and the way it leads into fatal attacks is the closest thing to Sekiro-levels of satisfaction I've ever seen. It's fantastically well done and makes trying a boss like 20 times very engaging. I've never been so eager to get back into a boss room as much as with Lies of P. I thought the praise was a bit much, even though I'd played the demo and was super impressed, but by Laxasia I was convinced the developers knew exactly what balancing a hard boss meant. I'm very curious just what are they doing with the DLC.
@dontwatchanime8063 then what is it 😂??? Play pretend? Not acting? No single skit requires acting skills? Why have this brain dead answer with no backing?
@@TaiAngel01 im sorry i didnt know youtubers are considered actors. the dude was talking to himself for couple of min and u think its an oscar winning performance
@@dontwatchanime8063 This youtuber is clearly acting in this video. He also likely makes money off of it, which would make him a professional. What other criteria does he need to meet in order to be considered an actor?
took me 50+ tries to beat that "Elite Enemy". and yet it took me I think less tries to beat the actual first boss(that circus tent clown like basterd)in the game.
Took me one try and i beat the game like nothing. This game is a peace of cake. Real gamers will not struggle with this game. Btw, those are the comments of what Souls like gamer fanboys will say. They will put down other gamers so they can make themselves feel better and more important. Reason why I hate Souls like fans. Btw love the game
@@epicwolf Have you lost the plot ? real gamers will not struggle with this game....you sound like one of the people you are slagging off.if that guy has played 1000s of games but struggled with this new genre of hard games he doesn't count as a real gamer?
Once you figure out the rhythm to parry, dodge, and block, the game becomes so much fun. The records are so good to listen to as well. Very excited to see what they’re gonna do for the sequel and DLC.
I played the demo of this game, and kept dying to the first elite enemy over and over again. It was at that point that I realized that this was not a game for me.
It's not that the game wasn't for you, it's that you weren't good enough for the game. You were too lame, so you gave up, instead of doing what real gamers do and overcoming the trial.
Lies of p has a specific playstyle if that´s not his thing that just means that it´s his decision not to play it. How about you´ll be a real gamer and play a game instead of smelling your old farts just because you´re good in a video game@@SonicMegaKing
@@SonicMegaKingwhat are you 10 years old? If it's not his kind of game then it's not his kind of game. You act like beating a video game is the biggest accomplishment you can ever have lol. N from what your saying that might be the case for you, n I pitty you.
Funny enough she'd be significantly easier if she was in Lies of P, she's basically a Sekiro boss but was put into a game not at all built around her moveset, which makes her pure BS, she'd be a significantly better boss if she was in something like Lies of P, Sekiro, or even Bloodborne
@@Azure_Iolitesekiro i would clap her the thing that sucks about sekiro is that once you master parrying the game is not fun doesn’t matter the difficulty cause you not gonna get hit once
@@shap7296 not really, even if you master the deflect system to the point that you can't get hit, that doesn't change how fast paced, fluid, and rhythmic the combat is, plus Sekiro requires you to carefully observe and watch enemy animations way more than any other FromSoft game, especially with perilous attacks, so the game always keeps you on your toes, couple that with the really good sound design and visual effects, tight controls, and probably the best hitboxes in a FromSoft game, and you have an immensely satisfying combat system Also, your argument can literally be applied to every game ever, every game can be mastered, and every game becomes significantly easier once you do master them, but that doesn't automatically make a game bad or means the combat sucks, that's just how video games in general work, you can say the exact same thing about Elden Ring, Dark Souls 3, and Bloodborne I mean I for one find Lady Maria from the Old Hunters DLC to be pathetically easy of a boss fight, but I still find her to be one of the coolest and best bosses in the whole game, just because I'm good at Bloodborne's parry system and can completely annihilate her healthbar doesn't mean she's a bad boss, and I can still appreciate the fight and the combat system
@@Azure_Iolite what i’m saying is that sekiro can’t get harder once you master it it’s very easy but elden ring can be harder or a walk in the park depending on play style. sekiro only has one playstyle im not saying it isn’t fun it’s the best souls game for the first play through only
As a souls maniac, this game definitely tested my morals and mental stamina. After getting a handle of the mechanics, stomping the bosses with the new weapons and gear that you aquire is unbelievably satisfying. Definitely one of the better souls-likes out there and my hats off to the devs 🎩
"The challenge is based off the individual and their playstyle. So it could be harder for you, it could be easier. But you'll get it." A weirdly wholesome way to sum up the slight mechanical variations in gameplay in Soulsborne/Sekiro games for a newcomer, but a valid one.
Lies of P was absolutely incredible best soulslike to date in my opinion and my favorite game of 23 even with all the bangers of the year. All souls games are immaculate but nothing tops LoP or bloodborne yet. Very proud of what this smaller studio was able to accomplish and the game deserved more praise and recognition but was shadowed by baulders gate 3 unfortunately
@@thealph1191 "Retain white health when hit and regain lost health by doing damage immediately after" mechanic is called rally in Bloodborne, please excuse my habit of words. In Lies of P there are multiple P-organ skill assisting on block retain rate and regain rate, and some really good weapons with high damage cut rate on block. While rage attack block is NG+2 limited, there's rage dodge accessory at about the start of end game. Quite viable in general.
