New VR Games Are Starting To Avoid Quest 2?
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- New VR Games Are Starting To Avoid Quest 2? Is Stand Alone VR Gaming FINALLY Moving Forwards to Meta Quest 3
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While I don’t think it’s very cool leaving all the Quest 2 bros behind, holding onto it forever will only hold the quest platform as a whole back
Tech is moving too fast to worry about Quest 2 users.... That's what happens when you buy a product in a space that is constantly changing, the device you buy today, will be outdated very soon..... It sucks for Quest 2 buyers, but is better for overall market.
How Asgard’s Wrath II ran on quest 2 made me want to upgrade. So I’m all set and excited for Arkham Shadow
Nothing wrong with it.
Never satisfied
That's the problem with the youth today
It’s about time! The limitations of Q2 for developers are too much to evolve VR. We are slowing things down in an already small market.
Nonsense
The Quest 3 owner base will need to exceed the Quest 2 before you start getting Quest 3 only games. Devs will lose out otherwise on sales.
That's the entire point of Quest Lite. Meta isn't stupid.
Releasing games on only one set is crazy , you’re basically making one device rule them all and they control the market , and are free to make good games or bad and if they have no competition they become trash , look at what happened to madden and 2k basketball , no competition made those games become trash
I agree too especially the games that can be released on quest 3 means can be released on PCVR/PSVR2 as well. It's always costs for these devs that prevents them from re-optimizing for other platforms as i heard it's a lot of work and costs.
I'm sticking with my Quest 2 and using Oculus Link on PC VR.
PC VR gives you many more options then stand alone like the quest 3.
Maybe I'll get another quest a different VR headset when my quest 2 dies.
Quest 3 does stand alone and pcvr much better than quest 2. The difference between the headsets is extreme. I’d highly recommend the upgrade to you. Your pcvr experience is suffering big time.
@@Thegooob95No it is not.
Your acting like the quest 2 is garbage all of a sudden.
Games you were enjoying before now suddenly you won't enjoy simply because the Q3 has better graphics (only just in some games).
What garbage.
The Q2 is still excellent and not worth upgrading if your already enjoying it.
No need to buy a new headset for £690 to £730 simply for a slightly better graphical experience.
Only an idiot does that.
@user-xi3mj3mx4j he is actually right ! If you have a beefy gaming pc and you are running the Quest 3 with virtual desktop on ultra settings you smoking the quest 2 big time ! Alone the pancake lenses are a game changer on its own, now the smaller Form factor wich is really convenient and the controllers without that shitty ring makes it even better, like he Said , if you have the money , upgrade!
@@user-xi3mj3mx4j I wasn’t talking about enjoyment factor I was taking about the difference between the technical ability (resolution) when using quest games optimizer on the quest 3. To say there’s not a radical difference between the headsets is wrong but most don’t know that because they aren’t utilizing QGO.
Quest 2 with the optimizer falls short of quest 3, the headroom is massive. The difference is massive. The experience is massive, but only when using the optimizer.
Base quest 3 is hardly different than base quest 2.
It’s 100 percent worth the upgrade for anyone who more than casually plays vr. Abso-fucking-lutely worth it. 👍🏻
@@TimsFPVundROVfootage thanks for having sense
My Vive is 8 years old. I do not get angry for no new software. Though Valve failed Vive colossally. I still love that old thing.
How did Valve "fail" the Vive? They created the thing and handed it to HTC on a silver platter.
If anything, I'd say HTC failed it with their spectacularly bad (and consistent) price gouging combined with piss poor leadership, but that's just me.
@@jessekoepp3928 They built it, then did nothing for the software side. We got the lab and Half life Alyx. As much as I do not like Meta. They at least keep making software for their hardware. I am a Valve fan. Just wish Gabe would get the band back together already. The Index is in house and still the same argument
@@gopherchucksgamingnstuff2263
That's pretty much Valves M.O. but I get what you're saying. IMO they could have (at minimum) simply financially helped out VR developers to get things moving, like Sony and Meta have done the last five years. (no one single company can maintain, let alone sustain VR forever imo)
They chose to hoard their billions instead, despite the fact it wouldn't have hurt their bottom line in any way that mattered.
It really seems (at times) like they barely give a crap about VR, but it's also hard to tell cause it's Valve and they pretty much do whatever they want.
