2023 BMW M3 6 Speed Manual Ownership Review | Honest Feedback Comparison
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- 2023 BMW M3 6 Speed Manual Ownership Review. What I Love & Hate.
So far I am really enjoying the daily driving of my new 2023 BMW M3 RWD 6 speed. The comfort is excellent, the tech is so easy to use and works really well and the suspension tuning, braking and driveline are outstanding. The only complaints I have really are on the lack of better materials for the dash and doors considering how expensive this car is. I also am having a hard time getting used to the BMW steering which does not snap back to center like most cars. I am welcome to feedback and mod suggestions as I first want to do something with the shifter assembly. I want to do a front carbon fiber spoiler, redesign the front grill, lower it just a little, swap into Michelin Pilot tires and do an exhaust mid-pipe section to start so if anyone has suggestions
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Sorry to hear all your issues but to my experience the last 30 years of motoring, few cars electrics resist flooding. I am on the 5th year in my Giulia Quadrifoglio and it’s been and still is troublefree. Congrats on the BMW.
I’ve been following your channel for almost 3 years and based on your reviews you are the reason why I purchased a Giulia Quadra folio 2023 still waiting on it. My heart kind of sunk when I saw your video a couple weeks ago about your final straw with AlfaRomeo, and after everything that’s happened with your car. I really don’t blame you for doing what you did and I wish you great luck with your BMW M3 I hope I have better luck with dealer support, looking forward to more reviews!.
Great to hear!
Man. The M4 coupe looks good, but the M3 4 Doors will make life a lot easier for me. I would’ve option the same exact spec like yours too. 6 SPD MT all the way.
Maybe I'm in the minority (literally lol) but I absolutely love the Front Fascia!
it is very different and growing on me the photos and video really depict it differently than in person and color of the car really does also affect the front end vibe
The QF may win the beauty pageant here (at least in the front end) but doesn’t sound like it was worth the stress. Piece of mind is really priceless. When you spend top dollar for a high performance sports/luxury car you’d expect the best reliability and service. I think this is a great buy and replacement for the Alpha…Plus now you’ve got 3 pedals! Congrats!
exactly if the M3 wasn't 6 speed i would never have bought it this is what steered me to take the chance and make the change on the spot.
That's "Alfa".
@@rlsedition oh shit right! 🤦♂️
My Mini Cooper does the same thing (made a video on an off ramp, wheel stays turned) doesn't RTC=Return To Center. Mini/BMW dealer is great, they tried reprogramming the EPS and let me test drive other models, all had the same trait.
Owned a "new" 2020 QV for 4 months, car, dealers even (the idiots on) the forums were bad. Note: You seem to be the only reviewer that comments with detail on steering feel. 👍
thanks for sharing BMW adopted Active EPS Steering in 2004 I first had it on my 550M Sport and so many customers hated it and were crashing into curbs because of how reactive it was. They really have improved their EPS and in Sport mode it feels much better and more natural and I think better tires and an alignment might do wonders on the new M3. Thanks for watching and I love sharing technical details and comparisons of other cars in my content and feel this is what makes what I do here quite different. I actually work on cars for a living modifying, servicing and restoring them so most other channels do not have hands on experience with cars and engineering.
@@autofanaticcars heres the video of the off ramp. ruclips.net/video/dsoKAXTszfs/видео.html
You praised the Giulia so much, you were delighted that it was the best sports limousine you had ever driven and why this now?
I guess you failed to watch the actual video and read some of my replies in the comments
I wondered the same thing.
@@autofanaticcars I watched your videos because of the Giulia.
It’s the newest cool thing. It happens 😂
Aesthetically Giulia QV>M3. Build Quality M3>GQV. Steering GQV>M3. Braking M3>GQV. Tech M3>GQV. Emotional Appeal GQV>M3. From a performance aspect I like the fact that the M3 has a manual although they should have hired a Miata engineer to design the shift linkage; don’t like the pumped in engine noise. Your GQV was screwed from the moment the water damaged the electrical system-same thing could happen to the M3 or any modern car however. Italian and British cars suffer from electrical woes but German car plastics, particularly those under the hood, breakdown over time. Shame about the dead steering on this car-inexcusable on a performance car imho.
BMW allegedly better post purchase service but when my X3 had a problem both the dealer and BMW Assist left me stranded on 684 for hours.
Looking forward to the mods.
Clearly Alfa QV was a better drivers car, this looks ugly, sounds boring, has no emotion and is heavier! It’s sad that Alfa has terrible customer service support which made you switch to this
The lack of Full Merino leather is a bummer. It should still be an option, but I’m sure it has an extended lead time that wouldn’t be feasible. I’m sure I’d forget about it the moment I get behind the wheel. BMW really did a real great job with this generation.
