Will Boeing’s Crewed Starliner Leaks Affect Earth Re-entry?

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  • Опубликовано: 5 июл 2024
  • It’s now been about 6 days since Starliner docked to the International Space Station for the first time with Crew, and already teams are starting to prepare for undocking and reentry. This includes ground teams assessing the five helium leaks on Starliner to determine if they pose any risk for the return mission.
    A recent statement suggests that they don’t plan to leave the station until June 18th at the earliest. That gives the crew time to complete more Starliner-related tests at the station and ground crews to check and make sure the spacecraft is operating as intended. Here I will go more in-depth into the current state of Starliner, the impact of its leaks, the crew’s progress, and more.
    Full article here - thespacebucket.com/will-boein...
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    Chapters:
    0:00 - Intro
    0:34 - Helium Leak Status
    3:51 - Starliner's Return
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  • @leokimvideo
    @leokimvideo 23 дня назад +49

    Boeing are doing an amazing job in showing us all how incredible SpaceX is.

    • @carlharding5311
      @carlharding5311 23 дня назад +2

      Ah, here come the Musk fanbois. Write him, he’ll send you a lock of his hair.

    • @donpierce4829
      @donpierce4829 22 дня назад +1

      When you just build rockets like Space x they better be good, Boeing was the main contractor for going to moon and is the main contractor on the space station and was ahead of the shuttles! Also they are the ones sending the small secret shuttles for the Space Force secret missions. Just to name a few!!!

    • @brianroberts2402
      @brianroberts2402 22 дня назад +1

      What have you done lately???

    • @evankeal
      @evankeal 22 дня назад

      So young, so cute, so dumb

    • @matthewbearden2959
      @matthewbearden2959 22 дня назад

      Wasn't expecting to see leokimvideo here, lol. They all got issues one way or another.

  • @catbertz
    @catbertz 23 дня назад +57

    I hoping for a super safe return for Butch and Suni.

    • @angelzipp
      @angelzipp 23 дня назад +1

      On board of a Dragon

    • @carlharding5311
      @carlharding5311 22 дня назад +2

      @@angelzipp Another Musk fanboi. He’ll write you a scented love letter for a few dollars, if you ask nicely.

    • @thethirdman225
      @thethirdman225 22 дня назад

      @@angelzipp Admit it: you don’t know how this works, do you?

  • @timewaster504
    @timewaster504 24 дня назад +204

    I don't care how much people dislike the module, I hope everyone gets home safely

    • @TheDisgruntledImperial
      @TheDisgruntledImperial 24 дня назад +21

      Absolutely. Wouldn't cry if this poor performance extended the human flight certification timeline, though.

    • @nachoolo
      @nachoolo 24 дня назад +8

      @@TheDisgruntledImperial I would (not really, just disappointed), tho.
      Having more human-rated spacecrafts is nothing but a good thing. So I hope that these problems aren't severe enough to significantly delay the certification.

    • @ReinReads
      @ReinReads 23 дня назад +13

      While I certainly wish Starliner was developed on schedule and was working properly, that simply is not the case. If crew safety was top priority then they should be retuning on Crew Dragon or Soyuz while Boeing continues development uncrewed until they stop running into so many issues. Of course Boeing didn’t develop their flight suits to be compatible with the existing crew rated vehicles. Yet another design error that will make returning on an alternate capsule unnecessary complex and uncomfortable.
      The question is are you concerned about crew returning safely or are you concerned about crew returning safely on Starliner.

    • @imtired1696
      @imtired1696 23 дня назад

      Who said they shouldn't? 😳

    • @lawrenceherrel6370
      @lawrenceherrel6370 23 дня назад +1

      Absolutly. Life is more precious than politics.

  • @Ingens_Scherz
    @Ingens_Scherz 23 дня назад +34

    Let's hope and pray it gets back without any hitches.
    But honestly, what a piece of...

    • @johngalt2506
      @johngalt2506 23 дня назад +1

      It'll make point five past light speed....

    • @IvanMorningstar
      @IvanMorningstar 23 дня назад

      Let me continue this …… the acolytes

    • @carlharding5311
      @carlharding5311 22 дня назад

      Boeing has a huge history of innovative contribution to space exploration. They made the Saturn S-IC first stage for Apollo, were the main contractor for design, testing, construction and development of the Space Shuttle, the SLS core stage and numerous satellites. They were also the prime contractor for most American core ISS modules. They also made the Cupola, 2&3 connecting nodes and the IGC. By comparison, Musk and Spacex are babies…

    • @HessitheOriginal
      @HessitheOriginal 21 день назад +3

      @@carlharding5311 And once upon a time they made working planes ... but all the things you listed were pre merger with McDonnell Douglas

    • @tygerbyrn
      @tygerbyrn 21 день назад

      @@carlharding5311Before Boeing merged with McdD: engineering company. After merger with McdD: finance company.

  • @janibeg3247
    @janibeg3247 23 дня назад +8

    it is bizarre that the starliner leaks after years of testing

  • @antonnym214
    @antonnym214 24 дня назад +30

    They need some of that Flex Tape to fix those leaks. If it will hold a cracked aquarium, it should be fine.