I don’t own any quest headset. I think this move forward is good for all of vr with quality in all aspects. If there is going to be a cross platform or multi platform vr game, I think less of a downgrade would be beneficial to the consumer as well as allowing the developers to put out better, more full content.
I feel I would upgrade to a quest three if the games upgrade as well. The minimum standard should be Saints and sinners and if that can't be achieved, then the price of the quest two wins.
Stand-alone has been moving VR forward since stand-alone showed up.
Yup.
Stand-alone has always been there….example mobile phone gaming and AR cards
Stand alone has moved VR backward. Yes It has brought it to the masses but its no where near the quality PCVR was in even in 2017 when lone echo came out. Nothing in stand alone is a patch on HL Alyx or Resident evil 4 Remake. But with the increase of graphical power of the quest 3 I hope we do get that level of graphical fidelity and immersion. I think it's amazing what the Quest can do for a stand alone unit, I own a quest 2 and 3. But let's not pretend its an improvement PCVR quality.
@@linzkirk The first eight words of your second sentence completely negate your first sentence.
@@sirrealdealz if you mean where I say "Yes It has brought it to the masses". Well you are right then.
For me it's a double edged sword, it brought it to the masses but at the cost of diluting its power and immersion. Personally I don't see that as Moving VR forward.
I have the quest 1 and am thinking of getting the quest 3 with the halo strap for comfort and also more games to choose from
I got a Q3 but had a bunch of issues with it unfortunately like bad fog and glare with some other issues...I'm gonna try Q3 lite and see if that works for me since it uses the regular lenses
while I kinda hate that they are starting to do Q3 exclusives at the same time I understand why, especially people that have the Q3 and want the most they can get out of it
But how long before we hear rumors or leaks about the specs and tech of the Quest 4 or whatever Valve and Samsung is doing ❓️🤔
For me the colour passthrough alone was a good enough reason to upgrade, never mind the extra computing horse power q3 gives
In January, Townsmen VR was released for quest 3 only.
Why can I play it on both my Q2 and Q3 then with the same graphics and mechanics? I don’t understand
Would the quest 3 standalone games be available for quest 2 using a pc?
No. Only Quest 3 and Quest Lite.
Contractors Showdown shows us what the Q3 can do. Then the pancake lenses "chefs 💋 "
I just hate, hate the exclusivity with vr because it’s already a niche platform.
Exactly
Well for me, that's what makes a Quest 2 or 3 such a good headset, because it doubles as a standalone device and a PCVR headset. PSVR2 on the other hand is an expensive doorstop, I'm not splashing out more than what my PS5 cost me just to play a few games that are exclusive to that platform.
@@acurisur pcvr support is trash tho, they are negating amd support who knows why and only making it viable for nvidia, and even then it has issues
@@Frezzyy PCVR is fine on my PC. I do have an NVIDIA gpu but everything else on my motherboard is AMD, it's an X570 based PC.
@@acurisur yeah if you have a Nvidia GPU you won't have issues, it's the GPU that matters, AMD GPUs are just as capable but don't have support cuz meta doesn't want to
Its makes me pleased i brought my Quest 3 :)
Ever since i got quest 3, my quest 2 is somewhere gathering dust, not even sure where
Sell it for cheap to a friend who's been wanting to try it. That's what I did
Ha ha, I know all about that. My Quest 2 has been sat in a cupboard ever since my Quest 3 arrived.
ffs gift it to a kid instead of just hoarding it like a dragon hordes useless treasure.
@@blakes7207 same :P
On the one hand, it's cool that buying Quest 3 is starting to pay off not only AR. On the other hand, the lifecycle of standalone VR headsets should be about the same as that of consoles! 2-3 years is definitely VERY short! Considering that the development of around AAA games is 3-5 years.
At this rate, we will have time to buy several generations of Quests before we get the announced long-development (like GTA VR)LOL, you take Quest 2 for GTA VR, but you get it only for Quest 5 or even 6)
I apologize for my English!
Good point. That is holding me back as well. Why invest $500 into a Quest 3 (same cost as a PS5), only for there to be an upgrade in 3 years? Makes zero sense.
