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@@olleselin I agree. She was kind & had patience. Now she is a hot headed douchebag who misstreats Luna & steals the last word & uses the Royal Canterlot Voice at her & is the 1 to use it the last. This is NOT the Celestia i know & love. Also she is pathetic with her fear of chickens.
Agreed. I've gotten to where I can't stand the "new" Patrick. I especially hate that episode where he eats Squidward's Kelpie-G tickets for basically no reason. Such a jerk move!
Brian does that over and over. As soon as he gets any money or fame he abandons any semblance of morals, then only apologises and goes back when he’s lost it
Flanders always was an extremely religious man. Flanderization refers to how a complex character became oversimplified and reduced to an exaggeration of his main traits. Flanders always was extremely religious in every version of the character.
@@aliminator1310 I realized that when I was rewatching the HIT era to remember straight and instantly cringed at the Edward and SKR episodes from S7 and 9 to 12...😡😠👎
@@West_Coast_MainlineDo you think the intentions of the writers of The HIT Era wanted to write the SKR engines as children by how small they are with complete disregards of how they written in previous seasons to aim to a much younger audience?
I’m not surprised that some Thomas characters like: Edward, Skarloey and Rheneas were thrown on the list. Even though Thomas wasn’t a cartoon back then, they’re really good examples of bad character change.
The problem comes from not retaining writing staff. Writers are MORE important than actors.. they tell the story as it unfolds. Replace anyone and the story changes. A generation raised on group projects should understand that concept.
Yes to a point. It’s also having a decent continuity guy to keep things in line so characters are kept to what they’re meant to be or if they’re meant to evolve it’s done over time. Everyone changes in life, people’s personalities will evolve, it’s just getting it done right. Changing writers will not help with that.
@@munkiemedia3323 then why are writers treated so expendable?! Is it due to the stigma of actors in the lime light? Or is it the pressure to crank out episodes quickly?
@@zacharycardon2353 “creative differences” and just changing jobs after contracts. Everyone is expendable to studios, even the show creators. Just look at what happened with Dan Harmon on community.
Yeah they really threw out all of Timmy Turner’s character development and turned him into a selfish brat with a loud obnoxious squeaky girly voice, he had excepted that one day he would grow up and lose his fairy godparents but this was ruined in the later seasons by twice making it so he never loses them.
His attitude probably got like that FROM the godparents themselves. Think about it, what kid isnt gonna be bratty if he has two fairies that give him everything he wants?
Bens transformation didn’t surprise me too much. He went five years without being a hero, then became a hero again and slowly grew cocky over time. He did the same as a kid. All the family guy characters just took a nose dive for me.
Yeah i though the worst was Heather but at least she gets better over Time (or at least less selfish). Friggin Courtney and Alejandro are worse in every way.
Well for most of the OG characters they had the worst treatment in All-Stars, but Courtney was just bad in Action as she was in All-Stars. Plus, even though I think All-Stars is the worst (technically I like the first 3 Episodes and think the rest of the Episodes are just waste of my brain cells) and Pahkitew Island is just underwhelming (like the first 6 Episodes and the rest of the season made ok characters into complete memes) I can still say All-Stars had so much potential, but all of it was (somewhat) ruined when Cartoon Network had more of the saying then what the creators had in mine because this was the actual reason why we got Total DramaRama in the first place.
@@Karlebow571 that is very true, but neither side was innocent in this whole love triangle mess. Duncan and Gwen betrayed Courtney’s trust, and Courtney let her paranoia and bossiness drive away those who genuinely cared for her. Which is why I like the love triangle arc in World Tour than most people do.
Ben's personality becoming more like his 10-year old self WAS NOT because of the writers, it was because of the Network(CN) wanting better ratings. Unfortunely for them, the ratings did not increase and Ben kind of stayed the same .
Yeah i'm very sick of how they changed Brian's character. I bought every season up to 7 or 8 and barely even watch it at all anymore. Plus the sudden hate relationship between lois and peter
Personally, I love all these shows. But one big complaint I have with Foster home for imaginary friends is Bloo. He is so selfish and mean to everyone, even to friend Mac. He was ok in the first season but as show would progress he gets so bad that I wish Mac would’ve left him. And even with that I doubt he’ll be upset. Now I get what the creator wanted to do with him by making the conflict in most episodes, but not to the point of making him so hateable that even Rigby from regular show looks like a saint compared to him. What makes characters like Rick from Rick and morty or Bojack Horseman great examples of lovable jerks is that yeah they’re jerks but we learn so much about them and given so much layers that it’s pretty hard for me to hate them but instead makes me love and care for them as characters. Bloo is just a jerk for no reason, even when people help him he can be ungrateful. But other than that it’s a good show, could’ve been a masterpiece if it wasn’t for Bloo.
Let's remember something Mac is the one who created Bloo. So somewhere in Mac's mind he's was made from that trait that was inside of Mac. In short the imaginary friends are like the shadows of there creators.
With the Fairly Oddparents, you'd have a hard time finding a major character that wasn't extremely Flanderized. In early episodes, Wanda was a little smarter than Cosmo but was still "half of a whole idiot", Timmy's parents were dense but they still cared about his well-being, and Vicky was evil, but she still feared getting caught/ blamed. In later seasons, Cosmo (somehow) got dumber and more childish, Wanda became the "nag", Timmy's parents wouldn't care if Timmy died right in front of them, and Vicky controlled her parents with an iron fist.
I agree! It stunk that Timmy’s parents became just more and more neglectful I didn’t care about them really much anymore. I hated that even Vicky‘s parents were afraid of her why she never went to jail permanently is beyond me, but the show probably would’ve ended if that happened. I honestly missed Cosmo and Wanda wanting to have fun together instead of Wanda constantly being a nag and Cosmo becoming more and more stupid. I felt really bad that Timmy became more selfish, but despite those things rubbed me the wrong way. I still watch the show for a long time but lost interest mostly after Wishology.
I know right? I remember the episode where Vicky forced Timmy to clean her house because she didn't want to upset her parents. She's a teenager after all so why they turned her into basically a demon in human form that everyone ESPECIALLY her parents fear her makes no sense. She seems to just like to toture kids compared to back then she just often get them to do things she want, much like Angelica did to the babies from Rugrats.
Even though all their characters have been fixed in the child series, they barely appear at all! Mattel deems the Narrow gauge engines un-marketable, and Edward just got tossed to a background cameo character.
What do you mean? I see it as the exact opposite of being easy and taking it safe. A writer being lazy and safe is keeping the characters exactly the same year after year. Trying to evolve a already well known and loved character is extremely hard and risky.
As for Ben's derailment in "Alien Force", blame the writers on that. I read somewhere that they decided to make him act more like his 10 year old version from the OG series, as to appeal to the original audience. And clearly that worked like they hoped it would.
Not really, Eugene son stated fools gold was retaliation for being denied their season 3 plans; simply by execs to make the show be like the original show, something that has piped up time and time again
I kind of you this personality change in season 3 as him being relieved that the main plot in the first two seasons was finally resolved and that was a major release for him so we can just relax and be himself again
@@angiemontgomery4712 Eugene Son... that dude was so bad he ruined the Saint Seiya Netflix reboot years after working on Ben 10 Alien Force I know, 2 different shows but both had him as a writer and it clearly shows, especially in Saint Seiya's case where he pissed on the original source material by changing A LOT just to pander to some demographic
Timmy Turner: Yeah I used to feel for this kid earlier on. With the worst parents ever who neglect and do stuff without him, leaving him alone with a psychotic teenage babysitter. But I get after awhile he behaves more selfishly, and his wishes started becoming more dangerous. Courtney: Personally I never liked her even before she suffered character derailment whenever she didn't get her way. Bloo: I thought he was good in the pilot movie, but when they decided he was better off as a selfish douche to everyone at Fosters, even to Mac himself he lost my respect. Makes me wonder why Mac would continue to keep coming to Fosters and not let Bloo be someone else's problem. Patrick Star: I liked him better when he was just a dumb goof, but as Spongebob continued on he became more violent and brain dead stupid. How did this guy get his own show again? Brian Griffin: Yeah he used to give a damn about people and the Griffins as well, but then they decided to start giving him all these bad traits to make him loathed by the fandom. Granted just about every other character suffered character derailment, but yeah Brian ended up becoming a terrible pet. The Titans: It doesn't matter that the Titans in this series know they're hated. In fact they act proud to be hated. They make me wish DC cartoons went back to the way they were in the 2000's. Not total comedic relief and only ten minutes long an episode
These Bratty Go Toddler Titans might be self aware that they're hated, but that's still No Excuse for this series to go on and on, and completely overshadow other Superhero Cartoons. I just hope DC gets back on Track when Batman Caped Crusader and My Adventures with Superman come out.
don't forget that time Japan made their own take on them, which was also bad the original is the best, the other series never existed in the eyes of fans lol
When I saw Thomas the tank engine original seasons 1-7 one of the characters I loved was Edward since he was the meaning of experience, but when I saw him in the hit era they've turned into a fragile senile who is treated like he's is always weak and not wise
Me too! I hated how that looked and how teen titans go was just getting started back then I know it wasn’t gonna be good after watching a commercial with the lumberjack trying to wreck the hippie Carnaval!