    • @Paul_C
      @Paul_C 24 дня назад +3

      Sadly Helium is tiny... tape won't help.

    • @TheDisgruntledImperial
      @TheDisgruntledImperial 23 дня назад +7

      ​@@Paul_C but flex tape

    • @MrGchiasson
      @MrGchiasson 23 дня назад +4

      5 helium leaks! 5! Flax tape and 50 feet of duct tape.
      They'd have been better off using an Apollo capsule from a museum.
      I hope they don't gamble with the safety of the crew. Use a Spacex capsule..

    • @codeblocks4067
      @codeblocks4067 23 дня назад +2

      @@Paul_C This guy, I can tell you're not an engineer.... you don't even know the difference between tape and flex tape.

    • @leschortos9196
      @leschortos9196 21 день назад +1

      If duct tape is not the answer you're not asking the right question.....

  • @classic_sci_fi
    @classic_sci_fi 24 дня назад +60

    The astronauts likely are not in danger but so many issues doesn't bode well for the future. Boeing has a lot of issues with manufacturing, workmanship, and QA.

    • @EtzEchad
      @EtzEchad 23 дня назад +2

      NASA thought that Columbia and Challenger weren't in danger either.

    • @andywomack3414
      @andywomack3414 23 дня назад

      @@EtzEchad Whatever happened to the Space Shuttle idea? Starliner looks like what an Apollo capsule might have looked like had they continued with that concept.

    • @Feuxbos
      @Feuxbos 23 дня назад +1

      @@andywomack3414The Space Shuttle was an overpriced waste of time and money that could never live up to what we were promised.

    • @lenger1234
      @lenger1234 23 дня назад +3

      I'd be more worried about the heat shield than the thrusters and helium. It was chewed up more than expected, didn't ablate evenly. Nasa said that it was OK for orbital velocity reentry, but that it wouldn't likely survive returning at lunar velocities. They don't know why so they have a lot of work to do to figure that out

    • @andywomack3414
      @andywomack3414 23 дня назад

      @@Feuxbos I feel that way about the manned space program in general. We could have had hundreds of Mars rovers with those helicopters and made real progress at understand that and other planets with the money wasted on manned space flight. I feel cheated.

  • @user-kn5vp2qq6d
    @user-kn5vp2qq6d 24 дня назад +16

    Saving private Boeing. I wish all returns to Earth well. I wish everyone to return safely to earth.

    • @ThatOpalGuy
      @ThatOpalGuy 23 дня назад +1

      episode two: The Bailout.

  • @loafofbreadx
    @loafofbreadx 23 дня назад +30

    Challenger and Columbia both were destroyed because of things that seemed like not that big of a deal. This may seem like a small problem, but I think they should come down on dragon or soyuz.

    • @mathewferstl7042
      @mathewferstl7042 23 дня назад

      Buddy

    • @andyb.1026
      @andyb.1026 23 дня назад

      Obviously on Soyuz,, a proven vehicle with scores of successful trips, built by engineers.. America needs to wake up, and less BS 😢

    • @johnstone7697
      @johnstone7697 22 дня назад

      Apple....meet orange.

    • @loafofbreadx
      @loafofbreadx 22 дня назад

      @@johnstone7697 Loss of life because of negligence… meet loss of life because of negligence

    • @loafofbreadx
      @loafofbreadx 22 дня назад +1

      @@johnstone7697 I am very much hoping they come home safe, but it might be a dangerous vehicle.

  • @steve-gp1nc
    @steve-gp1nc 24 дня назад +54

    Launch “ As is” I think I heard that before the Challenger launched.

    • @jtjames79
      @jtjames79 23 дня назад +7

      I remember when there was absolutely no way foam could damage the Shuttle.

    • @giminai8000
      @giminai8000 23 дня назад +5

      @@jtjames79the foam was an issue since STS 1 and the O Rings for the solid rocket boosters was also an issue on the first Shuttle mission too and look at what happened both problems eventually caught up with NASA and as a result we lost 14 brave Astronauts

    • @jtjames79
      @jtjames79 23 дня назад +4

      @@giminai8000 Choosing to fly with cold o-rings killed the Challenger crew.
      Choosing to ignore the impact and send Atlantis to rescue killed the Colombia crew.
      They admit to the first, they still have an admitted to the second.
      I wouldn't trust NASA as far as Boeing can throw them.

  • @PhilClaffey
    @PhilClaffey 24 дня назад +16

    It's amazing that despite your accurate rundown, so many people don't listen. Thanks for the synopsis.

    • @nachoolo
      @nachoolo 24 дня назад +11

      Some people are just too invested in Starliner failing.

    • @brianroberts2402
      @brianroberts2402 24 дня назад +3

      That would be Boeing after their fixed price contract blew up their corporate asses!

    • @invisibleriverranch
      @invisibleriverranch 23 дня назад

      @@nachoolo they invested in everything we have failing , like they are nothings bumps on a log useless

  • @antonnym214
    @antonnym214 24 дня назад +25

    P.S. have you noticed, whenever they have a problem, it's always a valve? Always. At least the door stayed on.

    • @NormReitzel
      @NormReitzel 23 дня назад +5

      "A valve" or a "Programming problem." Boeing C-class Executive, "What do we do with all those idiot 737 Max porogrammers?" "I know, let 'em work on Styarliner.."

