GGG: we removed left click for instant skills but added new gems to trigger spells and warcries automatically instead GGG next league: automated warcries dont grant buffs or charges anymore no need to summon totems for melee buffs, back to manually using warcies for buffs
Also the removal of Call to Arms. No longer automating the Enduring Cry for its buffs. The new Autoexertion doesn't give any buffs from warcries. So back to using macros or manually spamming a key (nobody thinks that's fun). Also banners rework is another big nerf to defences of many non-melee characters.
In my humble opinion, the last time we had so many nerfs, and harsh ones at it, was 3.15 and people raged. The reason being GGG told us straight up that they nerfed a lot of stuff. 3.25 feels like they nerfed a lot of stuff but just don't tell us straight up.... For me the biggest one has been nerfed over a stretch of multiple leagues. Started with the change of the Keystone "Call to Arms" into a support Gem "Call to Arms" which made it impossible to gain life for automated warcry use (mastery), no it is a new gem which stops giving you buffs from the warcries and makes it impossible to gain charges from the "used" warcries... This is supposed to be a melee league, "totems are tidious, let's remove them" and make warcries clunky AF and totems 3/4 useless.
with some nodes, you easily get 48 rage and with berserker ascendancy its 72% more attack damage, 72% increased attackspeed and if you want you can get Movement speed and armour from rage via the tree thats without berserk gem (which would add 28%more attack damage and yareyare). The less damage taken still hurts a lot. And rage generation is muuuuch better now, when you invest into it, right? I mean sure in generell its not as versatile as it was but i guess its a "nice to add" thing at least.
Ive been playing Static Strike Shockwave Slyer Replica Alberons since Crucible and I was planning on going Chieftain with Normal Alberons this league and with 3.25 patch notes Chieftain gets Sione, Suns Roar Node where Warcry Power is Infinite so he doesnt need to use Redblade Banner. I looked at Rathpith Globe and it gives roughly 350% increased Spell Damage which is about a 50% MORE damage increase and with the new Retaliation Skill Divine Retribution (the one that is a spell and thunder rains down) it is possible to use that over Frozen Legion (depending on how Retaliation skills function). However, the biggest problem with the Battlemage Cry Nerf is being forced to use Crown of Eyes where we would need to find Accuracy Rating and additional Crit Chance elsewhere (due to not using the Elevated Helmet). TWWT (aka Perandus Pact) can mostly solve the Crit Chance but the Accuracy you would have to get on items/Precision Aura or use Split Personality for +5 Str and +40 Accuracy (which isnt too bad but lose out on roughly 200 life per jewel). The new Battlemages Cry still gives a nice chunk of Crit Chance so you would probably want to use it. Enduring Cry and other Crys might be ones to also consider as Endurance Charges are OP. Once Accuracy and Crit Chance was solved, the damage was actually 40% higher due to Rathpith Globe and Getting Rage.
For this build, Hatred is a nerf, HoAsh is a buff, Blessing is a nerf. EK ignite after certain level of gear threshold has always been overkill DMG for what it's designed for. Is it viable for T16, yes. Is it going to be smooth for T17, that's where the defense nerf comes in, not the DMG nerf(GGG drastically reduce T17 mobs hp). So your concern shouldn't be the DMG nerf, but how you plan to stay alive and comfy in T17 without capping PTE defenses.
Rage seems stronger to me now for slower builds. For my upcoming bleed gladiator i can get 57 rage, not counting items. With just Rigwalds command, that will be 114 bleed multi.
@@dr3v240 I don't think bleed bow overall is killed, but glad specifically is not very good for it now other than explodes. The aggravated change isn't very good for the build specifically since uptime with ensnaring arrow was already built in and the only other usable point is the scaling damage. Outside of the scaling damage (which takes time to build), the build just lost a lot of more damage from ascendancy points - 20% more from gratuitous, 10% more from blood in the eyes, 10% more from outmatch and outlast. That being said, I swapped to champ pretty early last league and got the flame/flesh for gratuitous, so that's just a 20% more loss from that. It's still a playable build and will be good enough, but I do think it's worse.
A lot of things are nerfed, i played strength stacker last league, it was soo fun. Sad to see it's gone now. Although, there are a lot of buffs. Bleed bow glad is also gone, SAD i never got to play it :(
Looking at divine blessing, hatred, and herald of ash nerfs, do you think ek is still worth playing? The new crafts look promising, so damage wise maybe we can still hit dot cap with a little more investment, but losing divine blessing is what I don't think we can recover from... Looking forward to your maxroll update for ek and if it is till viable I will definitely give it a spin mid league
Hatred wasn't unexpected either. It was by far the most powerful aura for years with very good watchers eye mods as well. I am surprised Indigon didn't get capped at 800~ tho.
