David Samson on the Dodgers Bungling Shohei Ohtani’s 1st Home Run Ball Trade | The Rich Eisen Show
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- Опубликовано: 4 апр 2024
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The thing that irked me was that they separated her from her husband, which is wrong, and that they wouldn't authenticate the ball if she didn't comply. That's like a gangster shakedown. It's her ball. She should be able to sell it, it could change her life for her family. The dodgers wouldnt have a multi billion dollar franchise and be able to pay players tens of millions of dollars, if they didn't have fans like her and us to spend our hard earned money to watch them play a kids game. Have some perspective dodgers. And the timing of this couldn't be worse.
No one is stopping her from selling the ball. If she thought the deal was unfair, she should have kept the ball until the Dodgers met her demands. She was actually satisfied with what she received in the beginning, until people on social media told her how stupid she was and how much the ball could be worth. Granted, the Dodgers staff could have been more gracious, but she was just a bad negotiator. She doesn't need her husband to be there. She's not a child. You can't talk about gender equality and expect a man to save the day.
@@user-ll9qk2el4dGood luck trying to sell a ball that isn’t authenticated. Without the official authentication you will not sell that ball for much at auction. No one will spend a significant amount of money on something at auction without legit authentication from the team or player themselves
@@user-ll9qk2el4d Right. And I saw her quoted as saying she really wanted Ohtani to have the ball anyway. So it was more a matter of her feeling mistreated by the security guys, and there may be truth to that.
@@user-ll9qk2el4dthey said she wouldn’t be able to sell it because they wouldn’t authenticate it
@@user-ll9qk2el4d it's worthless without it being authenticated ... otherwise, she can just sell the fake ball and keep the real one for herself ... nobody would ever know.
The girl was isolated, intimidated, lied to, and coerced.
Disgusting behavior by Dodgers staff.
Translator added context incorrectly. Shohei only said, “the fan was spoken to and the ball would be received”.
Exactly.
I just listened to the interview being referred to by this host. I don’t blame you Mr. Samson for commenting on that, but Ohtani never said that. You are right, the translator mistranslated his comment and misrepresented what he said. What Ohtani actually said was, “They (Dodgers officials) told me they would be able to go back there and talk to the fan and negotiate an exchange, and for me, of course it would be a special memento for the occasion so I was grateful to hear that.”
That’s what he really said. And yes, I speak Japanese 100%. Hope this put you at ease there.
And yeah, the Dodgers did botch that. Way to treat a dedicated fan.
I'm glad you cleared the air. I'm 100% Japanese but since I didnd't see the
interview I can't really comment other than what I can surmise.
Japanese is not an easy language to translate as we omit subjects as well as objects in conversations all the time. We assume the listeners know what subjects or objects we are talking about.
I know for English speakers it drive them mad as it leaves important info missing
in translations.
He needs to start learning english! Enoughg!
@@MrMytube60no y’all need stop putting words into his mouth and analyzing every who what when where he talks abt. He’s an athlete not a political figure. No wonder trump and Biden running this country 🤦♀️ and for the record he speaks English just translates so that he can freely share in public without being limited by words and phrases.
Thanks for that clarification based on what I guess is your fluency in Japanese. It could be that the Dodgers security guys were insensitive and strong-armed the woman in certain ways, assuming that her personal account is accurate. But for Samson to make such a massive scandal out of this is more BS, in my view--not the first time I've heard Samson exaggerate a situation with Ohtani. The goodies she received were not insignificant, as Samson says dismissively. Put a lid on the extremist reactions, Davey.
They told the girl they wouldn't authenticate the ball if she didn't accept the deal!
Which is pretty much making the ball worthless so she was Forced to do it🤬
I'm a dodger fan and I was livid when I heard that they would be so dirty to do something like that!
This show starts hating Ohtani? Then I’ll stop watching. Hating Dodgers and hating players is a different thing.
They are full-time Ohtani haters now. It’s absolutely ridiculous
I agree, but I told my friend after Shohei signed that contract they'll be haters and trolls coming out, including the media knocking him just for the ratings.
They’ll hate him more when he slumps to oblivion.
He's not playing for free
Screw Ohtani and the Dodgers.
