I worked at Garrett briefly in the era being discussed, 2001. We had billet compressor wheels, titanium wheels, ceramic, etc back then. Don't forget Garrett was making turbos for the LeMans winning Audis, WRC cars, champ car, pikes peak, etc. So they were perfectly capable of building high performance turbochargers. At the time they were owned by Honeywell and the aftermarket business was miniscule compared to commercial diesel and OEM applications. So I don't think it was a question of capability, just prioritizing the bigger more profitable business.
I feel like I could have listened to yourself and Robert talk turbo's for another 2 years. I would like to hear more on variable vein turbos. Doing sequential turbo's. A bit more on technical variations.
It seems like some of the smartest people are the most interesting characters. I would love to see Robert Young, Paul Yaw, and Shane Tecklenburg at a table discussing and debating. With those three guys, I think it would be amazing.
My parents used to have a pachinko cabinet sitting around when I was a kid that never worked. I tore that shit apart until I found the part that was broken, and then fixed it with a paperclip 😂
I very briefly owned a turbo DSM. I had it for 3 years and sold it 4 years ago. But the knowledge base in the DSM/Evo world is broad and deep. The only other community I know of that goes as deeply into very technical details is the small block V8 crowd. While I was only a part time participant and I am between projects now, I hope to find a group of guys that can expand the technical knowledge I can learn. I tell you, Mitsubishi really had a solid base of enthusiasts that they let down by discontinuing the Evo.
@@GroovesAndLands The help that you get from Robert is awesome. You can't get that type of support from BorgWarner. Robert wants you to be successful. It puts a smile on his face when you are.
This is a great podcast that i can really relate to. I got my turbocharger education from reading a book called "Maximum Boost" by Corky Bell back in 2002 or 2003. The Internet didn't really help me get the answers and understanding i was looking for during that time. From 2003-2004, i built my first turbo, 4 cylinder engine and car that produced 336 whp. I wish there was a way to watch this podcast with motion images, so i don't have one image burned into the tv screen for 2 hours. 😐 Great video as usual HPA -Pantyeatr1
If you want to avoid burn in, most TV's have a mode in the display settings that will allow you to turn off the display while still playing the audio. Could be the solution you're looking for!
@@京都のゆめ yes, i have that option, but i rather look at cool HPA racing or running footage or pictures of the subject matter or even Robert Young's racing, building and testing footage. 🤓
I fixed mom's vacum cleaner when I was 5. I heard her beeing mad about it not starting so later without her knowing I grabbed the tools and took it apart. I saw the button had come apart so I snapped it back together and was about to put the lid on when mom walks in and yells at me for taking it apart. I told her to let me finish it ,so she did. A lil later I'm done and I plug it in and try it, it worked! Happy mom comes running saying shes sorry she yelled 😁
Not gonna lie dude, just started the podcast. Its amazing how similar, yet different, car guys are. I really wanna build my 7 for grip. Was thinking one of these turbos.
6:30 books are better, well, 10years back or more it was clear that I had to read book, all old forum post and web pages from motorsport teams told so xD Stuff like Turbochargers by Hugh MacInnes, Maximum boost by Corky Bell, Modern engine tuning, 2stroke and 4Stroke (Performance Tuning in Theory & Practice) by Graham bell or Race Car Aerodynamics by Joseph Katz all are nice.. tho both Turbochargers and Maximum boost i knew like bible🤣 7:30 here we go 🤗
Time Stamps: 3:35 How did you get involved with cars? 8:52 Where did the passion for turbocharging come from? 20:15 Starting your own turbocharger business? 25:10 How hard was it to design a cast stainless steel exhaust housing? 29:06 Ball bearing vs journal bearing turbos 38:51 Forced Performance overview 43:35 Turbos for Subaru’s EJ engine 47:10 How did Xona Rotor start? 51:42 Why didn’t you copy Garrett’s bearing technology? 59:46 Why is Xona Rotor its own company? 1:01:51 How are Xona Rotor turbos so good, frustrations of copied turbos 1:11:40 Development process for the compressor wheels? 1:31:34 Evolution of turbine wheels 1:44:06 How do we find the right size turbo? 1:59:22 Final three questions
So on the topic of pressure ratio should I be running my boost gauge off of the comp outlet? So I know what my pressure ratio actually is? Since I can reference actual boost from my map sensor at the TB seems like a logical place to measure from, no? Has me wondering if Im asking too much of this turbo lol. Should probably buy a turbo speed sensor kit as well ( ｡º﹏º｡ )
@@josephschaefer9163 turbo already has a port for speed so price difference is negligible if not less than going thru the trouble to have a bung welded in.
Absolutely great podcast and great info from Robert. I’ve known about FP and Xona for a while now but had no idea the whole backstory. Also, the particular bit of info about larger turbine housing A/Rs and the angle at which the exhaust gases hit the turbine wheel was an eye opener.
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Robert AND Andre together in a podcast? These two are literal encyclopedias this is gonna be a gooood episode
Gotta love Robert's no-nonsense verbiage. Man of the people right there 🙂
Dude is super down to earth and communicates effectively without resorting to jargon.
Competence within our industry is becoming rare. This interview with Robert by Andre is a breath of fresh air.
Great job, guys!
Kingmaker!
Great interview!
I worked at Garrett briefly in the era being discussed, 2001. We had billet compressor wheels, titanium wheels, ceramic, etc back then. Don't forget Garrett was making turbos for the LeMans winning Audis, WRC cars, champ car, pikes peak, etc. So they were perfectly capable of building high performance turbochargers. At the time they were owned by Honeywell and the aftermarket business was miniscule compared to commercial diesel and OEM applications. So I don't think it was a question of capability, just prioritizing the bigger more profitable business.