@mbXtreme first of all I love you man, love your content, but is really funny to me, that usually reddit and everything else is on flammes and you're always positive and this patch that everyone is more or less happy you're kind of "THE NERFS!! THE NERFS!!"
Cold dot losing hatred is massive. I really hate this change, my katabasis caught a stray. However, im gonna make the character speedy now with haste instead of hatred, so its not a complete loss at like a 1/3 mirror range :)) ... Or I can just put skitterbots which is lower damage but lower reservation, which is quite nice.
strong words for saying str stacking builds are dead when they could just use crown of eyes instead of the warcry. unless i am missing something massive to why they CANT run that helmet, i know about the influenced rare helmet mods but that doesnt mean its dead. .. only builds i know that relied on the warcry entirely was mana stacking ones with indigon like manaforged arrow builds for delving
how much i hatedmage i can't explain. It was worst shhhh everyone utilizes. it was the worst design to come with. Worse than melee totems. EVERYONE builded it to convert str phys to magic and return to melee with iron node. it was so stupid.
there were so many nerfs though most of the balance was nerfs. Melee sure got 2x damage via gems but lost Totems and totems were a 2x damage buff so i fail to see where melee got buffed not only that but melee is so much slower due to totem removal and rage attack speed removal. I looked at my old flicker builds pre and post nerf they have the same dps only difference is i attack 50% slower making it feel worse as i need to wait for animations to finish now
@@JumpShotHD I'm not saying there weren't nerfs just that got one of the most exciting chunks of news in PoE in quite a while and it's all negativity all the way down. No "this is what I'm excited for" video or "these are the cool new changes coming soon" it's off the rip Debby downer.
@@scottcrocker3265 When I saw they deleted Ancestral Protector I knew Strike Melee was going to feel just... bad along with the removal of Strike Range on the Gems. The GGG video talked mostly about Changes and didn't go over any of the ramifications of losing any of the tools that made strike melee feel good. If the Rage Clusters had the Berserker Node where Rage = Attack Speed (even at half the amount) then it would be good but its not. I would rather hit softer but attack faster as it would improve the game flow and feel of the character. Tons of cool content to look forward to but the amount of nerfs wasnt even talked about in the GGG stream or just gleamed over.
Armour is trash when monsters have the mod “overwhelm physical reduction” and alot of monsters have that mod along with a couple more on top of it.. and this is VERY bad for melee builds having the physical dmg converted to elemental damaged nerfed… its going to be another short league especially if the monsters in this league is expedition based because expedition monsters are like almost always ignore physical damage reduction and more…
@@BasegFarmer Fair point but then again, no one would craft the items you need. And some of the uniques like Replica Alberons would still be expensive as the kenetic blast str. stacker wasn't hit. Im guessing some of the other melee items would still be sought after as it, most likely, is gonna be a melee league.
1 .crown of eyes still exist use this if you want to have dmg from spells affect attacks... its a unique with a unique effect... and nobody used it because you got it for 1 gem socket elsewere. 2. Also the intent for divine blessing was to give mana stacker a way to get aura. but every eb build got 1 aura for free ( they could have changed it to only spend mana ever but well) 3. Hatred hurts, cold dot was bad now its even worse and the attack builds will dont see a big dmg drop because weapons got better 4. yep transcendance dead now i think they did the phys takes as ele nerf because of endurence charge buff ( i will probably ignore armor and go arctic armor + flesh and stone + endurence charges to not die to physical damage) 5. rage got reworked all Classes lost speed from it but berserker lost even more because he was the rage class...( nobody played the class and it still got worse when they reworked the adcendancy nodes for rage) Fazit: over all all changes they did for the upcoming Leauge with ther Melee rework was buffing hit damage and bleed but removing speed from all adcendancys ( raider- onslaught, deadeye tailwind nerf, berserker berserk+ rage nerf, all melee - 20% more attackspeed totem, galdiator - challanger charges)
@@mbXtreme yeah i can see your point and sure it hurts to lose a 300% increased dmg buff but i guess theese builds will still hit hard and also get some dmg back from quality change. Cold dot got hit harder with hatred rework and that affects a whole skill archetype. maybe there is a rune enchant to give some power back or a new annoint.
This has happened the last decade. If you create your own builds, try to think critically on how you can overcome what was lost. Odds are there are solutions or alternative paths that are just as good or only a slight loss. If you don't create your own builds, wait a few days and someone that did think critically will provide you said solution.
