2024 Ford Ranger Raptor vs GMC Canyon AT4X: Which Is The Real Killer Off-Roader?

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    ( www.alltfl.com ) Watch more videos from TFL Studios! As spring gives way to summer, we're finally able to do some awesome off-roading in the Colorado Rockies, with Andre and Nathan taking along what are arguably two of the best trucks for the task: the 2024 Ford Ranger Raptor and 2024 GMC Canyon AT4X AEV. But which one is BEST?
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  • @TFLoffroad
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    • @jgelliot
      @jgelliot 2 дня назад +9

      Yikes

    • @JustSomeGuyAroundTown
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    • @diltzm
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      Better Hell is a $hitty service that preys upon people when they need help the most.

  • @chownzi2461
    @chownzi2461 2 дня назад +31

    Andre drove right into the snow bank when he could've taken a different line and made it

  • @outcast1sub7
    @outcast1sub7 2 дня назад +23

    For the complaint about hood sticks, I much rather have a hood stick than the alternative. They don't break.

    • @rockymountainjazzfan1822
      @rockymountainjazzfan1822 2 дня назад +2

      I fully agree. You seldom see a failed hood prop rod on a vehicle, but the hydraulic hood struts will always fail over time. One of my older vehicles has hydraulic hood struts and I've replaced them 3 times over the last 10 years. The seals in them just tend to start leaking after a few years.

    • @tboneforreal
      @tboneforreal 2 дня назад +1

      As someone who has had a hood fall on my head after the struts failed, I agree. LOL

    • @Cloud30000
      @Cloud30000 2 дня назад +1

      Yup, same with the rear hatch on SUV’s and glass on truck caps; having a stick to hold it open is much better and more reliable then struts that fail after a couple years.

    • @vw1610
      @vw1610 День назад

      It’s sucks when you’re working in the engine bay.

    • @anthonyantoine9232
      @anthonyantoine9232 День назад

      They don't break, but I've had them rust, in which case you're stuck there holding the hood open trying to spray WD40 in the joint so that it can rotate up. You're in basically the same scenario either way. I like hood struts, personally. They're convenient and I've never personally had a problem with them, but I have with a stick.

  • @is6566
    @is6566 2 дня назад +31

    Is TFL doing the Therapy ad as pro bono benefit to its subscribers to help them when they get depressed that they can’t afford any of these trucks? 😍

    • @marklihsu
      @marklihsu День назад

      More like the taco owners who get ripped off and don't even get access to a V6 or front lockers 🤣

    • @tejasflo7076
      @tejasflo7076 5 часов назад

      😂

  • @pablomax9376
    @pablomax9376 2 дня назад +20

    For my money, I would stick with the Ford, but man, that GMC looks fantastic.

    • @youngsoin9125
      @youngsoin9125 2 дня назад

      Lol I’m actually the opposite. I would stick with the GMC. However, I also think a lot of the electronic aids are not needed. I’d rather save money on a lower trim level with the comfort options I want, then spend a few grand on some shocks and a long travel kit.

    • @TheZR2Kid
      @TheZR2Kid День назад

      @@pablomax9376 You could get the Chevy Colorado ZR2 Bison for $60,000 Msrp!

  • @yissibiiyte
    @yissibiiyte 2 дня назад +88

    Still think it's weird that the Ranger gets a front locker while no version of the F150 does

    • @blueridge8992
      @blueridge8992 2 дня назад +31

      Might have something to do with the Ranger being designed for the global market. There’s a very competitive midsize truck market in Australia. Maybe the other brands offer front lockers there, so the Ranger had to have one too.

    • @guentherwilke2055
      @guentherwilke2055 2 дня назад +18

      The Ranger shares the front diff with the Bronco, and that has a front locker fully validated. This greatly lowered the engineering and cost and parts complexity.

    • @reallyemptypockets6509
      @reallyemptypockets6509 2 дня назад +40

      Why is the Ranger Raptor 59k, and the Bronco Raptor 95k🤔

    • @Anonymous-jj9yu
      @Anonymous-jj9yu 2 дня назад

      @@reallyemptypockets6509money hungry

    • @gkcamden9050
      @gkcamden9050 2 дня назад +7

      While it’s not a locking diff, the F-150 Tremor and F-150 Raptor used to have Torsen limited slip differential as an option. Unfortunately, I think they’ve taken that option away from the F-150 Tremor.

  • @Mototrucks
    @Mototrucks День назад +4

    Nathan and Andre are by far the best pair for videos on tfl

  • @herbwheeler4470
    @herbwheeler4470 2 дня назад +56

    I need therapy to deal with sticker shock . The price of these trucks are crazy. 😅

    • @diesel6916
      @diesel6916 2 дня назад +4

      Really first time I have heard this

    • @javielito20021
      @javielito20021 2 дня назад

      Cant wait until they are cheap truck steals in 5-6 years

    • @martiawesome
      @martiawesome 2 дня назад

      I know..might as well just buy a full size with that sticker

    • @9663mu
      @9663mu 2 дня назад +3

      @@martiawesomewhat kind of full size ? And will have it have all the goodies these trucks do ? No they don’t. Educate yourself with this full size comment.

