Depends on the champion ngl, sometimes the champ just has its own self sustaining tools that help him out and its better to get armor/magic resist or even damage
Now thinking about it doran shield maybe a long time item but we usally back like after 2 3 minutes i should try cloth armor and refill potion cause i usally rushing big item with refund gold rune
In tough matchups, simply buying refill with cloth or mantle than selling both can save your lane (only for mid and top). For botlane sadly you can only build more damage after refill and hope there is a teamfight you can snowball with.
@@krzysztofputerko1943 you can always buy the refills on first back. resists can be purchased early without you completing their full item until like 4th.
@@CheekyHaggisOkay but shouldn't Resolve tree second and Doran's Shield more than enough for laning sustain? Besides, the 40 HP you get instantly usually NEVER changed much for me and is way less you'd get from just going cookies. This rune was only good back then when cookies were in a different row and you could stack it together. 40% of 10%-15% max HP definitely added up way more than only... 40 HP.
@@ramirl It’s super niche, if you got other good sustain options available without sacrificing too much then go for it. At what point in time did biscuits restore 10-15%? TWT gives +96 from 2 pot starts and +80 from first recalls onwards with refill. 2 pot starts is like Ring and support item etc, see people in D2 that go more than 2 pots in certain games but haven’t tried it.
As a Pantheon OTP, I usually go Long Sword Refillable on matchups I need some form of head start on first item. It works most of the time. Lanes with zero kill pressure and get down to pure farminng lanes as well. I only go Dorans Blade on matchups that all trades are usually all ins.
long sword + refillable is a great start if you are confident you wont need a Doran's item to win lane (or get farm and plates if you're Bausenmaxxing)
Can you make video about best early game runes please? I’m a big fan of having impact since lvl 1 and taking runes for lane. Taking scaling runes is just risky
Probably precision main with secondary colossus. Though it depends what you mean by early game, early game on a scaling champ like kayle might look like grabbing fleet, while on Darius it would be conqueror or phase rush. Generally, conqueror, triumph, alacrity, and whatever bottom rune combined with bone plating and another green rune.
For precision tree the best early game choice would be to take the New runes that gives you healing when creeps die instead of triumph. However generally almost all of precision tree runes are similar in their power no matter the state of the game. For domination it's definitely cheap shot(in easy matchups) and taste of blood(in hard matchups). Eyeball collection is also a great rune For snowballing after you already get some lead. And obviously electrcute is best early game red keystone For burst champs while Dark harvest is more late game rune. For Sorcery tree you have Arcane comet as best early game dmg rune, nullifying orb in first row as very strong early game anti magic dmg rune(however most champs who take sorcery need manaflow band more anyways), absolute Focus For second row as very strong rune(but only in easy matchups because it only works when you are high HP) and of course scorch as best early game rune for third row. For determination tree you have: 1. Grasp of undying as best early game rune in toplane Guardian and Afterschock as strong runes in every stage of the game for any other role than toplane(generally the only tanks outside of toplane are in support and jungle and in those roles you cab't really stack Grasp on minions before you start a trade so you won't really get value off of it, grasp is a short trade rune and most fights on botlane are all ins while every single jungler gank is also an all in). 2. Shield bash as a very strong early game rune on champs who have spammable shield(Shen, Nautilus, Tahm kench etc.) 3. Bone plating as good early game anti-burst rune and second wind as good early game anti-poke rune 4. Revitalize as best early game rune if your champ has self healing/self-shielding. In theory there is also unfliching but I feel like the rune is useless after it's rework.
Refillable potion is still very good on Nasus vs very hard matchups which can take about 60-70% of your max HP with a single trad(like Renekton, Darius etc.) Having refillable allows you to regen about 20-30% of your max HP in the early game so you can stay a little bit longer before recalling and hopefully get a better wave position for your reset. Without refillable potion, if you took a bad trade, you would either have to instantly reset with probably bad wave state for you, or stay in lane and just sap exp because you can't come close to them when you are at 30-40% HP.(remember that not being able to toucb a wave also means no Fleet footwork procs)
cull + refillables is fantastic when you're in a matchup that's extremely favored for you. only problem with cull is that most matchups require a Doran's to win lane, but you can still get both if you're confident
Doran's items are currently so OP that you want to start them anyways in every matchup. You get Refillable pot after first recall. As toplane player, I always get 600 gold before first recall and then buy cull+refillable pot if I'm in an easy matchup.