You can also just dodge to your heart's content by having a light equipment load, running sometimes and just circling around the enemy other times. There's just one boss where that doesn't work and you're pretty much forced to parry and it's near endgame.
Damn, I thought I was the only one that struggled with the first one, what hurts more is that if you die, you go back to the start and do all of it again just to get killed again.
Bro people don’t really appreciate the dialogue you script and put together between yourself! I appreciate it and pray you and your platform get more recognition!
I'm glad you mentioned the parry. I seen a few head scratching YT reviews saying they force you to use the parry at the end and it's like no you're supposed to use it the entire time. Not the devs fault you ignored a core mechanic and got hard punished for it
It's more of a mix. The game teaches you to use both dodge and parry. I beat the swamp monster completely by just dodging. Laxasia's 1st phase is way easier when you dodge and her 2nd phase is way easier when you parry.
Because the parry isnt reinforced earlier. Like with Seikro. There's basically no boss in that game that you can beat with pure dodging. You have to learn to parry or you don't progress, period. Lies of P allows you to get away with not utilizing one of its core mechanics then beats you over the head with it wayyyyyyyy later. Pure and Simple. There should be a boss that you can only beat by parrying and one that you can only beat by dodging very early in the game to reinforce those ideas. And I truly mean only beatable by using that one tactic. No half measures. Then you can be intoduced to the bosses that mix and match those options. Lies of P is still a good game but the criticism is still valid
@@King_Ryuga?? You can literally dodge only in lies of p you only have to worry about the red attacks but just run away and you will be fine. The only super hard boss in the game for me was laxasia and imo thats the only boss you NEED to parry in. The rest can be dodge only
Honestly, this was/is the first souls like game that I legit want to purchase. I’m not good at those types of games and would rather sit back & awe at the masters goin to work. However, when I picked up Lies Of P of off Game Pass, something about it got me almost hooked! I actually made it to that first mini boss on my second or third run. Surprisingly I beat him on my 3rd try. Sadly when it comes to the actual first boss I’ve yet to beat him almost a month later🤣! I’ve managed to get dam close a few times but getting those parry’s down r a pain in the ass. That and I guess I’m just a lil bicth cuz seeing dude charge at me the way he does sometimes makes me panic a bit(especially when low on heals)😂🤣. Even so, I’m still legit considering buying a copy of this game🤷♂️.
😂😂😂😂 Now I didn't come into this game cocky, but that cop puppet for sho gave me the bidness. So did the Parade and Officer bosses. Great game. Would've been my person game of the year had I not played Baldur's Gate 3.
Honestly surprised a lot of people have trouble with that first mini boss (granted I was close to death when I beat him, but I didnt take dozens of tries). God this game did give me an ass beating all the way to the credits though.
Yes, that first elite in the station was fairly easy, in my opinion. I had no issues or deaths until the first boss, and then he beat me like a red-headed stepchild. I actually restarted the game to switch to an agility build instead since I don't need to parry as much if I just dash in, stab the boss, then run away. You can't dodge the frenzy attacks, but you can run far enough away that they don't hit you, so that works I guess.
Just so everyone is aware, Lies of P has a very interesting way in which the parry works, where you have to hold guard for half a second longer to get full parry frames and there's a slight delay when parrying from neutral. When you do this, your weapon stays in a guard position, and the slight delay isn't there anymore, which would've been fine, if it weren't for how much smaller parry windows are than Sekiro for example, and even in Sekiro, attacks with small parry windows has a very obvious rhythm, almost like the previous parry is part of the audio cue for the next parry. I don't mind the lack of an obvious rhythm, but the windows need to be loosened a bit, to say nothing of how the nuances of the parry are never communicated in game. I only suspected something similar at the last boss, and found a YTuber named HardResetO discussing this in his LoP video. Also, the camera FoV is atrocious for non-humanoid fights, as many have already said. Still, Lies of P enemy and especially, boss design is fantastic IMO with only a couple of misses. And it's also an incredible soulslike in general, very similar to Fromsoftware quality as many people have already stated. These technical issues are a major flaw in the game (and that's coming from the guy who's personal GotY was LoP), however here's hoping the DLC addresses some of these issues and give us more awesomeness in the form of new areas, lore and bosses, and maybe even a boss gauntlet with secret bosses? Guess we'll have to wait a little longer to know what's in store. Edit: Just so we're clear, I'm not advocating for an easy mode (and frankly, I don't think it's too tight save for 1 boss attack), but an item to give more forgiving parry timings as a playstyle option for new players, or have it be the default for newcomers, and have something like bell demon for the added difficulty or more ideally, something kuro's charm which gives you an easier window if you choose to collect it, but if you don't or destroy it later, it brings things back to speed would be a good way to expand on the variety. Like Keef said: "The challenge, is based off the individual and their play style. So it could be harder for you, it could be easier" And more playstyle options is never a bad thing.
100% the parry timing in this game is off and the window is too damn short. In most games you parry just before the hit lands, but in this one you need to parry before they even attack you. It makes no damn sense to me. I practiced on the sparring puppet for a while trying to figure it out. It wouldn't be so bad if not for the fact that you get damaged while blocking so you're forced to parry. After getting my ass handed to me by the first boss I decided to go for an agility build so I can just hit and run to avoid the boss instead of needing to parry constantly.