@@cw1217yes but with that reasoning, you would never upgrade your headset. I feel that $500 in exchange for 2-3 years of VR enjoyment is well worth it. Plus you can simply sell the previous headset each time to make the cost even lower.
@Conradaxx I get what you're saying, but at least make it future proof beyond 3 years. That would increase both value and sales.
@@cw1217 Quest 3 is still worth - it really cool VR/AR headset.
But damn, it's also a game console! And its life cycle should be the same - at least 6 years.
Otherwise, it will be a funny situation when a new big game will have to wait 3-5 years (or even more), but new Quest we will get every 2 years. It's weird!
Also, Quest 2 is still sale and got a very good price now.(obviously, a lot of people buy it and will continue to buy it until it is removed from sale)
Hmm, I wonder people who bought it this year will want to buy Quest 3..because Quest 2 is already outdated.. And how will they accept it? Still, buy a new gadget, not used, but new and in the store, and find out that it is already outdated and it's time to buy a new one - we live in a strange time!
@@ConradaxxWow.
You were clearly born yesterday.
No wonder companies have you by the testicle.
Your so easy to con!
Dropping $500 every 3 years is something only an idiot would do.
And that is if the price stays that way.
As tech gets more advanced so does the price factoring inflation too.
So next models will more than likely be dearer.
That's how business works!
Also the improvements do not justify the jump in costs.
You are a manufacturers wet dream.
Refuse to buy en-mass and the price drops.
Rush out like a little brainwashed zombie and the price increases.
Way to go Sherlock.
A fool and his money are easily parted, and is why the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
They prob gonna almost allow the exclusives on the quest light whenever it comes out to help push it
Good video, this is a topic highly debated 🔥👍
and will continue to be mass debated .
Still use the Q2 but, I understand. Was kind of waiting for the Q3 only titles to emerge before I upgrade.
For technology to move forward, you cannot be tied too long trying to support old tech. You could never play Playstation 2 games on a Playstation 1. You could never play Bluray discs on a dvd player. People need to upgrade to get the latest stuff.
PC isn't old tech so it's still unacceptable to leave out PCVR ports
Minecraft seems to be doing pretty well, If games are really good, people will overlook subpar graphics. Resident evil 4. On the quest 3 is pretty damn good. Dungeons of eternity is another example of a fun game to play and it actually looks decent. I know a lot of beautiful games that suck.
@@corvidconfidential8826 That is a different situation. That is like expecting every playstation 5 game to come out on Xbox, different platforms, not the same line
@@corvidconfidential8826 PCVR ports are often left out because they don't sell terribly well.
To be fair all of those things you mentioned had incredibly longer life spans. VR headsets have insanely short lifespans in comparison.
First off- your Channel is banging, having quest 2 and 3, the transition was amazing - however disappointed in the fact that there aren’t quest 3 only games - so super excited to see the likes of an alien game on the horizon
GT, you always have fantastic conversation starters, thank you for the vid! To that point, I love the fidelity we get with PCVR and PSVR2, but I also recognize that stand-alone is working well to get more people into VR. That said, I love my Quest 2, but in my opinion - to advance, we can't have devs spread thin developing (and optimizing) for older hardware forever.
I'm excited for it, but I honestly didn't expect meta to be making Quest 3 only games so quickly. I thought it would take at least another year, so I'm interested to see how much better they will be than the games that just get Quedt 3 updates.
I would curb your enthusiasm for Alien.
Know this studio there's a 50/50 chance it will just be a wave shooter with aliens running straight at you.
I wonder if Meta paid these developers to make the games Quest 3 exclusive? The main reasons to make something Quest 3 exclusive are MR and hand tracking (the Quest 3 is so much better than the Quest 2 on those aspects that you can't really compromise). Graphics fidelity can be downgraded, and while I understand why developers wouldn't *want* to downgrade the graphics, the Quest 2 market share is still miles ahead of the Quest 3, so making a Quest 3 exclusive is basically taking 80% of your potential audience and telling them to bugger off, which doesn't make sense economically, particularly when you're talking huge IPs like Alien and Batman. It really only makes sense if Meta came along and said "look, here's $15m, don't make a downgraded version for Quest 2, because we want people to upgrade to the Quest 3".