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Depends on the champion ngl, sometimes the champ just has its own self sustaining tools that help him out and its better to get armor/magic resist or even damage
True, some champions don't really need it
@@lolhavocAgreed, for the last point especially. Someone like Nasus wouldn't really need refillable, just Dorans Shield.
a refillable during fight still has the potential to bait a fight that you have more chances to win with refillables
Item is one thing but skill is another.
Now thinking about it doran shield maybe a long time item but we usally back like after 2 3 minutes i should try cloth armor and refill potion cause i usally rushing big item with refund gold rune
Your videos are really good man, we need indepth videos of building items in what situations, season 14 changed everything we need updates
I will try to do a video about that subject this week 💪
Garen main:I don't need such a thing 🗿
Very helpful information! Keep it up.
Thank you very much !
In tough matchups, simply buying refill with cloth or mantle than selling both can save your lane (only for mid and top). For botlane sadly you can only build more damage after refill and hope there is a teamfight you can snowball with.
reminder that wits end, maw, and death's dance are all viable for most adcs
@@kreeperkiller4423ye but not as first items.
Byt the time you get to your 3rd or 4th item, refillable value is already negligble
@@krzysztofputerko1943 you can always buy the refills on first back. resists can be purchased early without you completing their full item until like 4th.
why u gotta tell them, refillable first base is like the unwritten rule of high elo
I love doing first reset on 600 gold to get that early refillable and cull when I'm playing scaling toplane champs
Refillable can be even more efficient with time warp tonic
Yeah, but why would you play this rune when you can get cookies or huge damage boost and a skill point?
I don't need a mediocre instant heal if I plan my engages correctly, might as well take a rune that will actually be useful throughout the entire game
@@quaderex3420 It's good into tough lanes when won't be the problem but sustain will be.
@@CheekyHaggisOkay but shouldn't Resolve tree second and Doran's Shield more than enough for laning sustain? Besides, the 40 HP you get instantly usually NEVER changed much for me and is way less you'd get from just going cookies. This rune was only good back then when cookies were in a different row and you could stack it together. 40% of 10%-15% max HP definitely added up way more than only... 40 HP.
@@ramirl It’s super niche, if you got other good sustain options available without sacrificing too much then go for it. At what point in time did biscuits restore 10-15%? TWT gives +96 from 2 pot starts and +80 from first recalls onwards with refill. 2 pot starts is like Ring and support item etc, see people in D2 that go more than 2 pots in certain games but haven’t tried it.
As a Pantheon OTP, I usually go Long Sword Refillable on matchups I need some form of head start on first item. It works most of the time. Lanes with zero kill pressure and get down to pure farminng lanes as well. I only go Dorans Blade on matchups that all trades are usually all ins.
long sword + refillable is a great start if you are confident you wont need a Doran's item to win lane (or get farm and plates if you're Bausenmaxxing)
I think most times dorans + pot is better as first buy. But after first backport refillable is op in a lot of cases
you forgot to mention it can be sold for 65G(if i don't remember wrong) which make its price actually 95G
It can be sold for 60g, I focused on the early game only in the video, but yeah you are right, you aren't losing that much money
I wanna try this buy against Zed as a midlaner
>People watch a League basics video
>People comment dumb shit instead of listening to the video properly in the first place
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What would be a good start for an adc?
Boots and Refillable?
Or just regular Doran's Blade and then get RP on recall?
dorans, just get refill on recall
Doran's every time, and then RP on recall
Some also like Long Sword and 3 pots too though. Stil, Doran's is usually the go for option.
@@c.a.1494that was viable before doran items buff.
Right now it makes no sense because Doran's blade gives the exact same amount of AD as Longsword
Saph + Refillable is peak gameplay
Can you make video about best early game runes please? I’m a big fan of having impact since lvl 1 and taking runes for lane. Taking scaling runes is just risky
ots not risky its rewarding in low elo
That's a good idea !
Probably precision main with secondary colossus. Though it depends what you mean by early game, early game on a scaling champ like kayle might look like grabbing fleet, while on Darius it would be conqueror or phase rush. Generally, conqueror, triumph, alacrity, and whatever bottom rune combined with bone plating and another green rune.