    • @husshardan3511
      @husshardan3511 2 дня назад +4

      The thing is if you built up a truck to compete w these it would cost about the same, not have 405hp, would not be properly developed from the factory, and would not have a warranty. These are expensive trucks because they have some serious hardware. Now, compare that to the more expensive Taco which has none of it...

  • @jamesvegas702
    @jamesvegas702 2 дня назад +13

    “put your seatbelt back on son” lol

  • @aymanlockhartable
    @aymanlockhartable 2 дня назад +5

    20:10 put your seat belt back on! More like, “ We ride together. We die together. TFL boys for life.”

  • @kruck96
    @kruck96 2 дня назад +21

    Why does everyone make such a big deal about the headlight controls? I haven't had to touch a headlight control in 15 years. Since I live on the east coast the GMC would be my pick. I think it looks better, has a nicer interior, and there are no places to "baja" here. If I lived out west I'd probably do the Raptor.

    • @Deadset.zr2
      @Deadset.zr2 2 дня назад +7

      Dude ikr haha the zr2 headlight control is in a screen. But the raptors LOCKERS are in a screen that's way worse and when you put it in offroad mode it loads up a screen and takes forever and by default the locker is on so you need to wait for the screen to turn it off haha

    • @is6566
      @is6566 2 дня назад +6

      I like to control my headlights. Or lights in general. I always turn them on when start the vehicle and turn them off when stop driving. However, I agree the lockers being controlled by the screen is even worse.

    • @kruck96
      @kruck96 2 дня назад +3

      @@is6566 nothing wrong with doing your own thing but I’m curious as to why you do that? Every vehicle has DRL on the front that are often as bright or brighter than headlights. The only scenario I could ever see for needing to manually control your headlamps would be fog. They come on automatically when it gets dark like tunnels and evening. They come on and off automatically when your wipers are on. Heck with all the cameras they may even respond automatically to fog.

    • @XploreAz
      @XploreAz 2 дня назад +3

      @@is6566haha why? Do you adjust your power seat every time you get in also? And move your mirrors? Just leave the lights in the auto position. Set it and forget it.

    • @kevinstarski1598
      @kevinstarski1598 2 дня назад

      @@is6566 In your case, you shouldn't have to touch them/"control" them at all...just leave them in "on" position and they should turn off once you turn off the car, especially after you lock it

  • @guentherwilke2055
    @guentherwilke2055 2 дня назад +20

    Its still interesting to me that GM was first to put a factory midsize on 35's- not Toyota, even though the new Tacoma fits them easier than ever, not Jeep, although 35's fit basically stock and the Wrangler has them as a factory option.

    • @trailrunnah8886
      @trailrunnah8886 2 дня назад +2

      Not surprised at all that Toyota hasn't offered 35s, they still refuse to even offer a proper all-terrain. And yeah, would have been a no-brainer for Jeep. I'm actually surprised that the Raptor didn't come with 35s from Ford. If someone had asked me, I would have predicted Ford would have been the first with 35s.

  • @stevekniess3665
    @stevekniess3665 2 дня назад +56

    They both are badass

  • @coloradomallcrawlers
    @coloradomallcrawlers 2 дня назад +7

    You could have done your test on Argentine Route B. Deeper water crossings, and a Rock Crawl section. Looks better on video and does not put the trucks st risk. My trail guide shows that route.

  • @Norwisco
    @Norwisco 2 дня назад +47

    That canyon at4 is a sweet lookn truck

  • @RGP_WA
    @RGP_WA 2 дня назад +10

    That damn spare tie location! Are u kidding?

  • @weekendwarrior8179
    @weekendwarrior8179 2 дня назад +6

    As soon as you said, GMC. ATX and EV. I knew that price was gonna be huge

  • @applebitefool
    @applebitefool 2 дня назад +6

    You can drive on the road for hours at 20psi without issues and going from 30-20 psi makes a huge difference offroad.
    Ask me how I know 😆 I run 35s on non beadlock wheels for years. air down to 10 psi for the trails and usually only air back up to 20psi till I get home to my real air compressor. For the snow, beadlocks become crucial cause going down from 10 to 5 psi again improves traction exponentially

  • @a456987
    @a456987 2 дня назад +3

    Andre is pretty good at the chicken noises 😂

  • @DavidFigs
    @DavidFigs 2 дня назад +5

    Not a bad way to wake up Wednesday morning.. some RR TFL content!!

  • @aaronbritt2025
    @aaronbritt2025 2 дня назад +7

    Nathan, hood props NEVER fail. Hood struts do. Just saying.

    • @ALMX5DP
      @ALMX5DP 2 дня назад

      They dont fail suddenly though, usually it's a progressively more sluggish operation for quite some time before they eventually have insufficient pressure to lift up. But at least that means someone has plenty of time to recognize the need for a replacement and source and install it before it stops working.

  • @overlandv10
    @overlandv10 2 дня назад +3

    I’m with you on spare in the bed of the GMC. I just recently bought a 24 AT4X. I would have bought the AEV version if it wasn’t for the spare in the bed. That was literally the only reason I went AT4X over the AEV. But I am so far super happy with the GMC. It’s a pleasure to drive and has enough power and capability for what I wanted it for. As far as why I didn’t go for the ranger, it just isn’t nearly as good looking of a truck as the GMC.