@@DragonGoddess18 And yet it still lasted more than one season. And TTG! is still going! How do these crappy shows continue to exist!? At least Thundercats Roar got cancelled!
That episode just breaks all of continuity. Like it's stated in a past episode by Jorgan that all wishes are carefully monitored and they somehow avoided the fact how a secret wish can be slipped by (or even exists to begin with). In short, Butch Hartman butchered his own show. Big time.
After everyone discovered the secret wish Timmy made, I’m surprised they didn’t take away his fairies for a month or year. Considering he’s still 10 and yet an adult, taking them away for a month or year would at least teach him a lesson.
For me the worst has to be Peter. I get that in the beginning he was at best a Homer Simpson knock-off. But over the years he's just chaoticly destructive,all for the sake of thinking what he's doing will be funny. Much like a child breaking something valuable and expecting others will join in on his humor,the less said about how he mistreats his own family the better,we're talking about a guy who injurs or allows harm to befall his own wife for the lols
I'd say it's a tie between him and Lois, with Peter following close behind. Lois used to be a loving, caring mother, but over the years turned into an emotionally abusive, neglectful parent. The way she treats Meg alone is enough to back that up.
Fairly odd parents is honestly the one Nickelodeon show that has derailed more then anything else. Even more so then spongebob which is saying a lot. Talk about beating a dead horse…
There were many shows that suffered a huge dip in quality due to the absence of their creators, like the aforementioned SpongeBob. But Fairly OddParents is very different, as it is an example of how a show's reputation can largely be ruined even with its creator still on board. Comparing the creators of SpongeBob and FOP especially during their modern era, it seemed like Butch Hartman only cared about his own ego than his audiences. I feel like the reason for SpongeBob improving was because of Stephen Hillenburg's complete loyalty to his fans.
I agree. Say what you want about SpongeBob Squarepants being on the air for a long time, but at least it tries to stay relevant every now and then. But when The Fairly Oddparents got bad, it just kept getting worse and worse.
I had a thought about the Seymour Skinner one. I think in hindsight, the whole reason that episode existed WAS to parody horribly ret-conned characters in shows where they’ve previously been established as characters. Think about it, this was after they essentially created the term of “Flanderization” before it was even called that by derailing Flanders character. They were probably already getting feedback for that even then before the internet age, and even though they’ve got the phrase coined in the late 2000’s, flanderization was a thing before the Simpsons(one famous example being the Fonz from Happy Days, another being Steve Urkel in Family matters, although that one worked out better for the show in its case). As exaggerated as they go with thoroughly removing the character we’ve seen play out on screen for several years up to that point, to the point of almost total erasure of identity (I mean he was a dutiful son to an abusive mother, kind of ridiculous she wouldn’t notice or that he would continue the charade with her for very long instead of just breaking the relationship and not having to do any of that) then basically looking the viewer in the eye and saying “Well nothing changes and everything goes back to how it was and the rest-con was a stupid pointless misadventure for the sake of more episode” it shows in my mind that this information was intentionally disregarded in order to make a joke on how shows will thrash established characters and then keep going on without ever really addressing these changes, acting as if they never happened or things were always like that. In that context, I think it’s hilarious, and was so ahead of its time(because mind you, Flanderization wasn’t a term back then so there wasn’t necessarily a name put to this trend other than “jumping the shark”, making it difficult to put to name what they were even spoofing). I think the translation between audience and show-runner was lost here, and people took it in the more negative way while the creators didn’t take into account it could end up mattering so much to people. After all, Skinner, although not necessarily a background character, probably seemed inconsequential enough to make him the subject for this joke. It’s not exactly like they were selling as much Skinner merch as they were The Simpson family, Crusty the clown, or even Apu, who was kind of a cultural icon(making the decision to remove him 30 years later even more brain dead and tone-deaf). This joke would probably play out a lot better now a days where we are more attuned to meta jokes and commentary. It would almost be cliche at this point, but at least even if people didn’t like the joke or how they decided to make it, they would know that there was an intent behind it besides “let’s just needlessly ret-con fake-out people for the sake of adding dumb lore to Skinner’s character.
I figured that Timmy was short for Timothy. Tiberius though was a ... surprise. Did his parents use their last collective brain cell to come up with that one?
I'm honestly surprised that only Edward, Skarloey and Rheneas were on this list. In my opinion, its seems like all of the characters have taken a step or two back from what they were back in seasons 1-5
I think Mr. Krabs was the one that angered me so much. In the first three seasons while he still cared about money, he still had a heart. He acted like a second father to Spongebob like when he lost his confidence because he messed up on Bubble Bass' order, he was also like a second father to Patrick, often teaching life lessons and while he argued with Squidward at times, he still cared about him. He was also a cheap but well intentioned father to his daughter Pearl. His rivalry with Plankton was made for comedic effect and not seriously as say that certain episode. Now, he a just jerk who only cares about money and himself and won't hesitate to go to any lengths to get a single cent and keep it for himself even using his most loyal employee to do so.
Teen Titans Go is like Teen Titans from an alternate timeline where the original never got cancelled, but continued on despite the heavy Flanderizations.
Gravity Falls died a good show, while other long-running cartoons such as Simpsons and Family Guy lived long enough to see their popularity deteriorate into nothingness.
I hated what they did to Gwen more then Ben, she was a snarky sharp tongue short hair tomboy. In the sequel she was more girly, didnt look anything like when she was 10, and was suddenly in love with Kevin. I can tell i wasnt the only one since they clearly changed her appearance to look more like the original in later series
The entire Thomas & Friends cast was basically forgotten after the ousting of Britt Allcroft and the sale of the show to hit entertainment. This lovable show about life on the railway that was loved by young and old was reduced to a show that ONLY kids could enjoy. To be fair, the newer episodes brought back some great writers, but honestly once Britt was gone the reverends vison was gone too.
One that bothered me was character change of Ash Ketchum in Pokémon BW. For two previous series and three regions, Ash was portrayed as experienced, albeit with still some childish tendencies, but his experiences and certain kind of maturity came especially out in comparison with his new travel companions, May and Dawn, who did all those rookie mistakes Ash did in the Original Series and often, it was Ash who corrected them. However, in BW, they reverted him back to his rookie, childish personality he had in OG, taking out all the character development he gained previously. And it didn't work. Even the creators realised that and in XY they tried to change his characterisation back to what it was in AG and DP, but the damage was already done ;-( Another bothersome character change for me was the change of Takeru/T.K. in Digimon Tri. How could they change this loving, caring boy into an epithome of teen hormones, who will flirt with any girl he meets is still beyond me.
SURPRISED TO SEE THOMAS & FRIENDS UP ON HERE! Also Edward was Wise once again in the CGI Series and Edward Strikes Out is one of the Worst Episodes. As for Skarloey and Rheneas, they also turned back to Being Wise in the CGI Series.
@ᴄᴏᴜʀᴛɴᴇʏ ᴡʜɪᴛᴍᴏʀᴇ she became a competitive but had morals to someone who would threaten to speak to the cops if McDonald’s doesnt get her order right.
Wait, wasn't Roger smith always like that? Have hayley and francine fight each other, exposing himself as in alien for an article, constantly have the family and stan worried about Roger's antics?
and people kept watching his antics for 18 seasons now that show was never funny and Stan is just a selfish jerk as Roger I've stopped watching the show after its first few seasons and never looked back
Poor Courtney, I feel so bad for her. She didn’t deserve to get derailed like that in Sundae Muddy Sundae. I understand that a lot of people hated her but I feel so bad for her.
@@gothikaxenon believe it or not you’re right they forced the writers to break up duncney and Gwent so they could put gwuncan together ruining all 4 characters in the process
Absolutely agree about bloo. I remember liking bloo in the intro movie. Then as early as the first episode, I was wondering "what happened to the lovable miscreant that was loyal to Mac? Now he's a selfish bratty Karen." The final straw for me was Bloo going out of his way to plan multiple birthday parties at once to humiliate Mac, and the fact that he was doing it to Mac for years. He is not a friend
Hard to argue with that list though I think he should’ve also briefly mentioned how Spongebob’s character derailed to becoming even more annoying and happily insane and Mr. Krabs to becoming more self centered and cheap. I’m seriously not kidding. Just watch the first few seasons and then a couple of episodes in the later seasons and you’ll see big flanderization with them.
I honestly would have said all of them in Thomas and Friends because when the later seasons came most of the characters complain when they don’t get a job they wanted, thinking they know best when in reality they are just showing off and bragging to the other engines, or just causing the accidents by doing something that they know they shouldn’t be doing. At least the CGI series is trying to take a little return to form.