I feel like I could have listened to yourself and Robert talk turbo's for another 2 years.
I would like to hear more on variable vein turbos. Doing sequential turbo's. A bit more on technical variations.
It seems like some of the smartest people are the most interesting characters. I would love to see Robert Young, Paul Yaw, and Shane Tecklenburg at a table discussing and debating. With those three guys, I think it would be amazing.
Robert and Shane are friends even too. That would be an awesome podcast.
What a great interview. Robert seems like such a cool dude!
My parents used to have a pachinko cabinet sitting around when I was a kid that never worked. I tore that shit apart until I found the part that was broken, and then fixed it with a paperclip 😂
I very briefly owned a turbo DSM. I had it for 3 years and sold it 4 years ago. But the knowledge base in the DSM/Evo world is broad and deep. The only other community I know of that goes as deeply into very technical details is the small block V8 crowd. While I was only a part time participant and I am between projects now, I hope to find a group of guys that can expand the technical knowledge I can learn. I tell you, Mitsubishi really had a solid base of enthusiasts that they let down by discontinuing the Evo.
Robert is the goat
i love this, been waiting to see robert on this podcast for a while
Definitely need a part 2. This was amazing, the info learnt.
I run a pair of Xonarotor turbos, 6156's. They are freaking awesome.
How do they compare to EFRs? If you know...
@@GroovesAndLands The help that you get from Robert is awesome. You can't get that type of support from BorgWarner. Robert wants you to be successful. It puts a smile on his face when you are.
Robert is the best!
This is a great podcast that i can really relate to. I got my turbocharger education from reading a book called "Maximum Boost" by Corky Bell back in 2002 or 2003. The Internet didn't really help me get the answers and understanding i was looking for during that time. From 2003-2004, i built my first turbo, 4 cylinder engine and car that produced 336 whp.
I wish there was a way to watch this podcast with motion images, so i don't have one image burned into the tv screen for 2 hours. 😐 Great video as usual HPA -Pantyeatr1
If you want to avoid burn in, most TV's have a mode in the display settings that will allow you to turn off the display while still playing the audio. Could be the solution you're looking for!
@@京都のゆめ yes, i have that option, but i rather look at cool HPA racing or running footage or pictures of the subject matter or even Robert Young's racing, building and testing footage. 🤓
Sounds exactly like the “real good at doing stuff guy”
I fixed mom's vacum cleaner when I was 5. I heard her beeing mad about it not starting so later without her knowing I grabbed the tools and took it apart. I saw the button had come apart so I snapped it back together and was about to put the lid on when mom walks in and yells at me for taking it apart. I told her to let me finish it ,so she did. A lil later I'm done and I plug it in and try it, it worked! Happy mom comes running saying shes sorry she yelled 😁
@@KalLanPIDT Definitely happened...
@subbassrules 💯 did happened. What you think or believe matters very little to me.
Not gonna lie dude, just started the podcast. Its amazing how similar, yet different, car guys are.
I really wanna build my 7 for grip. Was thinking one of these turbos.
An IH 1066 tractor makes about 6-8 psi stock. There are stock turbo pulling classes and they make 125 psi on those poor stock turbos
6:30 books are better, well, 10years back or more it was clear that I had to read book, all old forum post and web pages from motorsport teams told so xD
Stuff like Turbochargers by Hugh MacInnes, Maximum boost by Corky Bell, Modern engine tuning, 2stroke and 4Stroke (Performance Tuning in Theory & Practice) by Graham bell or Race Car Aerodynamics by Joseph Katz all are nice.. tho both Turbochargers and Maximum boost i knew like bible🤣
7:30 here we go 🤗
I stumbled into a Precision 6466 by winning it in a giveaway. Absolute unit on my BMW E46 M54b30 👌
Time stamps would be
Great
Time Stamps:
3:35 How did you get involved with cars?
8:52 Where did the passion for turbocharging come from?
20:15 Starting your own turbocharger business?
25:10 How hard was it to design a cast stainless steel exhaust housing?
29:06 Ball bearing vs journal bearing turbos
38:51 Forced Performance overview
43:35 Turbos for Subaru’s EJ engine
47:10 How did Xona Rotor start?
51:42 Why didn’t you copy Garrett’s bearing technology?
59:46 Why is Xona Rotor its own company?
1:01:51 How are Xona Rotor turbos so good, frustrations of copied turbos
1:11:40 Development process for the compressor wheels?
1:31:34 Evolution of turbine wheels
1:44:06 How do we find the right size turbo?
1:59:22 Final three questions
So on the topic of pressure ratio should I be running my boost gauge off of the comp outlet? So I know what my pressure ratio actually is? Since I can reference actual boost from my map sensor at the TB seems like a logical place to measure from, no? Has me wondering if Im asking too much of this turbo lol. Should probably buy a turbo speed sensor kit as well ( ｡º﹏º｡ )
Cheaper and easier to monitor drive pressure and egts
@@josephschaefer9163 turbo already has a port for speed so price difference is negligible if not less than going thru the trouble to have a bung welded in.
Absolutely great podcast and great info from Robert. I’ve known about FP and Xona for a while now but had no idea the whole backstory.
Also, the particular bit of info about larger turbine housing A/Rs and the angle at which the exhaust gases hit the turbine wheel was an eye opener.