  • @TheBeatenPaths
    @TheBeatenPaths 2 дня назад +37

    I'm a Ford guy at heart, but not truly brand loyal anymore.....I'd take the Canyon just the ground clearance.
    Re: the spare tire....I'm currently driving a '19 Ranger and I can't remember the last time I looked out the back window. And I've got my spare tire laying in my bed right now.....the only thing worse than getting a flat tire is having to F around getting the spare down from underneath the truck.

    • @is6566
      @is6566 2 дня назад +2

      Truer words never spoken.

    • @brandonbireley1690
      @brandonbireley1690 2 дня назад +3

      And why are we always in the mud when it happens??

    • @TheBeatenPaths
      @TheBeatenPaths 2 дня назад

      @@brandonbireley1690 When what happens?

    • @kevinstarski1598
      @kevinstarski1598 2 дня назад +3

      @@TheBeatenPaths take a wild guess what he's referring to 🙄

    • @alexmar1382
      @alexmar1382 2 дня назад +1

      I already drive the full size raptor and if the canyon was a v6, I'd consider it. But a 4 cylinder; nope. I'd rather just put 35" on the ranger raptor and call it a day even though it's unlikely I'll be doing any rock crawling.

  • @remembermorrison
    @remembermorrison 2 дня назад +9

    Raptor is missing the transmission skid just like the Bronco. It is a plastic pan and owners should slap a skid plate on day 1!

    • @is6566
      @is6566 2 дня назад

      Also fuel tank.

    • @remembermorrison
      @remembermorrison 2 дня назад +1

      @@is6566 fuel tank has a steel skid

    • @is6566
      @is6566 2 дня назад

      Ok tx. What about oil pan?

    • @The-fs5wn
      @The-fs5wn 2 дня назад

      @@is6566everywhere but the rear diff.

  • @joshz7712
    @joshz7712 2 дня назад +3

    When i get my Ranger Raptor, there's a kit you can get that replaces the factory side steps with the factory side steppes but they don't hang down an extra inch. Their almost flush with the truck. Helps a lot with breakover and less side steppes hitting. Im also going to do the pre runner kit (front and rear bumpers) to help with approach/departure angles as well as hopefully relocating the trailer componets. Id do this with any truck. My RR preference is based off of the 2019 Raptor i had and the 2nd gen RR literally being a smaller version of it with front lockers.

  • @lego4virgo
    @lego4virgo 2 дня назад +43

    I think these trucks are built for two different purposes. The Ranger Raptor is more of a 'fast, Baja-style' truck, whereas the GMC Canyon is happier crawling up rocky surfaces etc. Either way--the price of both is too much for me to justify.

    • @KNRS927
      @KNRS927 2 дня назад +4

      I rememeber the days when the Ford F150 Raptor was in this price range and cost about 50-60k. Good old times.

    • @casper24ism
      @casper24ism 2 дня назад +1

      Or you don't make enough to enjoy life.thars a possibility

    • @EGGINFOOLS
      @EGGINFOOLS 2 дня назад +5

      ​@@casper24ismSome people just refuse to make 1200 dollar payments every month because they are financially smart

    • @Dusdaddy
      @Dusdaddy 2 дня назад

      True that. And you can only Baja in certain parts of the country, so the GMC was the smarter manufacturer's choice. Of course, so many of these will never hit roads as tough as this video so it doesn't really matter.

    • @lego4virgo
      @lego4virgo 2 дня назад +1

      @@casper24ism Oh, I make enough--I just can't justify it in my head to pay a large payment on a depreciating asset. I'm sure you're okay with your 2.7L Ford Bronco-or is a 2.3L?, but I'll stick with my '20 Escape for now.

  • @DavidFigs
    @DavidFigs 2 дня назад +3

    I just did Lower Argentine pass and @ 24:43 is exactly where I damaged my RR wheel. You guys need to check the lower section, the water crossing is ridiculous!

  • @stlc3415
    @stlc3415 2 дня назад +9

    Great content, but you needed a base AT4X to compare with the raptor. I passed on the AEV version because of the tire and cost.

    • @davidwethington9320
      @davidwethington9320 2 дня назад +2

      I bought an AT4X also for those reasons. I wanted to use the bed. No regrets. It's been perfect so far. None of the issues from the first year.

    • @PeakDecline
      @PeakDecline 2 дня назад +1

      If you're serious about off-road then you'll be putting steel bumpers and skid plates on anyway and they'll cost just as much as the AEV package. There's also already people on the forums showing you can infact fit the 35 under the body with a bit of work.

    • @davidwethington9320
      @davidwethington9320 2 дня назад +2

      @@PeakDecline I put a 2/1 lift on my AT4X and 35's. Barely touches the front under full articulation at full lock. Not enough to grab anything. Almost can't hear it. Very minimal trimming to fix it.

  • @husshardan3511
    @husshardan3511 2 дня назад +3

    405hp. The BMW M5 had 400hp back in 2000! That was exotic stuff and did feel very fast! Now you get that in a Ford Ranger.