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GGG: we removed left click for instant skills but added new gems to trigger spells and warcries automatically instead
GGG next league: automated warcries dont grant buffs or charges anymore
no need to summon totems for melee buffs, back to manually using warcies for buffs
Herald of Ash no longer gives more spell fire damage, has higher physical as extra fire. Same thing as Hatred basically.
Depends on your build. Hatred was double dipping, so huge nerf for all builds imo. HoA is just a nerf for caster, but for attacker its a huge buff.
Also the removal of Call to Arms. No longer automating the Enduring Cry for its buffs. The new Autoexertion doesn't give any buffs from warcries. So back to using macros or manually spamming a key (nobody thinks that's fun).
Also banners rework is another big nerf to defences of many non-melee characters.
These people really are out of touch.
Rage gives more damage instead of increased, which is way better for pure single hits
In my humble opinion, the last time we had so many nerfs, and harsh ones at it, was 3.15 and people raged. The reason being GGG told us straight up that they nerfed a lot of stuff. 3.25 feels like they nerfed a lot of stuff but just don't tell us straight up....
For me the biggest one has been nerfed over a stretch of multiple leagues. Started with the change of the Keystone "Call to Arms" into a support Gem "Call to Arms" which made it impossible to gain life for automated warcry use (mastery), no it is a new gem which stops giving you buffs from the warcries and makes it impossible to gain charges from the "used" warcries...
This is supposed to be a melee league, "totems are tidious, let's remove them" and make warcries clunky AF and totems 3/4 useless.
unlike 3.15, we also got many buffs...
with some nodes, you easily get 48 rage and with berserker ascendancy its
72% more attack damage,
72% increased attackspeed
and if you want you can get Movement speed and armour from rage via the tree
thats without berserk gem (which would add 28%more attack damage and yareyare). The less damage taken still hurts a lot.
And rage generation is muuuuch better now, when you invest into it, right?
I mean sure in generell its not as versatile as it was but i guess its a "nice to add" thing at least.
This is what happens when everyone spams Rage and Physical Damage Taken As, it gets Nerfed to allow other builds. Nobody should be surprised 😮
sollten mit den recombinator altar nicht supress auch auf int bases möglich sein ? sorry für deutsch schreiben aber mein englisch reicht nicht aus
Wenn es noch gleich wie damals ist ja, und danach? Recombinator sollten nicht die Lösung für ein Defensive Problem mancher Ascendancys sein.
Rip Venom Gyre, was nice to meet you budy 😢
Ive been playing Static Strike Shockwave Slyer Replica Alberons since Crucible and I was planning on going Chieftain with Normal Alberons this league and with 3.25 patch notes Chieftain gets Sione, Suns Roar Node where Warcry Power is Infinite so he doesnt need to use Redblade Banner. I looked at Rathpith Globe and it gives roughly 350% increased Spell Damage which is about a 50% MORE damage increase and with the new Retaliation Skill Divine Retribution (the one that is a spell and thunder rains down) it is possible to use that over Frozen Legion (depending on how Retaliation skills function).
However, the biggest problem with the Battlemage Cry Nerf is being forced to use Crown of Eyes where we would need to find Accuracy Rating and additional Crit Chance elsewhere (due to not using the Elevated Helmet). TWWT (aka Perandus Pact) can mostly solve the Crit Chance but the Accuracy you would have to get on items/Precision Aura or use Split Personality for +5 Str and +40 Accuracy (which isnt too bad but lose out on roughly 200 life per jewel). The new Battlemages Cry still gives a nice chunk of Crit Chance so you would probably want to use it. Enduring Cry and other Crys might be ones to also consider as Endurance Charges are OP.
Once Accuracy and Crit Chance was solved, the damage was actually 40% higher due to Rathpith Globe and Getting Rage.
There is new anoint passive, something like "You have minimum rage of 8." Does it enable permanent Berserk?
if it works like charges, you can't consume minimum values. It would just stop at 8 instead of 0.
As a main witch, I'm feeling violated by this league, I will probably have the hardest time of my life in this game.
I bet the crown of eyes mod will be one you can add with runes or whatever that system is
How does impact the Hatred, HoA and Divine blessing changes in the EK ignite elementalist? Is it still viable?
For this build, Hatred is a nerf, HoAsh is a buff, Blessing is a nerf.
EK ignite after certain level of gear threshold has always been overkill DMG for what it's designed for. Is it viable for T16, yes. Is it going to be smooth for T17, that's where the defense nerf comes in, not the DMG nerf(GGG drastically reduce T17 mobs hp). So your concern shouldn't be the DMG nerf, but how you plan to stay alive and comfy in T17 without capping PTE defenses.
