“We are continuing to learn the capabilities of Starliner…” let me translate that for you as I do have several years of big corporate PR experience… “we’re currently assessing whether our extremely behind schedule capsule will endanger the astronauts lives on the way back home.”
My interpretation: We are learning how the added capabilities of the Starliner to raise the orbit of the station will benefit us. Something we do not possess with the Dragon capsule.
@@darkknight097 I certainly do. No space mission is risk free. NASA would not allow this mission to proceed if it wasn’t confident in a successful outcome.
If nasa allows starliner crew to return and they die it is murder. Cancel Boeing contract and offer them a contract building golf carts. They would only have to worry about wheels falling off. Boeing is doing worse than blue origin. Give spacex the rewards of success!
A spacecraft that takes 10 yrs to design build and fly is a receipt for disaster. I just don't understand why the X-37b was not used as the base for Boeings manned spacecraft. The X-37b is a very successful design and it lands at the Cape on Wheels.
It cannot be launched without a faring. That's why I'm also skeptical in the crewed version of a dreamchaser. A crewed spacecraft cannot have a fairing or folding wings, as it has to be able to perform the pad and launch abort, and aerodynamics of a winged spacecraft on top of a rocket would be rather peckuliar.
Does anyone else find it weird that the first flight was a failure since it couldn't dock with the ISS, the second flight was a failure because the thrusters failed, but after the capsule lands (following several thruster leaks) NASA will declare this to be fully 'crew-rated'? Could we possibly wait to bestow that moniker until we have at least ONE successful flight with no major drama?
@@JaysonAdams-qg9go I'm not.sure if the starliner answers can be taken out and transfered over to s crew dragon and theirs no extra seats on that dragon otherwise
It's really NASAs fault for allowing Boeing to self certify on the production line, just like the FAA let Boeing self certify the MAX aircraft. We all saw how that has played out...
@@alifesh Yeah??? Spaceflight has risks. That's how it works. If the astronauts are willing to get on it, I'm gonna assume it's as safe as its going to get.
@@rgio1885 the problem is the leak is multiplying when the spacecraft reach the orbit so the astronaut doesnt have any choice either also before that ground crew said it was "safe to launch" When in reality everything got worse in orbit. Lets just hope those two get back safely here 😢
I would not want to be the person to give a “thumbs up” for the crew to return and have anything bad happen on their return. After the launch is the the wrong time to say “well crap”
"I would not want to be the person to give a “thumbs up” for the crew to return and have anything bad happen on their return." The Columbia space shuttle disaster wants a word.
@@-gbogbo- Semantics. The leaks are still there, they just shut off the gas that was leaking at the source. As soon as they re-open the main vale the leaking will resume.
@@ghost307 Ok thanks for the answer. But Boeing/NASA say there's still 10 times more helium in reserve than is needed for the return trip, so why be so alarmist?
@@-gbogbo- They launched with 1 leak, they docked with 3 leaks, they now have 5 leaks. Unless someone else installed all the other valves more leaks could easily develop before landing. Also. leaks tend to get worse and never fix themselves.
Giving them time to pen their last will and testament. if they don't make it safely NASA and Boeing should be banned from space flight. Also that would save a lot of tax money.
@@KiRiTO72987 You must be a demerat. The budget is out of control. NASA is a bleed . 10 years on this one project and still doesn't work. SpaceX did this in 3 years multiple times with no one dyeing. The people are doomed yet you still defend this company or whatever it's called.
Remember, everyone: this capsule doesn’t splash down in water; it lands on solid ground using parachutes and airbags. Every component must function perfectly to ensure safety, as any failure could be fatal. This situation is concerning given NASA and Boeing's recent track record and serious issues.
Likely it will be fine and if it is they’ll be shouting it from the rooftops at how awesome they are but reality is Boeing’s standing as a reliable company has nose dived for all to see.
This is what took away Soyuz 1 with Vladimir Komarov onboard in 1967: a chain of failures in parachute deployment. There were not much of seas in central USSR and Soviets had to go the hard way.
@@classic_sci_fi Certainly. There are 2 viable options: 1. SpaceX takes 4 pieces of metal and machines 2 sets of adapters to bring up with them. 2. Don't worry about it. NASA only requires returning astronauts to wear space suits during re-entry to avoid a repeat of what happened on Soyuz 11...in 1971...and never happened again...even once...in the past 53 years. BTW - The Soyuz incident was caused by a faulty valve...and which spacecraft has the problem with faulty valves?