  • @TihsonToo
    @TihsonToo 2 дня назад +8

    They are both awesome trucks, I love the looks of the GM twins. The big draw of the GM trucks is having more comfort features that the Ford decided to axe or omit, things like vented seats that even entry level cars offer. But their tech focus is a huge turn off, especially after their chief engineer claimed the infotainment system was "bug free."
    Also can't get over the fact that Ford had a global chassis that they brought to the U.S. but then got rid of rear seat HVAC and gave the truck a smaller gas tank but still charged a premium. Seems like cost cutting for basic comfort/convenience features for no reason other than profits.

    • @ryankunkel8247
      @ryankunkel8247 2 дня назад +1

      Even entry level cars offer ventilated seats? lol. $60K plus BMWs rarely offer vented seats. It's by no means a standard option

    • @TihsonToo
      @TihsonToo 2 дня назад +1

      @ryankunkel8247 They absolutely do, you don't have to go buy a BMW to get vented seats. Go get yourself a Kia Forte GT or GT-Line trim, MSRP at $22-25k and you can option in vented seats. Heck, you could buy 2 Kias with vented seats for the price of that BMW.

    • @ryankunkel8247
      @ryankunkel8247 2 дня назад

      @@TihsonToo I think the Korean automakers are the exception. Which should be standard industry wide for their safety features too. You see some Ford F150’s for $55-60K with cloth seats (ridiculous pricing). My wife’s Suburban only has heated. Just saying it’s not a standard feature and in many manufacturers it’s only on top trims. That said, it should be on the Ranger Raptor.

  • @hondrta
    @hondrta 2 дня назад +3

    The host to his woman: “Show a tiny bit of Spinach.”….. “Ooo baby now show me the roast beef”. On a serious note, Motor Trend could really use some hosts like these. Love this channel. Good video DOODS!

  • @greyrushgreen
    @greyrushgreen 2 дня назад +7

    "Put your seatbelt back on, son!" haha "I am all that is man!" lol .... Nathan was having fun out there. Moving to Cal he might miss the Colorado mountains, and his truck buddies.

    • @is6566
      @is6566 2 дня назад +2

      A year in California and he will become an EV enthusiast. I think it’s the water. 😃

    • @Cloud30000
      @Cloud30000 2 дня назад +2

      It’s not the water, it’s the insane gas prices they have 🤑

  • @dtlusk24
    @dtlusk24 2 дня назад +1

    Love the scenery you all share. Honestly could careless about what you drive up there!! Great video team 😊😊

  • @youngblood23rb
    @youngblood23rb 2 дня назад +3

    Dynamic Duo! Well done

  • @benjaminfallon1072
    @benjaminfallon1072 День назад

    GM & Ford should both be proud of these trucks. Well done.
    Good video TFL…man the scenery, Colorado is beautiful.

  • @toddh4491
    @toddh4491 2 дня назад +2

    As always a relevant test and you two make a comical / well versed pair.

  • @kevinkollmansberger9229
    @kevinkollmansberger9229 2 дня назад +4

    I’d like to see y’all measure the ground clearance in different areas under the vehicles. The manufacturer’s measurements aren’t from the same areas and it’s hard to tell. I’m running 35’s on my second gen tundra and at my diff, I’m at 10.5”. Granted my rear diff is larger than the Colorado’s, but where do they measure from?

  • @MarkPharaoh
    @MarkPharaoh 2 дня назад +2

    The non AEV version would be a better comparison, price wise. I’d take the RR

  • @Texas_G_Longhorns
    @Texas_G_Longhorns 2 дня назад +1

    Great episode!

  • @thewireman134
    @thewireman134 2 дня назад +13

    Love the Canyon!

  • @DougVandegrift
    @DougVandegrift 2 дня назад +3

    I'm more of a rock crawler than high speed off roader. The Canyon would be my pick over the ranger, but I'd definitely need to relocate that spare tire...

    • @rockymountainjazzfan1822
      @rockymountainjazzfan1822 2 дня назад

      Yep. Take a truck with a small bed, then eat up half of it with inefficiently located spare tire. Back in the day, it was common to mount the spare vertically in the pickup bed ahead of or behind of the wheel well. If it is mounted on the driver's side, it generally won't interfere with the driver's view out the back of the truck. Also, with the spare tire mounted that way, the tire can quickly be unbolted from the truck bed, and rolled off of the truck upright. The third common trick is to use the long bolt securing the spare tire to the truck to also secure a Handyman-type jack next to the spare truck tire (for old Colorado native guys like me, by the way, we always called a Handyman jack a "sheepherder's jack" because they were often carried on a sheepherder's wagon to jack the sheepherder's wagon up to put rocks under the wheels to level it).

  • @planoman0935
    @planoman0935 2 дня назад +3

    Great video and two great looking trucks!

  • @TheZR2Kid
    @TheZR2Kid 2 дня назад +2

    I want yall to know the Chevy Colorado bison MSRP’s as $60,000 vs Ranger Rapter $57,000.

  • @ryanolson8295
    @ryanolson8295 2 дня назад +7

    Just made this choice, add vented seats, proper skids, 35s, winch capability to the ranger and you have the perfect truck, since those were missing I went with the GMC. And in Canada the raptor is $2k more than the GMC so going aftermarket doesn't make as much sense. Tucked tailpipes like on the GM 1500s would have been nice.

  • @georgearevalo781
    @georgearevalo781 2 дня назад +1

    Awesome vid you guys...