It was the interpreter Ireton’s error. It is common to omit the subject in Japanese when the context allows it. What Ohtani said was “I was told that (someone) spoke to the fan”. Ireton should have done better because if Ohtani had met her, he would have been there to interpret.
How is Sampson acting this stupid? lol Every Japanese person listening to Ohtani’s actual words says that he never claimed to have “met” the woman.
It’s not ambiguous whether he lied lol His actual words are literally recorded for all to hear
I agree, Ohtani should sue all these media's of telling lies, including that espn Iady who did the interview has no credibility as a jounalist should be sued to try and ruin Shohei by printing two misinformation statements given by Ippei whose a known liar without checking the facts. And now the dimwit trolls telling bunch of lies and blaming Shohei of this home run ball. Even saw haters coming on blaming Shohei for gifting a car to a teammate. The trolls will knock him for anything, but they only end up looking like haters and fools.
Again, the mistranslation is the least of the turds in this $hit pie. The Dodgers coercing her to get Ohtani’s bally is the main dump.
Big Dodgers fan but what they did here was brutal. They separated her from her husband then pressured her by saying they wouldn’t authenticate it and then lied by saying it would be worthless. Used car salesman tactics.
As a dodgers fan it frustrated me how the organization handled it.
Fire the PR team of the Dodgers....handled UNWELL....
Ohtani said 戻ってファンの人と話していただけるということだったので. meaning "I can talk to the fan and will receive the ball". They translated incorrectly, he never said he met the fan.
No here's another example of mistranslations. Ohtani said " I was under the
impression that "someone" that was omitted from Ohtani's speech, (again
Japanese idiosyncrasy of not specifying subject) can talk to the fan after
returning....(of what or where he trailed off and didn't specify)....." (to do what ?
we don't know).
Translator / Interpreter will have to figure what speaker (Ohtani) means to fill
in the dottttttt.
I translated professionally for 30 years in Bay area CA.
In this instance this new interpreter should have prodded Ohtani to be specific.
I think he's not as comfortable in his position of designated translator position
he gets nervous and freeze so only translate obvious (yet leave out important
info like subject or object) .
I still think it's quite mean spirited of this guy to connect this incident to Ohtani
being a liar. It's all in the tone of how it's delivered.
The new interpreter needs to be fired.
No. Ohtani did not mean that "I can talk to the fan".. What he meant was that "I have heard that they [Dodgers] have someone to go back and talk to the fan..."... Either way, Ohtani AND HIS NEW INTERPRETER both never said that Ohtani met or Ohtani was going to see then fan"
Interpreter never incorrectly translated Ohtani's words.
The one that put Ohtani's words incorrectly "met the fan" on the video CC was the Dodgers staff.
Again! Ohtani was mistranslated😢 Are we getting sick of this? Let’s just talk about games！And mean time, try finding descent translator, or Ohtani will stop talking again.
I agree, Ohtani should sue all these media's of telling lies about him, including that espn Iady who did the interview has no credibility as a jounalist should be sued to try and ruin Shohei by printing two misinformation statements given by Ippei whose a known liar without checking the facts. And now the dimwit trolls telling bunch of lies and blaming Shohei of this home run ball. Even saw haters coming on blaming Shohei for gifting a car to a teammate. The trolls will knock him for anything, but only end up looking like haters and fools.
Ok, here I am a Japanese person talking. At the interview, he never said “I talked to the fan.” I directly quote what he said here. He said, “ Talked to the fan.” Do you see there’s no “I” in his sentence. We, Japanese omit a subject very often. Like when I ask my kids if they ate snacks, I would ask them, “Ate snacks?” Instead of saying, “Did you eat snacks?” Similar thing happened with Ohtani. He wasn’t sure who talked to the fan who caught so he couldn’t identify the subject in his sentence so he said “Talked to the fan.” Then the interpreters said , “I talked to the fan.” Which is a mistake but I kinda understand that the interpreter thought that Ohtani said “I talked” because the way Ohtani said it was kinda very smooth and and it was very difficult to identify who talked to the fan. Then I think that if it were Ippei, maybe he would have translated it better because Ippei would have known every single move that Ohtani makes. I mean Ippei would have known that Ohtani didn’t talk to the fan that day. Ohtani didn’t know who talked to the fan. Was it someone from the management, the security guy, or any special person to handle the home run ball ? Also, it sometimes impolite to use “someone” when referring to literally someone😅
So, explaining who someone might be in a polite way is kind of long when he doesn’t even know who it was, and the interview is usually very short, it was best for him to omit the subject in his sentence what happened that’s night. Here is what I think he really meant. “Someone from the team, I’m not sure who that person is, talked to the fan. Since it’s a special ball for me, I appreciate the fact that the ball was given to me.” One more thing. I think Ippei would have said “ i heard that someone from the team talked to the fan and he/she kindly gave me the ball.” This is what Ohtani really meant! Hopefully, the traumatized dodgers management ( from Ippes’s gamble thing) comes up and clarify what Ohtani meant. Better late than never’
In interview, Shohei Ohtani didn't mentioned he talked with the fan, but the interpreter translated "I talked wih the fan".