    • @witherking97
      @witherking97 23 дня назад +3

      No matter the company or vehicle, it's always the valve.

    • @DanKolis
      @DanKolis 23 дня назад +2

      The name is misleading; its not a valve its the electronics around it that has fallen asleep.
      A Manifold is a grab bag name for a sealed anything with ports like jets out of the craft of inward porting. Typically a housing poked full of tapped holes.
      Leaks are tough to avoid for 'thin' gases, believe me. Nat Gas, Helium or Hydrogen is hard to contain entirely. The actual goal of that is almost pointless.
      Pretty small leaks known not to matter much, well, don't matter at all. The things are connected mechanically now. I big ass manual 'all off' valve is undoubtedly closed. Boeing is fairly inept, but not quite that bad off for problem solving....
      Its only helium, I would have probably chosen a different gas, but He is super safe for porting to the human compartments. O2 blew up Apollo and killed the people in a ground test, USA space people are still reasonably enough worried about too much pure O2 in a space project

  • @ozicryptoG
    @ozicryptoG 23 дня назад +9

    A manned return on starliner is untenable at this point. It's simply too dangerous to take that risk.

    • @GreyDeathVaccine
      @GreyDeathVaccine 23 дня назад +2

      Did you watch video?

    • @michaeldeierhoi4096
      @michaeldeierhoi4096 23 дня назад +3

      Even in the face of facts that demonstrate the safety of Starliner some people will continue to hold onto a pessimistic attitude.

    • @phloxie
      @phloxie 22 дня назад

      @@michaeldeierhoi4096 but he is right, you don't fly faulty hardware because space does not forgive a mistake/error.
      Its just obvious they are lying and manipulating as best as they can to safe boeing.
      Oh vey they goyim knows

  • @kevinhancock6483
    @kevinhancock6483 24 дня назад +19

    I just hope they make it back safe an alive....
    Then they scrap the Over Budget , money pit whole program along with the over budget, money pit SLS...too....a total waste of money...no reason to continue

    • @lordgarion514
      @lordgarion514 23 дня назад

      Starliner isn't a cost-plus contract.
      Its fixed price. They got $1.6 billion more than SpaxeX did, but supposedly they're around a half billion over budget. But it's their half billion.
      Hope it costs them another half billion before it's over.
      But SLS is definitely trash.
      SLS is also directly mandated by Congress to be cost-plus.
      NASA even testified before Congress that the cost-plus contracs wereent working, and the cost was "unsustainable".
      Congress ordered NASA to keep using cost-plus contracts......
      Senate Launch System is the perfect name.

    • @andywomack3414
      @andywomack3414 23 дня назад

      There are several things humans can do in space that machines cannot,. Piss, shit, get sick, have sex, to name a few.
      As far as research and discovery, machines can handle those things cheaper, more effectively and with way less risk of killing people.
      Engaging in Star Trek fantasies has wasted decades of finding out about the solar system and beyond.

    • @plainText384
      @plainText384 23 дня назад +2

      They are already contracted to fly another ~6 missions to the ISS, and Boeing will (have to) fly those. The commercial crew program contract for Starliner is also a fixed price contract, meaning it can not go over budget, at least from NASA's perspective, as any budget overruns need to be paid for by Boeing themselves.
      Whether the Starliner program is canceled in the 2030s, when there are no more AtlasV launch vehicles left, Boeing's initial contract is complete and the ISS is nearing end-of-life, is an open question.

  • @HandyMan657
    @HandyMan657 23 дня назад +28

    I hope Boeing doesn't sacrifice these fellows due to pride.

    • @moonasha
      @moonasha 23 дня назад +1

      at the end of the day it's probably NASA's call

    • @SillySausage-mq3so
      @SillySausage-mq3so 23 дня назад +2

      Nasa did that a few times .

    • @Voxabonable
      @Voxabonable 17 дней назад

      It's not pride they're concerned about by a long shot. It's share prices and contractual consequences.

  • @mathewferstl7042
    @mathewferstl7042 23 дня назад +6

    A lot of highly qualified and experienced aerospace engineers in this comment section lmao

  • @donaldhoot7741
    @donaldhoot7741 23 дня назад +4

    It's been said before, many times, many ways, don't forget the door bolts. Happy landing Boeing!

    • @nickdonovan1447
      @nickdonovan1447 23 дня назад +1

      It's righty tighty and lefty lucy Boeing 😂😂😂

  • @brettlanglois8769
    @brettlanglois8769 22 дня назад

    Thanks for the update!

  • @nealmacdonald8191
    @nealmacdonald8191 23 дня назад +2

    Hope Butch and Suni enjoy their ride on Dragon.

  • @JenniferA886
    @JenniferA886 23 дня назад +6

    Good point… although, I have a feeling that starliners days/ hours are numbered. I hope too the crew arrives safely

    • @plainText384
      @plainText384 23 дня назад

      Starliner is almost certain to fly through 2030, just based on the contract Boeing already signed. Though I wouldn't be surprised if Boeing doesn't extend it after that.

