What can one say except incredible. I've read a bit about the "Night Witches" in various histories, but have never had such an in depth lecture. Elizabeth's book is now a must read for me, so I have placed an order already. After I read it I will pass it on to one of the young people I know and encourage them to do the same. I have not been so pleasantly instructed in a long time by a brilliant and lovely person as Ms. Wein. Good luck with more great books!
I searched on Elizabeth's name an did not realize what a celebrated and well know author she is. I loved I learned about her here on WW2TV, another great discovery. Your talk and knowledge was so well done Elizabeth, and brought the Thousand Sisters to life. What brave souls. I bought the audio book Star Wars: The Last Jedi: Cobalt Squadron, narrated by Kelly Marie Tran. Well. The age range is for 8-12. I decided to listen to the 4 minute sample. It was completely intriguing and ageless. Maybe because I was a huge Star Wars fan back in the day, but loving it and easy on the ears. Kelly Marie Tran, a Vietnamese American actor, was horribly trolled and hounded on social media, by mostly men who hated she was a main character in the Star Wars The Last Jedi. She left social media it was so brutal. You think things change, but they in so many ways remain the same. Harassment of an Asian American woman who was not the typical rubber stamp starlet, for playing a fictional character? Head scratching. Thanks Elizabeth and Paul.
Elizabeth's enthusiasm came through strongly on this presentation, and she enthralled an 'old crusty' (WW2TV terminology). I hope she enthrals the younger generation just as much.
Maybe my question should have been about women's involvement on the Eastern front and game changing. From my readings many historians think it may have been, but it is a subjective matter, and I agree with you Woody, that no element had a greater part than any other...Great presentation full of enthusiasm.
I am in playback land because I tried to join the live but for some reason my internet was sketchy. I really am enjoying this video, I was so hoping somebody would talk about the subject because i read a book from a Soviet women Pilot. Very hard to find information out about history on the other side of the Iron Curtain sometimes. I read the book over fields of Fire it was a very good book. I just bought a book that you're talking about in this video there's so much to learn. Thank you again for a great video and your guest was super cool and so enthusiastic❤
Superb narration; entertaining and enlightening. Amazing courage, skill and intellect of these Flyers that deserves the attention given them by Ms. Wein here on this @WW2TV Channel and in her Book. Bravo!
Hi Liam, if Audrey also wrote non-fiction I would contact her, but I try and limit my invites to only authors who have a solid historical base to their work
@@WW2TV Shame. But if you read the book you might see what I mean. It's a stark , brutal and detached account of conditions on the front and back in Germany. It's obviously well researched and grounded in the historiography. Quite a book. Should be more well known. Most war history buffs, especially of the eastern front variety would find it an interesting read. I'd have to say as a war novel I haven't read anything quite like it . I think she'd make a good guest in regards of how she researched the history and her own views on the subject. I've been pleading with another ww2 podcaster to see if he could organise an interview but without success. Read the book.
I get your point, but you should see the list of historians I have waiting to come on. it sounds like a fab book but an interview would be better suited to a literary channel I think
@@WW2TV still think it's a shame.I think she's would make a valuable contribution to any war history show. . I know you have a big work load but if I had a magic wand I'd make you sacrifice a few hours to make room for " The Undertaking".
loved that presentation. One slither of critique though: what's "soviet" about soldiers having a uniformal appearence that includes the haircut? Soldiers are soldiers. Female or no - you're in the military.
The reason for the haircuts, men or women, is so you don't have to waste time taking care of your hair. The uniformity of appearance and subsuming your individuality are a key part of the transition from the civilian world to military life. Russian women's units in WWI got brush cuts.
@@WW2TV But those armies didn't get their butts kicked for a thousand miles by the Wehrmacht. Hung together long enough to figure out how to beat them after losing several times more people than most armies would survive. Finally drove them back more than a thousand miles, to the enemy capital, at a cost winning that would break most armies. You can't fault their methods without an alternative model that successfully faced a similar trial. Forgot to say in the original comment, very engaging speaker. Looking forward to her next appearance.
I open a door for a woman. Is that chivalry or chauvinism? Women and children first in the lifeboats, or is it every man for himself? These volunteer Soviet women pilots were extraordinary heroines as were the female Soviet snipers and also wonderful propaganda for Stalin as these women mouthed the Soviet propaganda their Constitution guaranteed equality between the sexes. Pure pap. In the face of the existential threat the Nazis posed, the Soviets (Stalin) nonetheless, openly and notoriously violated their Constitution, it being a complete fiction men and women were equal. Stalin never once conscripted women for combat. Such conscription of women as there was, was limited to non-combat roles. Truly, the Night Witches were heroines. They volunteered.
I'm 69 years old and do volunteer work that often involves carrying 40 pound loads around. Often young women volunteers try to take to load for me. I usually decline and tell them, "I'm old, but I'm not feeble."
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I now have a much better understanding of women Soviet combat pilots during WW2. Very interesting presentation.
What can one say except incredible. I've read a bit about the "Night Witches" in various histories, but have never had such an in depth lecture. Elizabeth's book is now a must read for me, so I have placed an order already. After I read it I will pass it on to one of the young people I know and encourage them to do the same. I have not been so pleasantly instructed in a long time by a brilliant and lovely person as Ms. Wein. Good luck with more great books!
What lovely words David. I love bringing a variety of guests to the channel
Well said David, you really have a way of expressing things.
@@philbosworth3789 Thank you Phil. You are too kind by far. It's probably the Frenchman in me; we've always been a rather talkative tribe. 🗣
@@WW2TV I'll do my best to enlist some younger viewers when I can.