I think as somebody else is mentioned, VR is a very niche thing already and continuing to make it essentially more of a niche thing by releasing certain games on only one headset could have a detrimental effect. Completely understand that some things may not be as powerful and can't run as smoothly and progression is always needed but psvr 2 Still very powerful for its price not being utilized to its full potential. But great video dude. I'm intrigued to see where we are with VR in 6 months. I'm really excited for the alien game as well. Seeing a facehugger in VR is going to make me fill my pants.
Psvr2 has got to be the biggest tragedy in VR bruh, it is so insanely good when it works, but people aren't willing to put up with it's flaws. Sony ironically made a headset for PC enthusiasts without understanding what made the OG Psvr successful. It wasn't the quality or variety, it was the *price* that made it successful. Of course those of us who are enthusiast recognize the absurd value it provides, but that was never what attracted the normies, just price. 500$ seems to be the sweet spot for people, but the psvr2 is clocking in at about 1.2k, it's literally in the middle of PCVR and quest lol. Very bad spot to be in this market.
Sure but you can't expect Meta to bankroll PSVR2 games.
Loving my quest 2 as for quest 3 mabe, just because i own a pcvr headsets that standalone graphics just can't match plus i get to use a hotas and a wheel
I've got a Quest 2 and the leap between that, and the Quest 3 just does not quite seem enough. I want something with a smaller form factor and an improved fov. Hyper vision is the best VR headset I've seen and would love to see a Quest headset like that someday. Though I admit Arkham Shadow does look exciting.
I have a quest 3 so I don’t mind it. I never use my quest 2. Vr is still in the beginning where there are huge jumps into tech. So this was to be expected.
I am unbelievably excited for the exclusivity. Quest 2 was simply not powerful enough to run proper AAA games with somewhat decent visuals that weren't just hard to look at. With Quest 3, you now have the baseline of where Standalone should be to attract the masses, and we're now at the point where the visuals shouldn't get in the way or be absolutely unappealing to the millions of flat-screen gamers who are going to view these games at the Game Awards, for example. It will help massively with growing the VR market, and I fully believe VR will soon be able to get close to PlayStation sales numbers. Now that Quest 3 is somewhat close to a PC in performance (at least a lower spec one), and with the launch of Quest Lite as well as the MANY AAA VR games already announced for 2024 (Behemoth, Batman, Alien, Metro, and more), we should slowly be seeing a lot of people coming into VR and taking it seriously as a market. I think this is the start and a massive step forward to get to VR mass adoption. It surely will be awesome
Asgaurds Wraith 2 is a Quest 3 exclusive. The graphics did not drive the masses to buy Quest 3. Why? The graphics look like they came out 25 years ago.
@@ShiYuMeng2 Asgard's Wrath is a Quest 2 game through and through. It's not even properly updated for Quest 3. It has nothing to do with Quest 3 at all in any way shape or form. You're pulling this straight out of your ass. I agree Quest 2 is far too weak to run proper games but as I've said a whole lot of times; Quest 3 is a whole different thing. Quest 3 has performance to rival a min spec PCVR setup.
The Quest 2 dropped just a few months after I got my Quest. I held out for a year until I caved and bought the 2 for RE4. The IPD settings didn't work for me and that headset gave me constant eye strain and headaches. I upgraded to the Quest Pro when that went on sale and it was such a better experience, I have not touched the Quest 2 since.
I don't really wanna buy a new Quest just a year later when I'm perfectly happy with my pro..
I wish Meta would release pc versions of their exclusives.
I have Q2 and while it is disappointing I won’t be able to play Batman anytime soon, I get it, and I’m glad they are pushing forward with the new generation.
This will not push me to get Q3, as I have decided to accept staying one generation behind, as it just makes financial sense with how inexpensive the Q2 is now that Q3 is out. (when Q4 is released, I will finally upgrade to Q3)
Also, I recently started playing PCVR games, so I have a pretty decent catalogue there to get caught up on, and plenty of new releases like the Alien game to look forward to as well!
There will soon be a Quest Lite in around the same price range of Quest 2.
I would assume it's *mostly* up to the developers at this point, on whether to make the game playable only on the Q3 vs Q2. There are still tons more Quest 2 owners at this point, so they will have to decide if they want to take advantage of the broader user base (of Q2 and Q3) vs trying to maximize the Q3 hardware for the best game possible. I think for the moment, only the really intense/big name titles need to worry about it. Most of the games I have, a small reduction in graphics or performance to make it playable on both devices, wouldn't affect my experience too much. It might just depend on the type of game for now that dictates what developers will do.