Don't get me wrong, Boeing has royally screwed this program in multiple ways. BUT!!!!! "Test Flights" are designed to weed out problems. Why continue to call such "problems" setbacks?
there are humans on board whose life you potentially risk by making those test flights if you wanna test (which you definetly should do a lot) do it as far away from potential casualities as possible
I hope they get home safely. I:d be surprised if starliner-1 is the next mission for starliner, surely they can't call this successful enough to certify it for operational human soaceflight?!
True, even if the rest of the flight i.e. the re-entry to land goes perfectly. Until Boeing gets to the root cause of both the helium leak and the stuck valves, there is no way any responsible organisation should certify Starliner.
@@chrisantoniou4366 Is NASA a responsible organization tough? It is after all insisting on a overpriced and underperforming project just to keep the "sweetheart deals" going, can't even use the excuse of doing it to protect expertise, as the truly qualified Boeing engineers are mostly gone.
Boeing has been embarrassed for a while now. It more shows what NASA will do with other people's lives. Id say it's more embarrassing for NASA everyone knows Boeing is a failure as a company
Everyone in the ISS needs to check the doors. Boeing has forgotten how to build anything that flies. Jackie's comment below hits the nail on the head. That spacecraft is doomed, just like the two MAX crashes that killed almost 400 people.
Not to mention, how many of Boeings planes that's flying right now that are ticking time bombs. The carbon fiber joint gaps were brought to light thanks to yet another whistle blower, that could cause the aircraft to break apart some years down the line. A lot of the whistle blower complaints show potential issues that would cause shorter life span of parts, so the planes are too new. Give it a few more years, more max planes will suffer catastrophic failures. My last flight a month ago, the MAX 8 tickets were 25% less expensive than the 757 I flew on. I wonder how many people are avoiding flying on these planes...
There have been too many anomalies with this flight. Were I given the power I would send the Orion home on autopilot like it did on the first trial, to see if this crew would have survived this flight. We can replace hardware. We can't replace the lives of the two crew.
Hey Media! As mediators between us 'consumers', and the corporate widget-makers, are you SURE you aren't being manipulated? It's a rather old technique to minimise plans and expectations for something like this (a new spaceship) for instance, and then to spectacularly exceed those plans. It's not much of risk. By already incorporating the past shoddy manufacturing into the narritive, Boeing gets to climb a few more Rungs of Redemption in the public eye. Then, more planes get sold....like the You-Know-What. And, you guys in the media facilitate it all for free. Ain't Free Will wonderful?
Acording NASA teleconference undocking Boeing Starliner scheduled on June 25th at 10:10 pm EDT, 9:10 pm CDT, landing scheduled on June 26th at 4:51 am EDT, 3:51 am CDT, 2:51 am MDT.
Knowing the guys I served with and their sense of humour they’d play the funeral March as I got on it and ask if they could get my stereo if I croaked ha ha but seriously I hope they return fine.
There ALWAYS have to be enough 'seats' for everyone onboard the ISS. If Starliner is downgraded, two people must go down with the next capsule to leave if it is capable of doing that. Or they might squeeze one extra per returning capsule. Or they could send up an almost empty Dragon.
I like the comments about people complaining about the time it took to built Starliner. Space shuttle was designed in the 70s and the first flight occured in 1981, yet I never saw anyone comment on that.
ESISS. Extended stay international space station. Elon let's put the dragon on the pad to rescue the boeing space amateurs before they hurt themselves.
Boeing is so irresponsible😢, to be honest NASA should just rely on spacex and other private companies. The issues are not good and it delayed a lot of times.
It doesn't make sense to test stuff in orbit when it should've been done on the ground or test stuff in orbit that failed whilst the spacecraft was on the pad or integration tower. It just adds to the risks to astronauts. Jettison the Starliner without astronauts and send a rescue craft or Dragon.