  • @Papershields001
    @Papershields001 2 дня назад

    I’ve got those wrangler territory tires on my bronco and it’s amazing the difference in ride off-road between 40 and 20 psi. Airing down is a world of difference.

  • @garysarratt1
    @garysarratt1 2 дня назад

    “Ooh, front AND rear.. I like that!”

  • @richardroberts6472
    @richardroberts6472 День назад +1

    34.4 is the tire size on the gmc btw

  • @Name-kd5jj
    @Name-kd5jj 2 дня назад +2

    I'm a Chevy guy but I'd probably pick the Ford for 1 reason. V6. Yeah you can get a lot of power with a high boost 4 banger but you'll never get the smoothness and refinement. A 4 cylinder will always feel rough, cheap and overstressed.

    • @davidwethington9320
      @davidwethington9320 2 дня назад +3

      It's an inline though. So it's pretty smooth. It's also based off of a diesel. It's over built, especially on the bottom end to handle more power. Overall it's been really good.

  • @JesseMcDMusic
    @JesseMcDMusic 2 дня назад +1

    If only the ranger had 35s...Itd be absolutely perfect.

  • @gregoreosRGV
    @gregoreosRGV 2 дня назад

    Great start to the video boys 😂

  • @Tiovergudo
    @Tiovergudo 2 дня назад +4

    Compare the ranger to the base zr2. Better value

    • @Deadset.zr2
      @Deadset.zr2 2 дня назад +1

      Yea the midsize market is silly all the creators are just jumping at doing comparisons and stuff but always don't use the trucks that actually compete. The zr2 still competes with everything while still being the cheapest

  • @JohnSmith-zi9or
    @JohnSmith-zi9or 2 дня назад +1

    My RR as of yesterday is now in transit. It's been in production since March!

    • @scottdetter
      @scottdetter 21 час назад

      Not too bad. I ordered my 2024 Raptor R in April, ETA is April 2025!

    • @JohnSmith-zi9or
      @JohnSmith-zi9or 9 часов назад

      ​@@scottdetter It was ordered last year. But yeah, this is ridiculous.

  • @doublehh666
    @doublehh666 2 дня назад

    Came to watch the truck comparison. Stayed to watch because of the Rush world tour baseball jersey.

  • @mikeaiken4330
    @mikeaiken4330 2 дня назад

    GM, Please add the fog light control to the lighting control shortcut on top of the screen.

  • @chris-qo1nt
    @chris-qo1nt 2 дня назад

    That would be a fun day

  • @reallyemptypockets6509
    @reallyemptypockets6509 2 дня назад +12

    Nathan hasn’t even moved to California yet, but already has a therapist 🤔

  • @Monoman2345
    @Monoman2345 2 дня назад +1

    Gonna miss Nathan driving the trucks the way they were meant to be in Colorado while he is in Cali!

  • @tazeat
    @tazeat 12 часов назад

    Both of these are awesome. They're everything I want in a hunting rig truck, but damn is there a price tag. I just hope people buy them, I don't have the coin sitting around for one, but man I want more of them to exist.

  • @J-Murph412
    @J-Murph412 2 дня назад

    Can we get a video of the 4Runner build Nathan was driving during the therapy ad? 😍

  • @wallylama31
    @wallylama31 2 дня назад +3

    I like both trucks, but I'd still rather have a Super Duty and tow or haul a SXS for serious off-roading.

    • @is6566
      @is6566 2 дня назад

      Non road legal vehicles are not allowed on a lot of trails in AZ or CA, according to signs I saw posted.

    • @rockymountainjazzfan1822
      @rockymountainjazzfan1822 2 дня назад +1

      @@is6566 Same in Colorado. However, in Arizona, an ATV or UTV can be licensed, with some restrictions, as a highway motor vehicle. Same in some Utah counties, all of Wyoming, and all of South Dakota. When I lived in Wyoming some years back, a co-worker rode his street-licensed ATV to work every day, all on paved streets in town--perfectly legal there. Not so in the now full Socialist state of Colorado.

    • @is6566
      @is6566 2 дня назад

      So, what if you are a South Dakota resident or Washington resident (you can license them there too) and go to Colorado? You have SD or WA license on your ATV. Would that be allowed on Colorado trails?

    • @Jay-me7gw
      @Jay-me7gw 2 дня назад

      @@wallylama31 when it’s 110F in moab, it’s nice to have AC and ventilated seats

    • @rockymountainjazzfan1822
      @rockymountainjazzfan1822 День назад

      @@is6566 ATVs and UTVS can be operated on Colorado National Forest and BLM roads without "street" licensing, but generally not on county roads that are not also National Forest or BLM roads, and never on state or federal highways. A few locales allow ATVs and UTVs to use town streets if the streets are used to access National Forest or BLM trails. Farmers and ranchers, as in many states, may get some exemptions allowing them to use ATVs and UTVs on "regular" roads in conjunction with their farming and ranching operation. It's complicated. Arizona is one of the few states with almost unlimited ATV/UTV use on roads or highways if the ATV or UTV is Arizona-licensed as a regular motor vehicle. Before I moved out of Colorado, there was a lot of controversy as to whether an Arizona ATV or UTV licensed as a motor vehicle could be legally operated on Colorado streets and highways under state reciprocity license recognition rules. I don't know how that turned out.