My opinion: the Quest2 has been sold by the millions, for a great deal due to the pandemic. But now millions of those buyers don't use it. Making games for Quest3 only makes sense to me. It will help people buy one. For me to buy newer hardware was because the old one was not sufficient enough. I used to buy a new laptop every two years, selling the old one on eBay. Now my laptop is over four years old and for what I use it it's still good. No incentive hardware wise to buy a new one. All the specs and improvements of the Quest3 were enough for me to get one. But at the moment there's no other headset that I want. So, slowly showing the difference between Q2 and Q3 by excluding the Q2 for certain games, is not such a bad thing.
Finally quest 3 exclusives. Finally getting the full power being used to its full potential
Townsman VR was the first quest 3 official game... Well you can only play it on the quest 3... And I know this because I have a quest to and I wanted to download it but I couldn't
I’m pleased that they are Quest only games as I want to see what the Quest 3 can really do when it’s not being held back by the Q2 as I feel that I want to see why I upgraded last year
There is nothing wrong with the Q2.
Vader immortal and Hubris were graphically awesom.
The only thing held back is your common sense
@@user-xi3mj3mx4j what’s holding you back is lack of money in your little wallet as there is a massive difference in the q2 to q3 and I’ve owned all the Quests and I’m not worried when new technology updates old technology , just sell your old tech and buy the new
I purchased the quest 1 the quest 2 the quest pro and the quest 3. I have no regrets and do not feel ripped off. What I’m really looking forward to is the quest 6! VR still has a ways to go and I’m all for supporting it. I want the highest fidelity possible within my lifetime. Oh yeah and I pre ordered the Crystal light 😂
Im ready, i want to see what quest 3 can do up to the the point where it the battery doesn't blow my face off. 😂
🤣💥
I think it is time for devs to use the power of the Quest 3 but if they can get the game to run on the 2 it should be supported. In addition to the games you mentioned, some people have said that Townsmen is also Q3 only , but the Meta store still says Quest 2 as well.
Considering the actual playtime the quest 2 was a total waste of money for me objectively speaking.
But still I’m thinking about buying the new one, since it is fun to play in such a different way..
Only thing that is holding me back is the social aspect - can’t find any online buddies like on psn for example.
We have a community discord you can try discord.gg/bubDVaGY
@@GAMERTAGVR thank you!
If that GTA we were promised years ago was on quest 3 I would buy in announcement
I just think its nice the quest 3 is finally getting some exclusives
I’ve been waiting for Quest 3 excusives since the beginning of the 2024 so I’m extremely happy about it.
When I upgraded from the original Xbox to Xbox 360, I immediately had a choice of a dozen or so Xbox 360 games, not Xbox games that looked a little better on the 360 but actual next gen games. That was why consumers upgraded their consoles.
Some standalone games are just fine but pcvr is definitely better. I purchased contractors showdown on The Meta store for my quest 3, The tracking makes the game almost unplayable when I'm trying to shoot through ironsights or scope it's jittery so I went ahead and purchased the pcvr version and play with steam link, there are no tracking issues, the game runs smooth and looks better.
Well I went right to a Quest 3 from my Rift S VR headset. I knew Quest 2 would not be powerful enough to do my PCVR SIM racing games. I also liked hearing about the pancake lenses and the color passthrough.
All is working great with the Quest 3 and seems META is favoring doing more for the Quest 3 at this time.
The Quest 2 is a nice headset, but I feel it is on the last road into the Sunset far as new games and support. I have seen too many products in electronics get drop kicked because of something newer that came along.
Who knows, maybe something from META will be better than the Quest 3 in the near future. That is Technology. Companies are always striving for better products to entice people to buy them and retire the older products. I have seen the same in computers over many years of being in Electronics and Engineering.
Take care.