The parrying in this game is fine. Sekiro's parrying got repetitive and uninteresting when you figured out how it's done halfway through the game. I would hate for Neowiz to make what I think is an unnecessary adjustment just because some people just want Sekiro all over again. Besides, every attack in this game can be either dodged, ran from, or strafed, except for one move the made it mandatory to parry, and that's from an endgame boss. And even then, there are weapon skills which makes the timing easier or allows you to endure a hit at the cost of a tiny bit of health.
@@Manganization While I disagree that Sekiro's parrying is repetitive and uninteresting, it definitely is easier than in LoP, where parrying isn't supposed to be your primary defensive option. That said, like I said in my original comment, I think the parry window is fine, even though I see where people are coming from, since the mechanic isn't really explained that well. But the truth is people who have a problem with the parry are far more vocal than those who aren't and Neowiz aren't faultless either as they don't really explain the nuances of the parry, and even punishes players trying to learn said nuances by spamming delay attacks in weird patterns as early as the second boss up until the first major difficulty spike. Not a huge number of bosses, but when it comes to learning core mechanics, that's a big issue IMO. Still a great game with bosses comparable to Fromsoft, though it never reaches their highest highs while avoiding their lowest lows.
@@zomorion9183 what more is there to explain? It's a perfect guard. It doesn't really work the way a parry would and there are numerous ways to avoid parrying if you just can't do it. There is a weird and wrong impression that parrying is necessary in this game and that dodging is bad, when it's really good. The optimal way to play without having to spend too much time on a boss is to parry what you're confident parrying and roll, run, and strafe everything else, and keep your weight class under "heavy", while swapping out your defensive parts to suit the boss. If you're stubborn (like me) and wanna parry everything anyway but want some leeway, equip a hilt that gives you Endure (which is reusable within a generous window for only one bar), or Advance Guard/Counter. I played the entire game without dodging. You can also be layman and stock up on throwables and never have to worry about movesets ever. The game is sufficiently generous when it comes to the multitude of ways you can trivialise having to learn a boss' pattern like every other decent game ever, and no attack is unavoidable/unreactable.
@@Manganization I parried for most of my first playthrough, and still couldn't figure out the inconsistency in the parry, until the literal final boss. So something should've been done to communicate that better, or I'm just stupid, but the plethora of people getting stumped by how the parry works makes me think otherwise. So, the fact that you need hold down the parry button and not tap it should be a bit clearer, and should've been trained. Sekiro has so many bosses and especially mini-bosses that hone in on your understanding of the fundamentals right from the get go. Bosses testing the limits of your dodge (Chained Ogre and Blazing Bull). Bosses testing the limits of your ability to parry (like Corrupted Monk or Headless, where spamming block isn't useful, or bosses like the Ashina Elite and Flayer Centipede that teach how to deal with flurry attacks). Bosses testing the limits of your ability of Mikiri counter (Shinobi Hunter and Seven Ashina Spears) etc. Based on your preferences, I have a feeling putting them all early on or in such a way that players have access to them early on would make it feel repetitive, at least to you. My point isn't that they should all be placed right at the start, but rather, bosses strictly testing the limits of a single core mechanic should exist in LoP. As that helps more people appreciate the nuances of that mechanic and allows you to use that more creatively. LoP has the room for that creativity much more so than Sekiro. But it doesn't really demand that you pursue that creativity which prevents a lot of people from seeing the intricacies of the combat, and instead just passing it off as "another soulslike", which couldn't be further from what LoP really is. That's why I suggest the new playstyle option as it's kinda difficult to add bosses in the game without replacing existing ones or adding in new areas. And barring a couple, no mini-boss forced me to strictly focus on one mechanic. And even those mini-bosses don't really gate progression, i.e. you can stagger spam them or simply run past them, which isn't teaching the player a skill that's useful in a boss fight. At least not for all cases. Unlike Chained Ogre, Blazing Bull, Corrupted Monk, Shinobi Hunter, or Lone Shadow Swordsman. I'd argue Sekiro didn't do this well enough and should've made something like Seven Spears gate progression. And LoP... while it's good that there's freedom, being able to skip almost every mini boss is a bit much. Edit: Having a more elaborate training tool like Hanbei also helps Sekiro, since you still have much better training tools independent of bosses, and LoP doesn't even have that. And this training of skills shouldn't be restricted to parries, either. Knowing how the game expects you to dodge attacks can alleviate a great deal of frustration, though LoP has Victor for that ig.
Broooo noooo 😭😂 I instantly started dying when you started naming off Elden Ring bosses you’ve beat. He was like but I’m worthy of this!!!! Instant sub from me man great content 💯🫡
Игры
Im good at this game, I swear.
noi, just noi
You are trash. You don't need this game.
In matter of fact: you don't need any games at alllllll
Love how u didn’t mention Malenia, Maliketh, Blackflame Friede, or any Bloodbourne boss 😂
Do nioh hollow knights remnants 2 blasphemous 2 or lords of the fallen next
“Go ahead and put the controller down browski.” Before I start deleting your games
If someone in real life is struggling with something and follows it up with, "But I fought Margott the fell omen", I'm walking out the door in disbelief.😆
*Margit
@@NickHunter**Margrette
@@MisterZimbabwe ***Morgott
Godskin Duo was easy AF. I burst out laughing when he named them
@@NickHunterMargit,margud and Margyatt
I'm sure the beginning of this game is smooth for everyone.
