WARNING GRAPHIC! How to DISBUD a GOAT
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- Опубликовано: 4 апр 2020
- Many people ask me how to disbud. This video is for them.
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Now I see why you are so happy when they are born without horns.
YES!!
Oh my gosh, right?! Another subscriber said it best, she is so strong to be able to do that. I would never be able to bring myself to do that. But I think too, like she said the alternative is alot worse having injured goats, getting stuck in fencing or worse. I also. I also imagine that a larger sized buck (is that what an adult breeding male goat us called?) would/could be dangerous to people if they still had their horns? Or I guess any goat that still has its horns could be dangerous to people or other animals. Someone commented that their grandparents had a friend who's horse was disemboweled by a horned goat. So unfortunate 🥺
Absolutely necessary to be done for their safety. I think if I had to do it, I'd cry after they were all done. You are definitely a stronger woman than we give you credit for. You deserve a medal for everything you do for your herd!!! You, Crystal, are a miracle worker, a nurse, a doctor, a nanny, a mother, and a playmate for them all. WE LOVE YOU!! This is why you have so many subscribers!
All of my goats are horned and so far no one's been killed or died from them.
@@TheShandalala after our farm hand lost an ear disbudding wasn't even a discussion. It was just one of those things- he bent down and the goat came up. All it took was one accident to start disbudding.
@@oranjmusemeyer968 the goats haven't gotten hurt thank God, but I have. Nothing serious though. Just some bruises and broken skin by accident.
"Absolutely necessary to be done for their safety." - that is a lie. Ancestors never did that. Our shepherds don't do that. It ends with brain trauma.
@@peasantrobot It's done so they don't get stuck in fences, which is for their safety. You have your opinion, and I have mine which goes along with the farmers and breeders as to why they do it.
My friend grew up on a farm in Virginia, and a horned goat disemboweled his favorite horse. He's 85 years old and he still gets misty eyed about it when he tells the story.
Oh my gosh, I don't think I have ever heard of something quite like that. Your poor friend and his poor horse. What an unfortunate accident. 🥺
It might have been a cow with long horns. They were fighting over their positions at the feeder, and the horned animal killed the horse.
If you shave the top of their heads, it makes for less smoke, less smell, and less actual burn time :)
This was harder to watch than I thought it would be. I’m the kind of pet owner that can barely stand to get her pets shots, so I admire someone who can do the hard/painful work necessary for the health/safety of their animals. It makes you a responsible pet-owner.
Back in 2019 I took in a goat with horns and I had my back turned on him he came up behind me and horned me through the back of my arm I almost bled to death .. thank god my neighbor heard me screaming and used his belt to cut my blood supply off and helicopter picked me up and had a four hour surgery it’s serious to get rid of there horns
So sorry that happened to you. Animals seem to know what area will cause the most damage, then they go for it. I hope you have no lasting effects to your arm. God Bless
Sharon Frees thank you very much dear I appreciate it
Oh geez, I'm glad your neighbor was so helpful and knew what to do! We're happy to hear you're okay. What did you do with the goat afterwards?
Just read your story, Carrie!
Holy smoke! Thank God your neighbor was able to help you.
Glad you made a full recovery!
@@OceanSwimmer thank you so much dear
Thank you sooooo much for posting this restraining method! It's not easy finding a partner willing to help. I knocked this method out today by myself and it worked like a charm. Thanks!
Man that was hard to watch. I want to raise goats in a few years. I ve been watching your videos and learning and you were right about this being the worst part of the job. I cried like a baby but seeing him ok afterwards calmed me down a little. You are a rare woman. I am in awe of the way you do everything. God bless you, your family and your business always
Thank you for giving me the confidence that I can do this with my own goats. I thought about leaving them horned because I didn’t think I had the stomach but I grew up on a farm. I can do it
You can do it!! ❤
It’s hard but in the long run you are making sure they stay safe! :) you got this!