Full Merino leather is an option which I got. I waited 5 months for a production number with delivery in March/April.
wouldn´t buy this without the full leather
@@GOOGLM3_NY that’s what I thought. The wait is a bummer but totally worth it imo.
Full Merino is still available. I believe his dealer lied to him to get him a car that’ll get here sooner or someone backed out of this car
As someone who also had an M3 comp and totaled the car on the Pzero on a cold and rainy day. I say don't risk it man, I was merging onto the highway and lost all traction in the rear causing the car to 180 degree rotate on me. Lucky the car is built really well and I was able to walk out of the car that rolled. Stay safe and congratz on the new car 😀 I know I had a blast with the 2 months I had it.
yeah problem is no tires in stock right now with the odd ball sizes. I have an order in for the Michelins but they might not arrive til January or February 2023. Still trying to see if someone on Ebay has tires I can scoop up quicker as temps are dropping now fast.
car's awesome, sound's great but your alfa Romeo videos made me to own one. Alfa's sound can't be compared to any other car. it's one & only. Video rocks
wait til i put the new exhaust on this youll be very surprised how good this car can sound
Valvetronic cross back exhaust with a mid-pipe change and these cars sound phenomenal. You don’t even have to upgrade the downpipes off the turbos
Valvetronic sounds killer but I have my eyes on something that i feel sounds even better but the company has been hard to get in contact with lately so we will see but Valvetronic is sick!
Change is always good and is already re-inspiring you. Will be interested to see where you go with the M3. As a follower who made some of the modifications you recommended on my 2018 QV - I am interested in your thoughts here. Although it’s not an excuse for poor service, Just wondering if the dealership ghosted you because of all of the modifications you made with after market parts, claiming that it voided the warranty. So far so good on my QV, but I am approaching 4 years and will need to extend warranty if I decide to stay with the QV. I do worry about future potential issues being challenged, though the burden is usually on the dealership to prove the modification caused the failure.
nothing to do with the mods on my car all the problems stemmed from the water leaking in the cowl which went on for 6+ months and this literally destroyed the entire electrical system on my car and the Alfa warranty only was willing to band aid repairs instead of gutting the car and replacing every harness and module and i had to live with the most unreliable and unsafe car in 30+ years of car ownership.
@@autofanaticcars in one of your videos Alfaromeo give you a New 2021 quadrifoglio that you pay , I remember all the improvment that you show compare the Red 2018 vs 2021 , if you 2018 give all the trouble, why you keped and sold the new 2021 and no viceversa?
Car is gorgeous. Love everything about it. Looking forward to all the content about the mods
thanks, the color really sets off my senses it gives me such an uplifting vibe this shade of green and orange i love it.
I love Isle of Man Green, I love the Sakhir Orange interior - but together? I've seen this combo in the flesh and I can't imagine living with it. But color is a personal preference thing, and hopefully you still like this combo down the road. Thanks for the nice review.
in the video i was thinking it needed more orange accents but i honestly like how its just the seats and not the dash and doors like last years model that would annoy me long term but so far i love this color combo it is very unique
Great review! I honestly love that spec!!! I guess the best way to make the seat go all the way back when you park is to save the seat setting to number 2 and just press it after you park
yes good idea and its funny i tried that and it makes it even harder to crawl out of these seats lol. My new video on the M3 will go live in a few days as i passed the break in period and have been daily driving it for 2 months now
Had to wait a couple days to have time to watch, I was never a BMW fan because they all look alike, so the “pig nose” I actually like… the spec on that car is awesome and I’m sure it’s an incredible “driving machine “… if. Could find one, I’d be interested 😂 I had a 2019 Giulia Ti, nothing but trouble! Mostly starter relay failures, sold it! I have a 2019 Stelvio Lusso, which is perfect, love it, and don’t get the reliability differences between the two models. I don’t blame you at all… look forward to modes and reviews on the G80.
Im a big fan of the front tbh. It looks like a beast and gives it character
this car has gotten more thumbs up and positive comments on the road in 1 week than my Alfa got in 4 years.
Love the new car. Your content is amazing and you are very generous with your expertise. I have an 18 Quadrifoglio and it has been amazing. For two years I had a 45 mile drive to work and I never had an issue. I changed the brake pads at your recommendation and it improved the brakes but they are still wonky. Cracked plastic radiator and a fuel pump that needed replacing but never left me stranded. I would have done the same as you but much earlier on if my car gave me so much trouble.