    • @chrisendacott8765
      @chrisendacott8765 22 дня назад

      Given ISS is planned to deorbit anyway, there's not much point considering an extension. Any new station is a whole new ballgame.

  • @lawrieyoutube4375
    @lawrieyoutube4375 23 дня назад +2

    Thanks for the great updates. I find your presentation style and structure such a pleasure to watch and listen to. Concise and informative with an excellent balance of fact and interpretation. The length is just right. 🙂🙂You treat us like adults. AND, you don't use your voice and accent like a weapon like so many 'presenters'. Note, I didn't go to your channel for a long time simply because the channel name put me off. My mistake. Subscribed. Best wishes for success.🙂

  • @michaelreid2329
    @michaelreid2329 24 дня назад +6

    I'm guessing another demonstration flight which highlighted furthet issue with the capsule means Boeing doesn't get approval for crewed flight.

  • @Yaivenov
    @Yaivenov 23 дня назад +3

    *Soyuz looking over at Starliner* "First time?"

  • @LuciFeric137
    @LuciFeric137 23 дня назад +2

    Looking at NASA history, they will roll the dice and "go for it" rather than be embarrassed

    • @michaeldeierhoi4096
      @michaeldeierhoi4096 23 дня назад +2

      That assumes that NASA hasn't learned from past mistakes. If you think that then it is you that hasn't kept up with the current understanding at NASA. They aren't perfect by any means, but they do a lot better in many ways.

  • @russmilleson1285
    @russmilleson1285 24 дня назад +58

    They need to send up Dragon for the crew and let Starliner come back to earth empty and if all goes well then carry on

    • @SebastianWellsTL
      @SebastianWellsTL 24 дня назад +8

      That would be so fitting considering all the time and money Starliner has had in relation to the Dragon capsule.

    • @Coolguy-wl9ng
      @Coolguy-wl9ng 24 дня назад +2

      The problem is Starliner in dragon dark on the same docking port

    • @Oldman5261
      @Oldman5261 24 дня назад +6

      That is not currently necessary. There is plenty to safety build into the current mission. No manned mission is completely risk free. The US needs two functional manned spacecraft.

    • @brianroberts2402
      @brianroberts2402 24 дня назад +3

      No we don't!
      We have one that works flawlessly.
      See also Soyuz.

    • @rafepittenger7484
      @rafepittenger7484 24 дня назад +4

      nope we don't need space x who doesn't follow the validation rules.

  • @dissaid
    @dissaid 24 дня назад

    Thanks!

  • @user-bd5nh5eb4b
    @user-bd5nh5eb4b 23 дня назад +2

    What is confusing is if the helium has plenty of redundancy and the valves are " working as normal" why the delay in reentry?

  • @roosterd6904
    @roosterd6904 23 дня назад +4

    They should send them home in the extra Russian capsule. Boeing's roll the dice capsule should be a no go. You don't risk lives on crappy equipment. If Vegas is betting on your ride, get another.

  • @geesehoward700
    @geesehoward700 24 дня назад +4

    I dont know why your channel doesnt have 500k+ followers. you have rapidly replaced all the other space channels i used to follow.

    • @chrisendacott8765
      @chrisendacott8765 22 дня назад +1

      Agree. I'm glad we have a source that isn't trying the whole clickbait sensationalist crap I left other channels for. I like the format.

  • @aakashjohn2847
    @aakashjohn2847 20 дней назад

    How much speed both with travel during this process?

  • @malakiblunt
    @malakiblunt 23 дня назад +3

    "if its boeing - i aint going"

  • @gravityawsome
    @gravityawsome 24 дня назад +9

    It suck that it may have to take another accident for Boeing to get it's act together or be removed from the plan entirely.

    • @RaoulStankovitch
      @RaoulStankovitch 24 дня назад +2

      Blame the Grubbament and Boeing for agreeing to be their partner.

  • @TommasoPaba
    @TommasoPaba 23 дня назад +2

    They should just do the reentry of the empty capsule in auto mode and send a Dragon to pick the astronauts up.

    • @robertmiranda2444
      @robertmiranda2444 23 дня назад +1

      Exactly, no use risking lives. Any data they want can still be obtained.

  • @iankester-haney3315
    @iankester-haney3315 23 дня назад +2

    It's not going to fly that frequently. It's still alternating with Dragon, so about 1 time a year launch.

  • @RoBear-xo6zw
    @RoBear-xo6zw 24 дня назад +1

    So, after the Whitehouse talk with Suni and Butch… no chance of crewed abort prior to undocking

  • @thorenshammer
    @thorenshammer 23 дня назад +1

    If nothing else, this reveals that Boeing has a lot more work to do on the Starliner to improve its reliability as a spacecraft. No program, including Starliner or Dragon, is 100% free of the dangers that space travel poses. Traveling to space is hard, and should never be taken for granted.

  • @FloppyHatss
    @FloppyHatss 23 дня назад +1

    If this is how boeing treats a SPACESHIP, how do you think they are treating airplanes.

  • @tompantle3884
    @tompantle3884 23 дня назад +1

    I think the helium leaks and malfunctioning thrusters are in the Service Module, which is jettisoned before re-entry,. so everything should be fine. Hopefully.
    Hell of a way to run a space program...

