Fire Emblem Engage Vs. Three Houses: What's Better?
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- Опубликовано: 2 фев 2023
- What is the best Fire Emblem on the Nintendo Switch? We take a look at Three houses and Engage and come to a conclusion. The answer may SHOCK you (or not)
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three houses i played over 300 hours and engage? i could not even finish it like my god that story.....
I struggled through it, but in hindsight i dont know why i bothered. I guess the gameplay was ultimately just enough to make it worth finishing - Tom
Three Houses was good game, but it had way too much time spent in the Monastery. You could easily be spending 50% if not more of your gameplay time in a hub, and I'm sorry but for most Fire Emblem fans that's way to much of a distraction from what is meant to be the core gameplay i.e. the Tactical battles. Now I found the Monastery fine on a first playthrough but a total chore on any playthrough after and on the higher difficulties its pretty much mandatory. I think Engage definitely strikes a far better balance with time spent in the hub and I haven't played on Maddening yet but I never felt like I had to do chores in the hub to complete on hard. Honestly apart from the story, characters (Though for a MC, Alear is more likeable than Byleth)and maybe Music (but I really like both), Engage did it better.
Garreg Mach is what made it for us. The Somniel feels a little tacked on. I usually find myself just skipping out on big chunks of it because i find it dull. Like we said in the video though - if you dont like the between sections then Engage is most definitely your game
You have to understand just how much hatred Intelligent Systems got for Three Houses when it released from long time FE fans. In fact if you do a youtube search for videos around the time of release you will find a multitude of creators/fans producing content dedicated to explaining why Three Houses is the worst game in the entire series. I am a longtime FE fan and I will admit that the Persona-fication of Fire Emblem originally upset me as well but after having spent hundreds of hours with Three Houses my opinion about that game has totally changed. I'm convinced Intelligent Systems tried their absolute best to please the longtime fans with Engage but as a result they may also alienate all the new fans that only know Three Houses.
Yeh we didnt realise it got so much hate upon release. I guess we werent as involved in the creator space then. Wasnt Awakening where the social sim stuff really kicked off?
You pretty much nailed it with that last sentence. Theres too much legacy stuff for new or casual fans
@@SumKindofGaming Its funny that you mention Awakening because that game is nearly identical to Engage, minus the emblem rings of course. But yes, Awakening is the game that really went all in on the idea/mechanics of unit bonding via support conversations, relationships, and even the ability to marry units together and have children (who would battle alongside you). These features though are entirely optional and skippable, buried under menus and sub-menus --just like in Engage.
In Three Houses the social aspect to the game is essential, and integral to the experience. The true magic in that game comes from the bond you form with your class as you mentor and cultivate the students over time.
For example, the final time you participate in the 'Battle of the Eagle and Lion' there is a deep feeling of connection with your class as you've been on this legitimate emotional journey with these students over the course of the entire game. Its a real, legitimate bittersweet moment.
I don't think I've had that kind of emotional connection to a group of characters in a Fire Emblem game before.
I love Engage, since its effectively a prettier version of FE: Awakening and FE: Fates but it definitely lacks the magic of Three Houses.
Ahhh thats interesting! We've never played Awakening, just heard good things.
And couldnt agree more with this sentiment. When art makes you feel something (good or bad) its always a good positive.
Oh we're loving engage too! It is a really pretty game!
That just isn‘t true, Three Houses was seen positively, starting with the reveal of the time skip. Before Three Houses, there was a rift in the community between those who started post awakening and older fans, Three Houses destroyed that rift. (If only to replace it with Fodlan Politics). If Three Houses wasn‘t there, Engage (with its similarities to awakening and fates) would likely just be seen as a continuation of their course, and torn to shreds by older fans.
@@tirex3673 Cop out answer but it's a mix and complicated as all things are. As we learned more about Three Houses fans of more "traditional" fe became more and more skeptical with of course some basically hating just cause it's new. To make a VERY long story short, general consensus is Three Houses is a good game. However, the series now "suffers from success" with many Three Houses only fans or "older fans" it left a huge impression on, being extemely confused by Engage's gameplay and tone. Both are not new to the series.
You gave me an interesting point of view, actually. Three Houses is great and all, but I'm more of a sucker for classic, adventure journeys rather than sims, so I avoided it. Engage I believe is catered towards veterans much like Echoes Shadows of Valentia did, with its lower development time. Since Japan has a lot more older people, ISI wants to cater to longtime fans at some point; they're more important. I agree Three Houses is a great all-in-one package though; it keeps you hooked for over 100 hours, and thus I recommend it for newcomers to FE.
Oooo good point with Japans ageing population!
Its all really up to personal preferance at the end of the day!
even like younger fans like fire emblem didnt really pop off until fire emblem awakening where this game started become mainstream, like if you look at the sales of fire emblem it didn't go too well until fire emblem awakening and from that point on it only went up from there especially fire emblem three houses. Like looking at sales number awakening sold 1.9 million worldwide, Fates sold just over 3 million worldwide and three houses 3.8 million worldwide (these numbers are pulled from wikipedia). So to say it caters for older or veteran fans, i feel like thats an understatement considering like if you come from awakening it feels the same like how you traverse the overworld and skirmishes and even like casual mode being a thing
@@xploziv8696 This is also a good point. The 'older' fans weren't really holding the series afloat in terms of sales.
Three Houses makes us fall in love with the characters and gives you a sense of purpose. Engage just feels soulless
Hey give Engage some credit. If you ask me, that pile of crap has the best gameplay in the franchise. Literally perfected Fire Emblem gameplay.
@@sageoffire3964now just take the gameplay of engage and the story telling of 3 houses and we would have perfection
@@austin9809 Literally a perfect Fire Emblem game in the making.
I am someone who wants to lose himself in game. Yes the game play and animation in engage is more appealing but three houses story itself is amazing and you get emotionally invested
We personally prefer the 3H artstyle, but whole heartedly agree with everything else. Story really helps keep you invested in the rest of the experience
They updated the pets thing in 3 houses you can feed them now
😲 Thats more than enough reason to go back to it!
Three Houses was my first Fire Emblem too. I liked it soooo much that I ended up playing most of the games in the series.
I was so captivated by the story, the characters, the mechanics, etc., that I ended up playing it like 8 times. I just love it.
The monastery gets quite boring at some point (especially when you replay it without NG+ and have to do it all over again), but it doesn't ruin the experience for me.
I hope the next Fire Emblem has a deep and complex story like Three Houses. You can feel the pain, the anger, the hope, the sadness. It's heartbreaking at times. It's amazing. Maybe my all-time favorite game.
I really like Engage, but the story is just too simple and plain... There are just a handful of meaningful moments near the endgame, but that's all.
We back this comment 100% Glad you found your favourite game of all time!
Comparing Three Houses and Engage is like comparing Meat and Vegetables.
Two pretty different experiences for sure
@@SumKindofGaming yes.