My comment concerns something you said regarding the superior engineering of M vs ct4 BW. ( I have one on order!). I’m not sure I agree that the M is better engineered where it really matters. The caddy has been thrashed by numerous journalists on track with no failures or hiccups that I’m aware of. Also you have had that beautiful M for less than a month and are already planning on modding the shifter and fixing the steering behavior. These two input points on the ct4 have been praised as being near perfect. I concede the interior and exterior finish quality gap is real and favors the M, but don’t plan on changing anything about the blackwing’s appearance.
All of this is to say that while your choice of car is truly terrific, the CT 4 deserves a bit more love!
And my wife is letting me keep the Alfa!
yeah the CT4V BW is an awesome car I still feel it was the benchmark in this class, the ATSV destroyed the M3 when the F80 M3 was out. The steering and shifter on the CT4V are perfect, only thing that steered me away was the limited aftermarket support for such a niche model and dealers by me are not plentiful and service was mediocre to say the least. I owned many CTSV years back and the only loaner cars I would get would be Enterprise Rentals that were subcompact junk and this turns me off because Mercedes and BMW give you their brand loaner in house. After my 4 years of hell with the Alfa i needed better after sale support. Keep me posted when you get the CT4V love to see it
@@autofanaticcars will do amigo!
I think the biggest issue for me with the caddy is
1. The back seats might as well not be there as even small children would feel cramped
2. The styling is 50+ on the exterior. Tried to fall in love but it just looks so old man. The interior is pretty piss poor. Creaks and stuff by the reviews I've seen within 1st year of ownership.
3. Power train is much better on the M. Ct4 has the better shifter but the engine isn't as good as the s58
4. At the end of the day it's a GM which I don't love.
Your M3 looks stunning in that unique color. Like many others I find the front grill is a weird design. If you come up with a nice alternative I’m sure many owners will be interested in swapping out the OEM grille. The wheels look great with that exterior. Enjoy the new ride.
Thanks! Will do!
Have had my QV just shy of 5 years. No issues and a super local tech for service. Dealer stopped carrying Alfa so they will only do non warranty or "extended warranty" work. Since my car has been out of warranty for close to a year, it's not a problem. Let's face it, Alfa dealer support has always sucked. Not just in the US but world wide. Its sadly, the price of admission. Even though my ownership experience has been great and I can't stop looking g at the car even after all of these years, I am now in the market for a new car and will likely take delivery of an M3 6mt in the next six months. Just looking for something different with a manual al transmission. Still love the Alfa.
nice let me know when you get the M3 i honestly love the manual gearbox it was the only way i would have bought the car
Nope. Alfa Romeo for me, in Montreal Green. No fake sounds. It took Alfa to set the bar in 2016 and it is still utterly brilliant.
nobody promoted Alfa Romo as much as I did for 4 years on social media but you need to realize owning any car without manufacture and dealer support is not worth owning these days. there are just so many more options in the market from Audi, BMW, Porsche AMG etc and Alfa has zero modern day technology in any of their cars still for the 2023 model year. there is a reason why their sales are terrible globally these day and thousands of owners walked away from nightmare ownership experiences like myself. I am the only one who lasted for 4 years of agony.
@@autofanaticcars A sad ownership experience clearly, and sorry you had it bad. Happily in the UK we appear to have far better backup. My comment was about the car anyway, and in 2023 the Giulia is getting LED lights, new big digital displays, NFTs etc etc etc that the Tonale has. Worth the wait if these things are important. As a driving experience as is I'd still back the Alfa anyway, and it still looks sensational - it's respected too.
It’s the “weakest link in the chain” - The manufacturer, the car and the dealer. I’m new in north Texas and was very anxious regarding my first dealer service. I asked to see the service manager, and although I had no appointment, he brought me into his office, and spent 10 minutes discussing my situation. The dealer provided shuttle service. The repair was performed in a timely manner and the dealer warranties their work. This dealer is a twenty mile drive for me - but they have earned my patronage. Just recently my battery suddenly died - the dealer was able to get me in and out, without appointment, on a Saturday afternoon within an hour. This dealer is a major asset for the manufacturer. It’s a shame that the ownership experience of potentially great car can be undermined by a substandard dealer network. Happy BMW Motoring.
today service is lacking in every single industry and on a car of this value the after sale support is more important than the car itself because for 4 years i was neglected with proper customer support and simply got sick and tired of it the last time the car glitched out and lost the brakes that was the final day i was willing to deal with this any longer.
manual for ever ❤❤❤❤❤
Love hearing the mental gymnastics to figure out why the steering isn’t great. There’s really not much you can do. This is the reality of modern BMW steering and has been for quite some time. It’ll never be as good as the Alfa.