For precision tree the best early game choice would be to take the New runes that gives you healing when creeps die instead of triumph.
However generally almost all of precision tree runes are similar in their power no matter the state of the game.
For domination it's definitely cheap shot(in easy matchups) and taste of blood(in hard matchups). Eyeball collection is also a great rune For snowballing after you already get some lead.
And obviously electrcute is best early game red keystone For burst champs while Dark harvest is more late game rune.
For Sorcery tree you have Arcane comet as best early game dmg rune, nullifying orb in first row as very strong early game anti magic dmg rune(however most champs who take sorcery need manaflow band more anyways), absolute Focus For second row as very strong rune(but only in easy matchups because it only works when you are high HP) and of course scorch as best early game rune for third row.
For determination tree you have:
1. Grasp of undying as best early game rune in toplane
Guardian and Afterschock as strong runes in every stage of the game for any other role than toplane(generally the only tanks outside of toplane are in support and jungle and in those roles you cab't really stack Grasp on minions before you start a trade so you won't really get value off of it, grasp is a short trade rune and most fights on botlane are all ins while every single jungler gank is also an all in).
2. Shield bash as a very strong early game rune on champs who have spammable shield(Shen, Nautilus, Tahm kench etc.)
3. Bone plating as good early game anti-burst rune and second wind as good early game anti-poke rune
4. Revitalize as best early game rune if your champ has self healing/self-shielding.
In theory there is also unfliching but I feel like the rune is useless after it's rework.
@@krzysztofputerko1943 ok dzięki kolego
Refill on first recall is such a good investment for lane sustain but i visibly cringe if i see them buy a control ward when map awareness is free
Delayed spike but how crazy or useless would refill be into champs that already got sustain builds like fleet kayle and nasus?
Refillable potion is still very good on Nasus vs very hard matchups which can take about 60-70% of your max HP with a single trad(like Renekton, Darius etc.)
Having refillable allows you to regen about 20-30% of your max HP in the early game so you can stay a little bit longer before recalling and hopefully get a better wave position for your reset.
Without refillable potion, if you took a bad trade, you would either have to instantly reset with probably bad wave state for you, or stay in lane and just sap exp because you can't come close to them when you are at 30-40% HP.(remember that not being able to toucb a wave also means no Fleet footwork procs)
Why not get cull for 450
cull + refillables is fantastic when you're in a matchup that's extremely favored for you. only problem with cull is that most matchups require a Doran's to win lane, but you can still get both if you're confident
Doran's items are currently so OP that you want to start them anyways in every matchup.
You get Refillable pot after first recall.
As toplane player, I always get 600 gold before first recall and then buy cull+refillable pot if I'm in an easy matchup.
Doran's more efficient, honestly
yeah 100 hp 4% life stealnd and 10 ad
you dont have it to buy it on start, do it on recall
Build both Doran's and Refillable !
It's D item and then refill on your first recall. Was this not obvious? 0_0
@@PedroCastrodri So Long Sword Refillable start? I may just need this item once or twice, and that's it, might as well buy health pots instead
Nah imagine not rushing warmog in 2024
Buying 150 gold item which later selss for 60 gold won't really delay your warmog rush mate.
Dorans got buffed quite recently don't be fooled.
is there a passive on dorans that does not let you buy refillable?? just buy it on your recall
@@PedroCastrodri By that point starting to build your actual items might be the better option
This isnt a start of the game buy. Its whenever you dont have enough gold for an item. You go a component and refillable.
Just go both doran's and refillable💪
@@Trevan2412 No........
this item should be removed
I didn't know Refillable Potion haters existed. Do you play poke champions ?
@@lolhavoc yes. and when im playing poke vs poke even they buy this
@@AplicFlare Wow. I didn't know someone could be as bad as you. Thanks for surprising me.
@@ShadowRaZeV1 bringing your ai generated response to your teammates flaming you into the youtube comments i see.
@@AplicFlare I'm sorry, are you ok? What's the deal here?
baus dislikes this video
Baus usually buys a refillable on first back tho
@@kreeperkiller4423that's why Baus dislikes it, OP is exposing his strats.