Red Matter 2 is the only game I have enjoyed and played to the end since I got my Quest 3. I can't wait for the new Batman and Alien Rouge Incursion
Cant wait for the quest 7 when we dont remember were in VR
After I got the Quest 3 I sold my Quest 2 to a friend. Those pancake lenses are soooo good compared to the Quest 2. Also, I own Alien Isolation on steam, but still haven't finished it. My heart rate goes up just thinking about playing it lol
It's not great, but Quest 3 games would be terrible if we still got upscaled Quest 1 games. The Quest 3 is getting to the point were I would prefer to play on my quest 3 than PC out of convenience and better input delay. But the major problem for me is the price. It's getting too expensive and I can see the Quest 4 price getting even higher.
I was only against Meta *mandating* how nobody was "allowed" to make Q3 exclusives. (sure didn't take long for that to fade away lol)
Seemed like a short sighted and stupid thing to do, *especially* when you're launching new hardware without a single piece of software that shows it off. I personally *love* to hear something is Quest 3 exclusive, it leads me to believe I might actually get something new that I haven't seen/done before. I can't freaking wait to see that event in June showing off Batman and that Aliens game, we might finally get to see what this thing can really do.
Bring on the exclusives!
I think it's for the best because there's really no reason with Quest 3 usage being high enough now to stick with Q2. Look at how much a prolonged cross gen period hurt the current consoles, like some people didn't even buy a Xbox Series console because they thought it was all the same thing because each console plays the same games. Not everyone wants the new hardware if they can still play games on the old one.
I'm torn on this. On one hand I like that Quest 3 will be used to its potential. On the other hand if it would rather play on PCVR for better quality.
Exclusives are fine but the Quest 2 should still get updates and support for a while longer.
I'm a quest 3 owner and I'm very happy about it I know Quest 2 has a really good deal right now but I try to convince people to get the quest 3 you cannot beat those pancake lenses that alone was worth the upgrade for me mixed reality was a bonus which is starting to get really good by the way
Standalone helped th VR platform grow, but massively put gaming behind. Look at the PCVR games we had in 2016. Most of them still absolutely destroy the quality of standalone games. Why Meta stopped supporting PCVR I'll never know. Such a weird move.
I see people complaining about this but at the end of the day we can only push the tech if we don't get hold back by old tech
Anyone who's tried the Q3 all say the same and that's "this thing blows all other headsets that can do wirless" so no competition
I just want the tech so move forward asap. We are early adopters'ish and will pay the price of having our tech be outdated fast.
I want the quest 4 already :D
It is a luxury product. We have to move forward. Gaming innovation way too slow nowadays anyway. We can not hang on to old hardware if we really want to evolve gaming experiences.
To drive standalone VR forward, they need to keep raising the bar. Why buy a Quest 3 if everything is hampered by targeting Quest 2? Introducing a Quest 3 lite could bridge this, but eventually, prices will drop.
Games For all people ,down Grade on quest2 but better graphics on Quest 3, Quest 3 it's very expenssive+extra components or quest3 lite
Yes, a lot to break down here Gamertag..
I think new headsets coming out every year or so is great right now, any slower and devs would be wasting time developing and optimizing games for a less powerful gaming experience. This is important because developers should be interested in giving us the best they can give, not something cheap and easy. (Although it seems this way)
Exclusives shouldn’t be a problem at all. Xbox and PSN have their own exclusives. Maybe what the problem is, is that these games franchises arent new, Batman, not new, and is it currently console exclusive to any console?
Ehh I’m to tired to write the rest maybe next time lol
I feel that Meta ultimately wants to monopolise the VR market. That said Apple and Sony are not going to give in too easily (I hope). Competition is what really drives things forward, so we do need all headsets to stay relevant. So far though, Quest is making it feel like it's almost but not quite a 1 horse race.
We can’t have it both ways. You have a very loud contingent screaming that quest has held back vr gaming or it ruined it. The q3 to q2 jump is a decent enough bump that if the game keeps the q2 in mind then it could hold back what can be done in the game. At the same time you have ppl wailing that meta is just being evil in making them upgrade. We are still too early in the tech where we get fairly steep jumps in performance/capabilities so support will fall off faster that some would like.
They could also just make a replacement for the quest 2 and price it similarly, even though I'm in the "quest ruined PCVR" crowd, I can be objective and recognize that we'll just have to play by their rules. But man at the very least just let the Q2 die, it's so far behind everything else it's sad.
Asgaurd's wraith 2 still looks like potato graphics. Quest 2 hardware isn't keep back Quest 3. Quest 3 hardware keeps back Quest 3.