Engage has way better gameplay and Three Houses has a better story. Depends on if you are filthy casual or not. x'D
🤣 Must be the filthy casuals then!
We do prefer the gameplay of 3 houses though - must be our casual opinion 😋
Fire Emblem Engage was supposed to be an anniversary game (30th) celebration but it got delayed. that's why it had protagonists from previous games and felt more traditional while introducing new cool mechanics at the same time. The next fire emblem game that is not a remake might have multiple routes and something similar to the 3H monastery again (maybe a city where you can build hospitals lol ) . I just hope they'll find a way to make something cool for 3H fans without ruining the experience for the og fans
YES! A city with hospitals sounds like the obvious choice 🤣
There's definitely a happy medium somewhere there. We didn't realise 3 houses wasn't all that popular with long time fans
There is a rumour that the next game will be a Genealogy of the Holy War remake. In which case no, there are no multiple routes but the replay value is higher….and the length of chapter maps….Story is better I cannot wait for the BBQ scene to be animated.
But alas, only a rumour.
You could feed the kitties in 3H for crafting material. Adopting kitties in Engage is actually disincentived, since only dogs give crafting material.
Yeh but Cats > Dogs
@@SumKindofGaming yeah you guys dropped the ball on that one. You can get crafting materials in 3H from cats too by giving them fish, meat, etc
Engage is also missing the engaging side quests that Three Houses has. All of the characters in Three Houses had interesting backstories. A lot of the backstories revealed more about the characters, showed their development, and players even got to understand why they believed what they believed and behaved the way they behaved. Side quests were made to be interesting. In Engage, side quests are just a grind. They feel tedious.
Especially the Emblem stuff that leans so heavily into the law of past games. Awesome if you've played said games, not so much if you haven't
Agreed. The emblem paralogues are okay, but other than some nostalgia baiting if you've played the old game, and having a powerful boss with emblem mechanics, they don't have unique mechanics, they teach you nothing about the characters, they teach you nothing about the world, and although non-fatal training battles are in the game, your emblems will inexplicably kill your units in these paralogues.
would engage or three houses be more in line with the 3ds games(awakening and fates)?
Engage. 3h is a very unique fire emblem game.
@@ratman6754 i see! thank you🫶
Engage is more in line with Awakening and Fates. Plus if you've played Awakening and Fates Engage is like a love letter to us. So much nostalgia in this game if you've played Fates and Awakening, this has past characters from those games. Personally I prefer Engage over Three Houses because I'm not the biggest fan of the social sim stuff. I just want do combat and get hooked and enjoy the main story and the soundtrack and Engage is that. To me Engage has the most addictive combat system of any Fire Emblem game and a god tier soundtrack. And it makes me smile so much because of how well it incorporates stuff from Fates and Awakening. Don't wanna spoil anything.
Ok so the thing about Engage is it was first made to be a 30th anniversary special game but due to covid it was set back sooooo it was made for long time fans as a look bad at the series. And it more of a traditional FE game as well. You should TOTALLY stream or Play all the other FE games!!! And im sure you will love and hate all of them (because of the whole perma-death stuff) anyway thanks for the great video!!!!
One of the things I like about the Fire Emblem series is that they don't just make the same game but slightly better each time. They take bold chances that give each game a unique identity and make the older games worth going back to. I can understand being disappoint that it wasn't another 3 Houses, but I did enjoy the whimsical nature of Engage's writing.
Whimsical writing does not excuse bad writing
You know what. This is an extremely well thought out point of view that we wished we'd thought of so we could have put it in the video 😅
Taking bold steps means sometimes you trip. As they did with Engage. As they did with Fates.
After going through your argument I find your closing statement a tad confusing. It sounds as though you came into this Strategy RPG expecting a social sim and were disappointed when it focused on the combat. The wording was also a bit odd, coming off along the lines of "Pick up Three Houses instead of Engage for the Fire Emblem Experience" which is hard to take seriously when you started off saying Three Houses was your only experience with the series prior to Engage, which made me question what you thought the Fire Emblem Experience actually was.
Oh, we knew Engage was combat focused well before its release, its more of a traditional FE experience ey. We just like 3H a lot more
As a long time fan of the series, i love both games. FE Engage reminded me of why i loved FE: Fates. FE 3H was something new with the "Sims" system.
But the bad part is, after finishing three houses multiple times and you know everything about the characters and all, the Monastery becomes a pain since you want to advance to the next chapter ASAP. Also, i had to mute my TV during the monastery and played another BGM so I could keep playing. lol
We also love both games! Taking the series in different directions is fun. Whats next? Gran Fire Emblem Turismo? 🤣
Hmm, Fire Emblem: Hogwarts Legacy edition vs Fire Emblem: Marri-... I mean, Engage... *cough*
I don't know... I wasn't big on the whole school theme Three Houses had going for it... It felt kinda out-of-place, and maybe even wack in terms of the overall setting the FE universe was based around the original theme being medevial fantasy, with kingdoms waging wars with each other, and the eventual fight leading up to defeating the Big Bad being god, etc. Engage was... colorful... but the overall FEEL of the game just felt too modern for some reason, and that's to say the least with Three Houses... I'm guessing Three Houses tried a different approach in terms of a diverse interactive gameplay perspective. But it just didn't felt true to what made FE unique in the first place.
Honestly, if I HAD to choose between the two, I would go with Engage. The only thing about Engage that bothered me was how underwhelmingly short and brief the character support conversations all were... Something I actually missed, and rather enjoyed reading in both Awakening and If/Fates, even tho I didn't like any of the characters in those two FE games. But there's just something gratifying in letting my imagination run wild in discovering the many possible relationships between the characters in those two games, as well as learning MORE about the characters OUTSIDE of fighting on the battlefield. Something that gave the characters actual DEPTH whereas Engage did not.
Maybe it didnt need a huge social sim feature like 3H but we agree some more interesting/ fully realised dialogue would have helped. Like how many of these dam characters ENTIRE personality is based around tea...
Great comparison video. I pretty much agree with everything you said. While I prefer the gameplay in Engage, I found the overall experience in Three Houses better. I got really invested into Three Houses lore, setting, story, characters, the social sim aspects that help build your relationships, etc.
Three houses hands down just because of the characters and story. I sided with the Black Eagles and ( spoiler warning ⚠️) felt really bad about killing Flayn and Seteth after completing their story quest. I never felt that emotion when it came to engage.
Oh 100% its way more of an RPG. Anything other than the battles in Engage seems like filler
@@medalgearsalad1419 sorry about that 😂
You can save them, dont join to you, but they still alive
Greay vid! I've been hesitating getting Engage despite loving Three Houses so much. This was helpful in validating my gut was right. Thanks! I'll just replay TH instead 😅...and maybe give Three Hopes another go (but I'm really not a fan of the Warriors style combat)
Thankyou! Just get the TH dlc, i think its better
I do like Engage however a lot of the elements that makes Engage’s story is from earlier games like Awakening, Fates, Echoes, etc. Plus some of the Emblems shown were only featured in Japanese only released Fire Emblem games.