  • @BulletproofPastor
    @BulletproofPastor 23 дня назад +1

    Hopefully, they measured Butch and Suni for SpaceX suits in the event they need to send up an empty rescue Dragon Crew "lifeboat." Honestly, ONE small leak now grows to FIVE? This is sadly typical.

  • @FishyAltFishy
    @FishyAltFishy 23 дня назад +3

    Boeing 2022:
    VALVE?????
    Boeing 2024:
    VALVE?????

    • @zotfotpiq
      @zotfotpiq 23 дня назад +1

      Elon in 2020:
      Starship will definitely be landing on Mars by 2024
      Elon in 2024:
      Landing on Mars turned out to be the friends Starship made along the way.
      😂

    • @FishyAltFishy
      @FishyAltFishy 23 дня назад +2

      @@zotfotpiq it was supposed to land on mars first in 2022 🤣

  • @gregoryfaith4303
    @gregoryfaith4303 24 дня назад +36

    Do not undock that spacecraft manned. People are not a throwaway item.

    • @matthewwiemken7293
      @matthewwiemken7293 24 дня назад +8

      Boeing begs to differ

    • @Oldman5261
      @Oldman5261 24 дня назад +2

      Who says they are? You are not making sense.

    • @ProBallerJake2
      @ProBallerJake2 24 дня назад +1

      @@Oldman5261leave.

    • @gregoryfaith4303
      @gregoryfaith4303 23 дня назад

      @@Oldman5261 the thing is leaking helium needed to pressurize the reaction control jets.

    • @heyaisdabomb
      @heyaisdabomb 23 дня назад +2

      @@gregoryfaith4303 And after those control jets failed when trying to line up to dock. It's possible they don't preform correctly on re-entry again.

  • @skeeterman7144
    @skeeterman7144 24 дня назад +4

    Boeing is under extreme pressure to perform being many years behind and is burning cash. Asking for help via SpaceX seems unlikely because egos won’t let them. The only way this can be solved is if Butch speaks up. This is insane.

    • @silentowlscribe
      @silentowlscribe 22 дня назад +1

      Egos caused the Challenger accident in 1986. That mission was behind and NASA wanted to get the teacher into space. Temperatures were nearly freezing and the O-rings would not be as effective at those air temperatures.

  • @mattjames9174
    @mattjames9174 23 дня назад +2

    There's a decompression emergency on iss right now. But they say it's not related.

    • @Wurtoz9643
      @Wurtoz9643 23 дня назад +3

      That was a false alarm and was not real.

  • @emonk042
    @emonk042 23 дня назад +2

    At least it wasn't the capsule. If it was, I wonder if they would have sent a dragon up?

  • @iancarrington1967
    @iancarrington1967 23 дня назад +1

    StarLiner, StarShip, it’s like calling a dugout canoe an ocean liner

  • @TheCNYMike
    @TheCNYMike 23 дня назад +1

    Before they found the 5th leak, they said Starliner was good for seventy hours of flight, and the trip back to Earth takes seven.

  • @RoBear-xo6zw
    @RoBear-xo6zw 24 дня назад +2

    😮Thrusters, valves, leaks, and this can be certified 😂

  • @ltdees2362
    @ltdees2362 23 дня назад +3

    .. it was just a "small leak they said"...there is "plenty of helium fuel they said"...it'll be "just fine they said"...
    So ask the families of the Challenger & Columbia crews...

    • @MrShobar
      @MrShobar 23 дня назад +1

      Which had nothing to do with this. They said.

  • @pilot341
    @pilot341 24 дня назад

    Try it now!

  • @kaiserwhence2468
    @kaiserwhence2468 24 дня назад +4

    That's not even jokeable anymore...i mean like srsly

  • @ThatOpalGuy
    @ThatOpalGuy 23 дня назад

    spaceflight will never be without loss.

  • @RickTheClipper
    @RickTheClipper 24 дня назад +6

    Challenger, Columbia, NASA does not learn

    • @danielbrowniel
      @danielbrowniel 24 дня назад +9

      I think you think it's possible to do this stuff without any failure. That isn't the case. Challenger and Columbia both failed in different ways. The reason Starliner sucks is because Boeing as a company is a shell of what it used to be. The people that engineer these things probably have more bosses than they have fingers and NO one owns that shit.
      With Space X they have culture where lead engineers have to own their decisions. An atmosphere where people feel comfortable to make changes is a place where excellence can happen. This is why Apollo was so successful and the Shuttle days had so many blunders/ not just with the shuttle but with shuttle missions like Hubble. Hubble was embarrassing as hell. Hopefully Space X will not have cultural rot like Boeing has.

    • @RickTheClipper
      @RickTheClipper 24 дня назад +1

      @@danielbrowniel In both cases NASA knew that there was a "flaw" a minor problem, until it killed the astronauts

    • @plainText384
      @plainText384 23 дня назад

      Shuttle was designed for a 1/90 chance of fatal accident, while both commercial crew capsules were designed for a 1/270 chance. NASA has learned from the Shuttle, and the next generation of crewed spacecraft, including Starliner, is designed to be a lot safer.