Thank goodness I have a quest 2 with PC. V. R.
The show must go on. Quest 2 was going to get left behind eventually.
Echo VR alone would get me to buy a Quest 3.
I prefer PCVR... but I love seeing Quest 3 standalone getting more and more succesful.... The quest 3 is powerful enough to deliver good games. More money in the business will do good for VR as a whole. To me its hard to understand why people keep sticking to quest 2 as a VR enthusiast.
I’m a psvr2 only guy and i’m not even mad. I know the sub is in shambles though lmao
I’d love a batman game on our platform but how can i be mad? Exclusivity has been the console culture since the very beginning.
Until the dust settles and there is a clear PCVR and Console VR winner we’ll probably see little to no game sharing among 1st party titles.
It probably will happen eventually just as it does now between playstation and PC, as many people just will never buy a good computer to play pcvr and many people will never buy a console to play console vr.
Not there yet, so in the mean time exclusivity is gonna be a thing. They really should try to coexist if possible though, even if they garner different audiences.
I’ll probably end up buying a meta3 if the games keep coming, and i’ll gladly wait for our exclusives too!
And i realize in reading this standalone vr seems its own separate from pc and console vr, but i see it mostly as a pcvr device given the overlap. You can play alyx on meta right
I'm still sticking with sony . Something tells me they are building to something special .
As long as I can still connect to steam vr on meta quest 2, I'm good.
What would it take a price drop to where it's almost the same price as the quest? 2 was like it should have been always 6 to $700 for a head set is crazy. Sorry, that's why they're not selling twenty five million of them like they did the quest two
If you do a top tens again there are two games I suggest
Blacktop hoops releasing may 16th and atlas endgames open beta drops may16th both games are very good if you like 3on3 style games and battleroyale apex/realm royal style games
Blacktop will be $30 atlas as I know of will be free
I've already upgraded to bigscreen and don't regret it at all. Once you feel the bigscreen you're not gonna want to go back to a larger hmd regardless of weight. I have no problems with exclusivity..with uevr and top notch graphics on pc..I can't complain.
If they had a wireless version I would be all over it, If you're running Sims then the big screen VR is perfect but standing up and playing games dragging a cord around sucks. I don't know how many times I stepped on the cord with my old Vive before I got the wireless adapter which was an absolute game changer.
@@lanceobe6801 Nofio is currently working with bigscreen. Was announced at thrillseekers party.😁
@@lanceobe6801 Nofio is currently working with bigscreen😁 Me personally I don't mind the cable unless I'm playing roomscale games like tea for god or eye of the temple. I hardly ever play those and if they do come out with more games like that..then ill have that option if the wire becomes a problem
@@Vr_Demon_ Big screen was my first choice when I was upgrading my Vive pro but after having the wireless adapter for so many years I just cannot go back to the cable. So I decided to get the quest 3 which it's a really good headset. I just missed those OLED colors and blacks. I think meta needs to consider making an OLED version of the quest. 3. That would be a pretty awesome headset.
@@lanceobe6801Nofio is coming to bigscreen. So you have that option
Consoomer must consoome.
I think they need a certain amount of time to let customers step over to a next gen. But i think they should not over do it, like with the current generation consoles. For me it still feels like there is a small amount of games which really takes advantage of the ps5 and series X. Ofcourse the start with this generation was shit because of the lack on chips.
The risk is the same for the quest. If they develop with also the old generation in mind, I think the quality of the software will be limited.
I would say about 1 year overlap. So that customer can save some money. After that the focus should be to develop mostly for the new generation.
Good. Sorry Quest 2 but you just aren’t powerful enough. Need to push forward to keep it compelling for new users.
Vr is move forward to fast as far as technology goes . I will be buying every other system . If they plan on only having a 3 year cycle before a new unit surfaces. I will be getting every other one
Personally I think Quest Brought VR to the masses by making VR cheap. I was on Rift and loved PCVR, lone echo just came out and thats was pulled me in. PCVR game development is pretty much dead and we are only getting title that are made for quest 2. I had hope in PSVR2 as I believe the games are so much better than quest (not the lenses though) and closer to PCVR quality. So to hear title are going to be Quest 3 only make me happier, I have a quest 3 and PSVR2 hopefully we should start seeing some improvements in Quest VR, look what they did with red matter 2.
i wonder if Quest 3 could handle the Xbox360 version of GTAV in VR, its GPU is more than ten times more powerful, twelve times the ram, etc...