@@shadowpersonoftheunknown6245 Thomas started out as a series of books which then got made into a British TV show. Shining Time Station was an American TV show created by the British producer of Thomas and Friends to introduce Thomas to the US. In short, STS was a 1980s invention and Thomas dates all the way back to the 1940s.
Duncan from total drama, his changes were more outraging than courts. he literally went soft. he was one of the baddest guys out there in the first 3 seasons and then where did that go in season 5???
Remember when Lola Bunny became an actual funny character with a memorable personality when she was moved from Space Jam to the 2011's Looney Tunes show? Sure, it was once again ruined in the Space Jam sequel, but it was still a unique example of a poorly written character becoming a new fan favourite. Why can Scrappy Doo get this kind of treatment in a new adaptation? And I'm still hoping Flash Sentry will get a personality and character arch in Pony Life, but that's just a dream.
I honestly never disliked Scrappy Doo. He may have replaced Fred, Daphne, and Velma for a while, but I never found myself hating him. I liked how he wasn't afraid of fighting off against monsters, even if Scooby would pull him away from it. And I agree, if Lola Bunny can get an updated personality, anyone can.
Roger is a fan favourite on American Dad though?? I don't know one person who rage quit because of him becoming more of a sociopath over the seasons, since his character started showing signs of that early on anyway. And honestly his unstableness is one of the biggest comedic highlights because of how absurd he can be
I rage quitted over that. Roger was being slowly stripped of all his redeeming qualities ever since Frannie 911, which completely destroyed his character flexibility by revealing he has to be bad or die. Frannie 911 was a horrible episode that set Roger’s derailment into motion as the writers were just hellbent on making Roger completely despicable
@@daniellewis4154 well you are in a very small minority my friend, that episode actually gave a solid reason as to why he was acting like a jerk in the beginning, which means he doesn't act so selfish and horrible for no good reason and mostly only does it because it kills him if he bottles his bithciness up and acts nice. In fact it makes it so much more meaningful when he does good deeds with no ulterior motivations; he is sacrificing his own health just to redeem himself and help others. It's actually almost everyone else in the Smith family has been completely derailed and made to be as despicable as possible FOR NO GOOD REASON, excluding Klaus and Jeff as they are the victims of the family's abuse and sadistic antics.
Yeah, I feel like the characters more so became stable as opposed to being Flanderized. I am of the opinion that it’s an improvement but given that the show had to move channels to survive, I know that it dropped in the ratings over the years.
But like I said, that condition Roger had only destroyed his character flexibility just to bring back status quo. That condition has never been seen or mentioned again. Plus love ad style has been deemed one of the worst episodes in the series by fans because of how badly Roger was derailed. That condition is just an excuse for the writers to go ahead with flanderizing Roger
"Family Guy" really got hit hard with flanderization as the years passed. Putting Brian aside, Peter became a psychotic narcissist, Lois a cheating, shrill bully, Cleveland and Joe the butt of race/cripple-related jokes, Meg pretty much Quahog's whipping girl, and Stewie a flamboyant metrosexual with an obvious crush on Brian. There's more than that, but those are probably the most prominant examples in addition to Brian.
Family Guy feels like the characters originally only had depth because the writers weren't yet sure which singular note they wanted for each, and so gave them broader personalities to experiment with what might work for each. Once they figured it out, they narrowed it down until each character became unrealistically generic.
Yes the rampant character derailment and Flanderization of most of the characters on family Guy was a very serious problem. American Dad also had that same problem down the line too
@@daniellewis4154 Difference being that American Dad (I feel) manages to not only make the characters more charming despite that, but such changes feel more like appropriate exaggerations of what they originally were rather than the characters just being outright changed.
I kinda feel that the changes on Edward being a feeble old-timer with confidence issues was to relate to Thomas fans with ASD who’ve been yelled at by their parents
It’s nice to see Thomas characters get mentioned. It’s weird to think about now, but the original books and series weren’t aimed at toddlers, and had some of the best continuity and subtle messages for early kid’s media. It’s incredibly frustrating and sad to see the franchise being aimed at an increasingly younger audience, all to sell toys and entertain babies, and see beloved characters suffer.
Haven't seen much of those shows, but I agree about...Edward, Patrick Star, Brian Griffin, Skarloey, Rheneas, the Powerpuff Girls, and the "Toddler Titans". Edit: They didn't really make me quit...and I didn't watch Teen Titans, The Powerpuff Girls, Family Guy and SpongeBob SquarePants at the time, but I agree about how awful they have become. And at least Edward is back to his original self, as well as Skarloey and Rheneas.
The thing about Family Guy is: Seth wants the show to end, he’s grown tired of it, and he doesn’t like working for Fox TV anymore (that’s why he moved The Orville to Hulu).
@@Only1Noodle He hasn't written any of the series episodes in a long time. He just does the voices. I think it was mentioned he wanted the series to end at around season 7 (can't remember the source), but Fox wouldn't do so. I think even the writers are recognizing they're running out of ideas and tend to recycle their plots and jokes.
I’d say Bloo’s flanderization was pretty gradual, since he was still likable for the first 2 seasons though he did occasionally have moments where he felt like his old self i.e at the end of Affair weather Friends and Read it and Weap
I think a lot of fan forget that Ben's a teenager not an adult, he's still a kid and to be honest his personality in the first 2 seasons of Alien Force was pretty bland and there was almost nothing left of his original personality, although this was justified given the story line with Max going missing and latter presumed dead and the imminent invasion, and Season 3 overcorrected this and made him insufferable at times but this also made sense as the kind of constant praise he was getting for saving the universe would go to anyone's head, especially a teenager, and the only time his reckless behaver endangered his team was when he overestimated his ability to control GhostFreak and even then his plan worked in the end as he was able to regain control. And after Alien Force, Ultimate Alien and Omniverse does a great job at balancing Ben's more cocky traits with his more serious ones, to quote the Omniverse theme song: "He's a kid and he wants to have fun, But when you need a superhero, he gets the job done!".
This why we all prefer the early seasons and classics of our favorite shows. EDIT: You talked about the cartoon characters, now talk about the anime characters. If you haven't already.
I remember feeling personally disrespected when Teen Titans Go premiered. Although this iteration is more successful, I wish they would’ve just left the characters alone instead of making them parodies of themself.
To me, the main problem with Teen Titans Go is that the target demographic is totally different from the original, yet fans of the original wanted to like it since so many of them spent that time between the shows wanting it back. So when Teen Titans did return as what many would consider an insult to the original, their hatred for it exploded.
@@gurvmlk2 things to remember. 1st when they use a preexisting material they do it in hope of bringing the existing fan base as guaranteed income. 2nd cartoon network didn't choose teen titan out of the blue. They held a vote on several shorts. There were 3 runner up and the titans were selected out if the 3. The short video had a completely different style in animation and story telling. It was faithful to the source material and funny without childish jokes. You can view the short on RUclips look up "new teen titans - turn back the clock". Cartoon network chose new writers and this is what made people angry they vote for a funny new titan show and got the bootleg version AKA the "We have X at home" meme. They could have made all 3 as they all 3 shows as they recieved good scores but only made titans(not surprising as the 2 other had female leads).
@@JayJayM57 Well to #1, that just shows that there's nothing but incompetence running things. Have you the slightest bit of common sense, you can't expect to bring in a pre-existing fan base, and not infuriate them by making such drastic changes.
Seeing this list makes me feel very happy for short-lived shows, especially from Nick themselves. Since Nick tends to rely on popularity over good storytelling, if those shows continued for more seasons but replaced the original writers with those who are less familiar with them, those franchises would have had their popularity completely descend into nothingness to the point where people’s love for them has faded from existence. Yes, this is me being serious after noticing that fans really stopped caring about Fairly OddParents today due to it having the most infamous seasonal rot in cartoon history.
Top 10 Cartoon Character Changes I Hated: 10. Homer Simpson Becomes Jerkass Homer 9. 8. 7. 6. 5. Bloo becomes a completely different character from the pilot. 4. The Teen Titans get rebooted. 3. Patrick Star turns into a selfish, mean spirited, Smart Alec. 2. Peter and Brian Griffin become extremely cruel and manipulative. 1. Ren Hoek becomes an abusive psychopath stripped of all humanity.
Post-Ben 10 Alien Force Season 3 Ben showed me there is nothing more sad than a 16 year-old acting like a 10 year-old. Dwayne McDuffie not being there was _felt._
@Just Some Guy with a Mustache It got even worse in Omniverse especially when they shipped Ben with Kai and the reveal That ben and kai end up getting married and Kenny is their future son Even though in previous seasons of Omniverse the writers were shipping Ben and Ester
Good idea. Webby from Ducktales for example. In the original series, she was a token girl character, who's girly personality wasn't for everyone. But in The Reboot, she was given a more adventurous and aggressive personality, while still being a good ally to Clan McDuck.
@@disneyvillainsfan1666 What about Rigby from Regular Show? In the earliest episodes, he was fairly abrasive, childish, and was once shown to be a high school dropout. In later seasons, he makes a conscious effort to turn his life around, even making it a point to go back to high school and complete his remaining classes. His development is especially apparent when comparing his interactions with Eileen.