That one image of Soni in the ISS (4:30), fooled me for a moment: I thought Soni was treating herself to a beer during an ISS barbeque ... When, all the time, it was ACTUALLY just an odd microphone. Fancy that! (well, that's what Soni could later claim during the inquiry...)🍺👩🚀🎤⁉️
Manned space flight is hard. The engineering that goes into developing a spacecraft capable of sustaining human life and take it into space and return to the earth is not an easy task. Instead of people hating on Boeing, they should be cheering them on and supporting all of the work their team is conducting to make a return to earth a safe one for the crew. We should all want Boeing to succeed in getting Starliner and it's Astronauts back to earth safely. The future of manned spaceflight by the U.S. only becomes stronger if we have two different viable manned craft available.
Your comment is one of the more positive and realistic comments I have seen on this latest video. Thanks for saying what needed to be said about this Starliner crew capsule.
Why did they have to do this with humans in the first place?? Anyone know? Couldn't they have tested one more time w/o ppl. What did the astronauts do that couldn't have been done w/o them? (i wonder if deep down inside those two astronauts are/were scared?)
Even if it's decided to put the crew on a Dragon to return them home, the Starliner will be sent back to do a re-entry unmanned to see how that part of the flight goes.
All I have say if Boeing can’t do a basic thing like making a leak prove helium manifold. Test it properly. Boeing should not be in the space business were peoples lives are at stake because the engines will fail. Propulsion engines are critical to the crew capsule.
I think Boeing is a mess but hating on starliner isnt helpful. The money has been spent, Boeing will correct these issues. The fixed price contract was a good deal for the tax payer. I wonder if the contract also has penalties if starliner isnt realiable? Just about every military aircraft has had issues or by the time they hit full rate production tons are spent to do upgrades. Just be happy Boeing was on the hook for all of the cost over-run.
You are very hard to understand. You need to project your voice, enunciate your words more clearly (not mumble), and use some compression (and some EQ wouldn't hurt) on your mic.
What kind of fool would have gotten on that spacecraft to start with knowing Boeing built half the rocket and all of the crew capsule. Cut the starliner away from the ISS and let it burn up on the return to earth. Cancel all future Starliner missions and redistribute the money to SpaceX.
Why would NASA listen to some random guy on the internet who has no idea what he's talking about? And what makes you think that a rescue mission is necessary? Last I checked there's nothing so severely wrong with starliner that makes it so it can't reenter lol.
@@jordanhenshaw As there were no technical difficulties, and the new crew rotation was not scheduled soon, they simply "converted" test flight into a "mini crew" visit. Test crew assumed regular ISS crew duties.
DEI and the lowest bidder, I wouldn't chance my life on anything made by Boeing. I'll keep my fingers crossed for the crew but Boeing is a bad bad idea.
Wasn’t a lowest bidder contract, it’s fixed price and Boring claims to be losing billions. Regardless of the contract vehicle, there are not many companies capable of making a rocket and capsule so there were never many candidates.
It seems like at this point it would be a simple decision to just let Starliner return autonomously. It does feel just like Challenger and Columbia except this time we all know and it's reasonable to just let those guys stay on the ISS.
Do you know something specific that both NASA's engineers and Starliner's don't? Or are you suggesting they should make consequential decisions on "vibes"?
Translation: We trouble shoot and repair in orbit from Earth. Let us work in peace, because it's hard and stressful. And more time is also needed to prepare an extra crew dragon for launch in case of an emergency. And please forget that NASA as a very professional organization planned the mission for a specific period to do and test everything within that time. Because we don't want scared astronauts. Let's keep things positive. Don't jinx the mission. We need 2-3 launch providers for crewed missions that are not from Russia.
Yes we need 2, crew dragon and hopefully dream catcher. We don’t need Boeing under delivering over time and overpriced starliner. Using an rocket depending on Russian made engines.
Boeing BDS and the commercial airline side are COMPLETELY different standards. The 2 are not comparable at all. Boeing and NASA agreed to let the starliner stay at the ISS longer to ensure the starliner can remain in space for a longer period of time for longer missions in the future. Yall need to learn to do your own research. The astronauts will return home safely when they undock and have plenty of supllies and fuel for the retrun to earth.
“We are continuing to learn the capabilities of Starliner…” let me translate that for you as I do have several years of big corporate PR experience… “we’re currently assessing whether our extremely behind schedule capsule will endanger the astronauts lives on the way back home.”