I know it's quite a bit later, but checking in here just to ask how everything went? Hope it all went smoothly and that they are safe, happy, and doing well 😊
I didn't grow up on a farm, but I was thinking about moving so I can have some of these goats. I'm pretty sure that I can do this. I've had animals of one kind or another most of my life, and I've done a lot for them for the sake of ultimately what's best. I don't think it'd be much harder than convincing a diabetic cat I had to take his insulin needle. He absolutely hated it. RIP Shredder.
I was going to quit breeding Nigerians because of this until my wonderful husband stepped in and does it for me now. My heart cannot take it!
Thank you for teaching essentials. Larger breeds often do well in the box. Please do a complete cocci, worming, and supplement video also.
OMG, the vocals had my rescue cat trying to get in my phone. Guess she was a good Mama
Troubler2 lol I was wondering why my cat was looking at me concerned.
My cat too
Mine too!!
My farm dog hates to hear a goat cry and comes to the computer to check on them.
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Nice job, Crystal!
Using two different disbudder irons works well. I can tell the 3rd pass with the smaller iron didn't hurt.
Great demonstration!
Crystal, although difficult to watch, the video expels the ‘fear of the unknown’ and shows how quickly these babies bounce right back post procedure. And for me, that was the most important. Even in between burning each bud, he calmed right down, responding to your voice and soothing touch. He wouldn’t have done that were he in excruciating pain. And seeing them all together in their playground, jumping all over you and pushing each other out of the way for mama cuddles, is evidence of their rapid turn-a-round and lack of traumatic memory.
Thank you for the teaching. I have been afraid to dis bud mine in fear of doing it wrong but you explained it wonderfully. Now I have to do it myself.
Disbudding is an interesting. It was harder for me to watch these videos in the past but now I can. It makes sense why you use two disbudding tools. I know it is hard for you to do but the reasons are clear. This was very educational and loved how they all bounced back, literally. It was nice to see them active after all that. You have a heart of steal to have to do this without tears. 🙏🏽❤️ Awesome video!!
THANK YOU, for loving on the goat after you finished. I think that part was sooooooo important, as well as you talking to it/reassuring it. You let it know that everything was ok. Peace and Blessings.
Great video Crystal- explained so well and this is a tough topic to discuss and you did this perfectly!
You did such a great job with the video! I know you hated to do it, but I understand all the reasons for needing it done. You are extremely strong to be able to do that even though it's so unpleasant. Thank you for all you do to make the videos so educational and helpful!
My heart jumped for a while when he screamed so loud but well that's for their own good and it takes a lot of courage to the work so hats of for that .. I love your farm ❤❤
You are a sweet woman. Hearing the reasonable reason for budding is very understandable. I am an animal lover like yourself, but I honestly couldn't do what you do. I wear my heart on my sleeve too much. Love your videos. I've learned alot. Keep smiling and don't let the naysayers get to you. Farm life is what it is.
This was hard to watch, his little screams broke my heart, but I'm glad Iwatched the process. I would like to own goats in the future and I am glad that I saw the process. Thanks for the wonderful video
Same, my parents and I are starting our own homestead so we're trying to learn all we can (the good and the bad) so we can do the best we can for our goats. I think as horrible as it might be (disbudding) it's a 'necessary evil.' I've heard so many horror stories about goats with intact horns. I'm just glad the pain caused by the procedure is temporary. Much better than the alternative. It's a shame because their horns are magnificent and beautiful plus give them added protection as well as a way to regulate their body temperature. If there weren't any risks, I'd leave them.
The goats obviously do not have a lot of nerve endings in their head and horn area anyway. If they had lots of nerves you would not see so much head butting!!!!!
As they say... no brain, no pain. That be boys for you said the mother of 4 of them.
Thanks for this vid Crystal... we're getting ready to disbud soon. Thankfully we have someone to help us who is more experienced but I will have to be involved eventually.
