I put my fluid in old visene bottles. The dropper part pops out making it easy to fill. Then just pop it back in and screw on the cap. No leaks and an easy to carry a refill with the small nozzle for filling. Works great with heaters, and lighters.
I’m new all this but my thoughts were is there a flame while it’s in the bag in your pocket or does the flame get extinguished? How does it stay lit so I don’t understand all that part but I really appreciate how you showed us how to extinguish it because I would hate to have all that, lighter fluid evaporate. Whoever suggested the plastic bag that seems pretty wise as well thank you.
It’s a catalytic reaction that happens without a flame once it gets warmed up. The fuel evaporates the same way as it would out of a zippo lighter, but when it touches the catalyst the chemical reaction happens that results in heat.
PIcked up a 1965 model jon-e darn nice. It was new in box, almost hated to light it up but i got over it. Works well gets much hotter than zippo out of the bag and yeah it doesnt last quite as long per fill but man you can heat it up fast when you give it some air. Only real downside of the jon-e has to be the larger catalyst does stink quite a bit more than the zippos little burner pad. Hoping it will get better with use.
Maybe put it in a plastic bag when not using to prevent evaporation. Or some thin plastic over the fill area. On one of my Jon-e the element is disintegrating. Some said that they are platinum. Need to find some.
Jon-e Standard or GI (Giant) is far better then the the zippo hand warmer. Zippo is Chinese and they don't use Platinum catalyst unlike Jon-e dose use. I got a Zippo, gave it away. Coleman white gas or VM&P Naphtha by Klean Strip. My Jon-e GI still going strong since 1978 when I got it new at age 12 years old. You can rebuild the element with quality Platinum element material. Very good video. Oh, don't leave the plastic fill cup on the bottom of your Jon-e hand warmer, it will melt. Trust me. Oh, the Peacock hand warmer built in Japan is very good as they use top quality Platinum in there elements. China is using Iron.
@@Thereal111t Even Jon-E and Peacock sold replacement elements decades ago. The catalyst is a consumable item. Iron as a catalyst is rapidly consumed. Platinum as a catalyst is slowly consumed, but can readily be fouled if doused in fuel and ignited. When used to burn fuel vapors, a platinum catalyst will last many years. The demand for Platinum in catalytic converters for vehicles has driven the cost of platinum up much faster than the rate of inflation since the 1930's when the technology for these hand warmers was pioneered in Japan.
The syringe is a great idea. Where did you purchase it, and why do you call it a "wallpaper syringe"? I imagine that you use it in the installation of wallpaper, so you bought it at a paint store?
I used to work at a paint store and they sold these syringes with big heavy gauge needles in the wallpaper department. The idea was that you filled it with wallpaper adhesive and if there was a bubble in the wallpaper, you could use the syringe to poke a small hole to let air out and squirt adhesive in. I picked this up for use with my alcohol stove I was using at the time. Childrens Tylenol /ibuprofen comes with a smaller syringe to squirt medicine into kidsmouths. They work as well.
The cheapest fuel for these units and zippo lighters is NAPHTHA which is sold in hardware stores as a paint cleaner. For 5 bucks you have enough to last a decade.
Absolutely. For a while the crown camp fuel at Walmart was cheaper than the vm&p naphtha at the hardware store. At one point I was worried that coleman fuel and crown fuel would no longer be available and I tested the nm&p naphtha and it seemed to be a good replacement in my gasoline type camp stoves.
These both take 20cc’s. I’ve started using wallpaper paste syringes or children’s medicine syringes. (The kind they hand out at pharmacies to squirt medicine into kids mouths.)
These are not just great for people who use a Coleman stove, they can also be used to prime other stoves, you can set it under a gas canister stove to allow the fuel to become a gas at low temperatures, unless it's really cold and the stove keeps going out, probably best to take it away when it's going. You can also light things with it: fire, cigarette, handy when your lighter fails or your hand is too cold to work your lighter properly, especially as it doesn't go out easily or blow around in the wind.
In a cold environment the butane stove will continue to go out if you remove the hand warmer once it’s lit. With a gas feed stove, the evaporation of fuel to burn actually cools the fuel inside the tank. These type stoves rely on the ambient temperatures being significantly higher than the boiling point of the fuel for the entire time the stove is running.
Speaking of having on in “your emergency kit”, I’ve used the little Zippo heater as a small heating pad on sore joints and muscles. If you’re out and can’t get to your electric heating pad these work. You can keep the little chemical pouch hot pads in the first aid kit, it they are disposable (costs money) and they don’t get as hot as the Zippo.
I put my fluid in old visene bottles. The dropper part pops out making it easy to fill. Then just pop it back in and screw on the cap. No leaks and an easy to carry a refill with the small nozzle for filling. Works great with heaters, and lighters.
Cool idea!
I’m new all this but my thoughts were is there a flame while it’s in the bag in your pocket or does the flame get extinguished? How does it stay lit so I don’t understand all that part but I really appreciate how you showed us how to extinguish it because I would hate to have all that, lighter fluid evaporate. Whoever suggested the plastic bag that seems pretty wise as well thank you.