Then we get hit with the police brutality.
Naa sun. Wait till you hit the 1v4 brothers fight. Then you go into the internet for tips and it asks you "the first or second fight?"
Almost quit the game right there.
@@johnhenry15this too accurate I remember looking up a guide and it basically saying parry tf out of him till his sword breaks and I’m like damn I thought I was parrying enough but nah they want you to master that first brother with the big sword
I think I was using the giant wrench at this point. The block value is pretty high and so is the dmg. The smaller dudes was getting leveled pretty quick so I had to actually wait a little while before the next one came in. Also the shield arm attachment is crazy good in the first play thru
@@hozankoI didn’t appreciate the shield arm until the Nameless Puppet fight. For the brothers fights, the second one’s actually pretty easy if you know how to manage it. You don’t attack the ones that are trying to attack you, you attack the others. Then kill one, and wait to kill the last 2 at the same time, and then with the surprise fight after, he can’t figure his way around the sand bags. I also got lucky when playing and decided to amp up Advance. Pretty much every boss or enemy is weak to something. I also got lucky and got the dodging and mobility quarks as soon as I could. There’re pretty much 1 or 2 play styles that are well suited to most fights, and if you didn’t happen upon them, your life is pain.
@@srhyse yeah the held shield into basic swing with that super heavy weapon actually had more dps then trying to swing normally
Alan wake: my writing had become reality, in my story mightykeef overestimated Lies Of P and got his ass completely eliminate by a minion and had a complete mental breakdown about what was a boss and controles and all I have to say is: boy that’s crazy
Alan Wake is a shocking newcomer to the MightyKeef Expanded Universe
Underestimated
I think you mean underestimated. But I love the energy
@@TheUnamedOne832 dammit
*LOKI theme song plays in the background
bro took the lie or die so seriously that he started lying to himself.
His level of humanity is off the charts 😆
@@twiLightxAngel13he's getting that sweet golden lie from the beginning of the game.
he is going dark tendancy route like in demon souls xD
I played this game for two hours and finally reached a milestone.
The title screen.
😂
"The challenge, is based off the individual and their play style. So it could be harder for you, it could be easier. But you'll get it"
Truer words have never been spoken, but the parry window can a loosened a tiny bit. Then maybe brought back to the current values through an item. (Kinda like Kuro's charm/bell demon).
..............Rennala Queen Of The Full Moon......
Your performance any time one of your characters cries is just 👌
“I just realized my controller is defective” lol 😂. Denial is the 1st stage of “Get Good”.
Yes with soul games we all have to go through it it's like a rite of passage at this point just to beat the game
Folks have been using that excuse since the dawn of video gaming. lol
Every good Keef skit starts with a dollop of ignorance and ends with a healthy dose of tears
I wouldn’t say ignorance, I’d say more arrogance
It's both arrogance and ignorance.
Really?? Boy that's just crazy!
@@tebone3573ignarragance?
Lies of P is absolutely goated. Great skit man, this game also folded me like an omelette.
Dunno struggle a bit only on very last boss when you really need to parry. Rest was walkable on dodges
It's more comparable to Sekiro + Bloodbourne than it is to Elden Ring and Dark Souls. Still an absolute banger.
Definitely more closer to bloodborne.
Damn I’m just said this too, I was like “he beat the wrong games for lies of p”😂
The crunch of the parry and the way it leads into fatal attacks is the closest thing to Sekiro-levels of satisfaction I've ever seen. It's fantastically well done and makes trying a boss like 20 times very engaging. I've never been so eager to get back into a boss room as much as with Lies of P.
I thought the praise was a bit much, even though I'd played the demo and was super impressed, but by Laxasia I was convinced the developers knew exactly what balancing a hard boss meant. I'm very curious just what are they doing with the DLC.
@@kimlee6643 Dude yes, parrying Laxasia with the Two Dragons' heavy is literal serotonin to my brain.
Down bad @@nerobiblios4086
He hasn't played Sekiro yet, until you beat Isshin than we can talk.
Beat sekiro twice and beat isshin and beat him took me a while but i did no way would i play a 3rd time lol
@@davidordaz5251 FACTS. Sekiro had me spitting mad, like, that was some EVIL mess. That White Ape? Omfg.
Old Isshin and Inner Father.
I truly felt I was watching two people in this. Your acting is reaching new levels, Keef.
Stop calling youtubers actors
@dontwatchanime8063 then what is it 😂??? Play pretend? Not acting? No single skit requires acting skills? Why have this brain dead answer with no backing?
@@TaiAngel01 im sorry i didnt know youtubers are considered actors. the dude was talking to himself for couple of min and u think its an oscar winning performance
@@dontwatchanime8063 This youtuber is clearly acting in this video. He also likely makes money off of it, which would make him a professional.
What other criteria does he need to meet in order to be considered an actor?
@@SometinRong idk maybe acting in theater,movie or tv show? not in a youtube video. just because i cook for myself im not a chef am i?
I want to see Keef hit 1 million so bad bc this man deserves it, his skits are top tier!