My interpretation: We are learning how the added capabilities of the Starliner to raise the orbit of the station will benefit us. Something we do not possess with the Dragon capsule.
@Oldman5261 You don't give af about the lives of any of those astronauts, do you?
@@darkknight097 I certainly do. No space mission is risk free. NASA would not allow this mission to proceed if it wasn’t confident in a successful outcome.
@@Oldman5261NASA Apollo 1 mentality.
At least Elon Musk does his RUD flights before he allows humans to board his capsules or ships.
Nice to see Boeing doesn't discriminate. Same level of quality for NASA astronauts as they give the general public on commercial airliners.
Good thing Nasa has SpaceX on speed dial.
The extra time on the station will be used for Butch and Suni to build up their courage.
dumb
😂
“Continue to learn the capabilities of Starliner” AFTER sending astronauts to the space station sounds kinda backwards. :D
It's worse then that. Starlings is basically 50 year old technology, Boeing is a joke.
well it is a TEST flight
@@lille0le502 a test flight riddled with inadequacies. what is the point of the strainer other than to be a worse version of the dragon
@@GeorgeTheIdiotINCThrust?
The Dragon cannot raise the ISS, this is still mainly done by Progress and Soyuz ...
@@GeorgeTheIdiotINC to have competition and backup plans at some point
Starliner MAX
I'm with you 100%.🙂
With a hidden system called MCAS, ready to control the entry angle based on a single sensor!
I’m hoping for MAX delays and not MAX casualties
If nasa allows starliner crew to return and they die it is murder. Cancel Boeing contract and offer them a contract building golf carts. They would only have to worry about wheels falling off. Boeing is doing worse than blue origin. Give spacex the rewards of success!
@@gmcusa001 At least there aren't any "door plugs" or "reactor valves" on a golf cart...
Good old "Leaky Creaky".
A spacecraft that takes 10 yrs to design build and fly is a receipt for disaster. I just don't understand why the X-37b was not used as the base for Boeings manned spacecraft. The X-37b is a very successful design and it lands at the Cape on Wheels.
It cannot be launched without a faring. That's why I'm also skeptical in the crewed version of a dreamchaser. A crewed spacecraft cannot have a fairing or folding wings, as it has to be able to perform the pad and launch abort, and aerodynamics of a winged spacecraft on top of a rocket would be rather peckuliar.
Next update from Nasa: SpaceX will launch a Dragon resupply mission with a possible return with the Starliner crew.
Bingo. Hoping people just forget about this in the meantime.
I really hope so. Not a fan of Elon Musk, but I "REALLY" hope that he does this. It would be awesome.
Throw some form of stop leak in those line and than put flex seal on the outside of the pipes and then wrap with wire....OR just put duct tape.
Tiresome comment
@NBT2469 me too. I REALLY hope so. 😧
They need to fire up a Crew Dragon and get those folks out of there if possible. Star-liner is an accident waiting to happen.
NASA unfortunately has a history of killing people due to pride and hubris. Hopefully not this time.
afaik there is currently a dragon docked at the iss. I agree with your statement about starliner.
Does anyone else find it weird that the first flight was a failure since it couldn't dock with the ISS, the second flight was a failure because the thrusters failed, but after the capsule lands (following several thruster leaks) NASA will declare this to be fully 'crew-rated'?
Could we possibly wait to bestow that moniker until we have at least ONE successful flight with no major drama?
@@ghost307 Starliner is beginning to feel like a 737 MAX. Has no ability to perform its actual function.
@@JaysonAdams-qg9go I'm not.sure if the starliner answers can be taken out and transfered over to s crew dragon and theirs no extra seats on that dragon otherwise
The last time NASA took risk, we lost 7 nauts. And they did that twice. Hope they are not trying to add 2 more to the list.
If I were NASA, I’d charge Boeing for every single extra day at the ISS. The unaccountability for sheer production incompetence has to stop. Shameful.
If I were an astronaut, I’d ask if I can just come back on the next Crew Dragon, Soyuz, or, if neither is available, Felix Baumgartner’s parachutes.
Nasa paid for them to get there. Nasa asked if they would stay longer.
It's really NASAs fault for allowing Boeing to self certify on the production line, just like the FAA let Boeing self certify the MAX aircraft. We all saw how that has played out...
Most of the station is Russian.