Time for a new, better translator, and to tell the sports media not to take for granted that the translations are accurate.
What is your agenda dude? Stop hating!!
Sam Blum (Angels beat “reporter”) lied about Ohtani in his article in The Athletic. After being called out, he edited and re-edited his article without publicly acknowledging his mistakes.
Shohei never said he met her, it was the Dodger organization who said that, get your facts straight, we know these shows and media knock Shohei for the ratings.
Point still stands, pathetic by the Dodgers to say they met
Fire Shohei's interpreter and just let ChatGPT to do the job. So no more crazy mistake like this and ChatGPT never gambles.
These people can’t make their facts straight, i mean seriously? Shohei never said he met them on the interview. I had enough of these bs media thingyyy lol
I’ve been on the fence about Ohtanis translator drama and waiting for the investigation but now that I see how crazy media and sports fans are towards him makes me think he has nothing to do with gambling. Ppl saying he’s suddenly stealing from fans and lies about it? Like are we all 5 y/o? After 6 years in the league he just happens to have a new habit of lying about everything?? Y’all are crazyyyy. No wonder our country is lead by trump and Biden🙄👏
Samson told ballboys to not give away $7 baseballs? What a douche
I agree.... this dude is full of himself
This "dude" has accomplished things in life that you can't even dream of 🤣. Internet people and their stupidity.@Mario-Loco683
He's Jeffrey Loria's step-son. So the penny-pinching cheapskate schtick tracks.
That doesn't surprise me. But now he wants to seem superior and so empathetic toward the average fan. He seems to be especially interested in anything that seems detrimental toward Ohtani these days. The more I see and hear from him, the more obnoxious he seems.
@@wxr7118 settle down tough guy - I wasn't talking to you lol
Mr. David Samson, if you believe that Ohtani said he met the fan, then you are unprofessional and click baiting. Enough Japanese native speakers have come out about this topic. Do your job for god's sake.
The Dodgers handled this situation in a completely douchy way. David Sampson described how to handle the situation in a douchy way that doesn’t look as douchy. Reprimanding ball boys for giving fans baseballs?! Really? No wonder the Marlins have no fan base.
I’m Japanese and I can tell you that Shohei did NOT say that he met the people who caught the ball. The interpret absolutely MISinterpreted what Shohei said, which was that “the club talked to the people and was able to get the ball back”. I don’t know who this guy is but it’s easy to get the facts straight, but to neglect it and accuse Shohei of lying about it is lazy journalism. The new interpreter is not nearly as good as Ippei to be honest.
Where is Rich ? I watch this show because of Rich. He wouldn’t have aired misinformation about what Sho said. We need Rich back! The interview was recorded you can just check it again! Sho didn’t say “I met” period.
Very unprofessional. You blame Dodgers for not handling the situation well, yet you are also not doing your job before you go public and spreading false claims. Check the fact!
That Samson guy is slimy
I thought the ball belongs to the team even though it was caught by someone but it’s still the team’s ball
David Samson is a Ohtani hater. Ohtani never said he met the fan.
He needs to sell his book
There's a lot of media piling on this issue, and I don't think it's fair. First off, it's not his first HR as a major leaguer. Certainly not his last. It doesn't mark some kind of milestone number or record. Other than the fact it's with the Dodgers, what's the big deal? Just because some guy says it's worth something doesn't mean it will ever get that price in the open market.