  • @FrankyRedEyes
    @FrankyRedEyes 2 дня назад +8

    How are these 2.7L GM engines holding up?

    • @371kenny
      @371kenny 2 дня назад

      They've fixed the lifter issue. I'd just make sure to use fuel cleaner every other tank.

    • @youngblood23rb
      @youngblood23rb 2 дня назад

      They have had injector issues and 14 or so 2023s had a cracked block issue

    • @Deadset.zr2
      @Deadset.zr2 2 дня назад +2

      I haven't heard of any issues they've been running them for a long time now. Fleet trucks work trucks dailys there's over 10 million miles on these now

    • @The-fs5wn
      @The-fs5wn 2 дня назад

      @@Deadset.zr2MY ASS. 10 million miles? No original motor can go remotely close to that far except maybe a military vehicle.

    • @Deadset.zr2
      @Deadset.zr2 2 дня назад

      @@The-fs5wn combined.

  • @JoeMoutard
    @JoeMoutard День назад

    That spare tire should be turned 90 degrees and remain behind the driver's head to minimize visual interference to the rear. Also, GM should be using a rearview camera instead of a traditional mirror for anything with a significant rear visual obstruction.

  • @TheZR2Kid
    @TheZR2Kid 2 дня назад +6

    Only one here can do both rock crawl and desert race! (GMC)

    • @Cloud30000
      @Cloud30000 2 дня назад +2

      Any truck can do desert race, but the Raptor still does it better; the AT4X AEV is underpowered for the weight and tires, and unlikely to be competitive in that regard. That’s true of any purpose-built rock crawler, where the engine is downgraded to reduce weight. Saying a rugged rock crawler is a desert racer is like saying it’s also a drag racer; sure, it can do it, but only poorly.

    • @TheZR2Kid
      @TheZR2Kid День назад +2

      @@Cloud30000 I see your point however there are things that make the bison capable for both. The DSSV shocks are renown for being great at jumping, crawling, and street driving. Secondly, have you ever seen the real desert racers? They have huge tires like the bison has so they absorb bumps and get more traction. Honestly, there’s no way the bison with 310hp and 430 ft-lbs of torque is underpowered! That’s what power stats the halfton trucks have! I feel, what makes it maybe feel sluggish is Chevys throttle tuning. To fix this, one could buy a throttle programmer which cuts off the nannies. Another note, sure the Ranger Rapter theoretically with be faster than the bison, that doesn’t make the bison not a desert racer. Look at the Jeep Gladiator Mojave! Jeep says it’s a desert racer (😅) and it’s got less than 300 hp and torque while also having solid axles. In conclusion, I feel the bison is built for both desert racing and rock crawling because the design behind the ZR2 package , however, if you wanted to pick something to race against the Ranger Rapter more comparable get the Colorado ZR2 (or Cayon).

    • @cliffordmontana4562
      @cliffordmontana4562 3 часа назад +1

      The Raptor would absolutely SMOKE the GMC in a desert race. The GM 2.7 is way slower and sounds like trash. They aren’t even comparable.

    • @TheZR2Kid
      @TheZR2Kid 2 часа назад +1

      @@cliffordmontana4562 Test it against the base ZR2. The bison is another level than the ranger Rapter. Also, it isn’t a drag race, it’s a desert race. This means speed is accomplished more than just raw power. So compare the ZR2 to the Ranger Rapter because they are more comparable than the bison to the Ranger Rapter. After comparing, if you still must have more power, take the $8,000 difference and make the zr2 to the power you want. Plus don’t forget the ZR2 has better clearances, looks and price then the RR.

  • @mitchsargent5543
    @mitchsargent5543 2 дня назад

    hahahaha we want more of this hilarious banter!

  • @mikemccabe7124
    @mikemccabe7124 2 дня назад

    any part or all parts of the hay process is somethin I'd watch if your makin the vids for us to watch

  • @khalafsworld8389
    @khalafsworld8389 2 дня назад +2

    Canyon all day everyday

  • @spencermorgan9108
    @spencermorgan9108 2 дня назад +1

    We even got the ko3 before gta 6

  • @johnyota131
    @johnyota131 2 дня назад

    Price aside, both are very good looking and capable trucks!

  • @reggiehucks1010
    @reggiehucks1010 2 дня назад +1

    Could you air down the spare in the GMC and mount it underneath?

    • @Cloud30000
      @Cloud30000 2 дня назад

      Airing down doesn’t decrease the tire size when there is no weight on the tire; the tire wall is rigid enough to maintain its shape.
      Besides that, if you deform it to fit underneath and leave it deformed for years, the deformations become permanent and it will not ride well at all over 10mph.

  • @st33ldi9ital
    @st33ldi9ital День назад +2

    Canyon all day every day.