Hearing him list the souls game he's beaten in preparation and not hearing Bloodborne: "Oh my guy you're fucking dead"
Or Sekiro for that matter.
nah sekiro
took me 50+ tries to beat that "Elite Enemy". and yet it took me I think less tries to beat the actual first boss(that circus tent clown like basterd)in the game.
50+ for the first boss and 3 tries on the Elite enemy for me 😅
Same! 😂
Took me one try and i beat the game like nothing. This game is a peace of cake. Real gamers will not struggle with this game.
Btw, those are the comments of what Souls like gamer fanboys will say. They will put down other gamers so they can make themselves feel better and more important. Reason why I hate Souls like fans.
Btw love the game
I beat both first try, probably because I played parry focus games a lot.
@@epicwolf Have you lost the plot ? real gamers will not struggle with this game....you sound like one of the people you are slagging off.if that guy has played 1000s of games but struggled with this new genre of hard games he doesn't count as a real gamer?
Once you figure out the rhythm to parry, dodge, and block, the game becomes so much fun. The records are so good to listen to as well. Very excited to see what they’re gonna do for the sequel and DLC.
Bro what ryhthm????? I never seen so much variety in delaying attacks as in this game. Except for a few bosses which have more of a regular rhythm
the clown guy pissed me off@@socco90
@@socco90dude lies of P is basically Sekiro but Bloodborne.
@@umaribrahim4702 🤡☠️🤡☠️
@@umaribrahim4702me too, I had to use so many throwables and cheesing methods cuz he got me mad
I played the demo of this game, and kept dying to the first elite enemy over and over again. It was at that point that I realized that this was not a game for me.
careful not to be wussy :P
It's not that the game wasn't for you, it's that you weren't good enough for the game. You were too lame, so you gave up, instead of doing what real gamers do and overcoming the trial.
Lies of p has a specific playstyle if that´s not his thing that just means that it´s his decision not to play it. How about you´ll be a real gamer and play a game instead of smelling your old farts just because you´re good in a video game@@SonicMegaKing
@@SonicMegaKingwhat are you 10 years old? If it's not his kind of game then it's not his kind of game. You act like beating a video game is the biggest accomplishment you can ever have lol. N from what your saying that might be the case for you, n I pitty you.
Download we mod it lets you make the game easier for yourself that’s what I did
I noticed how he listed all those Elden RIng bosses but dodged saying Malenia. She'd probably fit right in with Lies of P's roster.
Especially with her mechanical arm haha
Funny enough she'd be significantly easier if she was in Lies of P, she's basically a Sekiro boss but was put into a game not at all built around her moveset, which makes her pure BS, she'd be a significantly better boss if she was in something like Lies of P, Sekiro, or even Bloodborne
@@Azure_Iolitesekiro i would clap her the thing that sucks about sekiro is that once you master parrying the game is not fun doesn’t matter the difficulty cause you not gonna get hit once
@@shap7296 not really, even if you master the deflect system to the point that you can't get hit, that doesn't change how fast paced, fluid, and rhythmic the combat is, plus Sekiro requires you to carefully observe and watch enemy animations way more than any other FromSoft game, especially with perilous attacks, so the game always keeps you on your toes, couple that with the really good sound design and visual effects, tight controls, and probably the best hitboxes in a FromSoft game, and you have an immensely satisfying combat system
Also, your argument can literally be applied to every game ever, every game can be mastered, and every game becomes significantly easier once you do master them, but that doesn't automatically make a game bad or means the combat sucks, that's just how video games in general work, you can say the exact same thing about Elden Ring, Dark Souls 3, and Bloodborne
I mean I for one find Lady Maria from the Old Hunters DLC to be pathetically easy of a boss fight, but I still find her to be one of the coolest and best bosses in the whole game, just because I'm good at Bloodborne's parry system and can completely annihilate her healthbar doesn't mean she's a bad boss, and I can still appreciate the fight and the combat system
@@Azure_Iolite what i’m saying is that sekiro can’t get harder once you master it it’s very easy but elden ring can be harder or a walk in the park depending on play style. sekiro only has one playstyle im not saying it isn’t fun it’s the best souls game for the first play through only
As someone who stopped playing the game after it dropped and got back into it and finished the game last week, I feel all of that.
As a souls maniac, this game definitely tested my morals and mental stamina.
After getting a handle of the mechanics, stomping the bosses with the new weapons and gear that you aquire is unbelievably satisfying.
Definitely one of the better souls-likes out there and my hats off to the devs 🎩
Always love how when the persona 5 music starts playing, the denial starts to go deep
Had my dying with the heartfelt speech that was uplifting and he didnt hear any of it with more boss names. Thats crazy 😂
This was me in Sekiro when I was dying to the ogre, "I've faced Margit the fell, fire Giant...Malenia."
My personal goty of the year! What a hidden gem.
Great skit as always!
Agreed. Just recently got all the achievements for this game and now patiently waiting for the DLC to drop 😁
It bothers me that you said "goty of the year."
I don't like to be _that guy,_ but it's like saying "RIP in peace."
When he started naming Elden ring bosses I lost it
Top 3 hardest soulslike encounters ranked:
1. Stubbornness
2. Overconfidence
3. The camera
4. Gravity
"I just realized my controller is defective." This is me every time I play a Souls game.😂
What's funny is that bosses actually do have a fog gate on them😂
"The challenge is based off the individual and their playstyle. So it could be harder for you, it could be easier. But you'll get it."
