Great job. I like seeing an honest mechanic. Very hard to find someone who is honest and does good work. Keep up the good work. I have shared it to Google Plus.
Excellent job tracing down and fixing the problem. Good to see vids without yelling and four letter words. Keep posting. I like Murray mowers. Mine is a mess of flat steel and bolts holding the push handle together. The brake still works, the speed control is now a paper clip on the carb. The wheels wobble and it starts on the first pull.
Great , waiting for more to watch. I just enjoy watching repairs being made. My dad was a mechanic, but gone now, I followed him every where, and watched.
REally, really, really liked this video. I am an older retired female - ignore the John Smith handle. Anyway I have a Murry that is older then the one in your video but; pretty much like it. It turns over but; won't start. I had this mower repaired last year. I had to pay 50 bucks up front just to get it to the shop, then another 150 for the alledged repair. Here I am again with a tractor that doesn't run. Anyway thank you this was just great...
I enjoyed watching your video. I think it's very well done, and I liked the way you explained everything. When someone is explaining a concept, and they leave out parts of the explanation, thinking you already know what they are going to tell you, it breaks the continuity of the thought, so when they get through explaining the concept, it can leave you not understanding the concept as a whole. I guess I could have just said, "good job on the video".
Clear explanations of steps you used in trouble shooting and repairing the problem. That is a nice test probe. Shows power side as well as ground. Very handy. Mine just shows a light if there is power.
Hi. I am the owner of a 2005 Murray Model 405606X78A. I am after deck hangers, front pulley, height adjusters and required fixtures to mount my deck back onto the mower. Can you assist me here. Thankyou. Brian.
Dude you are THE man!! Way to chase that down. I am trying to figure out why our riding lawn mower runs for a sec then quits. Ran across your video. I like the way you edit, and you stay on point. Too bad your not our neighbor!
hey, excellent investigation to logically find the problem and fix it. Best of all, no non productive yelling, kicking and swearing. Liked the vid very much.
Like your vids. Your thought processes are similar to mine. The carb shutoff solenoids are supposed to keep gravity feed gas from flooding the cylinder. They can be tempermental ( I had one on a Deere Kawasaki Mikuni carb bowl that would work but only weakly -unusual for a solenoid - an I cut it open and tested it everywhchway and never solved the mystery and chalked it up to a partially shorted coil). Anyway glad I found your vids.
Great video man! Just found your channel and will look around here some. I really like this kind of stuff. You do good quality camera work. Keep it up and I will be here a lot.
great video very helpful showing process of fault finding. some of the new shrink tubing has waterproof glue in there so when you heat it up it seals out the water Im sure you know, I mentioned it for anyone reading comments.
Hey great video.....You can get an extra short bolt with matching threads....and get rid of the ABS..completely....its a antibackfire selinoid....I have bypassed a few of them and they can be costly...but best idea is to just replace em if they fail completly....and the hole in the muffler can cause damage to the valves!!!!
That spider in the tank reminded me of when I had a bee in mine and either it crawled into the fuel line or the pressure from the pump pulled it into the fuel line and plugged it. It took me a friggen week to finally figure it out.
Hey there watched your videos very informative. I just started mowing and when my riding lawnmower turns or incline it splitters out any ideas? From growing up in Brooklyn to mowing is a big deal.
@islandminisunlimited You would have to take it out and find a bolt that will if in the hole of the float bowl. Just remember that its there for a reason. Make sure if you try it to put the washer but in.
@MechanicDan1 You will have to find the oil drain first. I normaly run them and get the engine warm then drain the oil. The oil runs out faster that way.
@MrRedneckjosh Its a twin opposed that I saw in the junk yard, or just anything big. Its for the other 4x4 lawn tractor all wheel steer that I want to make
Problem was probably in the right side connector, not the wire. Anyway I didn't know about the fuel line solenoid so thanks for that info. Would like to know how to increase the RPM of the mower if you would care to help me with that problem. Seems to lack the power it requires.
We were given a Murray riding lawn mower not quite sure the year 90's maybe. It starts engine runs but mower wont move. I have watched your videos they have come in handy. Just cant seem to get the mower to move. Please help.