Great for long time hardcore fans, not so great for casual or newer fans
Just got a switch and I'm building my collection of games now. So far, I picked up Xenoblade Chronicles 1 though 3 and Astral Chain. Next on my list is Shin Megami Tensei 5 and both of these Fire Emblem games. What I don't like though is people are saying there is a rewind feature in these, and I don't know if the feature can be turned off. I think that is cheating so I don't know how I feel about getting them yet. I like a real challenge especially in a strategy game, what is the point if I can rewind? Let me know if anyone knows more about this.
Wait for smt 5 vengeance bro, youre gonna regret getting the original when that comes out in a few months. Basically think persona 5 vs persona 5 royal, royal made the original redundant since its the same game with more content
@@Malignantt1 I'm actually deliberately avoiding vengeance. They're doing the same thing they always do on their remakes and even admitting it on the main page, adding battle mechanic features and making the game play more accessible. This means they will be destroying the game's difficulty, I'm fine with the switch version.
You can cancel the rewind feature in both Three Houses and Engage
@@BulbaWhat98 I now have 3 Houses, Engage, 3 Hopes and Warriors. I'm 25 hours in on chapter 10 in Houses. It's a great great, but Hard is to easy while the setting above was so hard I had to take it down. I'm pissed about all the cencership I heard about surrounding Engage but that shouldn't effect gameplay. The other 2 I am aware they are Dynasty Warriors style games with Hopes having a better story.
Yeah I just started Engage I'm on chapter 5 and I can't bring myself to play the game anymore. I started out with 3h the narrative and micro managing is what kept me hook.
Three Houses has been my intro into the series but also my ONLY Fire Emblem since. I even straight up bought the switch just to play FE:TH ( n pokemon obviously) i was that hyped for it and wasn't disappointed, absolutely loved Three Houses.
So imagine my surprise that none of the games since has resonated with me, that's 2 or 3 now.
I'm soo ready for more Fire Emblem... but Engage just weren't it for me. I keep checking vids like these to make sure I'm not just being an asshole... I mean i am but nevermind
Haha its okay you're not an Ahole! You just share our tastes and others have different ones!
Great video. Personally, I also thought that the soundtrack for three houses was much better. In addition to all the stuff you talked about.
Thankyou! Glad you enjoyed it!
Soundtracks can make or break games sometimes!
Yeah, I haven't heard a memorable track in Engage yet.
@@bificommander7472 I like bright sandstorm (solm's battle theme).....only.
To not know Eliwood and Hectors story as a child is a wild concept to me. I’m sorry you guys missed out on the old games in their prime
I'm kindof torn between these 2 rn ahah. With the recent release of the gba FE I've been on a kick and I need more! Engage looks amazing, the graphics are top teir for a FE title. I've never been one to pay heed to the story or dialogue on the gba titles..
But on the other hand they weren't voice acted so I'd likely be much more invested now that they are.
3 houses has the best new game + experience supposedly, which is a huuuge deal for me as I'm already on my 3rd playthru of the gba title. But it's much more focused on story and character development which I'm not entirely sure I care about. Engage has what I KNOW I want, which is gameplay and combat mechanics.. But I'm still leaning both ways because they each have things to offer. I wish I could afford them both 😭
ooof yeh this is a tough decision for you. I guess it comes down to if you want to take a chance on something a little bit different. You already know our opinions on which one is better, but the comments here prove that people are veeery passionate about their fire emblem 🤣
I can't go back to playing Three Houses any more. One reason why, I like my weapons not breaking.
Was this a thing Nintendo just put in a lot of switch games?
@@SumKindofGaming Apparently, now if they would just fix the weapon breaking problem in Breath of the Wild when Tears of the Kingdom launches.
@@jasoncummings1970 fingers crossed! :)
I just want to say after playing both I think it really depends on the type of player you are as well I can see the big hype on three houses. I was not a big fan of the Sim aspect tho and with that being said Engage was a way better experience for it. I wasn't as interested in the preparation of battles as that got old really quick engage kept my attention from the start. You mentioned this in your video as well just really depends
Thankyou for preferring Engage and not just getting really angry at our take 🤣you are 100% correct!
It really depends what you’re looking for. If you only care about the gameplay then engage all the way. Story is pretty generic and the characters don’t really feel that important and are kinda of one note and bland. The animation are beautiful but the characters feel off since they feel like v tubers in a play not to mention despite it supposedly being a war. Note engage supports are not very deep so if people like to ship(since some fans do enjoy the shipping they might want to look somewhere else)
3H doesn’t really follow a traditional fire emblem game however at the same time I feel people will like this one due to the world building, characters depts depending on what you pick, decent gameplay.
It really will come down to preference. For me I’ll recommend more 3H then engage since I feel people will like it more due to it having a nice balance between story character gameplay and world build aesthetic and frankly I feel this game might be a good way to introduce the franchise since it will help keep their interests and tons of replay-ability with new houses etc. Engage might be a chore to some if they are looking for a good story characters. I had a friend who tried engage and was not a fan of the series but he got bored because he wasn’t invested in anything despite the fun gameplay.
Thats pretty much it. Unfortunately it seems that Engage is lacking in everything else other than gameplay. Yeh the gameplay is great but its not quite enough to hold it above 3H which excels in many fields
Actually I argue there are aspects 3 houses did better with gameplay over engage. Mainly balancing unit stats and growths. Holy shit engage is not fun to play with underpowered units unless you grind but 3 houses anyone can work with the right strategy and you don't feel punished for it the way engage punishes you.
I enjoy the world and lore of 3H more, but Engage is more engaging to me, no pun intended lol
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Looks like I got more conquering to do for my Empress
Great video and good to always see yall, I have been playing engage non-stop the gameplay is pretty addictive not going to lie although the story is not the best in the series the core gameplay is perfect and I feel like the smoniel has the perfect balance for a break between battles. Though three houses had a much better story I see myself returning to engage more. See yall on the next one.
I personally find the somniel a bit uninspired but your right that engage has a really nice battle sysytem (Tom)
@@SumKindofGaming yeah i do see your point some people weren a fan of the Somniel taking the spot of the monastery. The first Fire Emblem ive ever played was Fates Birthright so the Somniel kinda rimded me of the hub area in Fates where you can quickly improve your units buy supplies and head to the next chapter or skrimish. My favorite aspect of the game is that the combat is constant and challenging for a quick session tactics fix is not drawn by lenghty dialogue and cutscenes. Then again I am a working parent so my long story gaming sessions are behind me wich is why I apreciate games that i can have a quick session in and out lol
The switch must be your go to console! Its such an easy 'jump in and out' device.
Engage is just a different experience ey. We heard someone liken it to smt vs persona and while its not quite that drastic it is a good comparison
@@SumKindofGaming Yeah the switch is definetly my go to right now, wich is why I think my next purchase could be a steam deck but still waiting to see if it ends up getting a upgrade. I have both SMT and Personna while I love both games I prefer SMT5.