A weirdly wholesome way to sum up the slight mechanical variations in gameplay in Soulsborne/Sekiro games for a newcomer, but a valid one.
Lies of P brought back my nightmares fighting the DLC bosses of DS1 and DS2 Scholars of the 1st Sins years ago. Lies of P is my personal GOTY!
Then you learn how strong throwables are and learn to chuck them at bosses once they low health lol.
Heck yeah especially with high advance.
“That’s not a boss, it’s an elite enemy” I know damn well I said something like that back in my high school days lol
Lord of P turned out really good loved the story and easy to follow and that police boss is crazy no fog or nothing😂😂
The Persona 5 music hitting in the end
Lies of P was absolutely incredible best soulslike to date in my opinion and my favorite game of 23 even with all the bangers of the year. All souls games are immaculate but nothing tops LoP or bloodborne yet. Very proud of what this smaller studio was able to accomplish and the game deserved more praise and recognition but was shadowed by baulders gate 3 unfortunately
Interestingly, with a good build you actually CAN just block and rally back in this game.
yeah, and you can regen lost health by doing damage after a block. so by playing slightly more aggressive it can still be a viable strategy.
@@thealph1191 "Retain white health when hit and regain lost health by doing damage immediately after" mechanic is called rally in Bloodborne, please excuse my habit of words.
In Lies of P there are multiple P-organ skill assisting on block retain rate and regain rate, and some really good weapons with high damage cut rate on block. While rage attack block is NG+2 limited, there's rage dodge accessory at about the start of end game. Quite viable in general.
You can also just dodge to your heart's content by having a light equipment load, running sometimes and just circling around the enemy other times. There's just one boss where that doesn't work and you're pretty much forced to parry and it's near endgame.
"Bro please don't do this" 😂😂😂😂
my guy gone through stages of grief, without going acceptance.
Damn, I thought I was the only one that struggled with the first one, what hurts more is that if you die, you go back to the start and do all of it again just to get killed again.
It's crazy that before he said this at 1:45 - 2:00 I said the same thing.
"I'm like thats not the boss is it"😂
Bro people don’t really appreciate the dialogue you script and put together between yourself! I appreciate it and pray you and your platform get more recognition!
I'm glad you mentioned the parry. I seen a few head scratching YT reviews saying they force you to use the parry at the end and it's like no you're supposed to use it the entire time. Not the devs fault you ignored a core mechanic and got hard punished for it
It's more of a mix. The game teaches you to use both dodge and parry. I beat the swamp monster completely by just dodging. Laxasia's 1st phase is way easier when you dodge and her 2nd phase is way easier when you parry.
WHY YOU CALLING OUT HOKAGE LIKE THAT
Because the parry isnt reinforced earlier. Like with Seikro. There's basically no boss in that game that you can beat with pure dodging. You have to learn to parry or you don't progress, period. Lies of P allows you to get away with not utilizing one of its core mechanics then beats you over the head with it wayyyyyyyy later. Pure and Simple. There should be a boss that you can only beat by parrying and one that you can only beat by dodging very early in the game to reinforce those ideas. And I truly mean only beatable by using that one tactic. No half measures. Then you can be intoduced to the bosses that mix and match those options. Lies of P is still a good game but the criticism is still valid
@@King_Ryuga?? You can literally dodge only in lies of p you only have to worry about the red attacks but just run away and you will be fine. The only super hard boss in the game for me was laxasia and imo thats the only boss you NEED to parry in. The rest can be dodge only
@@Djirifoekrkfkf ironically enough i only HAD to parry was nameless puppet 2
Best game of 2023 and up there with FromSoft’s games
Even tho I’ve only played one souls like game I’ve heard a lot of this game, looks real cool and fun. Great skecth as always Keef XD
Your videos bring me a lot of joy, thanks for making them
The way that cop beat me, I just know he knew I was black 😭
keef we here for you buddy
This perfectly describes my first time playing the demo.
Keef: “I just realized my controller is defective”
Keef’s Controller: _SUFFERING FROM DRIFTCON_
Lies of P was actualy my first souls-like game
As a soulsborne vet I felt the pain lmao!
Him making content about one of the best game of 2023? Goated.
Also dodging in this game is pretty great if you upgrade it.
True gamer comedy brotha 😂 keep it up man
Keef you are a god damn comedy genius. Much love!
To Me. Lies of P is like Dark Souls with a Steampunk theme to it.
To everyone it is that
Every time I see Keef made a new video, I drop everything to see it. Keep up the amazing work!
P.S. You really need to get good at the game, though.
Bro I cannot believe I've only just found you, this is top tier comedy and I'm here to stay!
Dude ain't even gotten to saving Geppetto, yet. That Donkey gonna turn your skills to Ass when he see you.
Honestly, this was/is the first souls like game that I legit want to purchase.
I’m not good at those types of games and would rather sit back & awe at the masters goin to work. However, when I picked up Lies Of P of off Game Pass, something about it got me almost hooked!
I actually made it to that first mini boss on my second or third run. Surprisingly I beat him on my 3rd try. Sadly when it comes to the actual first boss I’ve yet to beat him almost a month later🤣!