They can't make airplanes properly anymore,
And some people expected them to nail this
It's no coincidence that they picked the most senior astronauts. I hope they survive reentry but if they don't at least they got to go to space again.
It is perfectly logical to pick the most senior astronauts because they are ones with the most experience to deal with any problems that may arise.
I suspect god will watch over butch.
it ridiculous, they knew they had issues with the rcs thrusters, they downplayed that shit as a single tiny leak my ass
No way I would get on that Starliner death trap if I was those astronauts
you are not you are just a person not a pro
@@alifesh Yeah??? Spaceflight has risks. That's how it works. If the astronauts are willing to get on it, I'm gonna assume it's as safe as its going to get.
@@rgio1885 the problem is the leak is multiplying when the spacecraft reach the orbit so the astronaut doesnt have any choice either also before that ground crew said it was "safe to launch" When in reality everything got worse in orbit.
Lets just hope those two get back safely here 😢
@@alifesh not even close
@@robertoler3795 he is however not suicidal
I would not want to be the person to give a “thumbs up” for the crew to return and have anything bad happen on their return. After the launch is the the wrong time to say “well crap”
"I would not want to be the person to give a “thumbs up” for the crew to return and have anything bad happen on their return."
The Columbia space shuttle disaster wants a word.
Starleaker.
Leakliner.
It's all fun and games until we lose another crew...
No way you could get me back in that capsule. Keep delaying until the next Dragon. Let Starliner re-enter/burn up empty.
There's a dragon docked right now they could come back on...
There is nothing to indicate it will burn up on re-entry.
@@bluesteel8376 Possibly if a leaking thruster got it tumbling during reentry.
That's because you're not an astronaut lol. I think they know what they're doing.
@@rgio1885 Yeah, that's what they said before Columbia.
The Starliner will enable the astronaut to have a chance to reach for the stars and meet the Creator.
They'll just wait till the leaking stops on its own & completely empty the Tanks.... That'll Fix the Problem!
The leaking are stopped already, they've been turning off the "taps" since they docked to ISS.
@@-gbogbo- Semantics. The leaks are still there, they just shut off the gas that was leaking at the source. As soon as they re-open the main vale the leaking will resume.
@@ghost307 Ok thanks for the answer. But Boeing/NASA say there's still 10 times more helium in reserve than is needed for the return trip, so why be so alarmist?
@@-gbogbo- They launched with 1 leak, they docked with 3 leaks, they now have 5 leaks. Unless someone else installed all the other valves more leaks could easily develop before landing.
Also. leaks tend to get worse and never fix themselves.
@@-gbogbo- & you believe Boeing & NASA?
Giving them time to pen their last will and testament.
if they don't make it safely NASA and Boeing should be banned from space flight.
Also that would save a lot of tax money.
You do realize NASA gets less than 1% of the total US Budget
@@KiRiTO72987 You must be a demerat.
The budget is out of control.
NASA is a bleed .
10 years on this one project and still doesn't work.
SpaceX did this in 3 years multiple times with no one dyeing.
The people are doomed yet you still defend this company or whatever it's called.
Remember, everyone: this capsule doesn’t splash down in water; it lands on solid ground using parachutes and airbags. Every component must function perfectly to ensure safety, as any failure could be fatal. This situation is concerning given NASA and Boeing's recent track record and serious issues.
In fairness, if there is a parachute problem (aka double failure) the difference between water and ground is pretty minimal.
Likely it will be fine and if it is they’ll be shouting it from the rooftops at how awesome they are but reality is Boeing’s standing as a reliable company has nose dived for all to see.
This is what took away Soyuz 1 with Vladimir Komarov onboard in 1967: a chain of failures in parachute deployment. There were not much of seas in central USSR and Soviets had to go the hard way.
Given that Boeing and SpaceX flight suits are not compatible with other ships, is there any other choice but to come down on the Starliner?
@@classic_sci_fi Certainly. There are 2 viable options:
1. SpaceX takes 4 pieces of metal and machines 2 sets of adapters to bring up with them.
2. Don't worry about it. NASA only requires returning astronauts to wear space suits during re-entry to avoid a repeat of what happened on Soyuz 11...in 1971...and never happened again...even once...in the past 53 years.
BTW - The Soyuz incident was caused by a faulty valve...and which spacecraft has the problem with faulty valves?