@@Egrojbaratheon1988 I LOVE SMT5! (Tom)
Unfortunately the steam deck is pretty hard to come by in Australia still, but we definitely want one! 😁
Just found this channel. Great video! I actually prefer Engage over Three Houses. They're both really good games though.
Thanks for watching! 😁 We agree, they are both good!
I like three houses, but i believe engage is the best game among the two. Gameplay wise especially. Can’t bother to spend long hours on garreg mach or somiel lol
Fair call! Yeah if you are mainly a fan of the combat then Engage would definitely be the best choice :)
fun fact, Fire emblem has been going for 30+ years and each title is pretty different from the last other than the 3 gba games.
These 2 are VERY different so we can see that. All with great SRPG battles though we bet!
To cheer you guys up a bit, Fire Emblem is always different. The combat stays similar, but each game is otherwise quite different. But the social sim stuff was also in some of the past games, so there will be another one like that in the future. Maybe the next one for Switch 2 will be like that again. I've played most Fire Emblem games, so for me Engage is like this super nostalgia trip for those who remember the past games. But if you haven't played the past games, a lot of that will be missed on you. But in the end for me personally what I love is the addictive combat, music and art style. And for me Engage has the most addictive combat (to me) in the entire series and the soundtrack is just beautiful, I also feel the art style is amongst the best. The character designs are my favorite and equal to Awakening (one of the most legendary entries in the series). But that's me. Everyone probably loves Fire Emblem for slightly different reasons. Personally like you guys said, I tend to prefer Engage over Three Houses because I'm not such a fan of the social sim stuff. And Engage has a more addictive combat system, to me. And the soundtrack for me is to die for. But I love all of the Fire Emblem games. I really love Fates so much also on 3DS, Fates and Awakening were incredible.
I've never played a fire emblem game, I'm not particularly interested in the stories, just interested in the tactics. Would you recommend engage or three houses
@@leftovernoise just my opinion but gameplay wise I think Engage is the best it’s ever been 🙏 for me at least the gameplay is very addictive.
@@lassesuurmunne8340 awesome, I'll give it a go. I'm not big on anime or jrpg stories but if the actual tactics are on point then I'll try it
Both games are good. I simply can't choose between them. In my opinion, fire emblem engage should have its own spin off game since they made 2 fire emblem warriors games like a fire emblem warriors engage or something like that
Judging from some of the comments on this video people are VERY passionate about which one they like, so its nice to see this take! Thanks for watching
I prefer three houses it feels more like a RPG in my opinion when it comes to choosing your own path throughout the story huge replay value. Also the better characters, music and atmosphere three houses have over engage. Engage is not a bad game it combat is better but in my opinion almost everything else was a downgrade. There were parts of the story I fell asleep on very bad boring dialogue. Also a huge difficulty spike in the last couple of chapters enemies keep respawning is extremely annoying.
That difficulty spike in the final mission is brutal!
3H is more of an RPG, Engage is almost like a straight tactics game - akin to something like advance wars (But obviously not quite that extreme)
Engage:
- Less Classes
- Less Characters
- Less Weapons
- Less Choice
- Less Freedom
- Child Soldiers instead of real ones in a war game...
Long story short:
Aside from visuals (Which to me don't matter) as a fan of TTRPGs and interactive novels, every other aspect suffers greatly compared to 3H.
All they had to do to expand the franchise, instead of underwhelm it, was build on the formula (improve) the systems that were criticized in 3H.
Thats it.
Our whole point was why didnt they just improve on the succesful formula they'd created with 3H.
@@SumKindofGaming The honest truth is pretty ugly.
The Short Version:
Nintendo put a New developer as the lead for the game who had no experience. A basic "Yes Man" who likes action games and not turn based tactics games, and was heavily influenced by Nintendo wanting to aim for a New Younger Audience which meant dumbing down the game, and making it flashier.
The Long Version:
If you read the "Ask the Developers" interviews that were released. The guy in charge (Tsutomu Tei), had never been a director of a game at IS before, and seemingly never discusses having any previous experience working on a FE game. So while I can't say what his previous role was, if any, it doesn't seem to be significant enough to mention in his bio.
I'd link the Nintendo article, but RUclips is pretty finicky with links these days. (Typing Ask the Developer Vol. 8, Fire Emblem Engage Part 1, 2, and 3 should get you too it)
If anything, just someone picked by Nintendo to lead the development.
Listening to the other two employees of Nintendo that were in the interview. Tei and the two mention wanting to "appeal to a broader audience" and saying that RPG mechanics such as the Awakening / Fates marriage system took too long to play out in the game. According to them it "wan't fun" so they developed the Emblem Ring idea instead. With the goal of intruding the "fun elements" early on.
I'll quote the Nintendo stooge "Higuchi: We wanted to introduce this fun element for players as early as possible. I felt that the fun of tactical RPG games wasn't as intuitive or immediate as that of action games."
So basically you had Nintendo heavily influencing the game with employees who were more interested and familiar with Action games than tactics RPGs.
Then from the games IS developer,
"Tei: People often say that turn-based tactical RPGs seem difficult or too complicated... In fact, I’m not very good at them myself."
Take of that what you will, I take it as even the new IS dev wasn't interested in making a Tactics game. Just taking orders and advice from his Nintendo handlers.
"Tei: We had several candidates. We were looking for an artist whose design style would appeal to a broad audience - including younger players - as well as the ability to portray a variety of characters. Among the candidates, Mika Pikazo-san's drawings were colorful, vivid, and really popped! They were a perfect fit for the flashy direction we wanted for this title."
So from that we can see the "broader audience" meant appeal to children. In spite of marketing toward long time fans, which makes no sense since new players and young players would not get any of the references. So basically they tried to do both and focused on the younger new audience by lying to the older one.
As it would seem, the games development and design was all over the place. Trying to create a game for a new younger audience, while throwing a bone to the old players to make it seem like they were not being abandoned when they were.
As for another section about their Artist choice that influenced the game in a bad way.
"Tei: Well, I thought it'd be better to be upfront about the request. That said, there was one concern she had. Since she usually draws young characters, she was concerned about her confidence level in some of the character design."
So to answer why all the characters were loli or V-tuber style. It's because that's the only style the artist knew, and he went with it. Also, it also turns put it was her idea to make toothpaste-chans hair color red and blue. As before Tei just went with whatever he was told, advised, or requested.
From everything I have read, Tei should never be in charge of any product. Unless he was specifically chosen because he just follows orders and has no skill as a leader or director.
"Tei: As I mentioned at the beginning, I'm not very good at strategy games myself, so during development, I hoped to create a game that even those like me would want to try out or find interesting."
@@techpriest6962 this was a really well written comment! We didn't know about Tei's involvement. it seems like an interesting choice to put someone in charge of developing a turn based strategy game like this when they don't even have much experience in playing them.
there's not enough room to reply to everything here but we just wanted to thank you for all your insightful information!