  • @nlken7175
    @nlken7175 2 дня назад +17

    AT4X AEV is an real offroad truck. Raptor is a desert runner. Funny thing they are the same price here in Canada

    • @casper24ism
      @casper24ism 2 дня назад +2

      Lol so tell me what makes a real offroad truck.the only thing is different is clearence.and it's not that big of a difference.the ranger can go absalutly anywhere that gmc can go

    • @is6566
      @is6566 2 дня назад +4

      @casper… Sure the Ranger can go almost anywhere where the AEV GMC can go, it just doesn’t come back from a bunch of those places because of ruptured oil pan or fuel tank not having skid plates or comes back missing a plastic bumper here and there or the door doesn’t open because it doesn’t have rock sliders and the rocker panel was crashed. I said almost anywhere because it will be kind of hard at some places without a winch which the AEV makes possible because you know, steel front bumper. So no, the Ranger isn’t even close.

    • @Jay-me7gw
      @Jay-me7gw 2 дня назад

      @@is6566 You can pretty easily put skid plates and 35's on the Ranger. Those tires that are on the GMC are cheap as hell. I put them on my LX570 and got a set of 5 for $850 new. Full steel skid plating for the engine, transmission, transfer case and fuel tank should be about $1100. Again, I just put them on my LX.
      Im pretty sure the GMC "sliders" are still body mounted just like the running boards on the Raptor. Im not sure how they offer much protection.
      I would rather have the better foundation with the 3.0L Ecoboost, 10 speed, 4.27 axle ratio(not the hilariously crap 3.42's in the GMC), and long travel 5 link rear suspension and other nice stuff and worry about paying for some tires and skids, then have a truck with a crappier foundation to build off of. I've test driven a Colorado ZR2 on the smaller 33" tires and was pretty disappointed with the powertrain. It felt really weak to me at elevation in UT.
      Also remember that the AEV edition is at least $10000 more than the Raptor. So you have a whole bunch of money to spend to upgrade the Raptor to even get close to the price of the AEV.

    • @XploreAz
      @XploreAz 2 дня назад +1

      @@casper24ismhaha good joke.

    • @ryankunkel8247
      @ryankunkel8247 2 дня назад +1

      @@is6566 Nice grifting. The Canyon is no different than the standard ZR2 or AT4X and you'll probably say those are more capable than the Ranger? The type of scenario you laid out would apparently wreck a Rubicon too, so how dare anything other than a AEV or Bison variant try. Yeah the armor is nice but that's the ONLY difference for a $10K plus markup. Ground clearance? Ok, add 35's to the Ranger. Same thing. Canyons leafs, lower payload, and I4 are all major drawbacks the Ranger doesn’t have.

  • @dereksutherland4300
    @dereksutherland4300 2 дня назад

    Would have loved this, or hopefully a future, side by side comparison to include the Tacoma Trailhunter or TRD Pro… Interested to hear how you believe they compete with one another in the future.

  • @jimsomerville3924
    @jimsomerville3924 2 дня назад

    Cool trucks. Would still take a Trail Boss though.

  • @shughes911
    @shughes911 2 дня назад

    Why are the drive shafts not protected? Great little trucks

  • @nathanielbrown8438
    @nathanielbrown8438 2 дня назад

    Why isn’t your 360 camera on the lower part of the screen working in the raptor?

  • @210castro
    @210castro 2 дня назад

    I personally love all that tech inside the gmc, it reminds me of the hummer. Leaf springs are superior when off-roading, plus those shocks are from formula 1 so that clearly makes them superior to fox shocks.

  • @pruitt3507
    @pruitt3507 2 дня назад +3

    Id gone with the GM, iifff i was gonna pull something with it, i like the leif springs better. More stability when going down the road vs coil overs.

    • @Jay-me7gw
      @Jay-me7gw 2 дня назад

      @@pruitt3507 wut? Coils and 5 link are absolutely more stable. The rear axle movement is controlled far better

    • @Cloud30000
      @Cloud30000 2 дня назад

      Yup, coils are better for towing; that’s why they put them on HD trucks 🤪

    • @Jay-me7gw
      @Jay-me7gw 2 дня назад

      @@Cloud30000 Like the Ram 2500?

    • @pruitt3507
      @pruitt3507 День назад

      @@Jay-me7gwgo tow with the ram 2500 with a 5th wheel, its not as stable compared to another truck like f250 or 2500 chevy that has leif springs. And my comment is just my personal opinion.

    • @pruitt3507
      @pruitt3507 День назад

      @@Jay-me7gw go tow with the ram 2500 with a 5th wheel, its not as stable compared to another truck like f250 or 2500 chevy that has leif springs. And my comment is just my personal opinion.

  • @shaolin224
    @shaolin224 2 дня назад

    True..for prices nowadays struts on the bonet should be mandatory. I was gonna say, who made Roman walk up the hill with ranger😅..luckily it was a younger fella

  • @NatesHomeTours
    @NatesHomeTours 2 дня назад +1

    2:23, What's with the loose wires in the raptor? How about since they are performance trucks they give us what we want, a V8? If money wasn't the factor, GMC for me.

    • @curtis4925
      @curtis4925 15 часов назад

      Which wires? Are you talking about the 2 under Andre’s hand? If so some ones had pulled that out, that is factory wiring for additional after lights, so putting a light bar on is literally just connect to those wires.

  • @kabloosh699
    @kabloosh699 17 часов назад

    I really think hydraulic hood struts are neat but definitely one of the least important things to have on a vehicle.