Don't get me wrong, Boeing has royally screwed this program in multiple ways. BUT!!!!! "Test Flights" are designed to weed out problems. Why continue to call such "problems" setbacks?
there are humans on board whose life you potentially risk by making those test flights
if you wanna test (which you definetly should do a lot) do it as far away from potential casualities as possible
You don't TEST on LIFE
Yeah NASA wasn’t too concerned with foam hitting the shuttle wing.
Are we surprised😂
It isnt bad
I hope they get home safely. I:d be surprised if starliner-1 is the next mission for starliner, surely they can't call this successful enough to certify it for operational human soaceflight?!
True, even if the rest of the flight i.e. the re-entry to land goes perfectly. Until Boeing gets to the root cause of both the helium leak and the stuck valves, there is no way any responsible organisation should certify Starliner.
@@chrisantoniou4366 Is NASA a responsible organization tough? It is after all insisting on a overpriced and underperforming project just to keep the "sweetheart deals" going, can't even use the excuse of doing it to protect expertise, as the truly qualified Boeing engineers are mostly gone.
Have 'em walk the plank... Aye Cap'n... Avast ye hearties...
Nothing new here, this info was out days ago.
Embarrassing for boeing. hope the astronauts get back safe
Boeing has been embarrassed for a while now. It more shows what NASA will do with other people's lives. Id say it's more embarrassing for NASA everyone knows Boeing is a failure as a company
lucky for them...wow what a joy the Starliner is doing great
Most leaks eventually resolve themselves.
Everyone in the ISS needs to check the doors. Boeing has forgotten how to build anything that flies. Jackie's comment below hits the nail on the head. That spacecraft is doomed, just like the two MAX crashes that killed almost 400 people.
Not to mention, how many of Boeings planes that's flying right now that are ticking time bombs. The carbon fiber joint gaps were brought to light thanks to yet another whistle blower, that could cause the aircraft to break apart some years down the line. A lot of the whistle blower complaints show potential issues that would cause shorter life span of parts, so the planes are too new. Give it a few more years, more max planes will suffer catastrophic failures. My last flight a month ago, the MAX 8 tickets were 25% less expensive than the 757 I flew on. I wonder how many people are avoiding flying on these planes...
I am watching videos of both the Challenger and Columbia shuttle disasters, as a preface to this.
There is absolutely no evidence to support that claim.
@@heyaisdabomb I've flown on three MAX-8s in the past year. Idgaf what airplane I get to fly on, and I guarantee you most people think like that.
No idea this would happen! But I understand how important a spacewalk is for the crew. NASA: Never a straight answere. The embarrassment continues.
Take the Dragon home, discard the Starliner in the pacific.
If this was Spacex the program would have been cancelled 2 years ago.
Even in space it's stayliner
There have been too many anomalies with this flight. Were I given the power I would send the Orion home on autopilot like it did on the first trial, to see if this crew would have survived this flight. We can replace hardware. We can't replace the lives of the two crew.
Well, at least no door plugs blew off mid-flight. I wish the returning astronauts the very best of luck getting home safely.
Hey Media! As mediators between us 'consumers', and the corporate widget-makers, are you SURE you aren't being manipulated? It's a rather old technique to minimise plans and expectations for something like this (a new spaceship) for instance, and then to spectacularly exceed those plans. It's not much of risk. By already incorporating the past shoddy manufacturing into the narritive, Boeing gets to climb a few more Rungs of Redemption in the public eye. Then, more planes get sold....like the You-Know-What. And, you guys in the media facilitate it all for free. Ain't Free Will wonderful?
Am I the only one to whom the NASA announcements sound like gaslighting?
If I were those astronauts, I'd demand NASA to send a crew dragon to rescue me. I wouldn't get on that death trap...
I don’t see how they can certify it safe.
Boeing is proud nothing fell off during the flight (helium) another issue 😮😅
They might save billions if they jettison it to the Sun and just shut that program down.
Leave it up there for future use bill already paid
Space Walk to check the Lines?
Acording NASA teleconference undocking Boeing Starliner scheduled on June 25th at 10:10 pm EDT, 9:10 pm CDT, landing scheduled on June 26th at 4:51 am EDT, 3:51 am CDT, 2:51 am MDT.