Also, apparently, Shohei didn't say he personally met the fan. That's a translation issue that has been misrepresented.
The other issue is that we are taking the fan's word as truth. Why are we so quick to take their word for it?
Also, was the woman separated from her husband, like she had no choice, or was she asked to follow them into the stadium and the husband just didn't come? That's not clear.
And a bad bargain is a bad bargain. In the heat of the moment, people don't think ahead and just agree to what is being offered. That's not a mark on the Dodgers, although they probably took advantage of the situation. That's still bad on her. She's an adult and should be able to make her own decisions. She's not some 12 year old minor.
Finally, the Dodgers saying that they wouldn't authenticate the ball makes sense. How do you authenticate the ball? Do you have Shohei sign it (that would change the value then)? Does some Dodger official of ball authentication do something to the ball? I doubt they have some machine that puts an official serial number on the thing. And what if the woman is not trustworthy and sells a counterfeit ball that has a fake authentication mark? Then what? Do you know how many counterfeit balls might be out there? I don't think the Dodgers or most organizations have a ball authentication arm....or they don't want to get into that business, otherwise, they'll get requests left and right about authenticating this HR ball, and that HR ball, etc.
Geez, things happen. It's not always a mortal sin.
If it isn't a big deal why does Shohei need the ball? No one else gets their 1st ball on their 2nd team lol. And his foul balls, signed, are going for 15k in the team store. The lady got 5k worth of crap after they intimidated her and separated her from her husband. Oh yeah, and they didn't authenticate ANY of it so it isn't actually worth ANYTHING. Great job, LA!
She was interviewed by a Dodger youtube channel where she explains how she was separated form her husband. MLB has a 20yr old authentication program and stickers, although balls that go into the stands are not supposed to be authenticated because they have left the sight of the authenticator
@@173jaSon371 Shohei never said he “needed” the ball. He never even said he “wanted” the ball. I’m sure life would go on if he never got the ball. It was the Dodger organization that went through the steps of trying to get the ball back, so let’s not put it one Shohei. You are also conflating the true value of the ball from its value to Shohei if he even wanted the ball. You may value your first car more than I do or anyone else, and FMV will be decided by the market if your first car was up for sale. Then again, you may not care about your first car….I don’t know, so let’s not presume it means any much more to Shohei or to the general public.
Let’s be honest. If you wanted something important to you, would you start your offer to the seller with the highest possible price? Is that how you negotiate things?
So what would you expect the Dodgers to do?
Something tells me that it wouldn’t bother you if your wife was separated from you and then coerced at some function.
You guys better have good lawyer trying to defame Ohtani in every single possible moment, the fact that you guys don't even bother to actually fact check the translation yourself show your credibility.
Yes, Dodgers should have handled it better, but also the media are no better. You guys could easily check whether Shohei really said he met with a fan or not. By the way, Shohei didn’t say he met with said fan. Do better!
I agree. It shows how complicated things are when the “game of telephone” is played between the player, interpreter, & a bunch of people involved in the PR team.
Classic Shohei fanboy/girl response lol. Do you guys think Shohei is the dumbest human alive or something? Is he just blissfully 100% unaware of anything going on around him at any given moment? It would have been pretty easy for Ohtani to do a bit more, or to reach out to them after the fact and make things better with the fan, which I highly doubt happens because Ohtani isn't that concerned about it.
And who the hell gets their first HR ball on their SECOND team? Incredibly lame lmao
Again, the mistranslation is the least of the turds in this $hit pie. The Dodgers coercing her to get Ohtani’s bally is the main dump.
Wth is going on ? Who is Ohtani PR ? Fire the person or if not .. hire someone … Omg
I was not expecting a "I read the book" flex when I clicked on this video.
This is called greed people …. Greed
This was a fu*kin awesome video. I wish there was a part two. Great job guys
Dodgers WTF man.....
1. Give them a photo with Shohei.
2. Give them season tickets.
3. Have the lady throw out the first ball for a game.
4. 10 thousand dollar gift card from the dodger store.
Shohei should gift her a new porche.
You have to remember it was security who had her to the side, not dodger front office people... Plus her husband is also to blame for not forcing his way to her
I really looks like I'm going to have to uproot my family and move all the way to LA so that Shohei gets a proper interpreter.