@epiphaknee Well where it was it dose not come in contact with anything and people do not normally cut the grass in the rain so I just let it slide. I was woundering if I could just pull the boot off another wire and put it on this one, as some you have to replace the whole coil to replace the wire.
also in a few murray models inside the exuast is a mid sized metal filter that if it has a whole or is cloged up or off would cause it to be louder than it shouls
Those cut-off solenoids seem to be a problem, on all brands of rider mowers. So do we recommend to the owner replacing the spark plug boot and let them make the decision?
Great vid! I've messed around with a few small engines and I don't think I've ever seen a fuel shutoff solenoid before the carb like that; I probably would have wasted time cleaning out the carb before I thought of that..good job! Your vids are great and I'm sub'd :) Around where do you reside?
@boodoorn I saw bugs go down into a fuel tank of a big farm tractor once, and I meen alot of them. It would keep cutting out, and we'd have to take the fuel pump apart to clean the screen in there.
@islandminisunlimited For the seat safty just unplug it. Not really sure how to remove the rest of it , but will have to do that at some point with my own
@MrTbdesigns Everyone can do it you just have to fallow a simple set of rules. 1 dose it have spark, 2 dose it have fuel, 3 dose it have compression. It works on all motors
Hmmm you can try it, all that might happen is that it will drain the battery down to much. I'm not sure what kind of voltage/amps they put out to keep the battery charged. Thats what you will need to know, how many amps the engine will put out, and how many amps the lights will draw. I see people putting LED lights on them all the time. Might be a better way to go, then you could add alot more of them.
I have a early 90's Craftsman lawn tractor with a bad magneto I think, runs fine on a freshly charged battery but when the tractor dies after a short run the battery is dead. I us a Jon Deer now one of these days I'll fix it or not lol.
Many of us are having float bowl flooding problems in our Tecumseh Enduro 16s on the Murrays. The videos are all over youtube of this complaint. We take off the carb, make sure it and the bowl is clean. Put the bowl on, put the carb on, gas her up and gas starts to flood the air cleaner and get in the oil. My bowl was pressure checked and held fine. What are your thoughts on this?
I gave up and got a new float bowl on ebay. The new one worked and held in the gas. My riding mower is running good now. Be sure to lightly sand the magneto magnets once in a while. You will be surprised at the ease of starting and strong performance. If you are hand spinning the cage keep your fingers away from the magneto magnet area or momentum will pull your finger between the magnets for a bloody fingernail injury that will take forever to heal.
for me to bypass the 50 dollar switch i bought a gasket and fuel bowl kit that included a plug for the bottom of the fuel bowl. that's how you save 50 bucks with a OEM briggs part.
the hard starting on that tractor and for all ohv single cylinder briggs is because the valves need to be adjusted yearly and nobody usually does that donyboy73 has a good vid on how to do a valve adjustment on a briggs ohv.
Whats saying when you blew the fuel back into the tank the spider came out of the filter into the tank again it`s just a drop port from the tank is`nt it into the line -so it would use up the fuel in the bowl then quit till it got enough to start -but that plug in was`nt the best either thats a mainjet shutoff -god they make some stipid stuff nowadays on my quad they put a tiny filter on the needle seat ya had to unscrew it to see it -- it kept dying too till I found it
Did you have to override the seat safety switch in order to start this thing without sitting on it? How did you go about doing that? Just a couple of other things I questioned: > Wrapping wires around the fuel line - probably not the BEST idea, though I understand why you did it. > I always solder my connections and heat shrink to finish with a heat gun. Butane leaves a lot of black soot. Radio Shack (I'm sure others do as well) sells a pin remover that you remove the whole pin from the connector in order to solder a new wire onto the pin, then reinsert it into the connector. Inline splices are pretty tacky. Good video though,Thank you for confirming the 2 different states (on/off when key on/off) That helped me a good bit with a minor issue I had. I have a MTD I just started to restore and I even have a spider sitting in the gas tank, same size, same color and in exactly the same place as your spider was. I had to rewind the video to see it again because it was so eerie perfect. Like I was looking at my tank on your video.