Thanks Crystal❣️🇨🇦. That was a hard video to make but so needed if we have to learn properly how to do it. I have heard of people leaving it on too long and it burning to far. Not good! You showed everything very well! Thank you so much! Awesome job❣️
My son usually watches with me and the Swiss boy is his favorite. So I am just not going to tell him about this lol. As usual, very informative and well explained. Thanks for posting.
Thank you for this video. We had to disbud a couple doelings today as their new owners had requested it. They aren't for show, but for the safety of the goats and their kids. This was our first time. We watched many videos and even watched a couple others firsthand about a month ago. I also ordered another burner as I see the benefit in having that smaller size. Yes, they sound like they're dying, but then they go back to mama and get something to eat and some comfort.
Thankfully they seem to move pass the trauma rather quickly.
Great video! The little yells have me in total goose bumps. I know it has to be for their lively hood. Like I commented before, I had no idea that any of this has to be done. Thanks again for the education!
Thanks for showing this. My cats were going round and round looking for who was crying!
This is a great instructional video. This will be my 2nd year doing this. My least favorite farm chore, but this was a great video and will help with my nerves. Best wishes to you and your farm.
I'm so glad that ad popped up before she started, and good job I would never be able to do that. 👌👏👏
You can tell she loves each and everyone of those babies. Bravo for your compassion toward your animals. Most people have animals for business and they are nothing more than an income, I dont see that from you and your family.
Thanks for showing that! My first billy wasn’t completely disbud & it is causing him issues. So now I do check for the golden ring so the rest of my herd doesn’t have this problem.
Lol he runs back in there and warns the rest of them watch out for the nice lady!
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Thanks for this information!! I'm going to have to disbud ours this year & not looking forward to it, this gives me some peace of mind when the time comes. Its funny because thats how I restrain our cats to trim front claws. They don't mind anymore bc I trim them once a week as they are indoor cats. Our bucks (3) all have been disbudded before I owned them, but their horns still grew in as they matured. I was pretty bummed out! It wasn't a thorough enough job disbudding unfortunetly. I'm glad you showed a better way to do it! We had a Nubian get caught in a fence roll & that was NOT a fun experience! My husband wasn't home (she outweighs me) & had to be flipped onto her side- she fought hard. Finally got the fence cut to where I could pull her head out of the fence roll. I bought her in milk with 1 of her doelings & she's a 3 year old doe so her horns were already established. There's no way to get those off now unfortunately! Her doeling was disbudded & she's a nice girl though. Needless to say after that I DO NOT WANT HORNS on any of my goats.
We’ve had the same thing happen where the horns grew back on both of our males ones a wether ones a buck
Great job! I had two of my goats disbud by someone else and it was not fun to watch. One didn't take. Watching you gave me the confidence to do it in the future.
The first one you did is my favorite I think. He has beautiful markings.
Swiss goats are gorgeous!
That's a wonderful thing you're doing and you sharing what you know with other people that great too 🐐👏👍
I didn't think it was to awful of a thing to watch. The end result will be so much better with no horns.
I think if you didn't get emotional for that baby there's something wrong here! I totally love Crystal, her family, channel, and goats. And I totally agree with her didbudding her goats! But the way you worded your comment to me sounds like you have no sympathy for that little baby goat! If I am wrong I apologise! If your meaning it as in for he facebook community itself I see what you're saying. Because I don't see any thing wrong with it either! It's jus a teaching an educational video!
@@angelahalcomb215 of course I have feelings for the poor baby. I teared up. But I was just stating an observation.
I wonder if that's where the saying "nip it in the bud" comes from? Well, hard to do but at the end of the video...they seemed to love you just the same!
I think that term originated in gardening.
Thank you for sharing this with us. For sure, one of the toughest parts of your job!
I learned something new today. Thank you for showing what disbudding a goat is.
