Oh So Sharp must be the best filly of the last 30 or so years trained in the UK. To win the guineas against class opposition, trounce a proven group 1 performer in Triptych in the Oaks who proved herself over and over again a top middle distance filly on soft ground, which this oaks was run on. To then have enough stamina to win a Leger makes her quite remarkable. Cauthen said she was the best fully he rode and he blamed himself for her defeat in the King George on unsuitable ground. To do it once is fab but to do it over and over again is what earns the real respect. What could she have done as a four year Old? Her early season form at 3 was exceptional.
Oh So Sharp remains our last triple crown winner while Nijinsky in 1970 was the last to win the colts version. Flat racing had more credibility then; without the multitude of group 1 races at 8 & 10 furlongs, top class horses had to prove themselves over a variety of distances.
You don't know what you're on about. Are you trying to say they didn't have equally the number of Group 1 races over 8 & 10f back in the 70's? Breeders don't want St Leger winners these days, well not unless they want a NH sire. Top class horses still have to prove themselves over a variety of distances, it increases their stud value 8-12f is where the money is.
To be fair Steve has said he thinks OSS should have been unbeaten. He blames the rock hard ground they encountered at Ascot and bottomless ground at York.
Fantastic horse - irrelevant which one was the best - there are too many and I only back them; I don't train them or ride them. James Delahooke (he found Dancing Brave) once told me the best horse he had seen was Dancing Brave (including Secretariat, Brigadier Gerard, Mill Reef etc) until Frankel turned up.
Geoff Lewis said at the end of 86 sea bird was the best he'd seen but frankel obviously wasn't around then. Lester Piggot says the best two he's seen are Ribot and Sea Bird thats including Frankel
GG missed the call in the Guineas: you can hear the surprise in his voice when he sees the freeze frame. The funny thing about OSS's triple crown was that the race against the colts was the one with the weakest field.
@@fckem1000 In fact many winners of the first two legs of the British Classic nowadays have been pretty reluctant to run in the St Leger mainly because of the commercial reasons on breeding industry.
Triptych was ok but lost out to the very best like oh so sharp, dancing brave and reference point. 1987 was her best year though. Coronation cup, international stakes, Irish and English champion stakes.
I think oh so sharp was slightly overated, just won the guineas and although impressive in the oaks lost next 2 races before winning a sub standard St leger. I think pebbles was a better filly personally.
Under rated but definitely not over rated. She is largely forgotten and yet she was a triple crown winner. However good pebbles was, and she put up some exceptional performances, she didn't win a triple crown. Oh so sharp never raced after three and her two defeats at three were both on ground that was against her in races that cauthen blamed himself for her getting beaten. If she had raced at four I think we would have seen some outstanding performances. How far did she best triptych in the oaks on ground that favoured triptych? Triptych is a very good yardstick as well as a long proven top filly. Pebbles failed to perform at a high level in many races. Oh so sharp didn't. Interestingly they are both related. Sharpen up is the sire of pebbles and the sire of Kris, the sire of oh so sharp! I don't think there was much between the two and they are both great fillies but I do come down in favour of oh so sharp, in line with cauthen and there is absolutely no way she is over rated!
Yes OSS won triple crown but pebbles ws 1st filly to ever win the Eclipse and sge was the first filly from Europe to win breeders Cup turf which was 12f
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It was the first time I'd ever been to a racecourse I was 19 at the time..absolutely brilliant 👏 the golden years.
Oh So Sharp is my all time favourite such a class act
Uncle Henry one of the greatest trainers to grace the hallowed turf the good old days ❤🐕👌
Oh So Sharp must be the best filly of the last 30 or so years trained in the UK. To win the guineas against class opposition, trounce a proven group 1 performer in Triptych in the Oaks who proved herself over and over again a top middle distance filly on soft ground, which this oaks was run on. To then have enough stamina to win a Leger makes her quite remarkable. Cauthen said she was the best fully he rode and he blamed himself for her defeat in the King George on unsuitable ground. To do it once is fab but to do it over and over again is what earns the real respect. What could she have done as a four year Old? Her early season form at 3 was exceptional.
Don't forget ... Pebbles ... She was England's super filly ... but there are other including Enable
@@jeanlawley6483 Enable‘s Long-distance capability is unknown since Enable never runs st lager.
What a treat to watch this again - thanks.
Jesus, how many superb national hunt sires in that field!!!?
I was at Doncaster for the St Leger & Oh So Sharp was a great filly & Steve Cauthen is one of the best jockeys I’ve seen.