Unplugging it would leave the circuit open, wouldn't it? Or do I have that backward and sitting on it opens it??? Reckon I'll have to run out and see................
+AlwaysFreeAmerica Most of these will still run without bypassing the seat safety as long as the parking brake is engaged and the brake/clutch is fully depressed.
@ShawnCFarm lol yeah i'm easily confused by myself a lot too. i do notice things in some videos that few other people see or hear. whatever the case may be, you got the thing fixed and that's what the video is about. :)
@TheTractorGuy7272 Np. I make the videos as they come day to day lol. I have another one where the coil has let go. Its in one of my lawnmower tank track videos somewhere. I can't remember what number it is.
I thank if you would have looked in that carb bowl you would have seen one or two drops of water before you dumped it out, that was the only thing wrong with that motor. It would bounce then cut out and die, it ran rough at idle and there was not enough fuel moving thruogh the carb to pull the heavy water into the jets but it would try to untill it would slow down a bit. Then the water would fall back into the bowl. That caused it to miss. It is normal for them to sweat at times.
@RoflmaoAtSheepeople There are still some kids out there that like to work but not as many as there used to be. They'd rather sit on there ass watching tv, and thanks for your kind comments
also take the muffler off next time because there might be a piece inside broken off thats causing it to be loud. if you hear any ratting inside replace it. and the cheapest place for it pats small engine plus online theyll have it i got mine there for my 14.5 hp briggs. Also if you ever need help on any single cylinder briggs ask me i can help i work on these a lot.
Great job. I like seeing an honest mechanic. Very hard to find someone who is honest and does good work. Keep up the good work. I have shared it to Google Plus.
Another great video! Great camera work and easily understood explanations. Makes me miss my old lawn tractor! Keep em coming Shawn!
Excellent job tracing down and fixing the problem. Good to see vids without yelling and four letter words. Keep posting.
I like Murray mowers. Mine is a mess of flat steel and bolts holding the push handle together. The brake still works, the speed control is now a paper clip on the carb. The wheels wobble and it starts on the first pull.
I had that problem years ago. Pissed me off to no end. You'd think they would spend 5 cents to protect a wire. Great video.
Leonard
Great , waiting for more to watch. I just enjoy watching repairs being made. My dad was a mechanic, but gone now, I followed him every where, and watched.
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REally, really, really liked this video. I am an older retired female - ignore the John Smith handle. Anyway I have a Murry that is older then the one in your video but; pretty much like it. It turns over but; won't start.
I had this mower repaired last year. I had to pay 50 bucks up front just to get it to the shop, then another 150 for the alledged repair. Here I am again with a tractor that doesn't run.
Anyway thank you this was just great...
Thanks na d more to come. I lost my dad when I was 12. Was the hardest years of my life.
thanks for the vid,you're the first one I saw that explained the fuel solenoid on the tractor and its function.Thanks
very informative, i like how you went through many possible problems instead of just showing us what was wrong. Good video.
Nice job Shawn,Like how you help out your neighbors!!! Very entertaining vid,all your vids are.
I enjoyed watching your video. I think it's very well done, and I liked the way you explained everything. When someone is explaining a concept, and they leave out parts of the explanation, thinking you already know what they are going to tell you, it breaks the continuity of the thought, so when they get through explaining the concept, it can leave you not understanding the concept as a whole. I guess I could have just said, "good job on the video".
+Luvstruck Im always looking for good input, so a longer reply is welcome
Clear explanations of steps you used in trouble shooting and repairing the problem. That is a nice test probe. Shows power side as well as ground. Very handy. Mine just shows a light if there is power.
I like the complete explanation of all of what you were doing and why.
I look forward to more videos.
If I get another one I will make the video
Hi. I am the owner of a 2005 Murray Model 405606X78A. I am after deck hangers, front pulley, height adjusters and required fixtures to mount my deck back onto the mower. Can you assist me here. Thankyou. Brian.