So..I just learned a new thing today! Never knew this🤔Thank you for this video, learned a lot sense i saw the first birth video :) ❤️
I sincerely appreciate you uploading this. I know its hard and it was just hard for me to watch, it's going to be nigh near impossible for me to do but I totally get why it must be done and when I get goats I WILL be disbudding
I've never seen anyone use the small tip in the middle, that looks like it works awesome! I'll def be getting another iron someday. I've got the regular tip for now and we do tip it on its side like you mentioned, but you cant push down with as much pressure as is necessary that way. We have 2 bucks with bad scurs and really hate trimming them. I'm hoping to do a much better job on my new little guy this year.
I agree also. It’s safer in the long run. For me personally I’m very leary on petting a goat with horns than one without. Very educational. Thank you for sharing. 👍👍😊
I'm so glad you disbud your goats. I would love Dwarf Nigerian goats and because I watch your channel I look at every goat I see. I can't imagine keeping goats with intact horns! There are so many ways they can get stuck and kill themselves. Not to mention the dangers those horns pose to everything around them! Thank you for your informational video's. I've learned so much.
Thank you! It's been a lot of years since I've done it and needed the refresher for tomorrow ❤🐐
OMG you're a brave women, thanks for educated me on this video about goat. My grandkids love your video and those goats thanks.
Very hard to watch, but I respect you for being brave to educate people on the PROPER way to do this! Thank-you!
Well that was the first time I’ve seen that done. Thanks for sharing this.
Same for me. :) She is awesome!
That was difficult to watch, that's for sure. But I didn't know how goats were disbudded prior to your video. Thank you for your informative video explaining when, how and why you go through this process with your baby goats. I would definitely have to bring my goats to a vet or somewhere to have it done because I don't think I would be able to do that. Like another subscriber already said, You're definitely a stronger woman than I! You looked like you were going to cry after you did it, I know I would be! I would be crying like a baby! Thank you for sharing ALL aspects of owning and operate a goat farm, the good, the bad and the ugly. Love your channel!
P.S. I also have found another of what is now one of my favorite RUclipsrs through yours 'Weed'em & Reap'. What a great group of people and content! So glad to have found both your channel and theirs! ❤️🥰❤️
You did a very good job. It's just one of those things that have to be done even though it's not the greatest thing to do . Keep up the good work!!! ❤
Thank you for the video on how to disbud. I can't imagine anyone likes doing it, but it is so necessary. Thanks again.
Thanks for making this video!! I've been wondering if this is something I could do on my own. A friend helped me with two last week, but I've got two more this week! Thanks so much for the confidence boost!!
You Got This!
Hi Crystal! Good video as always. As to the disbudding, since you are raising show goats, you have to do what you have to do. When it's all done, drink a beer and have a good cry on Derek's shoulder. Who knows? Maybe one day, you'll have a polled herd ... wouldn't that be something! Take good care of you and yours.
I love that you dont candy coat goat ownership. Its nice to be educated . alot of people dont know all the things , how and why that has to be done. ( i dont own a goat..but love them. ) im always learning something new. Thank you! Ps: i about choked on my coffee when you said you werent sitting on him LOL ( goat Goddess who loves her babies and the mamas..getting emotional about de budding ..gonna sit on a goat baby..lol.) I likeed the way you restrain your babies , one they feel more secure..also you can control them better where the head and ears are, and most importantly..not having a moving targer where you accidenty not. Get the horn bud ( so its done quick and over with..only minimal pain..then you love on them. ( thats why i call you the goat Goddess..you are awesome.i
Hi Crystal! (Love the name, but it's mine too, so I guess Im a bit bias lmao!). Im a new sub, and have loved watching your videos the last few days. This one, won't lie, was hard to watch. But, knowing how to do these things is a part of keeping them safe and secure, as well as everyone else, and just good animal husbandry practice. And you can see how much you care for your animals in all that you do. I appreciate all the work you put into your videos. It's helped me a lot in understanding goats. We don't have any yet, but doing as much cramming with research as I can beforehand. Hoping for this spring/summer. Along with Weed em & Reap, your channel has helped immensely! Feeling more confident every video I watch. Thank you!