  • @Softroad_Adventures
    @Softroad_Adventures День назад

    Please compare the standard Colorado ZR2 with the Ranger raptor. The price is much closer and they have the same size tires!

  • @rokuth
    @rokuth 2 дня назад

    The Ranger Raptor also has a more usable truck bed because there is no spare tire in the bed as compared to the Canyon AT4X.

  • @rayjay8322
    @rayjay8322 2 дня назад

    " Put your seat belt back on, son!"🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @sundevilkdaddy
    @sundevilkdaddy 3 часа назад

    Ironically, the GMC has the EXACT same size and type of tire that comes with the Bronco Sasquatch package.

  • @sunnyvalentino
    @sunnyvalentino 2 дня назад

    Will I need the Fox or DSS shocks to do my weekend Costco run, esp in the winter? Im willing to pay 20K in fuel costs over 60k miles for the reassurance. Might also impress a few ladies if the shocks are visibile.

  • @calebparkin3
    @calebparkin3 2 дня назад

    What pass/trail is this?

  • @phantom0456
    @phantom0456 2 дня назад

    “Aren’t you gonna make fun of her for wearing an LA Dodgers hat?”
    “No.”
    😂

  • @rayjay8322
    @rayjay8322 2 дня назад

    Okay that was a funny one.

  • @Eightball2516
    @Eightball2516 2 дня назад +5

    I would take the gmc easier to work then that cluster of a ford engine bay and the gmc to me is just all around better the gmc is a more simple truck less crap to go wrong unlike the ford the shocks and all the other stuff is on the computer

    • @casper24ism
      @casper24ism 2 дня назад

      Lol look at the man that fancys himself a mechanic. You are clueless these engines are not engines the ave person can work on!

    • @Drg24800
      @Drg24800 6 часов назад

      Gladiator and Frontier will have much easier engines to work on

  • @2011buddylee
    @2011buddylee 2 дня назад

    Lots of people reporting problems with the 2024 Canyon headlights blinking off and on when driving at night, no TSB has been issued by GM yet.

  • @skipgumphrey9579
    @skipgumphrey9579 2 дня назад

    Cool stuff, but at those prices I’m in zero danger of parting ways with my 20yo Toyota truck which still runs great despite the 300,000 miles !

  • @turdferguson2839
    @turdferguson2839 2 дня назад +1

    That GMC looks awesome but you can get a Colorado ZR2 for 50k and then add bigger tires if u want. 60k is just dumb for a little truck.

    • @Jay-me7gw
      @Jay-me7gw 2 дня назад

      @@turdferguson2839 it’s almost $70k 😂
      And those tire they use are only like $900 for a set of 5, so it’s not even like it’s an expensive upgrade.

  • @sirjynx3041
    @sirjynx3041 День назад

    If I owned a vehicle, the only thing I know for sure, is Andre would never be allowed to drive it.

  • @damilolaakanni
    @damilolaakanni 2 дня назад

    Same engine as the Bronco Raptor, but with less power. I think it has something to do with the exhaust and how it fits under the Ranger.

  • @Alex.outbound
    @Alex.outbound 2 дня назад

    Surprised Argentine is open this early

  • @Tiovergudo
    @Tiovergudo 2 дня назад +9

    You can get a zr2 for 48k. You add bigger tires and ur good

    • @is6566
      @is6566 2 дня назад +1

      You will need a lift too. Otherwise rubbing.

    • @Tiovergudo
      @Tiovergudo 2 дня назад

      @@is6566 zero rub from others. And worse case a spacer should help. You can do a lot for the 10k plus premium the bison/AT4x ask for. The aftermarket is pretty good

    • @Deadset.zr2
      @Deadset.zr2 2 дня назад

      That's like 200 bucks ​@@is6566

    • @nth842
      @nth842 2 дня назад

      The zr2 and zr2 bison have the same lift ​@@is6566

    • @marklihsu
      @marklihsu 2 дня назад

      Suspension and the v6 in the raptor makes it far superior

  • @garysarratt1
    @garysarratt1 2 дня назад

    Why can’t all steps be made to slide on the bottom, why must it be either/or?

  • @j.b.708
    @j.b.708 День назад

    for the first time in my entire life i noticed a GM vehicle. put a REAL high-clearance front and rear bumper with dual swing-out rear for the tire and fuel and you have the perfect vehicle.

    • @Jay-me7gw
      @Jay-me7gw 12 часов назад

      Its not perfect because the 2.7L is just ok. I test drove one and was not particularly impressed.

  • @D4V1D-TN
    @D4V1D-TN 2 дня назад

    I agree with another comment. I keep searching for a "true" apples to apples comparison. To me, that would be the Raptor vs TRD Pro vs AT4X (non AEV) vs Pro4X. That would represent the top offering from each manufacturer. I know the AEV version is GMC's top version, but it's not like for like, IMO. Shocked no one has had this showdown yet.
    I would like it to be onroad, towing, and offroad. Same courses, same day...and as objective as possible.
    I guess it's just too hard to get one of each and get it done.

    • @Drg24800
      @Drg24800 6 часов назад +1

      IMHO, the Pro4X wouldn’t be an apples to apples comparison because it lacks the capability of the other trucks. It’s a great truck but not as capable. A better competitor would be a Gladiator Rubicon/Mojave imo.