Dude you are THE man!! Way to chase that down. I am trying to figure out why our riding lawn mower runs for a sec then quits. Ran across your video. I like the way you edit, and you stay on point. Too bad your not our neighbor!
hey, excellent investigation to logically find the problem and fix it. Best of all, no non productive yelling, kicking and swearing. Liked the vid very much.
I hate electrical problems, sometimes even the simple ones can take hours to figure out!! Fine job Buddy, even my name was close enough!!☺
Like your vids. Your thought processes are similar to mine. The carb shutoff solenoids are supposed to keep gravity feed gas from flooding the cylinder. They can be tempermental ( I had one on a Deere Kawasaki Mikuni carb bowl that would work but only weakly -unusual for a solenoid - an I cut it open and tested it everywhchway and never solved the mystery and chalked it up to a partially shorted coil). Anyway glad I found your vids.
Great vid Shawn, you're quite the mechanic bud.
Thank you! You just saved me about $100 to take my Murray in and get it looked at. I owe you a batch of cookies!
Great video man! Just found your channel and will look around here some. I really like this kind of stuff. You do good quality camera work. Keep it up and I will be here a lot.
Love your videos really interesting stuff! and you explain things very well and detail / Greetings from Sweden!
Thank you for makng this video. You have helped me to be aware and how to approach some of the problem solving. And thanks to youtube too. Bill H.
great video very helpful showing process of fault finding.
some of the new shrink tubing has waterproof glue in there so when you heat it up it seals out the water Im sure you know, I mentioned it for anyone reading comments.
Great video and I love the tracked mower conversion! I would love to make one for a craftsman I got, really unique idea!
Great video analysis.I enjoyed it, educational and interesting
Hey great video.....You can get an extra short bolt with matching threads....and get rid of the ABS..completely....its a antibackfire selinoid....I have bypassed a few of them and they can be costly...but best idea is to just replace em if they fail completly....and the hole in the muffler can cause damage to the valves!!!!
Very nice video, i do like your repair vids.
Thanks!
Will do. Thanks for your help. If it comes back this year for service I'll make a video on it.
Thanks, I'll have to look into if it comes back this year for service
That spider in the tank reminded me of when I had a bee in mine and either it crawled into the fuel line or the pressure from the pump pulled it into the fuel line and plugged it. It took me a friggen week to finally figure it out.
Hey there watched your videos very informative. I just started mowing and when my riding lawnmower turns or incline it splitters out any ideas?
From growing up in Brooklyn to mowing is a big deal.
Might be running out of fuel? float level mybe?
@islandminisunlimited You would have to take it out and find a bolt that will if in the hole of the float bowl. Just remember that its there for a reason. Make sure if you try it to put the washer but in.
Good job tracking that wire problem down. Electrical issues can be the hardest to find.
@MechanicDan1 You will have to find the oil drain first. I normaly run them and get the engine warm then drain the oil. The oil runs out faster that way.
SORRY ABOUT THE HARD TIME ! GOOD VIDEO DUDE VERY INFORMATIVE. PEACE OUT
@sc0tte1 Thanks my friend. All the newer ones have it, not sure what year they started in
there is also a wire from the solenoid that plugs in to the magneto under the engine shroud you have to take it off to get to it.
@MrRedneckjosh Its a twin opposed that I saw in the junk yard, or just anything big. Its for the other 4x4 lawn tractor all wheel steer that I want to make
Problem was probably in the right side connector, not the wire. Anyway I didn't know about the fuel line solenoid so thanks for that info. Would like to know how to increase the RPM of the mower if you would care to help me with that problem. Seems to lack the power it requires.
We were given a Murray riding lawn mower not quite sure the year 90's maybe. It starts engine runs but mower wont move. I have watched your videos they have come in handy. Just cant seem to get the mower to move. Please help.
I think it would be less trouable to just replace it with a used or new one. Not sure if you can remove it and bypass it.
Great vid! How do you go about changin the oil in a mower/power washer engine?
I always pressire wash stuff before i give it back, makes it look a lot better for the customer.