I mean, I don't mind as long as he doesn't expect me to play catch. I absolutely sucked at baseball...
I love David.
NO BULLSHIT.
Truth.
That’s it.
He said it himself in this video.
Isn’t it just easier to tell the truth?
But Moneyball was about how he had to construct a team with virtually no money. Of course the book goes into more detail
This is the dude that eliminated the Montreal Expos!
It could be that the Dodgers security guys were insensitive and strong-armed the woman in certain ways, assuming that her personal account is accurate. But for Samson to make such a massive scandal out of this is more BS, in my view--not the first time I've heard Samson exaggerate a situation with Ohtani. The goodies she received were not insignificant, as Samson says dismissively. Put a lid on the extremist reactions, Davey.
Samson bashed Bauer immediately with no evidence. Being careful here with ohtani. Interesting, id like to like this guy but there is something off here
Id be like "sorry I want to be set for life thanks"
really makes me angry tbh
$100,000 is a far cry to set urself up for life,, unfortunately
Samson's ring looks a little too big for his hand.
If i had caught that ball i would have demanded in return a Signed Jersey from Ohtani, Manny Mota (I'm a big fan), and a four box seat tickets for at least two seasons. They could afford it.
Unsigned MLB baseball is $25
I want to reply to this comment I received (which i posted below, but now seems like it has been deleted?):
Bro, translators have a hard job. Ohtani obviously is choosing wisely on what he saids, which makes him pause midway into his sentences, and not clear on details.
He used the word "itadakeru", which is past tense, which means "someone else will meet" or it can also mean "willing to meet to him (ohtani)" depending on who he is talking about, which he didn't mention who.
Since we know that the fan didn't meet him from her interview, we now know that it was someone else who met her.
But if we didn't, it can be interpreted as "I was happy that she was willing to meet me".
In this situation, Will Ireton had to know before hand that someone told Shohei that someone is going to talk with the fan, to interpret correctly.
yngnation
If you had to listen over & over again to understand that Will Ireton didn’t properly translate what Ohtani actually said, that means you don’t comprehend Japanese well enough to imply that you do. MLB needs to hire better qualified Japanese translators, instead of hiring people that only have a rudimentary, conservational knowledge of Japanese (Will & Ippei included).
The Dodgers have been around since 1883 in Brooklyn. You'd think they would have figured this out by now. o
Its very fitting that Ohtani went to the Dodgers and instantly becomes unlikeable. Not even 1 month into the season, and Ohtani is already caught in 2 big lies. The only player not corrupted by that organization is Mookie.
If she auctioned it off in Japan, that would have got a lot of money. At minimum, I thought they should have given her and her husband season tickets with a parking pass for the rest of the year. Maybe two years?! Maybe passes to that buffet thrown in whenever they show up?!
Shohei didn’t put a subject implementing himself or someone else who talked to the fan. Monolingual greaseballs will talk loosely just like their mother’s ..😂
What a sociopath. Get Sampson off this program permanently.
How dumb are these media and trolls that come on accussing Shohei of gambling. Forget the haters but the media accusing him do it for the ratings. I knew right away Shohei was innocent, there is no way he would be wiring money from his own bank account to a illegal sports bookie.
That the Dodgers did this requires the Adams Family movie "Dirty Pool" gif. Also David should be the full time pinch hitter for Rich when he's away. The giving the ball thing to a fan thing bugged me a little though. You're building a relationship with that fan & that $7 will have them buying more tickets & merch and the organization will more than make up for that $7.
As a Dodgers fan for over 40 years, I'm sad to see the Dodgers screw up (again). Seems like it should be common knowledge, but they should've treated this fan much better than they did. Yeah, I know they wanted that ball for Ohtani and didn't want to spend an arm and a leg to get it back. But treated her only slightly better than they would treat a shoplifter. Bad look.
And they need to emphasize to Ohtani that he needs to be on his best behavior because of all the scrutiny he's getting after the situation with his prior interpreter. No need to lie or imply untrue things.
They need to get some people with better PR skills on their staff.