These astronauts are practically on death row aren't they?
Knowing the guys I served with and their sense of humour they’d play the funeral March as I got on it and ask if they could get my stereo if I croaked ha ha but seriously I hope they return fine.
Nobody's been given any reason to believe that.
New date undoking Boeing Starliner NET June 21st at 11:42 pm EDT, 10:42 pm CDT.
Just sent the thing back empty and wait on the dragon. No need to put the astronauts through the excessive risk involved with that craft.
There ALWAYS have to be enough 'seats' for everyone onboard the ISS. If Starliner is downgraded, two people must go down with the next capsule to leave if it is capable of doing that. Or they might squeeze one extra per returning capsule. Or they could send up an almost empty Dragon.
Scrap the program. It's a systemic failure.
Hey NASA - Ask a Soyuz Capsule or 2 for help - Your gonna have to pay big $$$ for it - Boeing has not got the brains to build correctly....
I like the comments about people complaining about the time it took to built Starliner. Space shuttle was designed in the 70s and the first flight occured in 1981, yet I never saw anyone comment on that.
ESISS. Extended stay international space station. Elon let's put the dragon on the pad to rescue the boeing space amateurs before they hurt themselves.
Thank you Mr. Spock.
This comment was......illogical. LMAO!
EDIT: I am also a Trekkie.
Boeing is so irresponsible😢, to be honest NASA should just rely on spacex and other private companies. The issues are not good and it delayed a lot of times.
Thanks man!
It doesn't make sense to test stuff in orbit when it should've been done on the ground or test stuff in orbit that failed whilst the spacecraft was on the pad or integration tower. It just adds to the risks to astronauts. Jettison the Starliner without astronauts and send a rescue craft or Dragon.
That one image of Soni in the ISS (4:30), fooled me for a moment: I thought Soni was treating herself to a beer during an ISS barbeque ... When, all the time, it was ACTUALLY just an odd microphone. Fancy that!
(well, that's what Soni could later claim during the inquiry...)🍺👩🚀🎤⁉️
Manned space flight is hard. The engineering that goes into developing a spacecraft capable of sustaining human life and take it into space and return to the earth is not an easy task. Instead of people hating on Boeing, they should be cheering them on and supporting all of the work their team is conducting to make a return to earth a safe one for the crew. We should all want Boeing to succeed in getting Starliner and it's Astronauts back to earth safely. The future of manned spaceflight by the U.S. only becomes stronger if we have two different viable manned craft available.
Your comment is one of the more positive and realistic comments I have seen on this latest video. Thanks for saying what needed to be said about this Starliner crew capsule.
I guess that all the trolls bashing Boeing have advanced degrees in aeronautical engineering and not just got 23 chromosomes in a lottery drawing.
*Starliner has a minor issue* "well this thing must be complete trash"
Why did they have to do this with humans in the first place?? Anyone know? Couldn't they have tested one more time w/o ppl. What did the astronauts do that couldn't have been done w/o them?
(i wonder if deep down inside those two astronauts are/were scared?)
NASA is afraid to use this ship.
Date undoking Boeing Starliner CST-100-3 NET June 21 at 11:42 pm EDT.
Is the cargo dragon , and soyous still attahed ??
What an embarrassment for NASA and Boeing.
Call Elon for an Uber ride. lol
Sucker needs some Flex Tape. Works for boats….
It probably should have been tested here on earth
Is there a plan for ejecting a disabled capsule?
Even if it's decided to put the crew on a Dragon to return them home, the Starliner will be sent back to do a re-entry unmanned to see how that part of the flight goes.
All I have say if Boeing can’t do a basic thing like making a leak prove helium manifold. Test it properly. Boeing should not be in the space business were peoples lives are at stake because the engines will fail. Propulsion engines are critical to the crew capsule.
Can you "do a basic thing" like learning basic grammar?
Thanks. interesting
I think Boeing is a mess but hating on starliner isnt helpful. The money has been spent, Boeing will correct these issues. The fixed price contract was a good deal for the tax payer. I wonder if the contract also has penalties if starliner isnt realiable? Just about every military aircraft has had issues or by the time they hit full rate production tons are spent to do upgrades. Just be happy Boeing was on the hook for all of the cost over-run.
What is wrong with your voice?