@epiphaknee Well where it was it dose not come in contact with anything and people do not normally cut the grass in the rain so I just let it slide. I was woundering if I could just pull the boot off another wire and put it on this one, as some you have to replace the whole coil to replace the wire.
Great video,helped me fix my problem,thanks
also in a few murray models inside the exuast is a mid sized metal filter that if it has a whole or is cloged up or off would cause it to be louder than it shouls
Those cut-off solenoids seem to be a problem, on all brands of rider mowers. So do we recommend to the owner replacing the spark plug boot and let them make the decision?
Nice, I'm ready to watch more videos like this :) Make more
Great vid! I've messed around with a few small engines and I don't think I've ever seen a fuel shutoff solenoid before the carb like that; I probably would have wasted time cleaning out the carb before I thought of that..good job!
Your vids are great and I'm sub'd :) Around where do you reside?
@boodoorn I saw bugs go down into a fuel tank of a big farm tractor once, and I meen alot of them. It would keep cutting out, and we'd have to take the fuel pump apart to clean the screen in there.
@islandminisunlimited For the seat safty just unplug it. Not really sure how to remove the rest of it , but will have to do that at some point with my own
@MrTbdesigns Everyone can do it you just have to fallow a simple set of rules. 1 dose it have spark, 2 dose it have fuel, 3 dose it have compression. It works on all motors
Thanks my friend alot more to come.
@TheNeal666 I sometimes get off track with this stuff, but it feels good when you get it right off
Hmmm you can try it, all that might happen is that it will drain the battery down to much. I'm not sure what kind of voltage/amps they put out to keep the battery charged. Thats what you will need to know, how many amps the engine will put out, and how many amps the lights will draw. I see people putting LED lights on them all the time. Might be a better way to go, then you could add alot more of them.
I have a early 90's Craftsman lawn tractor with a bad magneto I think, runs fine on a freshly charged battery but when the tractor dies after a short run the battery is dead. I us a Jon Deer now one of these days I'll fix it or not lol.
Many of us are having float bowl flooding problems in our Tecumseh Enduro 16s on the Murrays. The videos are all over youtube of this complaint. We take off the carb, make sure it and the bowl is clean. Put the bowl on, put the carb on, gas her up and gas starts to flood the air cleaner and get in the oil. My bowl was pressure checked and held fine. What are your thoughts on this?
My murray with a B&S 12.5 did the same thing. It took a week long acid bath to get the needle out and rebuild the carb but now it's running great.
I gave up and got a new float bowl on ebay. The new one worked and held in the gas. My riding mower is running good now. Be sure to lightly sand the magneto magnets once in a while. You will be surprised at the ease of starting and strong performance. If you are hand spinning the cage keep your fingers away from the magneto magnet area or momentum will pull your finger between the magnets for a bloody fingernail injury that will take forever to heal.
could also be a bad key stitch. had problems like that on a craftsman. traced it back to a 10 dollar ignition switch. cheap and easy
Another great video.
for me to bypass the 50 dollar switch i bought a gasket and fuel bowl kit that included a plug for the bottom of the fuel bowl. that's how you save 50 bucks with a OEM briggs part.
the hard starting on that tractor and for all ohv single cylinder briggs is because the valves need to be adjusted yearly and nobody usually does that donyboy73 has a good vid on how to do a valve adjustment on a briggs ohv.
Exhaust sounds raw :)
Great troubleshooting!
@Shoetiefly thanks my friend and that is a very strange problem to have.
Whats saying when you blew the fuel back into the tank the spider came out of the filter into the tank again it`s just a drop port from the tank is`nt it into the line -so it would use up the fuel in the bowl then quit till it got enough to start -but that plug in was`nt the best either thats a mainjet shutoff -god they make some stipid stuff nowadays on my quad they put a tiny filter on the needle seat ya had to unscrew it to see it -- it kept dying too till I found it
Did you have to override the seat safety switch in order to start this thing without sitting on it? How did you go about doing that?
Just a couple of other things I questioned:
> Wrapping wires around the fuel line - probably not the BEST idea, though I understand why you did it.
