B"H for this shiur! The Rabbi couldn't had said it better, I'm 23 yrs old and know many friends and family members my age(or were my age) that left the Torah for anything else. I don't condole such behavior but surely we(Torah lovers) should do something to prevent this happening more. 75%-80% had said that some Halachot don't make any sense and a few don't even have a source from the Torah but it's just a custom being followed like if it was a Mitzvah. Maybe adding Halachot that don't have a source from the Torah(or are illogical in some cases) shouldn't be treated as Mitzvah. May H" have mercy on us and help us reach our potential towards the Truth. Amen.
On this, agree unreservedly! To not be open to criticism(as warranted) of any commentary, custom etc is to effectively make an idol out of them/it … contrary to the very essence of Judaism
Thank you Rav this is an important video, it seems to accord with this passage: “And now [in these last generations] you will able to understand the strength of your God and the essence of His strength and His wonders, more than the ancients in their great wisdom. The truth is that the first generations are considered always very wise, the middle generations not so wise, and the last generations are considered wiser than the first, for this accords with the nature and formation, of the world [as darkness preceded light]. As with the rotation of the wheel [of a watermill i.e. the vicissitudes of fortune, cf. BT Shabbat 151a], the first ones which ascend are full, the middle ones pour, and the last ones draw, and ascend, in order to pour as well... And now as I said, the gates of wisdom have begun to open, and therefore, one may study and gain great wisdom” (Berit Menuḥa).
Why so many critical videos? The Torah world succeeded greatly since Churban Europe thanks to Rabbis Shraga Feivel and Aharon Kotler זצ"ל. Where's my משנה ברורה? Ayin tova maybe?
It seems to me that the crucial question here is not whether Torah scholars can be in error. This may, or may not be true. But does that mean that every rank and file person, is capable of properly critiquing said scholars - and be comfortable in doing so? By definition, it seems to me that one should always be highly skeptical of the veracity of one's own intellectual stature before pronouncing on the correctness or incorrectness of previous, respected Torah giants. In fact, we know that the overwhelming majority of "thinking, intelligent" people, are frankly not sufficiently schooled in logical analysis, but, on the contrary, are often in error in regard to their conclusions made on complex issues. As far as fellow Jews being "turned off" by the educational system whereby intellectual humility is taught to be the proper attitude for a Torah Jew, well - I certainly would not justify or praise such a young persons going off the derech for transgressing this precept. I don't think we can make the case that only the most intelligent young people among us are the ones who go off the derech. Therefore, one must ask why serious young, budding talmidei chachomim, don't have a problem in conforming with the existing system. Perhaps one should look to other reasons for why some have a problem with the Torah world such that they would consider leaving the Torah community. Perhaps we should look to social or psychological causes?
The 'root of the rot' is not from "shulhan arcuch" as this chap says, but from making gemara "sealed" & hence sacrosanct under descriptive: oral law Transcribed Mosaic Prophecy= written law, that we "hope" its as dictated to Moses to be written, & we hope its what in scrolls, within parameters of very small deviations *UN* transcribed Mosaic Prophecy= oral law, that which the creator told Moses NOT to be written down To describe centuries of recorded (who knows how accurately) discourse, *in its entirety* as "oral law" & hence what was told to Moses by the creator is diabolically stupid. God didn't tell Moses centuries of counter arguments based on ignorance, hence working backward derivative procedures (that in itself is not known, if its those 13 or the other much less number I can't recall)! As soon as history has taken its toll & what was un transcribed mosaic prophecy has been lost/forgotten, then no amount of decision making by whoever human will make it what was told to Moses, not to transcribe. So the story of "bat kol" & the wall collapsing etc is giant lie to cover ones track. Sure, if there are unanimous oral "traditions" that are not lost, say squareness of tephilin, then we have no choice but accept such as what was told to Moses, not to write down , NOT what was discussed in some Babylonian house. So the Root of the Rot is not from Joseph Karo, but from calling contractions "eylu v eylu"
Thank you for your explanation.
R' David Bar-Hayim is amazing! Again he explained so well all the things I couldn't verbalize myself.
I agree with you rabbi 100 percent
I love this Rabbi. Fantastic speaker!!