    • @michaeldeierhoi4096
      @michaeldeierhoi4096 23 дня назад

      ​@@danielbrowniel What was so embarrassing about Hubble?? It has been in operation for more than 30 years. The only embarrassment was at the beginning when NASA chose not to test it because of cost constraints. But it was fixed and has worked exceptionally well since then!

  • @mwh3227
    @mwh3227 23 дня назад +1

    Maybe Boeing left out a bolt somewhere?

  • @ranmatardis4236
    @ranmatardis4236 23 дня назад +4

    Starliner should return without crew and a Dragon sent to the station to rescue the crew. Last time NASA took a risk they killed 7 astronauts.

    • @michaeldeierhoi4096
      @michaeldeierhoi4096 23 дня назад

      You are making the mistake that the problem with the shuttle Challenger is the same as that in the Starliner AND that the space community has learned nothing since the shuttle program!!
      In fact the circumstance today is wholly different.

    • @ranmatardis4236
      @ranmatardis4236 22 дня назад +1

      @@michaeldeierhoi4096, you forgot to mention Columbia. NASA was so sure it would land safety.

    • @michaeldeierhoi4096
      @michaeldeierhoi4096 21 день назад

      @@ranmatardis4236 Like I said different circumstance. The heat shield on Starliner is an ablative heat shield which is very different from the tiles used on the shuttle which could be dislodged.
      The heat shield has not been shown to have been an issue. The issues with Starliner have all centered on the helium leaks which both NASA and Boeing have said are well within limits and thus should not affect the function of the RCS thrusters. But of course we have to wait and see don't we?!

  • @jgrawn
    @jgrawn 23 дня назад

    What they need is Billy Mays with Mighty Putty! Seriously, apply it to the leaks. Why not? Sometimes simple solutions are best. I don't think Amazon will deliver in space though.

  • @eatfastnoodle
    @eatfastnoodle 21 день назад +1

    say nothing happens and starliner returned safely, then what? Does NASA certify it for future, projected 6 more contracted missions or not? it does look like there are quite a few issues found

  • @gegwen7440
    @gegwen7440 24 дня назад +2

    Now I wonder if “any” of those doing this analysis of the state of play with this troubled module would risk coming back in it themselves (?)
    Yes of course not, simply ask Dragon or Soyuz if they can provide a safer ride back home.

  • @randywise5241
    @randywise5241 24 дня назад +2

    They kind of need them. they barely docked on backups. Now they need to land with backups. If just one thruster that still works messes up, it will tumble into the atmosphere and burn up. We still do not know if they fixed the parachute issue or the airbags. Boing it willing to risk the crew's life for money.

    • @lordgarion514
      @lordgarion514 23 дня назад +1

      And they got in it knowing all that.
      That's ballsy as hell.
      I wouldn't have, and I damn sure wouldn't be getting on it now.

  • @eddjordan2399
    @eddjordan2399 23 дня назад +2

    there appears to have just been an event on the iss a commander has had a depress? hope this is nothing todo the starliner and everyone is safe. EVERYTHING IS FINE JUST A DRILL AUDIO OVER THE NETS.

  • @NormReitzel
    @NormReitzel 23 дня назад +1

    "more freqyently..." more frequent than once every eight years?

  • @morganoverbay8783
    @morganoverbay8783 21 день назад

    Maybe when the starliner lands at mach nine it'll BOUNCE!! BOING, BOING, BOING !!

  • @williammccallum4760
    @williammccallum4760 23 дня назад +1

    I would not set another foot on that ship. Send me another fucking space craft.

  • @Paul_C
    @Paul_C 24 дня назад +2

    Sorry, but they should have Dragon on standby. Basically as a rescue unit. Just the phrase: 'It shouldn't be a problem' in itself IS a problem.

    • @Lonemacaroon
      @Lonemacaroon 23 дня назад +1

      Dragon is not gonna be on standby if there is something wrong they would jettison the starliner and burn it up in earth. But they would stay in the iss until they can get another capsule to get them

  • @user-mr3cz5vt6n
    @user-mr3cz5vt6n 12 дней назад

    Just 'safe' will do.

  • @dtsh4451
    @dtsh4451 23 дня назад +1

    Boeing deems these astronauts whistle blowers😂

  • @tedwalford7615
    @tedwalford7615 23 дня назад +4

    Although the return might be considered safe enough despite the known leaks and known valve failure, those elements were once not failed but now are, and so the remaining elements might should be considered untrustworthy. Therefore the decision on returning a crew in this equipment has to evaluate if it would still be safe if additional leaks occur and additional valves fail.

    • @mathewferstl7042
      @mathewferstl7042 23 дня назад +1

      "The clock broke on my aircraft. That means all other systems are untrustworthy and we have to a complete Aircraft rundown" that's just not how issues are dealt with

  • @pauljohansen8043
    @pauljohansen8043 23 дня назад +1

    Clickbait. They have several redundant ways of bringing capsules home.

  • @MalrusOSC
    @MalrusOSC 24 дня назад +7

    If this capsule fails re-entry and as much as I hate myself for typing this, the loss of the crew, then Boeing and NASA are actually done for. They should’ve aborted the docking when they had the chance. I’m praying that they get home safely

  • @daveindiego06
    @daveindiego06 23 дня назад

    6 now...