Glad to see Watchmojo talk about this show and show the frustrations fans felt about it with how it handled some characters, I never expected to see that.
I'd change Rhombulus for Marco. He grew up as a character in season 2 and finally got Jackie, but in season 3 he became stupid because of a cape and she left him
@@grayshigami6797 hey I'm back and yeah from the anime series Kaguya-Sama Love Is War. I've yet to watch the whole series. And if you don't mind me asking. Have you by any chance watched this anime series called "How Heavy Are The Dumbbells You Lift?"
@@grayshigami6797 it's 1 of my personal favorites of all time. So if you've interested go ahead and watch it. I especially loved the Japanese Dub version.
I would also add Mandy (Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy), she was originally just a anti-hero with sarcastic tendencies, later seasons she was a powerful villain that can destroy reality just by smiling.
Even without Timmy’s character change, the show was already going downhill imo. Half the original cast had disappeared and the majority of the episodes seemed to revolve around Timmy’s Dad,Crocket,or Foop.
What was the best season in your opinion? I think season 2. The finale was sad but it was brilliant seeing tera redeeming herself and bringing down slade
Yeah, Carlin the Comedian did indeed narrate for the show, mainly the US dub (well technically the North American dub), he began narrating for the show in Season 3, and did renarrate Seasons 1 and 2, he finished narrating after finishing Season 4, he was succeeded by another famous person, Alec Baldwin
While Brian's change was frustrating. You also gotta remember that he's very depressed, even a little suicidal. He hooks on to any attention he can get and he hates himself that he wasted the majority of his life.
I quit that show right after the very first episode. When the PPGs can't even fight off monsters and have to be saved by the Mayor, you know they done f***ed up.
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Peggy Hill (King if the Hill)
Candace Flynn (Phineas and Ferb)
Gumball Watterson (The Amazing World of Gumball)
The Titans from Teen Titans Go. I like MANY wants Cartoon Network to CANCEL Teen Titans Go!
Celestia
@@olleselin I agree. She was kind & had patience. Now she is a hot headed douchebag who misstreats Luna & steals the last word & uses the Royal Canterlot Voice at her & is the 1 to use it the last. This is NOT the Celestia i know & love. Also she is pathetic with her fear of chickens.
Patrick Star’s change was absolutely disappointing and upsetting. He went from a kind-hearted doofus to a mean doofus. That made me sad and angry.
I prefer the classic Patrick Star.
@@johavyflores6755 I agree
Same as for Homer
Agreed. I've gotten to where I can't stand the "new" Patrick. I especially hate that episode where he eats Squidward's Kelpie-G tickets for basically no reason. Such a jerk move!
@Ryan Ward for real lol.
I like seeing NON-THOMAS RELATED channels talk about the show in-depth! It makes the show feel more represented!
Also, I would like to mention Henry's character change! He went from a more no-nonsense character to a sniveling COWARD!! Same with Toby!
Yeah, Thomas and Friends should be talked about more often.
I agree
@@disneyvillainsfan1666 definitely
yes
Brian does that over and over. As soon as he gets any money or fame he abandons any semblance of morals, then only apologises and goes back when he’s lost it
Okay go talk to Seth McFarlane then.
Kind of how people really act when they get money and fame.
@@bobthedopeman7327 And they portrayed it really well in the show. I think Brian is the top mature guy in the show after Meg.
Yeah that is a plot line in family guy that gets very repetitive. One of the reasons why I hate family guy now is because it is very repetitive
He was the voice of reason in the early seasons, until the writers turned him into a jerk.
Flanders always was an extremely religious man. Flanderization refers to how a complex character became oversimplified and reduced to an exaggeration of his main traits. Flanders always was extremely religious in every version of the character.
The role was from her wife, maude, when she was killed...
Well, the things gets wrong a lot for the character
One week too early pal
Oh, I get now. Just know. I’m kind of dumb
lol Yeah...I remember Flanders being extremely religious when he threatened to drive over people with his truck.
Exactly what I was about to say
I really appreciate Edward being on this list , his changes in the later model series are so bad , also seeing skarloey and Rheneas on this video
Honestly, out of the entries on all of this channel's various lists, anything Thomas related is pretty obscure!
agreed
@@aliminator1310 I realized that when I was rewatching the HIT era to remember straight and instantly cringed at the Edward and SKR episodes from S7 and 9 to 12...😡😠👎
Hit Entertainment screwed up
@@West_Coast_MainlineDo you think the intentions of the writers of The HIT Era wanted to write the SKR engines as children by how small they are with complete disregards of how they written in previous seasons to aim to a much younger audience?
I’m not surprised that some Thomas characters like: Edward, Skarloey and Rheneas were thrown on the list. Even though Thomas wasn’t a cartoon back then, they’re really good examples of bad character change.
What surprised me is that it ended in 2021
Skarloey literally aged BACKWARDS in the model series.
The Railway Series had him the other way around.
@Nate O'Brien No, they care. That's why they stopped listening to the adults and tried to please the children. But the children also hated it, so...
@CLASS-D Subject D-9341 No, no one rage quit when he became more like Hannibal Lector.
The problem comes from not retaining writing staff. Writers are MORE important than actors.. they tell the story as it unfolds. Replace anyone and the story changes. A generation raised on group projects should understand that concept.
I doubt anyone would continue to watch these shows if the writers were the same and the actors changed
Yes to a point. It’s also having a decent continuity guy to keep things in line so characters are kept to what they’re meant to be or if they’re meant to evolve it’s done over time. Everyone changes in life, people’s personalities will evolve, it’s just getting it done right. Changing writers will not help with that.
@@munkiemedia3323 then why are writers treated so expendable?! Is it due to the stigma of actors in the lime light? Or is it the pressure to crank out episodes quickly?
@@zacharycardon2353 “creative differences” and just changing jobs after contracts. Everyone is expendable to studios, even the show creators. Just look at what happened with Dan Harmon on community.
@@munkiemedia3323 Not sure who that is...
This list: *_exists_*
The writers of each respective shows: Am I out of touch? No, it's the "children" who are wrong.
Tobuo Ghoul
We just don't like those inexperienced/incompetent imbeciles, don't we?
The worst people are those who believe they can do no wrong.
The writers of ben 10 didnt want that change.
To be fair ben 10 change was force by the studio.
Yeah they really threw out all of Timmy Turner’s character development and turned him into a selfish brat with a loud obnoxious squeaky girly voice, he had excepted that one day he would grow up and lose his fairy godparents but this was ruined in the later seasons by twice making it so he never loses them.
Personally, I always thought that Cosmo got the worst change in character from the Fairly Oddparents.
If anything, it's part of the reason why so many consider Channel Chasers to be the _TRUE_ series finale.
@@crystaljon Yep, same opinion as well, lol.
His attitude probably got like that FROM the godparents themselves. Think about it, what kid isnt gonna be bratty if he has two fairies that give him everything he wants?
You do know that Timmy Turner was voiced by a woman, Tara Strong who is much like Mel Blanc was during his time.
Bens transformation didn’t surprise me too much. He went five years without being a hero, then became a hero again and slowly grew cocky over time. He did the same as a kid. All the family guy characters just took a nose dive for me.
Yeah, it kinda makes sense. it's still dissapointing though.
Except it wasn't the writers show. The studio demanded it
Out of all the Total Drama characters Courtney had the worst character derailment out of the whole cast.
Yeah i though the worst was Heather but at least she gets better over Time (or at least less selfish). Friggin Courtney and Alejandro are worse in every way.
@@motor4X4kombat The very worst
Well for most of the OG characters they had the worst treatment in All-Stars, but Courtney was just bad in Action as she was in All-Stars. Plus, even though I think All-Stars is the worst (technically I like the first 3 Episodes and think the rest of the Episodes are just waste of my brain cells) and Pahkitew Island is just underwhelming (like the first 6 Episodes and the rest of the season made ok characters into complete memes) I can still say All-Stars had so much potential, but all of it was (somewhat) ruined when Cartoon Network had more of the saying then what the creators had in mine because this was the actual reason why we got Total DramaRama in the first place.
Duncan cheating on Courtney makes her even crazy
@@Karlebow571 that is very true, but neither side was innocent in this whole love triangle mess. Duncan and Gwen betrayed Courtney’s trust, and Courtney let her paranoia and bossiness drive away those who genuinely cared for her. Which is why I like the love triangle arc in World Tour than most people do.
Bloo’s character change in Foster’s was the one that really triggered me.
It’s why I consider Foster’s Home for Imaginary Friends to be one of the worst animated series I’ve ever seen.
Bloo really feels more like an antagonist than a protagonist.
True that, I hated Bloo after the first season.
@@staticshock4239 Bloo is more the Token Evil Teammate
I don’t know; I find it to be entertaining. Sure, he’s rude and selfish, but once in a while, he learns his lessons.