Rage seems stronger to me now for slower builds. For my upcoming bleed gladiator i can get 57 rage, not counting items. With just Rigwalds command, that will be 114 bleed multi.
bleed glad without challanger charges is worth playing? I dont think so...
all will use guardians blessing with self-ressurect mobs from affliction leaguei guess
I wanted to start EK ignite or Bleed bow glad, both are killed so idk what to do now
How bleed bow kiled exactly?
@@dr3v240 ensnaring arrow doesnt count for bleed anymore and gladiator is almost only for melee like mbx explained in the last video.
@@weaze5583lol okay … why you need ensnaring when you agregating ?
@@weaze5583 some say that doing 500mil dmg then getting nerf to 450mil and you hear = dead build i mean … stop …
@@dr3v240 I don't think bleed bow overall is killed, but glad specifically is not very good for it now other than explodes. The aggravated change isn't very good for the build specifically since uptime with ensnaring arrow was already built in and the only other usable point is the scaling damage. Outside of the scaling damage (which takes time to build), the build just lost a lot of more damage from ascendancy points - 20% more from gratuitous, 10% more from blood in the eyes, 10% more from outmatch and outlast.
That being said, I swapped to champ pretty early last league and got the flame/flesh for gratuitous, so that's just a 20% more loss from that. It's still a playable build and will be good enough, but I do think it's worse.
A lot of things are nerfed, i played strength stacker last league, it was soo fun. Sad to see it's gone now. Although, there are a lot of buffs. Bleed bow glad is also gone, SAD i never got to play it :(
For str stacker, you just have to use crown of eyes now. Weaker yes? Dead no.
stackers wil nvr die: literally some of the highest ceiling in the game 😂😂😂
theres always a way
Looking at divine blessing, hatred, and herald of ash nerfs, do you think ek is still worth playing? The new crafts look promising, so damage wise maybe we can still hit dot cap with a little more investment, but losing divine blessing is what I don't think we can recover from... Looking forward to your maxroll update for ek and if it is till viable I will definitely give it a spin mid league
None of these were flying under the radar. The only one that wasn't expected was hatred.
Hatred wasn't unexpected either. It was by far the most powerful aura for years with very good watchers eye mods as well. I am surprised Indigon didn't get capped at 800~ tho.
New video on most impactful buffs for 3.25 as well? 🤗
@mbXtreme first of all I love you man, love your content, but is really funny to me, that usually reddit and everything else is on flammes and you're always positive and this patch that everyone is more or less happy you're kind of "THE NERFS!! THE NERFS!!"
The thing with BMC is that it now completely lost its identity as a gem.
the best defence is offence... so oneshot everyhting will take care
ayrıntıyı fark eden var mı? :D :D 1:06
çoğu kişi farketmemiş, türklerden bu kadar mı az kişi takip ediyor bu adamı ya :D :D
1. crown of eyes still exists
2. I love that divine blessing is gone, so annoying to set up
3. attack mana cost have been nerfed dramatically
Now that's a lot of nerfs ...
11:38 a wild Marty appears in chat
o/
What did they do to my hatred T_T
Chief= Infinity Power for free. :D
1:06 💀 tf his name
Every cold-dot-build: *crys in hatred*
cries*
every non conversion cold build, cries in wardloop
Cold dot losing hatred is massive. I really hate this change, my katabasis caught a stray. However, im gonna make the character speedy now with haste instead of hatred, so its not a complete loss at like a 1/3 mirror range :))
... Or I can just put skitterbots which is lower damage but lower reservation, which is quite nice.
strong words for saying str stacking builds are dead when they could just use crown of eyes instead of the warcry. unless i am missing something massive to why they CANT run that helmet, i know about the influenced rare helmet mods but that doesnt mean its dead. .. only builds i know that relied on the warcry entirely was mana stacking ones with indigon like manaforged arrow builds for delving
how much i hatedmage i can't explain. It was worst shhhh everyone utilizes. it was the worst design to come with. Worse than melee totems. EVERYONE builded it to convert str phys to magic and return to melee with iron node. it was so stupid.
What if divine blessing can be added with the rune system
Lacerate build guide when?