I agree that the team should have treated the fan better. However, Ohtani never said "I met the fan". He said "まー戻って、あのー、ファンの人と話して、はい、あの、いただけるということだったので". I'm a teacher of Japanese for the Japanese, and my understanding was "after Ohtani came back to dressing room, he was told from a team staff that the fan agreed to gave the ball to him". He didn't lie or imply untrue things. He just omitted the subject and it happens all the time in Japanese. Japanese is highly dependent on context and situation. The interpreter speaks great Japanese, but not perfect... He should have clarified before to translate, but it's all too late...
When all else fails, tell the truth
In our society, the only thing that will get you in trouble, is telling the truth when you're expected to lie.......just sayin
A wealth fund takes over a team and we're shocked they don't know to talk to a normal person.
Angels also won the WS the moneyball year so it really wasn't that successful
these people dont get their facts right. This just tells me to filter out these kind of shows if in terms of shohei ohtani. never watching this show again.
Lost in translation dude
When is "Johnny Carson" coming back from his hiatus?
Get this dude on the show more often.
It’s okay to be entertained but don’t be tricked 💯
Bulls why would you want money for a home run ball bull
Thank You Guys .... Nobody's been talking about the GAMBLING issue these last couple days online. WE WILL NOT FORGET Pete Rose !!!
Absolutely
How dumb are these media and trolls that come on without facts making assumptions accussing Shohei of gambling. Forget the haters but the media accusing him do it for the ratings. I knew right away Shohei was innocent, there is no way he would be wiring money from his own bank account to a illegal sports bookie.
@@trevorcarey3997 It doesn’t make sense to me that Shohei would have debts to the bookies in the first place 😆
@@jeny701005 I knew right away Shohei was innocent and immediately after I watched his press conferance. First of all there is no way he would be wiring money from his own bank account to a illegal sportsbook. Second in his statement he said I never bet on sports and I had no knowledge and was robbed. If he is lying then he would not be totally denying everything, because the truth will come out soon and he knows if he totally deny then it will be his lagacy and career over and tarnished. Even Pete Rose in 1989 deny but partially admitted he bet on sports (later he said he bet on baseball) And players who used steriods deny but partially admitted by saying the trainer injected without their knowledge or say did'nt know it was steriods. In this case a guilty person will not totally deny unless he is totally innocent like Shohei, and the hater's that knocked and accused him will look like fools.
@@jeny701005 I knew right away Shohei was innocent after I watched his press conferance. First of all there is no way he would be wiring money from his own bank account to a illegal sports bookie. Second in his statement he said I never bet on sports and I had no knowledge and was robbed. If he is lying then he would not be totally denying everything, because the truth will come out soon and he knows if he totally denies then it will be his lagacy and career over and tarnished. Even Pete Rose in 1989 deny but partially admitted he bet on sports (later he said he bet on baseball) And players who used steriods deny but partially admitted by saying the trainer injected without their knowledge or say did'nt know it was steriods. In this case a guilty person will not totally deny unless he is totally innocent like Shohei, and the hater's that knocked and accused him will look like fools.
Not a big fan of this dude. Even when they're agreeing, he's still oddly argumentative. Please consider a different guest from Samson in future episodes when Rich is off.
I disagree. I think he did well. Sure he has his own style but he brings insight where most cannot
@@jlien25 agree with you 100% that he brings his own insight, I'm just not a fan of his dynamic with the others on set. The one big plus though is that they're talking more baseball than usual, so I'm happy about that haha. He's done the job, but it think it's a stark contrast from Rich to the point where it may turn off a lot of regular listeners
The issue is there's not a lot of sane independent baseball commentators that are able to fill in and networked hosts are difficult to organise.
Even Amendorala is slowly morphing into baseballs Alex Jones.
COOK EM TJ
He has no issue with doing what presidents do all the time. Just tells the public lol he's wild
Seperated her from her husband?, whats that all about?
Someone in the Dodgers' front office watched way too much Law & Order
Intimidation tactic so no one can stick up for her. It was a shakedown and they strong-armed her into forking it over for peanuts. A signed Ohtani foul ball is worth 3x all of the stuff she received combined. Pathetic. Guess he couldn't afford to take it out of his "2 mil" salary and 60mil a year in endorsement money. Maybe he loaned Ippei too much.