Ben's personality becoming more like his 10-year old self WAS NOT because of the writers, it was because of the Network(CN) wanting better ratings. Unfortunely for them, the ratings did not increase and Ben kind of stayed the same .
Honestly, what was Cartoon Network thinking reverting teenaged Ben's personality to his cocky 10-year-old self?
Yeah i'm very sick of how they changed Brian's character. I bought every season up to 7 or 8 and barely even watch it at all anymore. Plus the sudden hate relationship between lois and peter
Personally, I love all these shows. But one big complaint I have with Foster home for imaginary friends is Bloo. He is so selfish and mean to everyone, even to friend Mac. He was ok in the first season but as show would progress he gets so bad that I wish Mac would’ve left him. And even with that I doubt he’ll be upset. Now I get what the creator wanted to do with him by making the conflict in most episodes, but not to the point of making him so hateable that even Rigby from regular show looks like a saint compared to him. What makes characters like Rick from Rick and morty or Bojack Horseman great examples of lovable jerks is that yeah they’re jerks but we learn so much about them and given so much layers that it’s pretty hard for me to hate them but instead makes me love and care for them as characters. Bloo is just a jerk for no reason, even when people help him he can be ungrateful. But other than that it’s a good show, could’ve been a masterpiece if it wasn’t for Bloo.
I love Bloo he’s funny
Let's remember something Mac is the one who created Bloo. So somewhere in Mac's mind he's was made from that trait that was inside of Mac. In short the imaginary friends are like the shadows of there creators.
At least Bloo easnt a slob and super gross like a certin SpiderMonkey in middle school
What about Eddy?
@@nicholassims9837 Now, now, let's all agree to pretend that travesty of a show never existed.
I was shouting "What!?" in excitement when I saw Edward. Was not expecting to see my childhood here
Same.
YO SAME
Season 17 did improve him a lot
@@thomaspanditfan2435 And then they wrote him off of the show. And Henry.
So in a nutshell, creators change a character into a complete jerk as an excuse for more writing material.
Yep.
Exactly.
With the Fairly Oddparents, you'd have a hard time finding a major character that wasn't extremely Flanderized. In early episodes, Wanda was a little smarter than Cosmo but was still "half of a whole idiot", Timmy's parents were dense but they still cared about his well-being, and Vicky was evil, but she still feared getting caught/ blamed. In later seasons, Cosmo (somehow) got dumber and more childish, Wanda became the "nag", Timmy's parents wouldn't care if Timmy died right in front of them, and Vicky controlled her parents with an iron fist.
I agree! It stunk that Timmy’s parents became just more and more neglectful I didn’t care about them really much anymore. I hated that even Vicky‘s parents were afraid of her why she never went to jail permanently is beyond me, but the show probably would’ve ended if that happened. I honestly missed Cosmo and Wanda wanting to have fun together instead of Wanda constantly being a nag and Cosmo becoming more and more stupid. I felt really bad that Timmy became more selfish, but despite those things rubbed me the wrong way. I still watch the show for a long time but lost interest mostly after Wishology.
I know right? I remember the episode where Vicky forced Timmy to clean her house because she didn't want to upset her parents. She's a teenager after all so why they turned her into basically a demon in human form that everyone ESPECIALLY her parents fear her makes no sense. She seems to just like to toture kids compared to back then she just often get them to do things she want, much like Angelica did to the babies from Rugrats.
@@zeospark9715 You know a lot of shows on Nickelodeon had a girl like that back then.
Over the past months I’ve been thinking That Vicky should be a Babysitting Scrooge in a Fairly Odd Christmas Carol
I thought Wanda was always a nag
Edward, Skarloey and Rheneas’ portrayals in the Hit Era are the ones I definitely hate the most.
At least they came back in the CGI series
Even though all their characters have been fixed in the child series, they barely appear at all! Mattel deems the Narrow gauge engines un-marketable, and Edward just got tossed to a background cameo character.
It’s really sad when writers get so lazy they take the easy and safe way out
What do you mean? I see it as the exact opposite of being easy and taking it safe. A writer being lazy and safe is keeping the characters exactly the same year after year. Trying to evolve a already well known and loved character is extremely hard and risky.
@@tyrant7583 plus the networks force these shows to continue so eventually they’re gonna pitch whatever crazy idea and it’ll get green lit
@@tyrant7583 there is a difference between evolving a character and just dumbing them down
@@tyrant7583 because teen Titans and teen titans go, are two completely different shows. This list was about characters in one show changing…
@@tyrant7583 you don’t know the difference between character development and just straight dumbing them down and making them completely unrecognizable
As for Ben's derailment in "Alien Force", blame the writers on that.
I read somewhere that they decided to make him act more like his 10 year old version from the OG series, as to appeal to the original audience.
And clearly that worked like they hoped it would.
Not really, Eugene son stated fools gold was retaliation for being denied their season 3 plans; simply by execs to make the show be like the original show, something that has piped up time and time again
I kind of you this personality change in season 3 as him being relieved that the main plot in the first two seasons was finally resolved and that was a major release for him so we can just relax and be himself again
@@angiemontgomery4712 All because sales dropped 5%. But a bean counter is a bean counter, and they will make dumb decisions.
@@angiemontgomery4712 Eugene Son... that dude was so bad he ruined the Saint Seiya Netflix reboot years after working on Ben 10 Alien Force
I know, 2 different shows but both had him as a writer and it clearly shows, especially in Saint Seiya's case where he pissed on the original source material by changing A LOT just to pander to some demographic
What really annoyed me is how they ended ben’s and Julie’s relationship out of nowhere, and in a terrible way as well
Timmy Turner: Yeah I used to feel for this kid earlier on. With the worst parents ever who neglect and do stuff without him, leaving him alone with a psychotic teenage babysitter. But I get after awhile he behaves more selfishly, and his wishes started becoming more dangerous.
Courtney: Personally I never liked her even before she suffered character derailment whenever she didn't get her way.
Bloo: I thought he was good in the pilot movie, but when they decided he was better off as a selfish douche to everyone at Fosters, even to Mac himself he lost my respect. Makes me wonder why Mac would continue to keep coming to Fosters and not let Bloo be someone else's problem.
Patrick Star: I liked him better when he was just a dumb goof, but as Spongebob continued on he became more violent and brain dead stupid. How did this guy get his own show again?
Brian Griffin: Yeah he used to give a damn about people and the Griffins as well, but then they decided to start giving him all these bad traits to make him loathed by the fandom. Granted just about every other character suffered character derailment, but yeah Brian ended up becoming a terrible pet.
The Titans: It doesn't matter that the Titans in this series know they're hated. In fact they act proud to be hated. They make me wish DC cartoons went back to the way they were in the 2000's. Not total comedic relief and only ten minutes long an episode
These Bratty Go Toddler Titans might be self aware that they're hated, but that's still No Excuse for this series to go on and on, and completely overshadow other Superhero Cartoons. I just hope DC gets back on Track when Batman Caped Crusader and My Adventures with Superman come out.
Well, The Powerpuff Girls will have another departure when the CW shits out their "Dark and Gritty" continuation.
don't forget that time Japan made their own take on them, which was also bad
the original is the best, the other series never existed in the eyes of fans lol
@@martinde-serres8724 You’d think an anime powerpuff girls would be awesome
@@georgew1466 that's what I said in case you didn't read my comment
@@martinde-serres8724 I misread it, wasn’t wearing my glasses
I think I'd rather watch the anime than the two reboots.
When I saw Thomas the tank engine original seasons 1-7 one of the characters I loved was Edward since he was the meaning of experience, but when I saw him in the hit era they've turned into a fragile senile who is treated like he's is always weak and not wise
Brings up Courtney
Me: We don’t talk about Ezekiel
Meh, he wasn’t really nice to begin with.
Man I hate how they treated the PPG reboot. Seriously I was so done!
Me too! I hated how that looked and how teen titans go was just getting started back then I know it wasn’t gonna be good after watching a commercial with the lumberjack trying to wreck the hippie Carnaval!
Well, it involved kids twerking sooooo, yeah. Not giving the PPG reboot any of my time
@@DragonGoddess18 And yet it still lasted more than one season. And TTG! is still going! How do these crappy shows continue to exist!? At least Thundercats Roar got cancelled!
@@GrandmasterDevo Part of the reason why I don't give it attention
@@DragonGoddess18 Yeah, the best way to handle a TV show you don't like is to ignore it and move on.
As much as I think that the HiT-Era is overhated and underrated, I will admit that Edward, Skarloey and Rheneas were sometimes handled badly.
"When I grow up I want to be a principal or a caterpillar. I love you Principal Skinner" - Ralph
To be fair, in Fairly Odd Parents, his reasons was that he didn't want to lose them for emotional reasons.
Yea, given the fact that Timmy feels like as if he’s alone.
Yes it's not timmy's fault it was butcher's fault for coming up with the stupid idea of a "special episode"
That episode just breaks all of continuity. Like it's stated in a past episode by Jorgan that all wishes are carefully monitored and they somehow avoided the fact how a secret wish can be slipped by (or even exists to begin with). In short, Butch Hartman butchered his own show. Big time.