At the same resolution and frame rate: Probably Yes.
Otherwise, it's unlikely I believe. VR needs to run at a very high resolution and frame rate not once but TWICE (1 for each eye). It's very power-hungry. You also need to be taking into account so much more. VR needs a whole lot of power.
@@DevVRAR don't forget foveated rendering and ASW, it might look decent enough to be an awesome standalone experience.
Would rather have a RTX 3080 game. My quest 2 still works with that. PSVR2 is just as good.
It's about time,I paid £619 for my quest 3 and I want to see what it can do!
With the globular attachment, bobo headphones, prescription lenses, charging station and silicon covers I paid over £760 for the vr2 . I'm pissed Sony isn't doing enough .
Asguard's Wraith 2 - still has potato graphics. That is exclusive to Quest 3. Not sure how you expect it to look any better than that?
It's about fking time. Quest 3 is being held back by requiring Quest 2 support. It's like PS5 being held back by PS4. If you want the new games, then it's time to upgrade.
Im so bummed meta is withholding arkham vr from psvr2 when the market is so small, both headsets cost $500, and psvr2 has vastly superior hardware. It makes no sense to buy a quest if you have psvr2 yet they’re just gonna greedily bar us from the return of Arkham. Im betting they’d make more money from royalties on psvr sales than from psvr users switching over to an inferior headset that costs the same.
I'm not happy about those exclusives... VR is already a niche imo it's a stupid decision. I think they should also make it available on PSVR2 because it's pretty much equal in terms of potential and hardware power.
Meta bought the rights, nothing we can really do about it. They're banking a big IP will bring people in the ecosystem, and they know how far ahead of the competition they are. Psvr2 is on life support, PCVR is PCVR, yeah no they would never give up the exclusive clout for a couple million dollars. When you've wasted billions trying to build clout, millions ain't cutting it anymore....
Meta isn't going to bankroll PSVR2 games.
@@Thezuule1 Obviously, but still the hardware is same as powerful.
The old king is dead. Long live quest three. It’s time to move on.
About time, standalone can't stand still forever.
I barely played stand-alone games on the Q2 as they were pretty bad. On Q3 I play more stand-alone games than PCVR, it's really amazing how good the new Q3 only games are.
I need a price drop on the quest 3
Since I'm a real man, i don't feel anything besides war. I want this game for war stimulation 💯 give me lol
Exclusives is NOT moving forward, it's moving backwards.
Exclusives are a BAD thing disguised as a good thing.
it's bad for consumers
it's bad for developers
It's bad for the vr industry in general.
The only one who benefits is meta.
Wish I went 512gb 😂
if you have a pc I dont know why anyone wouldnt want a quest 3 too pair with it... too have the exclusives aswel as PC vr. but yeahh only reason they are doing this is too sell more headsets lmao they should have just gone all out and made gta San andreas a vr title XD that would sell a shi.. ton of headsets im sure. but as for the batman man vr game yeah I wish I had the option too have pc graphics
Its getting better but compared to a pcvr setup its still behind. Right now i did ditch my Valve index for the clarity of the quest 3 because its better optics and screens. I don't like most standalone quest games because to be honest they look like ass. Now combine the quest 3 virtual desktop and a steam library and you have gold. I do believe though quest is ahead of other standalone headsets with usability and price. The graphics will come in time. As we see how often phone hardware jumps each year the quest hardware will also. We just have to wait. I also feel Valve being the sneaky bastards that they are is hiding the greatest next gen standalone behind the scenes. They are amazing at keeping secrets and technology. So between Meta and Valve i think the future is going to be great for all VR players.
Luckily we don't have to deal with the outdated hardware or Quest 2 anymore soon. The graphics won't be an issue anymore soon. Quest 3 has performance to rival a minimum spec PCVR setup. It has some serious power behind it and leaving Quest 2 behind will do a lot of good for VR as a whole.
@@DevVRAR Completely agree. As long as the 2 is around they can't move too far ahead with the 3. They should just jump to quest 5 and call it a day
where is gta san andreas vr
😵😓quest 2.... never kno vr have exclusive too SMH oh well