Three Houses was also my first game in the series, and while I liked the way that the story and the classroom mechanics really made me grow to understand and love the characters... in terms of gameplay the monastery stuff and the "dating sim" requirements for recruiting were by far my least favorite part of the gameplay. I was really more there for the srpg gameplay.
Even in something like Persona, the time-restricted dating sim aspect is also my least favorite. If it were something you could take your time with and grind out over a long period, I'd have no issues, but the way Three Houses and Persona puts a time limit and forces you to date sim extensively just kills my enthusiasm for the game as a whole as I'm basically forced to interact hravily with this gameplay aspect I find boring in order to improve the srpg aspect I love.
I'm not upset that Engage removed the date sim side of things, and I much prefer this more traditional rpg recruitment system, however I do hope that the story adequately gets you to love the characters like the Monastery got you to love the students of your house.
Engage is more strategy, less RPG. We found almost 0 connection to the characters in this one they just exist to give you units.
If the life sim aspect of persona isnt your thing have you tried SMT?
I always thought this channel was the cosiest youtube channel there is. Now I’ve seen the abs on this lady and I’m… more frightened than Luigi with a broken vacuum cleaner! 😮
Dude shes scary! If I blink twice in the next video send help (Tom)
I meant biceps but I was having a panic attack 😏
@@SumKindofGaming I’m a hospital chaplain and have a key to the morgue. No worries!
@@johanderyck6598 Wow. Actually really convenient! Thanks 🤣🤣
I have 200+ hours on 3H and 50+ hours on Engage...
When I first played three houses I was a bit disappointed with the story because a random young guy getting a professor/teacher spot absolutely randomly, coaching guys who are as old as him was pretty meh... But when the story continued I ended defeating the game 4 times with all endings. For me this game is by FAR the best game I played on switch even to this day.
The game is about problems which can be applied to the real world we are living in and i honestly think that NOBODY is in the right. Not Rhea, not Dmitri neither Edelgard or Claude.
I personally stick with Edelgards PoV cause she wants to destroy the Crests, delete the differences between nobles and commoners and most importantly get rid of the gods and guys like Rhea who are living for millenia and posses godlike powers. Edelgards message was EQUALITY and thats why I chose her as my first gameplay.
Best story and character writing is in Blue Lions campaign because of Dmitri character evolution and Golden Deer is the most chillout and pacifistic way with best endgame missions :).
Rhea side of the story was the weakest in my PoV.
Okay now, lets discuss Engage...
I had big expectations from this game considering 3H was one of the best games i ever played in my life. The first thing i realized was that the game was much more colorful than 3H and that MC got his voice actor... The game was okayish until the part where MC mother came to stage. Bouncy tits and many japanese anime signs. Much more than in 3H. I didnt know yet if I like it or not tbh :D. One thing im certain i didnt like was the scene with mother of MC dying... It felt so unnatural to me. I dont know why. Another thing i didnt like in Engage were the weird looks of some male characters. Dont get me wrong, I am a tolerant person but it felt to me like half of the male characters were gay or dressed like a girl. I understand when there is like 1-2 characters who are like this just to spread the message of tolerance in the games but in my PoV this was just too much... In general the story was poor compared to 3H, the character writing was much worse compared to 3H and also the ingame features compared to 3H was a little bit worse. One thing which I was certain from the start was that 3H had far better soundtrack than Engage and it wasnt even close.
But I must say that Engage had slightly better battlesystem than 3H, i loved that they brought back the characters from previous FE and also the graphic was rly rly nice. I enjoyed playing Engage at the end :).
In final, i would give FE:Engage a solid 8/10 and FE:Three Houses is a 10/10 no brainer for me :)
You should have made a whole video on your own!
We agree with you for the most part except that the males in Engage all look pretty badass and definitely not feminine - for the most part. Have you explored Merrins background? Shes like a gay furry and she freaking rocks!
Thanks for your huge comment! 3H FTW!
@@SumKindofGaming well maybe you are right and i am a bit biased... i defeated engage just recently and did it only once. I will surely play it again and maybe i will change my opinion regarding those girly guys :D. I didnt explore Merrins background :).
One thing I look forward to is when they will add Sacred Stones, Blazing Blade and Binding Blade to GBA section on switch. I would love to play those games again on switch cause i dont have time to play it on emulator on PC at home anymore :/
@@mayo1273 If only the FE series got as much love as the Metroid one has been getting recently.
We love the GBA and the pixel art it produced!
Engage had find gameplay as far as the battles go. They also had prettier scenery, but that’s about it. The story was bland. The writing was awful. Honestly had a hard time getting through the game because it just didn’t hold my interest. Three houses had amazing writing that. Made you care about the characters, I had an end of the story that intrigued me and got me to play through the entire game four times plus the DLC. The parts of three houses that I didn’t care for were things like tea time, fishing gardening going in the sauna, but all of these things had a purpose, I loved being able to choose the direction I wanted to take my characters new game plus was absolutely amazing being able to keep your professor level and basically be able to get whatever students you wanted. I was so excited for engage when it was announced, I bought the collectors edition And the DLC immediately but so far it is one of my least favorite fire emblems
This is like exactly our opinion. Was sooo hyped for engaged thanks to 3 Houses but its just so different. Not necasserily bad, but it just focuses on other things that we didnt care for as much.
Just throw tom under the bus like that. Wasnt gonna comment on this video since i wasnt to hyped for this game, but you guys breakin a couple thousand views, feel i got too. Hopefully add to that algorithm.
Thanks man! Appreciate the support!
My personal opinion:
Engage wins at:
Graphics
Map design
Combat mechanics (even if the Emblems are just a refinement of the Battalions in 3H)
Main character (or rather, Engage loses less)
Exploring the battlefield
3H wins at:
Artstlyle
Story
World building
Party members
Music
Character building (If Engage let you refund inherited skills so you can experiment a bit, I'd flip this one)
Downtime (yes, the monastery could get tedious, but I don't feel the solution is to double down on tedious tasks and just making most of them safe to ignore. With a little bit expanding of the post battle exploration face, they could've just scrapped Somniel altogether)
In short, the tactical gameplay in Engage is better, but I find it much harder to care about anything that happens. That seems to be almost by design, what with the paralogues of your party members, the people actually living in this game world, replaced by paralogues for the Emblems, with nostalgia values for the old fans perhaps, but with zero relevance to this story or world. They really wanted to celebrate their old titles, even though they already did that with Fire Emblem Heroes, Fire Emblem Warriors, and rereleasing the first game. I'd personally prefer it if IS released more remakes of their old stuff, rather than making the new games about the old games.