I’m not surprised to see Edward on this list.
After everyone discovered the secret wish Timmy made, I’m surprised they didn’t take away his fairies for a month or year. Considering he’s still 10 and yet an adult, taking them away for a month or year would at least teach him a lesson.
couldn't agree with you more
Brian in my opinion has had the biggest character derailment in the entire show
Not to sound messed up, but he should've stayed dead. Bringing him back was clearly a mistake.
@@Only1Noodle that’s not messed up that’s just being honest and I couldn’t agree more
For me the worst has to be Peter. I get that in the beginning he was at best a Homer Simpson knock-off. But over the years he's just chaoticly destructive,all for the sake of thinking what he's doing will be funny. Much like a child breaking something valuable and expecting others will join in on his humor,the less said about how he mistreats his own family the better,we're talking about a guy who injurs or allows harm to befall his own wife for the lols
@@Only1Noodle Brian probably welcomed oblivion but Stewie won't let his personal bitch find respite.
I'd say it's a tie between him and Lois, with Peter following close behind.
Lois used to be a loving, caring mother, but over the years turned into an emotionally abusive, neglectful parent.
The way she treats Meg alone is enough to back that up.
Damn, never knew Thomas and Friends got hit twice
It got hit more times than that. Henry and Toby were kicked off the main cast with Edward.
@@Kukaak Toby still was a part of the cgi series, not in the reboot though.
@@stingky3689 But he wasn't in the main cast anymore
@@Kukaak but he still have lots of leading roles, even in the BWBA era
@@stingky3689 He had one leading role. That's less than Cleo's amount of roles.
Felt good hearing George Carlin as the narrator again.
Fairly odd parents is honestly the one Nickelodeon show that has derailed more then anything else. Even more so then spongebob which is saying a lot. Talk about beating a dead horse…
And at least Spongebob improved itself.
@@turbobist2889 yeah it’s slowly getting better even though nothing will ever match the earlier 3 seasons.
There were many shows that suffered a huge dip in quality due to the absence of their creators, like the aforementioned SpongeBob. But Fairly OddParents is very different, as it is an example of how a show's reputation can largely be ruined even with its creator still on board. Comparing the creators of SpongeBob and FOP especially during their modern era, it seemed like Butch Hartman only cared about his own ego than his audiences. I feel like the reason for SpongeBob improving was because of Stephen Hillenburg's complete loyalty to his fans.
I agree. Say what you want about SpongeBob Squarepants being on the air for a long time, but at least it tries to stay relevant every now and then. But when The Fairly Oddparents got bad, it just kept getting worse and worse.
@@disneyvillainsfan1666 for sure!
I had a thought about the Seymour Skinner one. I think in hindsight, the whole reason that episode existed WAS to parody horribly ret-conned characters in shows where they’ve previously been established as characters.
Think about it, this was after they essentially created the term of “Flanderization” before it was even called that by derailing Flanders character. They were probably already getting feedback for that even then before the internet age, and even though they’ve got the phrase coined in the late 2000’s, flanderization was a thing before the Simpsons(one famous example being the Fonz from Happy Days, another being Steve Urkel in Family matters, although that one worked out better for the show in its case).
As exaggerated as they go with thoroughly removing the character we’ve seen play out on screen for several years up to that point, to the point of almost total erasure of identity (I mean he was a dutiful son to an abusive mother, kind of ridiculous she wouldn’t notice or that he would continue the charade with her for very long instead of just breaking the relationship and not having to do any of that) then basically looking the viewer in the eye and saying “Well nothing changes and everything goes back to how it was and the rest-con was a stupid pointless misadventure for the sake of more episode” it shows in my mind that this information was intentionally disregarded in order to make a joke on how shows will thrash established characters and then keep going on without ever really addressing these changes, acting as if they never happened or things were always like that.
In that context, I think it’s hilarious, and was so ahead of its time(because mind you, Flanderization wasn’t a term back then so there wasn’t necessarily a name put to this trend other than “jumping the shark”, making it difficult to put to name what they were even spoofing). I think the translation between audience and show-runner was lost here, and people took it in the more negative way while the creators didn’t take into account it could end up mattering so much to people. After all, Skinner, although not necessarily a background character, probably seemed inconsequential enough to make him the subject for this joke. It’s not exactly like they were selling as much Skinner merch as they were The Simpson family, Crusty the clown, or even Apu, who was kind of a cultural icon(making the decision to remove him 30 years later even more brain dead and tone-deaf).
This joke would probably play out a lot better now a days where we are more attuned to meta jokes and commentary. It would almost be cliche at this point, but at least even if people didn’t like the joke or how they decided to make it, they would know that there was an intent behind it besides “let’s just needlessly ret-con fake-out people for the sake of adding dumb lore to Skinner’s character.
Ok be honest. Who else was surprised to find out that Timmy’s real name is Timothy and his middle name is Tiberius?
I never knew before.
Same
That doesn't surprise me, he's parents are too stupide ( especially he's father)
I figured that Timmy was short for Timothy. Tiberius though was a ... surprise. Did his parents use their last collective brain cell to come up with that one?
Although I was small when I watched Thomas, can totally agree with all the characters chosen for this list
Spongebob really should've just ended after the movie.
It was supposed to be the movie closing the franchise but how suprised frickin nickelodeon have other plans because of damn demanding!😡
Either that or after season 3.
I'm honestly surprised that only Edward, Skarloey and Rheneas were on this list. In my opinion, its seems like all of the characters have taken a step or two back from what they were back in seasons 1-5
I think Mr. Krabs was the one that angered me so much. In the first three seasons while he still cared about money, he still had a heart. He acted like a second father to Spongebob like when he lost his confidence because he messed up on Bubble Bass' order, he was also like a second father to Patrick, often teaching life lessons and while he argued with Squidward at times, he still cared about him. He was also a cheap but well intentioned father to his daughter Pearl. His rivalry with Plankton was made for comedic effect and not seriously as say that certain episode.
Now, he a just jerk who only cares about money and himself and won't hesitate to go to any lengths to get a single cent and keep it for himself even using his most loyal employee to do so.
Just like Disney
That describes Mr. Jeans only in season 1. Season 2 onwards he’s corporate greed devil.
mr krabs was always a jerk
3:22-4:28 This is what Thomas fans came for.
Either get cancelled as a good show with good characters or live long enough to see yourself become a bad show while ruining your good characters
Die a hero or become a villan.
Teen Titans Go is like Teen Titans from an alternate timeline where the original never got cancelled, but continued on despite the heavy Flanderizations.
Gravity Falls died a good show, while other long-running cartoons such as Simpsons and Family Guy lived long enough to see their popularity deteriorate into nothingness.
I hated what they did to Gwen more then Ben, she was a snarky sharp tongue short hair tomboy. In the sequel she was more girly, didnt look anything like when she was 10, and was suddenly in love with Kevin. I can tell i wasnt the only one since they clearly changed her appearance to look more like the original in later series
At least the sequel was something. In the first few seasons of the reboot she is a joke.
The entire Thomas & Friends cast was basically forgotten after the ousting of Britt Allcroft and the sale of the show to hit entertainment. This lovable show about life on the railway that was loved by young and old was reduced to a show that ONLY kids could enjoy. To be fair, the newer episodes brought back some great writers, but honestly once Britt was gone the reverends vison was gone too.
One that bothered me was character change of Ash Ketchum in Pokémon BW. For two previous series and three regions, Ash was portrayed as experienced, albeit with still some childish tendencies, but his experiences and certain kind of maturity came especially out in comparison with his new travel companions, May and Dawn, who did all those rookie mistakes Ash did in the Original Series and often, it was Ash who corrected them. However, in BW, they reverted him back to his rookie, childish personality he had in OG, taking out all the character development he gained previously. And it didn't work. Even the creators realised that and in XY they tried to change his characterisation back to what it was in AG and DP, but the damage was already done ;-(
Another bothersome character change for me was the change of Takeru/T.K. in Digimon Tri. How could they change this loving, caring boy into an epithome of teen hormones, who will flirt with any girl he meets is still beyond me.
Patrick used to be my favourite on Spongebob........ now he’s unbearable.
SURPRISED TO SEE THOMAS & FRIENDS UP ON HERE! Also Edward was Wise once again in the CGI Series and Edward Strikes Out is one of the Worst Episodes. As for Skarloey and Rheneas, they also turned back to Being Wise in the CGI Series.
Did not expect to see any Thomas & Friends characters but I’m glad I did!
Completely agree! Courtney's character was great in Total Drama Island. But after season 1, her character got VERY annoying!
@ᴄᴏᴜʀᴛɴᴇʏ ᴡʜɪᴛᴍᴏʀᴇ she became a competitive but had morals to someone who would threaten to speak to the cops if McDonald’s doesnt get her order right.
Wait, wasn't Roger smith always like that? Have hayley and francine fight each other, exposing himself as in alien for an article, constantly have the family and stan worried about Roger's antics?