Steve cauthen had a clock work in his brain,& Henry Cecil to be the first traiiner to win a 1million k in one season is remarkable
No doubt about it,THE KENTUCKY KID
Loved Triptych..I'm a jump racing fan, but Triptych was something special :))
Couldn't agree more. I think Triptych was even better in the 86 season
Some great horses there .
Oh So Sharp remains our last triple crown winner while Nijinsky in 1970 was the last to win the colts version. Flat racing had more credibility then; without the multitude of group 1 races at 8 & 10 furlongs, top class horses had to prove themselves over a variety of distances.
You don't know what you're on about. Are you trying to say they didn't have equally the number of Group 1 races over 8 & 10f back in the 70's? Breeders don't want St Leger winners these days, well not unless they want a NH sire. Top class horses still have to prove themselves over a variety of distances, it increases their stud value 8-12f is where the money is.
Nijinsky is also an undefeated triple crown
Steve cauthen, Clockwork
Bravo Steve Cauthen
Steve Cauthen number one forever
"Just over 2f to go and filly goes for home..."
Triptych was a good horse and Oh So Sharp left her in the dust.
To be fair Steve has said he thinks OSS should have been unbeaten. He blames the rock hard ground they encountered at Ascot and bottomless ground at York.
Loved this filly. Was gutted when she lost the King George by Petoski.
I actually got hooked on racing from that race.. I ws 10 and my heart pumped so hard for her!
Fantastic horse - irrelevant which one was the best - there are too many and I only back them; I don't train them or ride them. James Delahooke (he found Dancing Brave) once told me the best horse he had seen was Dancing Brave (including Secretariat, Brigadier Gerard, Mill Reef etc) until Frankel turned up.
Geoff Lewis said at the end of 86 sea bird was the best he'd seen but frankel obviously wasn't around then. Lester Piggot says the best two he's seen are Ribot and Sea Bird thats including Frankel
GG missed the call in the Guineas: you can hear the surprise in his voice when he sees the freeze frame. The funny thing about OSS's triple crown was that the race against the colts was the one with the weakest field.
Which is always the case for the St Leger.
@@fckem1000 In fact many winners of the first two legs of the British Classic nowadays have been pretty reluctant to run in the St Leger mainly because of the commercial reasons on breeding industry.
Steve cauthen greatest American jockey ♥️🐕👍
No better Jockey on a front runner could judge the pace of a race better than anyone
What a,hoss
yes
Cau then won 4 out of the 5 classics that year.
Which one did he not?
@@thomasgreen3082 L. Piggott on Shadeed
SC was riding her as if this was further than a mile. He was lucky. Should have made more use of her
Oh So Sharp didn't like being in front too long.
Triptych was ok but lost out to the very best like oh so sharp, dancing brave and reference point. 1987 was her best year though. Coronation cup, international stakes, Irish and English champion stakes.
I think she actually finished ahead of reference point in one race. might have been the 87 arc. I can't remember without checking
In the arc Reference Point finished lame, he had an abscess on his foot, so you can discount that run.
she beat Triptych 3 times, same as Dancing Brave and she beat her further, DB slightly over rated, OSS vastly under rated
I think oh so sharp was slightly overated, just won the guineas and although impressive in the oaks lost next 2 races before winning a sub standard St leger. I think pebbles was a better filly personally.
Both were exceptional, and won great races. For what it's worth, Cauthen rode both, and he rated OSS as the best filly he ever rode.
Under rated but definitely not over rated. She is largely forgotten and yet she was a triple crown winner. However good pebbles was, and she put up some exceptional performances, she didn't win a triple crown. Oh so sharp never raced after three and her two defeats at three were both on ground that was against her in races that cauthen blamed himself for her getting beaten.
If she had raced at four I think we would have seen some outstanding performances. How far did she best triptych in the oaks on ground that favoured triptych? Triptych is a very good yardstick as well as a long proven top filly.
Pebbles failed to perform at a high level in many races. Oh so sharp didn't.
Interestingly they are both related. Sharpen up is the sire of pebbles and the sire of Kris, the sire of oh so sharp!
I don't think there was much between the two and they are both great fillies but I do come down in favour of oh so sharp, in line with cauthen and there is absolutely no way she is over rated!
Hmm
Not over a mile and a half she wasn't.
Yes OSS won triple crown but pebbles ws 1st filly to ever win the Eclipse and sge was the first filly from Europe to win breeders Cup turf which was 12f
awful commentary from both commentators. Al Bahathri not mentioned through the first half mile and GG didn't mention OSS in finish...disgraceful
Really bad commentary for the 1,000
Yes certainly not one of better days
@@EddieCr I grew up with Goode and he was usually spot on, but with this race not so much.