I did find exploring The Battlefield a chore. I'd like to have a "collect all" Button because I see NO reason to run looting around and.... Done
@@victorrabello4115 there's one! if you just skip it you get all the fragments
While I liked the story and characters more in Three Houses, I like the battles more in Engage. I honestly don't really care a lot about the hub world stuff much. I feel like I spent too much time in both the Somniel and the academy and I just wanted to do more battles, but not the skirmishes or auxiliary battles because those were not as exciting. I've barely done any Skirmishes in Engage and I'm doing alright on hard mode, but I felt like I had to do the auxiliary battles to keep up with leveling in Three Houses and I got really bored of them, so it's hard to replay that game. Also, in Three Houses I felt like it took way too long in between main story battles, which was my favorite part of the game. Engage gives me more story battles that are more unique, so it doesn't get very boring. I wish it were easier to build support between characters in Engage though, which is another thing I love. I felt like I got a ton of support conversations in Three Houses, but only a few per battle in Engage. It's fairly easy to get support for the main character after you unlock the shop for gifts, but getting support between other characters is more tricky. I also think there are way too many characters in Engage. I struggle to pick which characters I want and some characters just become weak and it's hard to continue with starting characters in the later game (except people like Louis, who is a tank). In Three Houses, each character could go to the end of the game pretty well.
I still haven't finished Engage (I'm about to start chapter 16), but I'm enjoying it for the most part, especially the battles. The story is decent, but not as good as Three Houses. I like both games in different ways, but they're both good and enjoyable experiences. I've played parts of previous Fire Emblem games, but now I want to try some of the older games. I already own Awakening, so I might check that one out next.
Yeah we agree! They're both good games just different :) Let us know if you enjoy Awakening if you end up playing it!
engage i hated, thre houses i loved but soon got bored of the damn school. but tempted to rebuy and push through
You could try another tactics game? Triangle Strategy is an easy recommend
@@SumKindofGaming completed it
I like engage. I was expecting a time skip in the story where Jean. Is older. But i spend more into the grinding amd skills than the story.
Its not 'bad' just lacks substance - unless you're a super fan and the fan service is enough
As a long term FE fan, I understand the comments that 3 Houses is not like the prior games and I agree. I agree that Engage was closer to the old formula, but it lacked greatly in my opinion. The story was very predictable, and there wasn't a single character that was truly enjoyable. They were very flat in my opinion and far to tropey. I'm not a fan of overly tropey characters, or some of the anime cliches like that the game used for characters. I enjoy the complex stories of FE 9 and 10, and 3 houses. I enjoy so many characters from so many of the games. Engage isn't my least favorite FE but it is far from my favorites. *cough* Radiant Dawn/Path of Radiance *cough*
The cnematic part after chapter 21 of Engage is by far the best part storywise. Luckily gameplay rocks.
Blue lions has my soul
ooof. Lauras a Golden Dear, Toms a Black Eagle. Sorry lions!
Dimitri's design after the time skip was fire.
I find a lot of this discussion luke warm. The notion that engage is lesser for having a narrow focus is an undercooked perspective.
The game is an anniversary game through and through, the story is all about the legacy of a franchise that was dead and revived looking to cement its legacy in a world of divergent expectations; as is clear by people introduced through three houses.
The plot of this game is a legacy plot in broad strokes, but in detail it seeks the approval of predecessors whilst creating new space for new fans and old alike.
Three houses in contrast utilises the persona trappings to immerse you in the world of the characters, despite the tedium of grinding through character customisation, the games goal is to put you in the role of a teacher which it broadly achieves.
The consequence of these divergent focus and expectations is that fundamentally each experience is compelling for different reasons.
Three houses is compelling for its world building and interconnected visual novel narrative, but bloated down by tedious and grindy gameplay. Engage is compelling for its malleable puzzle-box gameplay, and commitment to honoring legacy paired up with innovation and optimism.
Yet to compare these experiences and contrast which is a better entry point; neither are.
Both games diverge from core features of fire emblem significantly such that they represent its potential not it's past, thus they are best experienced as latter experiences rather than initial ones.
That is to say Path of Radiance is the best entry point don't @me
Expecting a title to live up to its predecessor isn't an 'undercooked' idea? A more focused direction is just a nicer way of saying theres less content or less to do.
We do really like engage, even as newer fans the tactical gameplay is enough to keep us coming back for more. We just whole heartedly prefer 3H and we feel like its okay to like 1 thing more than another.
The main thing we wanted to get across is that if you started with 3H then dont expect Engage to be the same.
I have not played Engage yet but have played 3H's. And every trailer ive seen of Engage just didnt satisfy me. It may be fanbase because its not a very long game as well compared to much earlier games. But only nintendo knows.
It's a solid game, but they leaned too much into the emblem ring mechanics IMHO. I spent more time managing rungs than fighting it seemed.
Yes, it does not live up to fe3h, but it is trying to find a balance between old and new fe games and suffer from it in storyline but I feel like that they need to scale things back little bit. Fe3h but still sem elements you just need to look for it hard than in fe3h or fea. It does run better than fe3h on Nintendo switch.
But I will admit that Engage.
Has its issues and 3 houses is the better game.
As of the most recent sales projections. The game just before 3 houses (Fates) sold approximately 3 million with 3 h selling approximately 3.8. The reason I bring this up is that while 3h was a big jump in popularity, a lot of newer fans massively over blow the level to which the series exploded. A lot will act like the series was nothing before 3h and will then act as though games like engage are a “mistake”. And I’m not accusing this channel of doing this. But it’s definitely a sentiment that isn’t uncommon. Fates was the previous best seller and similar to engage had a story that wasn’t too great with massive gameplay improvements. 3h had the benefit of being the first to launch on the switch at the height of the switch’s success. 3h success is more to do with the system and not as much about itself. Xenoblade franchise had a similar result. Launched on switch and the sheer amount of units forced it in to relevance.
Oh the Switch has ALOT to do with it. No denying that. But the series was struggling before Awakening (That game was intended to be the final entry)
@@SumKindofGaming Of that im aware. But i brought up fates because engage is very similar in nature to Fates Conquest. And the discourse surrounding the game is pretty much the same. Where people didn't find the characters or story as compelling as the previous game but found the maps and mechanics much better. Dividing the community on what was more important and what made the game enjoyable. The issue here is that even if we were to assume 100% of the extra sales of 3h were all new people. That still leaves them at a comical minority in the community. So I just don't like how so many new people seem to think they know how the franchise should be in the future and act like their having purchased the game was some sort of gift. There is verbatim comments even on this video effectively alluding to the idea that the 3h formula is simply better and the devs are fools for not catering to the new audience that clearly saved this dying game. Completely ignoring the success of the literal previous entry.
@@SH1NK1R01 I just think what it comes down to is that the hype cycle blessed 3H and those same reviewers are turning their back on engage. And at the end of the day, yeah I suppose if you play fire emblem on normal difficulty without permadeath...what else is there other than the story and social sim aspect? the combat certainly isn't hard enough (at that difficulty) or ahem* engaging enough to hold anyone's attention. I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that you're a maddening difficulty player, which is basically the only way you would be incentivized to push the systems to their limits. Casual players do not want to make that much effort and they simply won't get why the gameplay is so good.