Yeah he was
and people kept watching his antics for 18 seasons now
that show was never funny and Stan is just a selfish jerk as Roger
I've stopped watching the show after its first few seasons and never looked back
yeah tho seems he gets worse with time
No he was not. Originally in the very early episodes he was portrayed as a sarcastic and mischievous alien who had a huge case of canon fever.
@@zeokingsilver *better with time. I fixed that so your tiny mind wouldn’t have to.
Poor Courtney, I feel so bad for her. She didn’t deserve to get derailed like that in Sundae Muddy Sundae. I understand that a lot of people hated her but I feel so bad for her.
Same here.
It was most likely Cartoon Network and Teletoon’s fault for ruining her character.
@@gothikaxenon believe it or not you’re right they forced the writers to break up duncney and Gwent so they could put gwuncan together ruining all 4 characters in the process
@@jackpearce367 I know that.
I watched the behind the scenes videos and asked Fresh TV a few questions about this.
@@gothikaxenon sorry
With Cartoon Networks meddling its like there playing dumb or just playing it safe
Name me anyone that rage quit when Pam on Archer got addicted? The show is one big chaos, thats why the fans love it.
Cocaine Pam was hilarious 😂
I actually like Coke Pam, her character was more developed. Plus, she got better in later seasons, although Dreamland was kinda "meh" for me.
Cocaine Pam was my favorite!!! COCOAINE!! NOM OM NOM
Some fans on Reddit complained that Pam became a very annoying character when she started taking coke. You can look up Pam and her addiction on google
@@daniellewis4154 ahh I see
Finally,Someone Recognizes The Terrible Thomas Changes & Doesn't Tease Us About It
That’s character derailment
The official term is “Flanderization”
Edward is my favourite character ever! I hate how they treated him
I'm so glad im not the only one that's "bitter" about how some of my favorite characters totally went down the drain😭😭😭
Absolutely agree about bloo. I remember liking bloo in the intro movie. Then as early as the first episode, I was wondering "what happened to the lovable miscreant that was loyal to Mac? Now he's a selfish bratty Karen." The final straw for me was Bloo going out of his way to plan multiple birthday parties at once to humiliate Mac, and the fact that he was doing it to Mac for years. He is not a friend
Hard to argue with that list though I think he should’ve also briefly mentioned how Spongebob’s character derailed to becoming even more annoying and happily insane and Mr. Krabs to becoming more self centered and cheap. I’m seriously not kidding. Just watch the first few seasons and then a couple of episodes in the later seasons and you’ll see big flanderization with them.
Dang. They really hit the nail on the head with this list.
I honestly would have said all of them in Thomas and Friends because when the later seasons came most of the characters complain when they don’t get a job they wanted, thinking they know best when in reality they are just showing off and bragging to the other engines, or just causing the accidents by doing something that they know they shouldn’t be doing. At least the CGI series is trying to take a little return to form.
I didn't even know Thomas and Friends existed outside of ShiningTimeStation. I've known about the CGI reboot for years now though.
@@shadowpersonoftheunknown6245 Thomas started out as a series of books which then got made into a British TV show. Shining Time Station was an American TV show created by the British producer of Thomas and Friends to introduce Thomas to the US. In short, STS was a 1980s invention and Thomas dates all the way back to the 1940s.
@ParticularlyGoodFinder no, it was just different views from different companys, at that point, hit just had the characters diffirent
Duncan from total drama, his changes were more outraging than courts. he literally went soft. he was one of the baddest guys out there in the first 3 seasons and then where did that go in season 5???
What about the cosmo and Wanda, his voice had changed very higher and she’s keep being always right about everything for Timmy!
Thank Heavens I'm Not the only one who noticed how annoying Cosmo's voice became!
Cosmo also wasn't completely stupid in the earlier episodes, they made him (and Timmy Turners dad) more stupid over time.
@@dantemustdie00 Funny how they both are played by Daran Norris
@@dantemustdie00 That unfortunately is one of the most common character derailments in cartoons.
I watched the pilot episode for Fairly Oddparents, and Cosmo's voice was completely different than what he sounds like now.
Remember when Lola Bunny became an actual funny character with a memorable personality when she was moved from Space Jam to the 2011's Looney Tunes show? Sure, it was once again ruined in the Space Jam sequel, but it was still a unique example of a poorly written character becoming a new fan favourite. Why can Scrappy Doo get this kind of treatment in a new adaptation? And I'm still hoping Flash Sentry will get a personality and character arch in Pony Life, but that's just a dream.
I honestly never disliked Scrappy Doo. He may have replaced Fred, Daphne, and Velma for a while, but I never found myself hating him. I liked how he wasn't afraid of fighting off against monsters, even if Scooby would pull him away from it. And I agree, if Lola Bunny can get an updated personality, anyone can.
Roger is a fan favourite on American Dad though?? I don't know one person who rage quit because of him becoming more of a sociopath over the seasons, since his character started showing signs of that early on anyway. And honestly his unstableness is one of the biggest comedic highlights because of how absurd he can be
I like that about Roger. He's always been selfish since the beginning. He's just more selfish.
I rage quitted over that. Roger was being slowly stripped of all his redeeming qualities ever since Frannie 911, which completely destroyed his character flexibility by revealing he has to be bad or die. Frannie 911 was a horrible episode that set Roger’s derailment into motion as the writers were just hellbent on making Roger completely despicable
@@daniellewis4154 well you are in a very small minority my friend, that episode actually gave a solid reason as to why he was acting like a jerk in the beginning, which means he doesn't act so selfish and horrible for no good reason and mostly only does it because it kills him if he bottles his bithciness up and acts nice. In fact it makes it so much more meaningful when he does good deeds with no ulterior motivations; he is sacrificing his own health just to redeem himself and help others. It's actually almost everyone else in the Smith family has been completely derailed and made to be as despicable as possible FOR NO GOOD REASON, excluding Klaus and Jeff as they are the victims of the family's abuse and sadistic antics.
Yeah, I feel like the characters more so became stable as opposed to being Flanderized. I am of the opinion that it’s an improvement but given that the show had to move channels to survive, I know that it dropped in the ratings over the years.
But like I said, that condition Roger had only destroyed his character flexibility just to bring back status quo. That condition has never been seen or mentioned again. Plus love ad style has been deemed one of the worst episodes in the series by fans because of how badly Roger was derailed. That condition is just an excuse for the writers to go ahead with flanderizing Roger
"Family Guy" really got hit hard with flanderization as the years passed. Putting Brian aside, Peter became a psychotic narcissist, Lois a cheating, shrill bully, Cleveland and Joe the butt of race/cripple-related jokes, Meg pretty much Quahog's whipping girl, and Stewie a flamboyant metrosexual with an obvious crush on Brian. There's more than that, but those are probably the most prominant examples in addition to Brian.
Family Guy feels like the characters originally only had depth because the writers weren't yet sure which singular note they wanted for each, and so gave them broader personalities to experiment with what might work for each. Once they figured it out, they narrowed it down until each character became unrealistically generic.
Yes the rampant character derailment and Flanderization of most of the characters on family Guy was a very serious problem. American Dad also had that same problem down the line too
@@daniellewis4154 Difference being that American Dad (I feel) manages to not only make the characters more charming despite that, but such changes feel more like appropriate exaggerations of what they originally were rather than the characters just being outright changed.
But that does not give American dad the right to let the Flanderization and character derailment problem to continue existing on the show
@@daniellewis4154 Indeed. I'm not supporting that problem. Just saying that I believe it's worse in Family Guy.
I kinda feel that the changes on Edward being a feeble old-timer with confidence issues was to relate to Thomas fans with ASD who’ve been yelled at by their parents
As someone who has ASD, I get where your going with that, but it still doesn’t excuse how ruined his character was in seasons 8-12.
It’s nice to see Thomas characters get mentioned. It’s weird to think about now, but the original books and series weren’t aimed at toddlers, and had some of the best continuity and subtle messages for early kid’s media.
It’s incredibly frustrating and sad to see the franchise being aimed at an increasingly younger audience, all to sell toys and entertain babies, and see beloved characters suffer.
3:22 and 12:07 The Rev. Awdry would be so disappointed.
In case of Bloo as a "person" he was horrible, as a character I liked him and he usually got what he deserved.
I did not expect Edward, Skarloey and Rheneas to make an appearance on this.
Haven't seen much of those shows, but I agree about...Edward, Patrick Star, Brian Griffin, Skarloey, Rheneas, the Powerpuff Girls, and the "Toddler Titans".
Edit: They didn't really make me quit...and I didn't watch Teen Titans, The Powerpuff Girls, Family Guy and SpongeBob SquarePants at the time, but I agree about how awful they have become. And at least Edward is back to his original self, as well as Skarloey and Rheneas.
I never expected Skarloey and Edward in this list!
and rheneas
The thing about Family Guy is: Seth wants the show to end, he’s grown tired of it, and he doesn’t like working for Fox TV anymore (that’s why he moved The Orville to Hulu).