Thank you for this, I’ve found this and your CDT shot video so helpful. Do you not need to put a cream or spray on the burned area after?
Understanding the why helps me with the reasoning and the need. Afterwards, with success, I can see that the little ones are OK.
Thanks for sharing with us the reality of what must be done in order to have show goats and safe goats who don’t use their horns to hurt each other.
I watched from behind the couch ... lol . Good job hun xx
Absolutely my most hated chore to do. However we did have a horned goat get the corner of my daughters eye with her horn. She wasn't being mean she was just swatting a fly. For us it is much better in the long run and of course you can't show without it. Very well done video.
Thank you for sharing. It was a hard one to watch, but good knowledge!
You are doing that for their safety and others around them. It's safety. Sometimes you have to do sucky crap but it's what's best. Everyone watching should understand. It's not pleasant for anyone. You stay strong and I know it's done out of love. Lodi "Look what I can do" 4 President 2020!!! I fully plan on writing her in at election time!!! Lol
I'm so glad I found your channel! I bought two goats last year because I wanted them😂😂😂I have horses and my family has cattle so I'm not completely a fish out of water... however I didn't actually know that you have to trim there hooves, so glad I found your videos. What clipper did you use in that video? Also i bought a liquid to dehorn/debud but apparently I panicked and washed it off because she started screaming...so unfortunately she has horns now...and she gets stuck in the fence daily🙄. Is there a way as a yearly to get rid or file the horns so they are safer?
You can band them, I have a vet who puts them to sleep cuts and then burns them,
I couldn't watch this. Crystal is a very strong woman. My heart is to tender toward animals.
This is so incredibly helpful. I can't even tell you. Thank you so much for making this video.
It feels so much better knowing they go back to normal right after. It's almost a relief knowing that. Do you ever give them pain meds preemptively? I have 4 to do and it's making me sick to my stomach thinking about it. I have a guy who's been doing it forever that's going to teach me on his but then I've got to do my own. I'm terrified I'm going to mess it up
Thank you for making such detailed videos! This is the same method my goat vet showed me back around 2011. Only difference is I also put a rolled up towel under the chin and tuck front legs back. Our least favorite chore for sure. I will for sure others to your videos!
Thank you so much for sharing this! It was tough to watch but not nearly as bad as I was afraid of.
You treat your goats so lovely 😄
Thank you so very much for this video this will help so much when it is time.We raise Nigerian dairy goats.
That was information Crystal, thank you! I don’t know if I would be able to do this, I might be screaming too. 🤦🏽♀️
I just learned how to do dehorning thank you for the video
First off, love your videos they are a God send. Second I was trying to find how old they need to be for this but only saw bucklings mentioned, you said within the first week correct? When would you disbud a doeling?
Thank you! It's my least favorite thing to do on the farm! I have always done the figure eight approach on the bucks but very interested in using the pygmy tip in the center...have you done the figure eight approach before? Just curious because one of my bucks I disbudded last year still has scurs and thinking maybe he wouldn't had I done it this way with the pygmy tip. As always thank you! It's not fun but it's just part of what has to be done. 😉
Thank you so much for showing this. I really used to think that it was horrible and a lot more complicated than that. It didn't look at all as bad as I was imagining. I really need to do this with our new kids. Do you know at how old you shouldn't do it?
I done my first one yesterday. I bet you get a lot of hate comments. Thank you for the video. I feel a bit better about my work it appears I did ok. End product looks very close to yours.
Aww...absolutely, 100% necessary, but oh, I sure feel for you Crystal! I HATE disbudding with a passion, but not as much as I hate the danger those horns represent.