Your my favorite of all tge rabbis
B"H for this shiur! The Rabbi couldn't had said it better, I'm 23 yrs old and know many friends and family members my age(or were my age) that left the Torah for anything else. I don't condole such behavior but surely we(Torah lovers) should do something to prevent this happening more. 75%-80% had said that some Halachot don't make any sense and a few don't even have a source from the Torah but it's just a custom being followed like if it was a Mitzvah. Maybe adding Halachot that don't have a source from the Torah(or are illogical in some cases) shouldn't be treated as Mitzvah. May H" have mercy on us and help us reach our potential towards the Truth. Amen.
On this, agree unreservedly!
To not be open to criticism(as warranted) of any commentary, custom etc is to effectively make an idol out of them/it … contrary to the very essence of Judaism
GD Bless you Rav. I owe you my life.
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Thank you Rav this is an important video, it seems to accord with this passage:
“And now [in these last generations] you will able to understand the strength of your God and the essence of His strength and His wonders, more than the ancients in their great wisdom. The truth is that the first generations are considered always very wise, the middle generations not so wise, and the last generations are considered wiser than the first, for this accords with the nature and formation, of the world [as darkness preceded light]. As with the rotation of the wheel [of a watermill i.e. the vicissitudes of fortune, cf. BT Shabbat 151a], the first ones which ascend are full, the middle ones pour, and the last ones draw, and ascend, in order to pour as well... And now as I said, the gates of wisdom have begun to open, and therefore, one may study and gain great wisdom” (Berit Menuḥa).
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@@davidproto6127 Hey David, I hope you are fairing well during this scourge my old friend!
@@jeangophile yeah i think its become a theatre of the absurd. overall im fine. howa about you?
Why so many critical videos? The Torah world succeeded greatly since Churban Europe thanks to Rabbis Shraga Feivel and Aharon Kotler זצ"ל. Where's my משנה ברורה? Ayin tova maybe?
What is the Rav's position on the banning of Rabbi Natan Slifkin's books? Great video. Thank you.
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It seems to me that the crucial question here is not whether Torah scholars can be in error. This may, or may not be true. But does that mean that every rank and file person, is capable of properly critiquing said scholars - and be comfortable in doing so? By definition, it seems to me that one should always be highly skeptical of the veracity of one's own intellectual stature before pronouncing on the correctness or incorrectness of previous, respected Torah giants. In fact, we know that the overwhelming majority of "thinking, intelligent" people, are frankly not sufficiently schooled in logical analysis, but, on the contrary, are often in error in regard to their conclusions made on complex issues. As far as fellow Jews being "turned off" by the educational system whereby intellectual humility is taught to be the proper attitude for a Torah Jew, well - I certainly would not justify or praise such a young persons going off the derech for transgressing this precept. I don't think we can make the case that only the most intelligent young people among us are the ones who go off the derech. Therefore, one must ask why serious young, budding talmidei chachomim, don't have a problem in conforming with the existing system. Perhaps one should look to other reasons for why some have a problem with the Torah world such that they would consider leaving the Torah community. Perhaps we should look to social or psychological causes?
I agree with the rabbi, the only real truth is the torah itself, all else is commentary. Only is g-d without error.
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The 'root of the rot' is not from "shulhan arcuch" as this chap says, but from making gemara "sealed" & hence sacrosanct under descriptive: oral law
Transcribed Mosaic Prophecy= written law, that we "hope" its as dictated to Moses to be written, & we hope its what in scrolls, within parameters of very small deviations
*UN* transcribed Mosaic Prophecy= oral law, that which the creator told Moses NOT to be written down
To describe centuries of recorded (who knows how accurately) discourse, *in its entirety* as "oral law" & hence what was told to Moses by the creator is diabolically stupid.
God didn't tell Moses centuries of counter arguments based on ignorance, hence working backward derivative procedures (that in itself is not known, if its those 13 or the other much less number I can't recall)! As soon as history has taken its toll & what was un transcribed mosaic prophecy has been lost/forgotten, then no amount of decision making by whoever human will make it what was told to Moses, not to transcribe. So the story of "bat kol" & the wall collapsing etc is giant lie to cover ones track.
Sure, if there are unanimous oral "traditions" that are not lost, say squareness of tephilin, then we have no choice but accept such as what was told to Moses, not to write down , NOT what was discussed in some Babylonian house.
So the Root of the Rot is not from Joseph Karo, but from calling contractions "eylu v eylu"