I’ve managed to get dam close a few times but getting those parry’s down r a pain in the ass. That and I guess I’m just a lil bicth cuz seeing dude charge at me the way he does sometimes makes me panic a bit(especially when low on heals)😂🤣. Even so, I’m still legit considering buying a copy of this game🤷♂️.
😂👍🏾💪🏾
Arguably my game of the year for 2023 alongside Armored Core 6 and Baldur's Gate 3! Hope it gets more love, it deserves all the attention!
Great video and listing the bosses you beat from souls games was too jokes loool. Keep it up 👍😃
just found ur channel bro, im a fan keep up the good work brother
😂😂😂😂 Now I didn't come into this game cocky, but that cop puppet for sho gave me the bidness. So did the Parade and Officer bosses. Great game. Would've been my person game of the year had I not played Baldur's Gate 3.
When you get the the cathedral and meet the elite variant of the enemies there, they ragdolled my puppet ass like it was personal.
I loved Lies of P!! My first souls game that I was happy to sit through in one sitting!!! The story, gameplay, and atmosphere was amazing!!!
My first souls-like game and Just recently got all the achievements! Now patiently waiting for the DLC to drop 😊
Notice how he didn’t say malenia blade of miquella, even the mighty keef has his limits
I lost it at the controller part.
Keef can we have a return to the original intro of you running down the stairs?
Honestly surprised a lot of people have trouble with that first mini boss (granted I was close to death when I beat him, but I didnt take dozens of tries). God this game did give me an ass beating all the way to the credits though.
Yes, that first elite in the station was fairly easy, in my opinion. I had no issues or deaths until the first boss, and then he beat me like a red-headed stepchild. I actually restarted the game to switch to an agility build instead since I don't need to parry as much if I just dash in, stab the boss, then run away. You can't dodge the frenzy attacks, but you can run far enough away that they don't hit you, so that works I guess.
This was EXACTLY...my lies of p demo experience 😂😂😂
Salve Knight Gael.
That line killed me, bro.
This game is probably one of the only soulslikes that can feel like if it was an actual souls game.
(No wonder i platinum trophy it 😅)
Man I’m soooo glad you’re giving light to lies of p i felt like it was a great souls type game and people don’t give it enough credit!
" this game has been kicking alot of people ass"
Fromsoftware players: i see this as an absolute win
This is the first game where I knew I wasn't bout it in the demo 😭😭
😂😂😂 My favorite RUclipsr never disappoints
It’s pretty good, excited for the sequel:)
Its amazing how lies of P is this first studios soulslike, I cant wait to see what they do next
Just so everyone is aware, Lies of P has a very interesting way in which the parry works, where you have to hold guard for half a second longer to get full parry frames and there's a slight delay when parrying from neutral. When you do this, your weapon stays in a guard position, and the slight delay isn't there anymore, which would've been fine, if it weren't for how much smaller parry windows are than Sekiro for example, and even in Sekiro, attacks with small parry windows has a very obvious rhythm, almost like the previous parry is part of the audio cue for the next parry. I don't mind the lack of an obvious rhythm, but the windows need to be loosened a bit, to say nothing of how the nuances of the parry are never communicated in game. I only suspected something similar at the last boss, and found a YTuber named HardResetO discussing this in his LoP video. Also, the camera FoV is atrocious for non-humanoid fights, as many have already said.
Still, Lies of P enemy and especially, boss design is fantastic IMO with only a couple of misses. And it's also an incredible soulslike in general, very similar to Fromsoftware quality as many people have already stated. These technical issues are a major flaw in the game (and that's coming from the guy who's personal GotY was LoP), however here's hoping the DLC addresses some of these issues and give us more awesomeness in the form of new areas, lore and bosses, and maybe even a boss gauntlet with secret bosses? Guess we'll have to wait a little longer to know what's in store.
Edit: Just so we're clear, I'm not advocating for an easy mode (and frankly, I don't think it's too tight save for 1 boss attack), but an item to give more forgiving parry timings as a playstyle option for new players, or have it be the default for newcomers, and have something like bell demon for the added difficulty or more ideally, something kuro's charm which gives you an easier window if you choose to collect it, but if you don't or destroy it later, it brings things back to speed would be a good way to expand on the variety. Like Keef said: "The challenge, is based off the individual and their play style. So it could be harder for you, it could be easier" And more playstyle options is never a bad thing.
100% the parry timing in this game is off and the window is too damn short. In most games you parry just before the hit lands, but in this one you need to parry before they even attack you. It makes no damn sense to me. I practiced on the sparring puppet for a while trying to figure it out. It wouldn't be so bad if not for the fact that you get damaged while blocking so you're forced to parry. After getting my ass handed to me by the first boss I decided to go for an agility build so I can just hit and run to avoid the boss instead of needing to parry constantly.
The parrying in this game is fine. Sekiro's parrying got repetitive and uninteresting when you figured out how it's done halfway through the game. I would hate for Neowiz to make what I think is an unnecessary adjustment just because some people just want Sekiro all over again. Besides, every attack in this game can be either dodged, ran from, or strafed, except for one move the made it mandatory to parry, and that's from an endgame boss.
And even then, there are weapon skills which makes the timing easier or allows you to endure a hit at the cost of a tiny bit of health.