Actually, I detest debudding so badly that I finally sold off the last couple of het does in our little herd to a couple of friends who’ve been dying to buy those two lovely girls off me. (😢) Hated to give them up but I’ve been trying hard to weed out the hets, and I’m very fortunate to have an excellent N breeder friend about an hour away who’s been a massive help with me for finding the lines I wanted. (They’ve been breeding their lines for over 50 years now)
Just bought three of her 2019 3rd gen Pp N doelings yesterday & plan to breed them when ready to our mutual friend’s Pp N buck. We decided early on that we didn’t want to keep breeding bucks if possible, but it all worked out in the end as my neighbour likes to have them, and we’ve worked out a system where she usually takes the a potential show buckling or two in exchange for breeding fees. The rest of the buckings that aren’t sold for showing/breeding are kept here as wethers for both company & eventual “wether camp” 😉
Hope everyone’s doing well there. ❤️
Very informative! thank you!
This will be my first time doing this.
I normally have no problem watching this kind of video but this one I was in tears
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I'm wanting to do dairy goats and watched this for informational reasons on one of the things I'll need to do to have goats as I have a horse and donkey. Thank you for showing what to look for to know its done right, golden ring and how to do this as I'm sure it's costly to have someone else come do it for you.
Excellent job! Couldn’t have asked for better
Hey Crystal, great video! I have a question about the tip size. I used the 1/4 inch last year like you and ran into the same problems, is the bigger iron you use now the .55? When I look up the 1/4 (not pygmy tip) it shows the same size that I used last year and it doesn't look like the one you showed in the video.
Ty for video I have a doe to disbud and my first one now I know how to do it right :)
If you have ever had a bad burn you know that it only hurts for a few seconds after that the nerve endings are dead. They protest more about being held down than the burning itself. I hate doing it and thankfully my husband helps me but it definitely needs to be done. We don't show goats but we have a couple that can get an attitude and will bump you with their heads and rub their heads on you. We will never not dehorn our babies.
Exactly! It does hurt at first but quickly the nerves are killed from the heat and the restraint is their main complaint!
Praying for polled babies! You did good job!
Have you done a video on the genetics of breeding polled goats?
Thank you so much for making this video!
thank you for posting this video it's very educational
Great tutorial, thank you!
Thank you so much!! Will use in the near future!!
😍😍😍 oh they are so cute and love you so much!!!
Hi crystal! What about the figure 8 method for bucklings? People swear that doing it is essential for the boys so they don’t get scurs.. I did 2 bucklings w/ no figure 8 that’ll be weathered but I’m now worried they’re gunna get scurs. What’s your take/experience on it?
I don't blame you for not likeing having to do that. It is good that it is done.You have some very cute babies.
Hi Crystal, I have a quick question that I hope you can answer.
With your method of using the 2 sizes of disbudfing irons, do you ever have bucklings grow scurs?
I have bought 3 bucks in my time, all disbudded, all have grown scurs.
I am now wanting to start disbudding my own but want to do a method that has the least likelihood of scurs
I had my boo-boo lip stuck out. Somehow they must have a migraine afterwards. Tylenol migraine to the rescue for me. Baby goat milk to the rescue for them. Thanks for the invite to watch and.learn. Time for you to relax with a nice glass of iced sweet tea with a smile that it's all done. Blessings
He’s gorgeous but he was so calm after like nothing happened ❤️
When we disbud our guys, we always have to use a fly repellent to spray on the area. It's usually silver or purple, which ever we have on hand. We also will give them some sort of supplement so that their bodies don't "over stress." Do ya'll have to use that? Or do you use anything after disbudding?
One of thing I never get from any of the videos - Do you apply pressure or let the weight of the iron do the work? Also, do you know if the Rhinehart buck tip works (so you don't have to burn twice on bucks for that figure 8?). I'm also curious, I tried to count (maybe 8-10 seconds?)... how long do you hold the iron on? I've seen many different counts.
Same!
Hey! About to order the electric dehorners you suggested/linked to amazon. One is currently out of stock but my question is that one amazon link led to the x30 1/4 and the other x30 3/8 but your RUclips description says they are both x30 1/4 (one the Pygmy size). If I want to use the same dehorners you use, is it a 1/4 and 3/8? On a google search I could not find a 1/4 and also 1/4 Pygmy. Any input is greatly appreciated!!