Good changes divine blessing gone ? Good use something els . There is no way to change meta if you want to use same op stuff clap my hands for changes
I realize agorithm has to be fed but my guy. Possible the most positively received league announcements just hit. Let's start with a nerf video
there were so many nerfs though most of the balance was nerfs. Melee sure got 2x damage via gems but lost Totems and totems were a 2x damage buff so i fail to see where melee got buffed not only that but melee is so much slower due to totem removal and rage attack speed removal. I looked at my old flicker builds pre and post nerf they have the same dps only difference is i attack 50% slower making it feel worse as i need to wait for animations to finish now
@@JumpShotHD I'm not saying there weren't nerfs just that got one of the most exciting chunks of news in PoE in quite a while and it's all negativity all the way down. No "this is what I'm excited for" video or "these are the cool new changes coming soon" it's off the rip Debby downer.
@@scottcrocker3265 When I saw they deleted Ancestral Protector I knew Strike Melee was going to feel just... bad along with the removal of Strike Range on the Gems. The GGG video talked mostly about Changes and didn't go over any of the ramifications of losing any of the tools that made strike melee feel good. If the Rage Clusters had the Berserker Node where Rage = Attack Speed (even at half the amount) then it would be good but its not. I would rather hit softer but attack faster as it would improve the game flow and feel of the character.
Tons of cool content to look forward to but the amount of nerfs wasnt even talked about in the GGG stream or just gleamed over.
They pulled a magic trick on most people 😂😂 and ppl are happy about.
Armour is trash when monsters have the mod “overwhelm physical reduction” and alot of monsters have that mod along with a couple more on top of it.. and this is VERY bad for melee builds having the physical dmg converted to elemental damaged nerfed… its going to be another short league especially if the monsters in this league is expedition based because expedition monsters are like almost always ignore physical damage reduction and more…
didnt they move away from 30% overwhelm to getting "crushed" - 15% by monsters
Werent str stackers doing over 100m dps? Im not so sure its dead, youll just be at a more respectable dps.
Prob 30-50 mil range.
Yearh.. but who invests 500+ div for 30mill damage?
@@louisbuss6068 if no one is str stacking anymore why would it be 500 div?
@@BasegFarmer Fair point but then again, no one would craft the items you need. And some of the uniques like Replica Alberons would still be expensive as the kenetic blast str. stacker wasn't hit. Im guessing some of the other melee items would still be sought after as it, most likely, is gonna be a melee league.
1 .crown of eyes still exist use this if you want to have dmg from spells affect attacks... its a unique with a unique effect... and nobody used it because you got it for 1 gem socket elsewere.
2. Also the intent for divine blessing was to give mana stacker a way to get aura. but every eb build got 1 aura for free ( they could have changed it to only spend mana ever but well)
3. Hatred hurts, cold dot was bad now its even worse and the attack builds will dont see a big dmg drop because weapons got better
4. yep transcendance dead now i think they did the phys takes as ele nerf because of endurence charge buff ( i will probably ignore armor and go arctic armor + flesh and stone + endurence charges to not die to physical damage)
5. rage got reworked all Classes lost speed from it but berserker lost even more because he was the rage class...( nobody played the class and it still got worse when they reworked the adcendancy nodes for rage)
Fazit: over all all changes they did for the upcoming Leauge with ther Melee rework was buffing hit damage and bleed but removing speed from all adcendancys ( raider- onslaught, deadeye tailwind nerf, berserker berserk+ rage nerf, all melee - 20% more attackspeed totem, galdiator - challanger charges)
I did mention it and the reason why ppl don't wanna use it.
@@mbXtreme yeah i can see your point and sure it hurts to lose a 300% increased dmg buff but i guess theese builds will still hit hard and also get some dmg back from quality change. Cold dot got hit harder with hatred rework and that affects a whole skill archetype. maybe there is a rune enchant to give some power back or a new annoint.
@@mbXtreme But won't most melee str stackers stay the same or even better with it due to all the dmg buffs to skills.
"We're making the game harder?"
"why?"
"Because we're making the game harder"
okay then.
I am done with POE...Nerfing every build in to the ground to force POE 2 migration of players.
nErFiNg EvErY bUiLd, more like your build it seems like, why not find something different?
Gonna cry?
@@deilaaaa6759 Running your Brain on Auto Mode cam be dangerous. Pls think before posting and maybe try something different.
This has happened the last decade. If you create your own builds, try to think critically on how you can overcome what was lost. Odds are there are solutions or alternative paths that are just as good or only a slight loss.
If you don't create your own builds, wait a few days and someone that did think critically will provide you said solution.
why you guys arguing with him just smile and wave the less of these people the better
such a whiner😀
Mf gone 😢 best shit change... Becouse poe2 not have quantity
Good, fuck that stupid mechanic, nothing but FOMO