@@Manganization While I disagree that Sekiro's parrying is repetitive and uninteresting, it definitely is easier than in LoP, where parrying isn't supposed to be your primary defensive option.
That said, like I said in my original comment, I think the parry window is fine, even though I see where people are coming from, since the mechanic isn't really explained that well.
But the truth is people who have a problem with the parry are far more vocal than those who aren't and Neowiz aren't faultless either as they don't really explain the nuances of the parry, and even punishes players trying to learn said nuances by spamming delay attacks in weird patterns as early as the second boss up until the first major difficulty spike. Not a huge number of bosses, but when it comes to learning core mechanics, that's a big issue IMO. Still a great game with bosses comparable to Fromsoft, though it never reaches their highest highs while avoiding their lowest lows.
@@zomorion9183 what more is there to explain? It's a perfect guard. It doesn't really work the way a parry would and there are numerous ways to avoid parrying if you just can't do it.
There is a weird and wrong impression that parrying is necessary in this game and that dodging is bad, when it's really good.
The optimal way to play without having to spend too much time on a boss is to parry what you're confident parrying and roll, run, and strafe everything else, and keep your weight class under "heavy", while swapping out your defensive parts to suit the boss. If you're stubborn (like me) and wanna parry everything anyway but want some leeway, equip a hilt that gives you Endure (which is reusable within a generous window for only one bar), or Advance Guard/Counter. I played the entire game without dodging.
You can also be layman and stock up on throwables and never have to worry about movesets ever.
The game is sufficiently generous when it comes to the multitude of ways you can trivialise having to learn a boss' pattern like every other decent game ever, and no attack is unavoidable/unreactable.
@@Manganization I parried for most of my first playthrough, and still couldn't figure out the inconsistency in the parry, until the literal final boss. So something should've been done to communicate that better, or I'm just stupid, but the plethora of people getting stumped by how the parry works makes me think otherwise. So, the fact that you need hold down the parry button and not tap it should be a bit clearer, and should've been trained.
Sekiro has so many bosses and especially mini-bosses that hone in on your understanding of the fundamentals right from the get go. Bosses testing the limits of your dodge (Chained Ogre and Blazing Bull). Bosses testing the limits of your ability to parry (like Corrupted Monk or Headless, where spamming block isn't useful, or bosses like the Ashina Elite and Flayer Centipede that teach how to deal with flurry attacks). Bosses testing the limits of your ability of Mikiri counter (Shinobi Hunter and Seven Ashina Spears) etc.
Based on your preferences, I have a feeling putting them all early on or in such a way that players have access to them early on would make it feel repetitive, at least to you. My point isn't that they should all be placed right at the start, but rather, bosses strictly testing the limits of a single core mechanic should exist in LoP. As that helps more people appreciate the nuances of that mechanic and allows you to use that more creatively.
LoP has the room for that creativity much more so than Sekiro. But it doesn't really demand that you pursue that creativity which prevents a lot of people from seeing the intricacies of the combat, and instead just passing it off as "another soulslike", which couldn't be further from what LoP really is.
That's why I suggest the new playstyle option as it's kinda difficult to add bosses in the game without replacing existing ones or adding in new areas. And barring a couple, no mini-boss forced me to strictly focus on one mechanic. And even those mini-bosses don't really gate progression, i.e. you can stagger spam them or simply run past them, which isn't teaching the player a skill that's useful in a boss fight. At least not for all cases. Unlike Chained Ogre, Blazing Bull, Corrupted Monk, Shinobi Hunter, or Lone Shadow Swordsman. I'd argue Sekiro didn't do this well enough and should've made something like Seven Spears gate progression. And LoP... while it's good that there's freedom, being able to skip almost every mini boss is a bit much.
Edit: Having a more elaborate training tool like Hanbei also helps Sekiro, since you still have much better training tools independent of bosses, and LoP doesn't even have that. And this training of skills shouldn't be restricted to parries, either. Knowing how the game expects you to dodge attacks can alleviate a great deal of frustration, though LoP has Victor for that ig.
2:26 Keef's face after this (lol) 😂
Haha you’re a genius! I love the facial expressions haha you got me crackin up
If a brand new controller would’ve been pulled out…Golden!
Your expressions of people whose reality is collapsing around them is top notch. Always a treat lol.
Broooo noooo 😭😂 I instantly started dying when you started naming off Elden Ring bosses you’ve beat. He was like but I’m worthy of this!!!! Instant sub from me man great content 💯🫡
This is hilarious my guy 😂😂😂
Your content never lets us down😆😂🤣
"I'm done w this fodder"😂
Keef making a Lies Of P video, 2024 is gonna be good
The hard part of Lies of P is seeing Timothée Chalamet the entire game. I need a custom Pinocchio.
Yes when I first got this game and heard keef talk about it in a video I knew a skit was coming 😂
That P5 Ost got me lol
**goes for strength**
Game: you've met a terrible fate
Bro warned him
That sub-boss cop is just setting expectations xD
The puppet king’s second phase is where I started to struggle for real 🤣
When he didn't say Sekiro in his list I knew it was over.
Love this mate 😂😂😂😂
YASSSSSSS thanks for covering this underrated masterpiece
"Salve" knight Gale slayed me💀