You are very hard to understand. You need to project your voice, enunciate your words more clearly (not mumble), and use some compression (and some EQ wouldn't hurt) on your mic.
I hope the astronauts get back OK, but I don't have confidence in Boeing's ability to build vehicles safely.
Quiet mumbling narrative…
The DOOMLINER will is just OK for freight
The new ride share
Launch with Boeing
Return with Space X
Open the pod bay doors HAL
What kind of fool would have gotten on that spacecraft to start with knowing Boeing built half the rocket and all of the crew capsule. Cut the starliner away from the ISS and let it burn up on the return to earth. Cancel all future Starliner missions and redistribute the money to SpaceX.
The astranauts are starving
Starliner is a death trap
You can't lose a Door in Space ....or propellent
Boeing: Hold my Beer
Just put a "fork in it it" and be done with it!
In other words, I warned NASA TO ABORT THE MISSION AND THEY DIDN’T LISTEN.
Get ready SpaceX. Rescue mission planning is top priority.
Why would NASA listen to some random guy on the internet who has no idea what he's talking about? And what makes you think that a rescue mission is necessary? Last I checked there's nothing so severely wrong with starliner that makes it so it can't reenter lol.
@@rgio1885 Listen to the transcripts if they haven’t already been deleted.
@@icare7151 Wanna give em to me?
Star whiner
Boeing: "Just trust us." No amount of polishing will make this turd shine.
Bob and Doug also spent far more time on the ISS than initially planned, but for entirely different reasons...
What were the different reasons?
@@jordanhenshaw As there were no technical difficulties, and the new crew rotation was not scheduled soon, they simply "converted" test flight into a "mini crew" visit. Test crew assumed regular ISS crew duties.
If it goes wrong, this could be the end for Boeing...full stop!
At least the ISS has supplies being shipped by Soyuz for the additional occupants
And Space-X can send help if needed.
Soyiz and crew dragon missions but yeah
All star liner test completed, why they still up there? Boeing is praying hard.
DEI and the lowest bidder, I wouldn't chance my life on anything made by Boeing. I'll keep my fingers crossed for the crew but Boeing is a bad bad idea.
Wasn’t a lowest bidder contract, it’s fixed price and Boring claims to be losing billions. Regardless of the contract vehicle, there are not many companies capable of making a rocket and capsule so there were never many candidates.
Remember Challenger? Columbia? NASA is not listening. As the famous saying goes: Those who do not learn from history, are doomed to repeat it.
And to paraphrase an adage... There are none so deaf as those who will not listen!
It seems like at this point it would be a simple decision to just let Starliner return autonomously. It does feel just like Challenger and Columbia except this time we all know and it's reasonable to just let those guys stay on the ISS.
Do you know something specific that both NASA's engineers and Starliner's don't? Or are you suggesting they should make consequential decisions on "vibes"?
Ah, so you know more about starliner then NASA? I mean, you must, otherwise I don't know what the hell you're talking about.
The purpose of the iss is to test space technology. They put their differences aside to make it and maintain.
Translation: We trouble shoot and repair in orbit from Earth. Let us work in peace, because it's hard and stressful. And more time is also needed to prepare an extra crew dragon for launch in case of an emergency. And please forget that NASA as a very professional organization planned the mission for a specific period to do and test everything within that time. Because we don't want scared astronauts. Let's keep things positive. Don't jinx the mission. We need 2-3 launch providers for crewed missions that are not from Russia.
Yes we need 2, crew dragon and hopefully dream catcher.
We don’t need Boeing under delivering over time and overpriced starliner.
Using an rocket depending on Russian made engines.
Three transporters = Spacex + Russia + China. Nice if Boeing can add to the list but not essential.
Don't forget the (near) future Dreamchaser
It's a lousy robot that is talking to its inmates.
Big elefant in the room
Boeing BDS and the commercial airline side are COMPLETELY different standards. The 2 are not comparable at all. Boeing and NASA agreed to let the starliner stay at the ISS longer to ensure the starliner can remain in space for a longer period of time for longer missions in the future. Yall need to learn to do your own research. The astronauts will return home safely when they undock and have plenty of supllies and fuel for the retrun to earth.
This, Im tired of people in the comments thinking they are experts on spaceflight
They're IDENTICAL and you are delusional. Sorry bub.