Wasn't he a writer for the first few seasons of Family Guy?
@@Only1Noodle He hasn't written any of the series episodes in a long time. He just does the voices. I think it was mentioned he wanted the series to end at around season 7 (can't remember the source), but Fox wouldn't do so. I think even the writers are recognizing they're running out of ideas and tend to recycle their plots and jokes.
@@SamuraiGirl02 As well as become too dependent on cutaway jokes.
@@zacharycardon2353 The biggest reason I hate Family Guy.
I’d say Bloo’s flanderization was pretty gradual, since he was still likable for the first 2 seasons though he did occasionally have moments where he felt like his old self i.e at the end of Affair weather Friends and Read it and Weap
I wish Henry from Thomas was in this he went from being a angry character to Easley scared in 1 season good to see Edward on here
I think a lot of fan forget that Ben's a teenager not an adult, he's still a kid and to be honest his personality in the first 2 seasons of Alien Force was pretty bland and there was almost nothing left of his original personality, although this was justified given the story line with Max going missing and latter presumed dead and the imminent invasion, and Season 3 overcorrected this and made him insufferable at times but this also made sense as the kind of constant praise he was getting for saving the universe would go to anyone's head, especially a teenager, and the only time his reckless behaver endangered his team was when he overestimated his ability to control GhostFreak and even then his plan worked in the end as he was able to regain control. And after Alien Force, Ultimate Alien and Omniverse does a great job at balancing Ben's more cocky traits with his more serious ones, to quote the Omniverse theme song: "He's a kid and he wants to have fun, But when you need a superhero, he gets the job done!".
Brian used to be the heart of family guy 😭💔
He used to be my favorite.
Stewie and Brian were my favorites. Now I can't stand 1 minute watching new Family Guy" episodes
I'll be honest, I went crazy when Edward came up, cuz I'm a big TTTE fan
I expected Thomas to be on the list but with Edward in the Hit era is understandable
As a TTTE fan, I was really disappointed at how Edward was represented in the HIT era and this is the engine that started the whole series!
Me too. It was the inner child within me coming out to cheer
OMG! I hated the tv Bloo. He was such an uncaring ass, most of the time.
I hated Bloo and the asshole bunny butler. They were both the biggest douchebags in the show.
I laughed every time he got hurt or didn't get his way.😆
That bunny butler is named Mr. Herriman
@@theryumancer9639 watch yo profanity
@@NWCi24.mp4
"I don't use profanity! I use curse words, goddammit!!". 😤 lol
This video is depressing as hell.
This why we all prefer the early seasons and classics of our favorite shows.
EDIT: You talked about the cartoon characters, now talk about the anime characters. If you haven't already.
Thomas s17 to 21: are we a joke to you?
FINALLY! Somebody who understands how godawful Bloo was after the pilot.
I remember feeling personally disrespected when Teen Titans Go premiered. Although this iteration is more successful, I wish they would’ve just left the characters alone instead of making them parodies of themself.
To me, the main problem with Teen Titans Go is that the target demographic is totally different from the original, yet fans of the original wanted to like it since so many of them spent that time between the shows wanting it back. So when Teen Titans did return as what many would consider an insult to the original, their hatred for it exploded.
@@gurvmlk2 things to remember.
1st when they use a preexisting material they do it in hope of bringing the existing fan base as guaranteed income.
2nd cartoon network didn't choose teen titan out of the blue. They held a vote on several shorts. There were 3 runner up and the titans were selected out if the 3. The short video had a completely different style in animation and story telling. It was faithful to the source material and funny without childish jokes. You can view the short on RUclips look up "new teen titans - turn back the clock". Cartoon network chose new writers and this is what made people angry they vote for a funny new titan show and got the bootleg version AKA the "We have X at home" meme. They could have made all 3 as they all 3 shows as they recieved good scores but only made titans(not surprising as the 2 other had female leads).
@@JayJayM57 Well to #1, that just shows that there's nothing but incompetence running things. Have you the slightest bit of common sense, you can't expect to bring in a pre-existing fan base, and not infuriate them by making such drastic changes.
Funny how Teen Titans go and all engines go have similar titles and hated by everyone.
They probably should have just used a different superhero team in general.
Love the Thomas representation. Henry, Rusty, and Toby are other examples of beloved character flanderization.
Seeing this list makes me feel very happy for short-lived shows, especially from Nick themselves. Since Nick tends to rely on popularity over good storytelling, if those shows continued for more seasons but replaced the original writers with those who are less familiar with them, those franchises would have had their popularity completely descend into nothingness to the point where people’s love for them has faded from existence. Yes, this is me being serious after noticing that fans really stopped caring about Fairly OddParents today due to it having the most infamous seasonal rot in cartoon history.
Top 10 Cartoon Character Changes I Hated:
10. Homer Simpson Becomes Jerkass Homer
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5. Bloo becomes a completely different character from the pilot.
4. The Teen Titans get rebooted.
3. Patrick Star turns into a selfish, mean spirited, Smart Alec.
2. Peter and Brian Griffin become extremely cruel and manipulative.
1. Ren Hoek becomes an abusive psychopath stripped of all humanity.
Post-Ben 10 Alien Force Season 3 Ben showed me there is nothing more sad than a 16 year-old acting like a 10 year-old. Dwayne McDuffie not being there was _felt._
@Just Some Guy with a Mustache
It got even worse in Omniverse especially when they shipped Ben with Kai and the reveal That ben and kai end up getting married and Kenny is their future son
Even though in previous seasons of Omniverse the writers were shipping Ben and Ester
We rage quit but we return. We love these.
Me: what’s number 1?
When i see number 1: I should have known
What about some Cartoon Character Changes that made fans love the show even more?
That would be a good list! 👍
Good idea. Webby from Ducktales for example. In the original series, she was a token girl character, who's girly personality wasn't for everyone. But in The Reboot, she was given a more adventurous and aggressive personality, while still being a good ally to Clan McDuck.
@@disneyvillainsfan1666 What about Rigby from Regular Show? In the earliest episodes, he was fairly abrasive, childish, and was once shown to be a high school dropout. In later seasons, he makes a conscious effort to turn his life around, even making it a point to go back to high school and complete his remaining classes. His development is especially apparent when comparing his interactions with Eileen.
@@nateobrien354 Yeah, Rigby would be a great contender for the list.
Glad to see Watchmojo talk about this show and show the frustrations fans felt about it with how it handled some characters, I never expected to see that.
I'd change Rhombulus for Marco. He grew up as a character in season 2 and finally got Jackie, but in season 3 he became stupid because of a cape and she left him
I really like your anime profile pic by the way.
@@joelcartagena953 Hayasaka is best girl
@@grayshigami6797 hey I'm back and yeah from the anime series Kaguya-Sama Love Is War. I've yet to watch the whole series. And if you don't mind me asking. Have you by any chance watched this anime series called "How Heavy Are The Dumbbells You Lift?"
@@joelcartagena953 No, I haven't watched that one
@@grayshigami6797 it's 1 of my personal favorites of all time. So if you've interested go ahead and watch it. I especially loved the Japanese Dub version.
I would also add Mandy (Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy), she was originally just a anti-hero with sarcastic tendencies, later seasons she was a powerful villain that can destroy reality just by smiling.
I would add Chloe from miraculous ladybug
After Cloe arrived in the last season of the Fairly Odd Parents, Timmy became the biggest brat ever. My opinion.
Even without Timmy’s character change, the show was already going downhill imo. Half the original cast had disappeared and the majority of the episodes seemed to revolve around Timmy’s Dad,Crocket,or Foop.
The Titans were definitely the worst. The old one was a classic with real emotion and action. But the kids seem to like Go so 🤷🏾♂️🙄 money talks
That's the target audience. So yeah they throw in things for adults in the background. I personally find it funny
What was the best season in your opinion? I think season 2. The finale was sad but it was brilliant seeing tera redeeming herself and bringing down slade
@@loucar10 Mine was season 4, the whole thing with Trygon and Slade working together was amazing
@@loucar10 I'd probs go with season 2 as well. Love the Terra and Slade episodes.
I never realized George Carlin was a voice on Thomas the tank engine
You mean all and also the narrator
US version of Series 1-4.
Ringo Star also had that job for a season or two.
The UK dub was better though
Yeah, Carlin the Comedian did indeed narrate for the show, mainly the US dub (well technically the North American dub), he began narrating for the show in Season 3, and did renarrate Seasons 1 and 2, he finished narrating after finishing Season 4, he was succeeded by another famous person, Alec Baldwin
While Brian's change was frustrating. You also gotta remember that he's very depressed, even a little suicidal. He hooks on to any attention he can get and he hates himself that he wasted the majority of his life.
When the gif of the Power Puff Girls twerking was first being circulated, I felt my rib cage concave from cringe
I quit that show right after the very first episode. When the PPGs can't even fight off monsters and have to be saved by the Mayor, you know they done f***ed up.