@@SH1NK1R01 if there's such a huge divide in the fanbase due the 2 games, them it's pretty ignorant to claim that the faction you don't like is a minority. If that were the case then games such as echoes would've performed much better than they did.
Wasn't echoes the last game?
I’m so glad they scrapped the teaching stuff. I like to play fire emblem for the battles. I hated the promote system in 3 houses.
I got into fire emblem with awakening, and personally three houses was just too much crap for me. Too much management, chatter, fluff… I hated that. It felt bloated to me. So I’m excited to play engage as I much prefer a streamlined, “classic” fire emblem experience.
Yeh it sounds like Engage would be a great fit for you!
Maybe you cleared my mind! I had Engage but I felt it too slow at the beginning, to much blah blah blah 🤣 and somehow I didn’t liked the rings system
On the other side, I wasn’t so sure I wanted the school and all that of Three Houses…
I think I’ll focus on Engage then (?
So glad I'm not the only one who's personal goal in Engage was to fill the farm yard with cats.
Cats FTW!
Engage is better.
I played 3 Houses 3 times mostly for the routes and charcters but I have no intention to do "Runs" meanwhile Engage is better in every possible way that is just not funny, the issue is that 3 houses gave people the wrong impression about FE. 3 Houses is an anomally, not the norm.
Engage has better performance, more variety, better customization. Sure the characters aren't that great but who cares when the combat is this tight, challenging and diverse.
Sure early game units fell off hard but you can still make them work unless you are doing maddening runs.
The story is just ...pretty bad to be honest with some good moments here and there.
Is just funny how 3 houses get so much praise when the game looks ugly and everything is samey and the combat is broken.
In favor of 3 houses I will say this, 3 Houses is fun, is good, the story is engaging (irony) but it will give you a wrong impression of FE and people might not like previous games, in fact most 3 Houses fan did not play the old ones or plan to.
Hilarious 🤣🤣🤣
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I liked a lot more engage supports than the supports in three houses, I found myself skipping a lot less because they didn’t drag on and over explain themselves
I loved this game but man it does not even hold a little flame to three houses.
New game + not in Engage (Three Houses has a great NG+)
Epic ending not not in Engage (Three houses had 4 Epic Endings + Warriors)
Meaningful relationships not in Engage
A Black Knight or Death Knight Enemy not in Engage
A good main villain not in Engage
A good way way to help lower lv units lv up faster not in Engage
Gold very stingy in Engage
No character development in Engage (In Three Houses Bernadetta starts out has a shy scared little girl and then at the end she is less shy and more bold.)
No Choices in Engage
What you know what Engage does have that will always make it great Louis and Rosado.
Yunaka is our favourite character in Engage 🤣
Yeh we agree with pretty much all of this. The lack of gold can help the challenge a bit, but honestly we still found it was in excess.
3 houses is superior
@@SumKindofGaming I forgot about Yunaka I liked her too hiya papaya lol.
team engage....in more ways then one....😍
As a old gamer who play many old Fire Emblem 3H is really annoying. Engage is instant kif
What do you mean by annoying?
As a new fe player I can't relate at the ring mechanics at engage don't have a clue on whats their story and who the f are they 😁
I take Engage. The battle animations are WAY better.
I have played all of the 3DS fire emblem games and both entries on the switch. 3 houses has TOO MANY life sim features. Engage takes the franchise back to it's roots. While I care about story, 3 houses bored me to the point of stopping mid-way. Where as I completed Engage. I think Engage is objectively better from a game play standpoint. The fetch quests and bonding of 3 houses were annoying.
Engage also got rid of the pointless Weapon Durability system that I have despised.
I'd say I much preferred Engage over 3 Houses as a whole.
I don't dislike 3H by any means. But I seriously can't think of anything from 3H that I want back. The school life section was quite a slog after your first playthrough, having a chance at failing to change classes wasted too much time and resources. and the silent avatar felt poorly executed.
Yeh these are fair enough. Alear can be pretty cringe sometimes though! 😅
The monastery did overstay its welcome, but I don't think the solution was to make a place with even more tedious things to do and just making most of it safe to ignore. Randomly failing class changes was frustrating, but you could always guarantee success if you were properly skilled, so it was a risk-reward calculation of you wanted to try early.
I'll grant you that Byleth didn't work. Alear is a fairly boring vanilla protagonist who gets hyped way too much, but at the game acknowledges the disconnect between other characters worshipping him while being a just a milk toast friendly guy/girl. 3H couldn't decide if Byleth was supposed to be the emotionless Ashen Wolf or the instantly popular teacher liked by everyone he meets. I really wish they'd committed to the first option, which could've played into the later revelations about his heart, and only let him open up to others slowly.
I think Fire Emblem MC's have been criticized enough for their blandness for IS to pick up on it by now. I wish they'd make someone who isn't a universally beloved chosen one from chapter one, but someone with a character arc. Give us someone like Persona 5's Joker, who faces rejection by most of his peers at the start. Hell, give is an asshole who only becomes tolerable through the story and support conversations.
@@bificommander7472 Or another Kris who literally started out joiining the army as a soldier rather than someone who's immediately given a position of poweer.
@@AsianMoriarty I'm up for that. Someone who needs to earn their stripes, even if they may or may not have some important destiny. (I should add, I didn't mind how Rhea treated Byleth as important since there's a good reason for that. But not everybody should.)
I despise engage because of the story and character dialog and the over avatar worship the game might of good gameplay but I will not play it, I do not want to hear the voices of the characters it was like this story and characters where written by children
3H was well balanced for me. Engage was shifted towards the combat, and it was well made as an SRPG. But the amount of cringe in their scenario kinda disturbed my mood during the gameplay, so I couldn't have a clean and comforting gaming experience as my previous Fire Emblem games. I recommended my friend the 3H few weeks ago, and he liked both story and the combat. He couldn't give up on either side. So I decided to recommend him XC3 next.
ooof! Great recommendations! You are a good friend! 😁
Why would you make this kind of video? To stir up controversy?! Anyways...
Story: Fire Emblem Three Houses
Gameplay: Fire Emblem Engage
Gameplay is WAY more important to me when I PLAY a VIDEO GAME.
Because its an interesting discussion and people are interested?
We kindly disagree though. The gameplay of 3 houses has so much more to it for us
@Sum Kind of Gaming I loved the story and characters of 3H, but I couldn't stomach through actually playing the game by my third run. I didn’t like playing the SAME maps and fighting the SAME boss fights on every single route with no difference between the last besides story context. A lot of the level were just kill every enemy or the boss, that's boring. I even eventually grew to detest the monastery and the game's calendar system(cheap Persona rip-off).
@@SumKindofGaming three houses gameplay was terrible 🤣. What weapon triangle also shitty gambits and terrible map designs that's straight forward af.