  • @dlc2112dlc
    @dlc2112dlc 16 дней назад

    Around 17500 miles an hour is cruising speed for everything in space.

  • @lawrenceherrel6370
    @lawrenceherrel6370 23 дня назад

    The helium issue should be flight solved before the capsule is crew certified

    • @michaeldeierhoi4096
      @michaeldeierhoi4096 23 дня назад

      Are you saying that you fully understand the use of helium in the RCS thrusters? Are you aware of the technical specs on the device and where the tolerance for less than nominal function lies??
      Yeah sure you do!?

  • @peterwilson7532
    @peterwilson7532 23 дня назад

    Astronauts signed up knowing the risks. There is maybe a one in one hundred chance of death. We rightly don't stop people from climbing the mountain K2, which had a 25% or one in four death rate early on, even now it's one in seven or 14%.
    People should be allowed to make their own risk analysis and held responsible for it. I don't mourn the Space Shuttle's 14 deaths, I admire the courage and adventure of those willing to live that risk for the experience.
    It is only tragic when someone walking along a path to the local shops gets flattened by a truck with a puncture. They personally took little risk and were caught up in a random incident which killed them.

  • @erikcade
    @erikcade 20 дней назад

    nasa is going to have to send a rescue mission to rescue them

  • @techpappee
    @techpappee 23 дня назад

    They need to call SpaceX for a lift home 😂

  • @supergeek0177
    @supergeek0177 23 дня назад

    Considering everything, they should just undock it uncrewed at this point and just have the astronauts return via dragon just to be safe!

  • @giminai8000
    @giminai8000 23 дня назад +2

    Honestly instead of docking to the space station they should have aborted the mission and got our astronauts home such unnecessary risk

  • @williamleslie4939
    @williamleslie4939 22 дня назад

    No, they won't "impact" them, but they might affect them.

  • @RidiculousRocketry
    @RidiculousRocketry 23 дня назад +8

    I’m not defending Boeing, but it feels like people are just piling on. Honestly, they’ve brought this on themselves. I hope they can redeem some credibility by completing this mission and solving the helium leak issues rapidly.
    It’s in the best interest of the United States to have multiple, domestic companies participating in space industry.

    • @Scotch20
      @Scotch20 23 дня назад

      Not if it requires government favoritism. Boeing isn't true competition if they're handed contracts spacex could do better.
      I'd rather boeing die and some actually competent businesses take their market share

    • @Mentaculus42
      @Mentaculus42 23 дня назад

      “Piling on”, kinda typical human nature, particularly from … Tho Boeing has been shooting themselves in their foot for sometime now. Sad state of affairs.

    • @zimriel
      @zimriel 23 дня назад

      Boeing joined the DEI pile-on against my people, I'm fine joining a pile-on against them and their arrogant incompetence

    • @kirgan1000
      @kirgan1000 23 дня назад

      There are a problem with the Starliner on the ground. Boeing say that the problem is small and isolated, but in space the problem problem is large then Boeing predicted. That is very bad, because Boeing was wrong in there prognosis. How can Boeing be trusted?
      It do not matter that the backup have a backup, and the backup to the backup have a backup, because Boeing was wrong.

  • @taurusx1000
    @taurusx1000 24 дня назад +1

    Why take chances

  • @donepearce
    @donepearce 22 дня назад

    Did you really mean to include the phrase "impact earth" in your title?

  • @patricklewis7636
    @patricklewis7636 24 дня назад +1

    Needs more work.

  • @mnblkjh6757
    @mnblkjh6757 22 дня назад

    Hmm didn’t that Russian craft have similar leaks also

  • @nealmacdonald8191
    @nealmacdonald8191 23 дня назад

    Boeing's Crude Star liner

  • @anthonykevinkerr3594
    @anthonykevinkerr3594 23 дня назад

    Very few people would consider a bus ride to require bravery. Boeing has tried to portray this mission as normal - it is not because Boeing had helium, leaks and RCS failures on the last launch and valve issues before that. Space is an incredibly hostile environment for living creatures which the astronauts being highly intelligent understand. So to proceed to orbit with known faults highlights their bravery and the Boeing attitude towards safety v profit. The FAA has recognised that Boeing needs to get its act together, NASA needs to withhold human certification of Starliner until then or accept that Falcon 9 and Dragon are much safer than Starliner and cheaper per seat. Competing redundant systems are only worthwhile if they both work.

  • @maldzmahalko590
    @maldzmahalko590 23 дня назад

    Dragon is just 1 call away just like 911

  • @fisherkieds6282
    @fisherkieds6282 23 дня назад

    Don't take the chance,send the dragon

  • @BB-iq4su
    @BB-iq4su 23 дня назад

    Can be sent back MT. Spacex can give them a ride home.

  • @saturnfive2073
    @saturnfive2073 21 день назад

    I think starliner is coming back without the astronauts. There reaction control thusters are a mess and could cause major problems if they misfire

  • @zmblion
    @zmblion 24 дня назад +20

    If they lose this crew it will be nasas fault. As far as im concerned the first 2 un crewed missions where a failure and they should have done un crewed missions until everything was fixed. They got impatient. They should have either waited longer or scrapped Boeing all together

    • @SiXiam
      @SiXiam 24 дня назад +11

      If it was SpaceX on the first crewed mission they wouldn't have launched with the helium leak. This is politics.