> I always solder my connections and heat shrink to finish with a heat gun. Butane leaves a lot of black soot. Radio Shack (I'm sure others do as well) sells a pin remover that you remove the whole pin from the connector in order to solder a new wire onto the pin, then reinsert it into the connector. Inline splices are pretty tacky.
Good video though,Thank you for confirming the 2 different states (on/off when key on/off) That helped me a good bit with a minor issue I had.
I have a MTD I just started to restore and I even have a spider sitting in the gas tank, same size, same color and in exactly the same place as your spider was. I had to rewind the video to see it again because it was so eerie perfect. Like I was looking at my tank on your video.
+AlwaysFreeAmerica I cant remember how I jumped the seat switch, I think I just unplugged it
Unplugging it would leave the circuit open, wouldn't it? Or do I have that backward and sitting on it opens it??? Reckon I'll have to run out and see................
+AlwaysFreeAmerica Most of these will still run without bypassing the seat safety as long as the parking brake is engaged and the brake/clutch is fully depressed.
@foxdmulder Its loud as hell too. I think the inside of the mufler is gone
@schrankm Yes your right, just thinking out loud abit. I think your the only one that caught that
@JamesReadythe5th Thanks my friend and that was the way I shot it for that reason
my 17.5 is doing the same thing. Does the shut off valve below the bowl just screw off?
@krismounts I try. I hope to biuld a shop next year so I can get a video up everyday or so
@ShawnCFarm lol yeah i'm easily confused by myself a lot too. i do notice things in some videos that few other people see or hear. whatever the case may be, you got the thing fixed and that's what the video is about. :)
@TheTractorGuy7272 Np. I make the videos as they come day to day lol. I have another one where the coil has let go. Its in one of my lawnmower tank track videos somewhere. I can't remember what number it is.
I thank if you would have looked in that carb bowl you would have seen one or two drops of water before you dumped it out, that was the only thing wrong with that motor. It would bounce then cut out and die, it ran rough at idle and there was not enough fuel moving thruogh the carb to pull the heavy water into the jets but it would try to untill it would slow down a bit. Then the water would fall back into the bowl. That caused it to miss. It is normal for them to sweat at times.
@RoflmaoAtSheepeople There are still some kids out there that like to work but not as many as there used to be. They'd rather sit on there ass watching tv, and thanks for your kind comments
@jamisgood21 Thanks my friend, more to come
@transdetendal Thanks. Fallow a few simple steps and you can fix any motor
@chevyreaper It is in good shape considering.
Good job fixing that lawn mower..
would it be ok to use synthetic 5w30 oil in that kind of engine?
@rgrimes145 Not sure its at work. I got it on sale from Mac tools for 19 bucks I think
I like how you "flicked your bic" right next to the FUEL LINE...#DangerousJones
@Smallgasengine1 I looked after but its there, just really loud
I never knew jordan would be in the lawn tractor repair business
I LOVE THE OPEN FLAME METHOD BY FUEL LINES TOO !THAT IS FUCKING SWEEEEET!
@TheLegoboulder It dose have a different look thats for sure
nice job will help me on summer
Could u tell me how to fix gears that will not go in place in a Murray riding lawn mower older model
@12jamesthomas Thanks my friend
I have a 1991 murry rider. I have never changed the fuel filter, it runs fine.
I have some the same way
When you say it won't move, do you mean like in forward and reverse? If so, the drive belt may have busted or come off a bad transaxle pulley.
@IHcubcadet It might have been so I used a zip tie and put it around it just in case
what if i make a long pipe for it or how much would that cost?
Really great video thanks..
More to come
also take the muffler off next time because there might be a piece inside broken off thats causing it to be loud. if you hear any ratting inside replace it. and the cheapest place for it pats small engine plus online theyll have it i got mine there for my 14.5 hp briggs. Also if you ever need help on any single cylinder briggs ask me i can help i work on these a lot.
@pcuser80 Keep watching more to come, and some crazy stuff
Another quality job.
@wasserranger Not a problem.
@januaryman169 Thanks my friend, lots more here.
@wolfsheadoil Thanks my friend