It’s a catalytic reaction that happens without a flame once it gets warmed up. The fuel evaporates the same way as it would out of a zippo lighter, but when it touches the catalyst the chemical reaction happens that results in heat.
This was an excellent overview and explanation about these different types of hand warmers. Thanks for sharing.
these kinds of heaters are the best, i even take mine to bed with me when its really cold lol
California will make that a felony at some point. 😅😅😅
Assault heater
24hrs of heat for the Jon-E. Great video, thanks!
PIcked up a 1965 model jon-e darn nice. It was new in box, almost hated to light it up but i got over it. Works well gets much hotter than zippo out of the bag and yeah it doesnt last quite as long per fill but man you can heat it up fast when you give it some air. Only real downside of the jon-e has to be the larger catalyst does stink quite a bit more than the zippos little burner pad. Hoping it will get better with use.
Maybe put it in a plastic bag when not using to prevent evaporation. Or some thin plastic over the fill area.
On one of my Jon-e
the element is disintegrating. Some said that they are platinum. Need to find some.
Yeah the catalytic converters on cars work in a very similar way to these hand warmers.
Jon-e Standard or GI (Giant) is far better then the the zippo hand warmer. Zippo is Chinese and they don't use Platinum catalyst unlike Jon-e dose use. I got a Zippo, gave it away. Coleman white gas or VM&P Naphtha by Klean Strip. My Jon-e GI still going strong since 1978 when I got it new at age 12 years old. You can rebuild the element with quality Platinum element material. Very good video. Oh, don't leave the plastic fill cup on the bottom of your Jon-e hand warmer, it will melt. Trust me. Oh, the Peacock hand warmer built in Japan is very good as they use top quality Platinum in there elements. China is using Iron.
KLH1966 I’m sure you’re right that the platinum catalyst is better. They probably wouldn’t have to sell replacement elements. Hmmmm...
Aren’t zippo lighter made in the USA?
@@pjm8047 Zippo pocket warmers are not mfg in the USA.
Zippo warmers work but are cheap. Whitby, Peacock and Jon e are far superior.
@@Thereal111t Even Jon-E and Peacock sold replacement elements decades ago. The catalyst is a consumable item. Iron as a catalyst is rapidly consumed. Platinum as a catalyst is slowly consumed, but can readily be fouled if doused in fuel and ignited. When used to burn fuel vapors, a platinum catalyst will last many years.
The demand for Platinum in catalytic converters for vehicles has driven the cost of platinum up much faster than the rate of inflation since the 1930's when the technology for these hand warmers was pioneered in Japan.
The syringe is a great idea. Where did you purchase it, and why do you call it a "wallpaper syringe"? I imagine that you use it in the installation of wallpaper, so you bought it at a paint store?
I used to work at a paint store and they sold these syringes with big heavy gauge needles in the wallpaper department. The idea was that you filled it with wallpaper adhesive and if there was a bubble in the wallpaper, you could use the syringe to poke a small hole to let air out and squirt adhesive in. I picked this up for use with my alcohol stove I was using at the time. Childrens Tylenol /ibuprofen comes with a smaller syringe to squirt medicine into kidsmouths. They work as well.
@@Thereal111t Thanks!
The cheapest fuel for these units and zippo lighters is NAPHTHA which is sold in hardware stores as a paint cleaner. For 5 bucks you have enough to last a decade.
Absolutely. For a while the crown camp fuel at Walmart was cheaper than the vm&p naphtha at the hardware store. At one point I was worried that coleman fuel and crown fuel would no longer be available and I tested the nm&p naphtha and it seemed to be a good replacement in my gasoline type camp stoves.
I found a old Jon -e hand warmer in brand new, never used condition at an estate sale- I paid $3.95 for it. A) it was missing was the measuring cup
These both take 20cc’s. I’ve started using wallpaper paste syringes or children’s medicine syringes. (The kind they hand out at pharmacies to squirt medicine into kids mouths.)
Interesting..
Thanks for the video
These are not just great for people who use a Coleman stove, they can also be used to prime other stoves, you can set it under a gas canister stove to allow the fuel to become a gas at low temperatures, unless it's really cold and the stove keeps going out, probably best to take it away when it's going. You can also light things with it: fire, cigarette, handy when your lighter fails or your hand is too cold to work your lighter properly, especially as it doesn't go out easily or blow around in the wind.
In a cold environment the butane stove will continue to go out if you remove the hand warmer once it’s lit. With a gas feed stove, the evaporation of fuel to burn actually cools the fuel inside the tank. These type stoves rely on the ambient temperatures being significantly higher than the boiling point of the fuel for the entire time the stove is running.
Speaking of having on in “your emergency kit”, I’ve used the little Zippo heater as a small heating pad on sore joints and muscles. If you’re out and can’t get to your electric heating pad these work. You can keep the little chemical pouch hot pads in the first aid kit, it they are disposable (costs money) and they don’t get as hot as the Zippo.
Nice job bud
The heating element is made out of platinum embers available on amazon
Does anyone know how old the orbex Jon-E hand warmer is because I have the same one in the video.
Jon-e heating element lasts for ever.