    • @eugenecbell
      @eugenecbell 23 дня назад +1

      This is the same mistake we keep making over and over again.
      Apparently we (humans) can’t learn from our mistakes.
      God bless and save the craft and crew.

  • @raygan777able
    @raygan777able 23 дня назад

    Gosh. Please dun risk it

  • @nadiaplaysgames2550
    @nadiaplaysgames2550 23 дня назад

    Qhile im pro more things in space starliner is eekin me out small errors are ok a small error could mean boom or no boom i the wrong place

  • @David-dl3vj
    @David-dl3vj 23 дня назад

    Shit, I hope Spacex has a dragon on Falcon locked and loaded, ready to go. But over all I hope the occupants get home SAFELY.🙏

    • @MrShobar
      @MrShobar 23 дня назад

      Np. No you really don't.

  • @i-love-space390
    @i-love-space390 23 дня назад +2

    Everyone is piling on Boeing. But almost every problem Boeing has had recently, after the parachutes and software were fixed, have been directly related to AeroJet-Rocketdyne valves and thrusters. The original issues with the Abort system valves : Aj-R. The corroded valves on the first unmanned attempts for the second test flight: Aj-R.
    Current Helium leaks and low performing thrusters: Aj-R.
    I would wager if it was even possible to use another company for their thrusters and valves, Boeing's problems would suddenly evaporate. Unfortunately, that would require a redesign.
    Much like the commercial airliner industry that has a limited number of suppliers that makes them essentially invulnerable to market forces, the rocket thruster business is much the same. Boeing definitely benefits from the situation in the Airliner industry, and it has made their commercial airliner division fat, lazy, careless, and basically arrogant and greedy. Now their spacecraft division is getting the Karmic blowback in the form of a legacy provider Aj-R that is becoming lazy, overpriced, careless, and arrogant.
    SpaceX really made good decisions when they chose to be more vertically integrated and do as much as possible in-house. That way they control their own destiny on Q-C. Even with that, substandard struts used in the second stage caused a giant RUD on one of the Falcon 9 flights.

  • @Rene-uz3eb
    @Rene-uz3eb 23 дня назад

    On the one hand the explanations sound reasonable, that the various small failures are not critical to the safety of the capsule, and that there are thousands of parts on this thing. On the other, why are there these issues? These govt sponsored missions are as expensive as nasa's and should be as failure proof. Every part is super expensive and should have zero chance of failure. So this would give me pause in trusting the remaining construction. I think they called on their guardian angels enough with going up here, they should let the capsule return without passengers they'll still get most of the data, and use dragon for return just in case something else goes wrong.

  • @WayneMacLean-lj8lb
    @WayneMacLean-lj8lb 24 дня назад +1

    Hopefully the gas that is leaking are not big enough to go up into the parachutes on the way down. Because like in a car the exhaust goes out the back as the vehicle is going forward or going down. It is a piece of garbage. The list of problems and repairs to this thing so far has been long from tape that was flammable and the valves the computer problem and the leaks. Why not just use it for supplies and no people. Supplies can be replaced but people cannot.

    • @dks13827
      @dks13827 24 дня назад +2

      Helium is inert.

    • @Wurtoz9643
      @Wurtoz9643 23 дня назад

      IIRC all of the leaks are on the service module which is jettisoned before reentry

  • @doneB830
    @doneB830 23 дня назад

    I don’t advise further travel in this vehicle with humans on board, so what if this is going to cost money.

  • @tech5298
    @tech5298 24 дня назад +13

    That’s my guess; they should NOT be allowed to return in that thing. It’ll be a lot easier and cheaper on everybody to send a dragon up there to bring them back.

  • @hughwitherington7956
    @hughwitherington7956 23 дня назад

    I am feeling more and more concerned about the continuance of this project. Apart from the ongoing astronomical and rising costs, the continuing and ongoing fault conditions arising I find myself feeling more and more concerned for the safety of the crew. As you have rightly stated "we shall just have to see how it goes". Well I am sure that you feel the same as i do that we are dealing with peoples lives and hoping that they get down ok is just not good enough. Since things are continuing to go wrong then they are quite loikely to continue going wrong on the way down. I dont want the astronauts to chance their lives on blind faith. I think they should stay on the ISS and call on SpaceX for the return journey.
    Let's face the facts would any reader feel confident and take this risk given the ongoing circumstances?
    This is just my personal view point so please respect that and don't shout at me !

  • @rafepittenger7484
    @rafepittenger7484 24 дня назад

    Nope, American know how and knowleges says go for it, I believe RCS has no effect on re entry. It is the ablative shield that is what I'm worried about.

    • @lordgarion514
      @lordgarion514 23 дня назад +2

      You don't hit the atmosphere at just whatever angle you happen to hit it at. You need thrusters to get the very exact angle you need.
      If you hit it wrong, it doesn't go well.

  • @user-lp8qp2un9v
    @user-lp8qp2un9v 24 дня назад

    I knew it flunk the overspent on junk lack of quality control