They do not understand how difficult and challenging it is to interpret/translate between different languages, especially between two languages as distinct from each other as English and Japanese. Simply put, it is impossible to achieve 100% accuracy in translation, even for professional interpreters hired by diplomats for the most important international negotiations. Why? Because each language has its unique grammar system, vocabulary, etc. Cultural differences also play a role.
My mother tongue is Japanese, and I listened to the interview with Shohei. He said something like, "came back. Well, talked with the fan. Heard that can have it (まぁ戻って。あのー、ファンの人と話して。頂けるっていうことだったので。)" in Japanese. He did not specify the subjects for each verb. This might sound strange to people who only speak English, but it's actually quite normal in Japanese. We often omit subjects when we speak, which makes interpretation very challenging. Therefore, Shohei's sentence could be interpreted as "I came back, and after that, I talked with the fan. And she said she could give it to me." Alternatively, it could mean "I came back. Well, then somebody (like team staff) talked with the fan, and I heard that the fan agreed to give it back to me." Neither interpretation is incorrect, and the interpreter obviously chose the former.
As a Japanese attorney who sometimes deals with international cases, I often find myself in meetings where my client speaks only Japanese, the other party speaks only English, and an interpreter facilitates communication between them. When complete accuracy is necessary, I ask my client to (i) articulate "subjects" (such as I, we, they, he, etc.) and "objects" to avoid misunderstandings, (ii) keep sentences short, and (iii) form each sentence as a complete thought. I also advise my interpreter not to add subjects unnecessarily, to prevent any "lost in translation" issues. Therefore, the interpreter must often ask "Who did that?" to confirm the subject whenever my client omits it. This process is exhausting and time-consuming. Consequently, I believe this approach is impractical for the daily interviews Shohei typically participates in.
In conclusion, Shohei did not explicitly state that "he" talked with the fan. It was an interpretation. Furthermore, this interpretation wasn't "wrong." It was one of several correct interpretations that did not necessarily reflect Shohei's intent. I think it was, in a way, inevitable miscommunication unless the interpreter asks Shohei what was the subject (and many other components that Japanese people often omit but you need to insert when you make sentences in English) every time he omits it. And actually Shohei omits subjects quite often, it should be very challenging for the interpreter.
And so the mess continues in L.A. 🤮
So does the hate from people that live in loser states like yours
Just waiting to find out ohtani lost the ball on a bet
NPDS 🗣️
Shohei Ohtani Cleared , where the video now? or it just show that you dont have credibility....
This dude hates Ohtani
Just another ball 🙄
The Dodgers are another sleazeball team
David Samson is the best! Love the quip about keeping foul balls. 😂
Okay Samson I have to give you credit you've done well on eisen
Starting to not be a fan of ohtani
Seems David is a hater. Desperately phishing and his talk is pretty petty
Why does Ohtani want that ball so bad? Doesn't he have enough? Terrible story.
I don't think he's that adamant about keeping it. I have a feeling the Dodgers want it for their historical display collection.
Suspend him
Can we be done with David Samson? Geez he sucks.
She got enough stuff…signed ohtani stuff is worth lots of money, but her not meeting shohei is not nice on ohtani and dodgers’ part.
Mlb is always greedy. I hate mlb. Nevertrustmlb
I like having this guy on. Lol
David Samson is a star. He gives very unique perspective being a former GM
David is samson is a national treasure 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
This is kind of foolish. The players don't matter the fans matter. This is why I don't watch the show unless Rich Eisen is there. All the best you guys. He's a young player and it's his first game for new team so what
I’m Japanese, watched the post game interview, and the words that Shohei said was "I spoke and met with the fan." Maybe he misspoke, maybe he intentionally lied, but the interpreter did not make a mistake.
Ok, listening to the interview over and over, it seems like he said "it was great to hear someone would to talk with the fan", so I was wrong. Sorry, my bad.
@@barryzubrow7149 No, you’re not wrong.
@@miahasegawa1204 it’s difficult to understand because Shohei didn’t clearly explain what happened. He said "itadakeru" in Japanese, so it means someone, not him, would meet the fan.
Again, the mistranslation is the least of the turds in this $hit pie. The Dodgers coercing her to get Ohtani’s bally is the main dump.
Samson sounds and acts like a clown.