@@ygr6484 Yeh thats fair enough. By the 3rd playthrough the game has been exhausted. Not sure about the replayability of engage yet as we havent quite finished it but we'd be surprised if there is any
@@SumKindofGaming I think you'd be surprised, harder difficulties and the wealth of viable units you can use vastly outnumbering your deployment slots gives engage a tin of replayability
I prefer the story, battles, and visual elements in Engage more than Three Houses. I love how light and fantastical/surreal the landscapes and characters are in Engage. Even though the story is a pretty standard RJP/ Fire Emblem good vs evil narrative, I feel like Engage does it quite well and I still found a number of characters to be compelling. I also really liked Alear, I found the protagonist to be really sweet. I've only played Awakening, Fates, Three Houses, (and a bit of Echoes), and out of them, Alear is probably my favourite protagonist.
With that said...when it comes to character customisation, side quests, world building and lore, and twists, Three Houses is in the lead by FAR. There was so much content in Three Houses that no playthrough is the same, and you had so many options to really tailor your team to how you wanted. I loved how much depth was given to just the lore and history of the three houses and the monestary, it felt like reading a fictional history book. I loved your point about social sims... Three Houses definitely appealed to my love of the Sims.
I wonder if because Three Houses was so unique and different from previous entries that the developers wanted the next game to appeal to long time fans while also introducing a lot of older characters to fans new to the series?
For me the main elements that matter are gameplay and story and three houses wins on both those (my argument for "gameplay", by this I mean the tactics portion of the game, being better in three houses is just that Engage building the system around using engages isn't very fun, engages make the game easier and less tactical IMO), so let alone all the other fluff that makes three houses better, where as a lot of Engage's fluff seems to be convoluted systems that aren't ever explained and sometimes waste the players time and/or steal resources from the player to test it out; only to find out those resources would be better utilized in other places. (Long time FE fan here, played since English release on Gameboy Advance, I always liked Three Houses).
Thankyou for this comment.
As a long time fan can you help us understand the alleged hate 3 houses recieved upon release? We've seen almost nothing but love for that game.
We whole heartedly agree with you though. Its the little things that make 3 houses' gameplay better
@@SumKindofGaming I think a lot of people in the comments and you even touched on it a little bit, is some people are just here for the tactics, which means that most of the first part of Three Houses isn't really for them, even though I believe that part really gives a good foundation to the story and if you finish and do a New Game+ then you can have that stream lined. To those people I just recommend to go play XCOM or Gears of War Tactics, these games are all about tactics and loadouts, Fire Emblem has always been JRPG mixed with tactics so you are going to get that cliché JRPG story and sometimes it's really good and sometimes not so much but Three Houses was really good. Edit: One side I'll put in here is the main hero/avatars in Three Houses and Engage are both poor in story and gameplay, this could be another reason why people didn't like the games. A character being overpowered too quickly isn't fun and them being overpowered is unrelatable from a story perspective, especially with Engage where your character is revered as a deity.
I would never touch 3H again but Engage will be my FE game for the next couple of years. Brought me back to awakening days.
Glad you found something you want to play again and again!
I played engage for a while and notice this something changed. in 3H any weapon equip you will see it in both on field and combat. In Engage, regardless of what weapon u equip, on the field it will always look scrap metal weapon. this is the only issues I don't feel comfortable. otherwise, engage I like it when weapons don't break. don't have to waste gold for new weapon after 20 times used. also, when entering battle, unlike 3H, in Engage, it took 0.5 second for character to show up. it's like GPU is not powerful enough to keep up with the demand despite Switch is the only platform. there are nothing to upgrade switch either. oled switch is the same as the original switch.
Three houses was absolutely dogshit. It is not even a fire emblem game. No weapon triangle and way too much social bullshit. I don't play fire emblem so I can go to fucking tea time.
What's your opinion on Fire Emblem Echoes?
You forgot shitty chara design and ps2 graphics
What is the best gameplay wise Fire Emblem game ? I heard it's fates conquest by far but those posts were 2-3yo
@@Paolini_18 Path of Radiance for sure
So what you’re telling me is you didn’t make it past the halfway point of the game? Seriously, the weapon triangle doesn’t determine what is and isn’t fire emblem cause more games have had durability than the weapon triangle, yet no one’s claiming Echoes isn’t a fire emblem game. The social aspect of the game is meant to connect you to the characters as their teacher and the support conversations give necessary character depth that just can’t exist otherwise in a story like Three Houses’ while also giving boosts to your units’ hit and crit rates and a few points of might for specific pairs like in past games, plus tea time in three houses is a lot tamer than whatever fates was doing with the face petting. I personally don’t enjoy Shadow Dragon or Fates but I’m not gonna spout some bs about how their “NoT tRuE fIrE eMbLeM gAmEs!!😡😡😡” just cause I don’t enjoy it cause Three Houses is objectively a fire emblem game. It has the tile based movement, the class based movement, weapon types, limited resources that force you to think about how you approach each upcoming battle, and lastly the strategy and planning that fire emblem is known for. If there are parts of the game you don’t like, unless it’s the story maps, you don’t have to interact with it most of the time. Play how you want and like what you do enjoy or dislike what don’t, just don’t try to ruin other’s enjoyment of the game cause there are features you don’t enjoy.
So you're not actually Fire Emblem fans got it
Maybe we're just fans of 3 Houses. The comments section here definitely makes it look that way 😆
@SumKindofGaming no I'm gonna go with you aren't Fire Emblem fans, you're dating Sim fans. I'm not hating on Three Houses I enjoyed it but Engage was a return to form of classic Fire Emblem including past characters that haven't been in the spotlight for Years introducing a new generation of Fire Emblem fans to the classic characters
@SumKindofGaming as a long time Fire Emblem fan I'm gonna say this: Dating Sims are dating Sims and Fire Emblem is Fire Emblem, If you like the dating Sim aspect you are NOT a Fire Emblem fan. Fire Emblem fans enjoy the strategy and combat. It's brutal but it's fact
@@dynastygirl2912get a life nerd 🤡
@@dynastygirl2912the hell is your problem? Quit being such b. The person found some enjoyment in 3H and that’s fine same reason how u like engage. Quit being such an elitist. As long people like the games they are fans whether it’s the characters, the dating part (which kind you supports do help flesh out the characters )or the strategy as long as they are enjoying the game they are fans. Frankly I only liked engage gameplay but the story characther and world was boring I didn’t care for it at all. 3H to me was a lot more fun since I cared about its world building, characthers and the story was pretty decent.
My favorite game is still radiant dawn so don’t bring up any freaking lame excuse how I’m not a “true fire emblem fan” just because I don’t mind the dating aspects. Also as a concept of bringing the old cast so the new players can know about them they didn’t do anything with the characters they barely do anything in engage feels more like an afterthought trying to get veterans to play the game (most people probably remember them more from smash brothers then their perspective game)
this is the death of strategy
less thinking, more anime and ridiculous levels of life sim escapism!
The death of strategy 🤣🤣🤣
bluddy never played 3 houses 😭