The more comments the better, but it is even better when they are meaningful and insightful
I searched on Elizabeth's name an did not realize what a celebrated and well know author she is. I loved I learned about her here on WW2TV, another great discovery. Your talk and knowledge was so well done Elizabeth, and brought the Thousand Sisters to life. What brave souls. I bought the audio book Star Wars: The Last Jedi: Cobalt Squadron, narrated by Kelly Marie Tran. Well. The age range is for 8-12. I decided to listen to the 4 minute sample. It was completely intriguing and ageless. Maybe because I was a huge Star Wars fan back in the day, but loving it and easy on the ears. Kelly Marie Tran, a Vietnamese American actor, was horribly trolled and hounded on social media, by mostly men who hated she was a main character in the Star Wars The Last Jedi. She left social media it was so brutal. You think things change, but they in so many ways remain the same. Harassment of an Asian American woman who was not the typical rubber stamp starlet, for playing a fictional character? Head scratching. Thanks Elizabeth and Paul.
Elizabeth's enthusiasm came through strongly on this presentation, and she enthralled an 'old crusty' (WW2TV terminology). I hope she enthrals the younger generation just as much.
Yep, fellow Old Crusty here, she was excellent
Fantastic presentation by Elizabeth. Great detail and research. Many thanks
Yet another wonderful presentation.
Maybe my question should have been about women's involvement on the Eastern front and game changing. From my readings many historians think it may have been, but it is a subjective matter, and I agree with you Woody, that no element had a greater part than any other...Great presentation full of enthusiasm.
Really enjoyed this one....
I am in playback land because I tried to join the live but for some reason my internet was sketchy. I really am enjoying this video, I was so hoping somebody would talk about the subject because i read a book from a Soviet women Pilot. Very hard to find information out about history on the other side of the Iron Curtain sometimes. I read the book over fields of Fire it was a very good book. I just bought a book that you're talking about in this video there's so much to learn. Thank you again for a great video and your guest was super cool and so enthusiastic❤
Thank you, and yes, anyone who gets yo write a Star Wars book is cool
@@WW2TV totally😀
Superb narration; entertaining and enlightening. Amazing courage, skill and intellect of these Flyers that deserves the attention given them by Ms. Wein here on this @WW2TV Channel and in her Book. Bravo!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Good stuff. 👍 👍
Very interesting mate
Would love to see you interview Audrey Magee about her book " The Undertaking".
Hi Liam, if Audrey also wrote non-fiction I would contact her, but I try and limit my invites to only authors who have a solid historical base to their work
@@WW2TV Shame. But if you read the book you might see what I mean. It's a stark , brutal and detached account of conditions on the front and back in Germany. It's obviously well researched and grounded in the historiography. Quite a book. Should be more well known. Most war history buffs, especially of the eastern front variety would find it an interesting read. I'd have to say as a war novel I haven't read anything quite like it . I think she'd make a good guest in regards of how she researched the history and her own views on the subject. I've been pleading with another ww2 podcaster to see if he could organise an interview but without success. Read the book.
I get your point, but you should see the list of historians I have waiting to come on. it sounds like a fab book but an interview would be better suited to a literary channel I think
@@WW2TV still think it's a shame.I think she's would make a valuable contribution to any war history show. . I know you have a big work load but if I had a magic wand I'd make you sacrifice a few hours to make room for " The Undertaking".
loved that presentation. One slither of critique though: what's "soviet" about soldiers having a uniformal appearence that includes the haircut? Soldiers are soldiers. Female or no - you're in the military.
Let's not forget the female snipers like Roza Shanina.
Which we covered in a separate show, which I mentioned a few times George ruclips.net/user/live5OduoZk0Nmk?feature=share
It was Lydia Litvyak, not Lylia Litvyak. Her name in Russian is Лидия, Lydia or maybe Lydiya.
Lydia Vladimirovna Litvyak, also known as Lilya. Even Soviet sources say so
Lilya is an abbreviated name. Like Lizzie for Elisabeth.
ruclips.net/video/Qpt5CCiE2a4/видео.html , the movie referenced at 1:07
The reason for the haircuts, men or women, is so you don't have to waste time taking care of your hair. The uniformity of appearance and subsuming your individuality are a key part of the transition from the civilian world to military life. Russian women's units in WWI got brush cuts.
Yes, except that many armies judt accepted a shorter haircut, not the practically shaved look the Soviets went for
@@WW2TV But those armies didn't get their butts kicked for a thousand miles by the Wehrmacht. Hung together long enough to figure out how to beat them after losing several times more people than most armies would survive. Finally drove them back more than a thousand miles, to the enemy capital, at a cost winning that would break most armies. You can't fault their methods without an alternative model that successfully faced a similar trial. Forgot to say in the original comment, very engaging speaker. Looking forward to her next appearance.
Good point
"Women are not interested in aircraft types" 😡 just me then?
An incredible presentation by Elizabeth. These Soviet women aviators did a tremendous job for their country.
I open a door for a woman. Is that chivalry or chauvinism? Women and children first in the lifeboats, or is it every man for himself? These volunteer Soviet women pilots were extraordinary heroines as were the female Soviet snipers and also wonderful propaganda for Stalin as these women mouthed the Soviet propaganda their Constitution guaranteed equality between the sexes. Pure pap. In the face of the existential threat the Nazis posed, the Soviets (Stalin) nonetheless, openly and notoriously violated their Constitution, it being a complete fiction men and women were equal. Stalin never once conscripted women for combat. Such conscription of women as there was, was limited to non-combat roles. Truly, the Night Witches were heroines. They volunteered.
I'm 69 years old and do volunteer work that often involves carrying 40 pound loads around. Often young women volunteers try to take to load for me. I usually decline and tell them, "I'm old, but I'm not feeble."