Really nice spec on the G80! Congrats!! You should put some Michelin alpin tire’s…I have them on my FK8 and love them
impossible to get any winter tire for this car now even if i bought smaller rims nothing is in stock anywhere with the continuous shortages.
Love the spec, Hate the front end! Look forward to your content.
il be working on the front end as a cool option this car gives me so many options to design and develop products for.
@@autofanaticcars BTW, Alfa dealer support is bad in middle Tennessee, also. That's why I have classic Alfas only now.
i can only imagine that was another reason I let my car go when we relocate the headaches would be unbearable
I pulled my G80 wheels off and ceramic coated them the day I took delivery. It makes a huge difference and makes it easy to clean.
yeah the biggest issue is the wheel finish is horrible in the barrels too much texture but i use our Auto Fanatic Wheel Cleaner in the foam cannon, blast the wheels and hit with the turbo nozzle on my pressure washer. i do this twice a week and its super easy to keep these clean without fuss.
@@autofanaticcarsI just installed iSWEEP 1500 ceramic pads and it cut 85% of brake dust and zero brake squeal.
Could your Alfa being unreliable be partially caused by you moded the crap out of it?? I’ve had a stock Giulia quad for 3 years without any problems except the battery dying once
nope the car leaked water two years ago for over 6 month with multiple failed repair attempts at dealers and this ruined the entire electrical system, once that happens the car is pretty much a flood car and every time it rained hard or temps went below 40 the car was stuck broken immobilized i was sick and tired of it. I should have sold it two years ago
@@autofanaticcars sorry you had a bad experience. Hopefully you’ll have a better experience with the BMW.
Dear Sir, I hope you are well. I have been watching your auto reviews and the information you share on your channel. I wanted to say that in my opinion, you have the best commentary and combination of technical and layman points, available on RUclips. Furthermore, I am thinking of buying an M3 just because of your indepth analysis of the vehicle. Thank you so much for the time you take and the obvious effort and consideration you put into making these videos. It is much appreciated. Kindest regards, Zeyn
Thank you for your kind words and understanding that I work on cars for a living and try to discuss this in my reviews technical details most reviewers never discuss
have those same wheels on my M2C and I'm riveted to see you specifically make a video about the best methods and tools for effectively cleaning them. Especially one that doesn't require removing the wheel. congrats on the car.
watch some of my Instagram clips I show the process using our Auto Fanatic Wheel Cleaning Foam and pressure washer they are not that bad once you adopt a system of doing it. I know them all out in under 15 minutes including the barrels now.
Enjoy the SSK (when you get it). We have been doing our best trying to keep up with demand. We also noticed that our delrin shift knob matches some of the interior trim but also compliments the shifting action a bit with its slightly taller than OEM profile.
hey thanks for reaching out are you affiliated with the manufacture Future Classic on these if so please shoot me an email direct my email is in the video description if I can ask you some install questions before I tear into it next weekend. thanks
Sent your a message through the website.
'21 G80 M3 Base owner here! I don't know if you're aware, but driving without the gear shift assistant makes the revs drop faster. I noticed that the rev hang drops slower using gear shift assistant on. Would you agree? Also, great content!
Thanks for the info! I need to pay more attention now to this, wish it wasn't so cold out the tires are all over the road and i can not really give solid throttle inputs yet.
any manual trans can be shifted without the clutch as long as the car is rolling enough to not stall out in second gear, that's not a feature
Funny, you spoke sooo good about the Alfa when you had it. Now you talk about it like it's an annoyance.
Don't you miss the Alfa's sharp steering?
I do not miss the Alfa and you know why? Because it would not start now with the cold temps and bad weather and I would not be driving it as a result. After the water damaged the electrical system the car was basically a flood car and too dangerous and unreliable to continue to own. I may buy another one in the future but my 2018 had to go
What you think about spacers ? I’ve seen some and they look good but want your opinion on messing with the drivability of the vehicle or not
Hey, first of your videos I've seen. Really appreciate the candid and detailed comments. I love the green and I love the orange but I could never do green over orange! - Former F80 manual M3 owner thinking of a G80.
You have to see this spec in person the orange is not really a true orange more like a tobacco tan color and it really works on this car with the contrast
Setting the QV reliability aside. Which is the better drivers car? I’m considering a 2023 QV or a G80.
4 months in now on the G80 i honestly enjoy it more because of the manual gearbox and with the REMUS Race exhaust it is way louder than the QV ever was and it resonates the floor, pedals etc like a real race car. The visceral sounds and feel remind me of my Shelby GT350R so it all depends what your looking for to be honest. If you need AWD then an Audi or BMW X Drive might be for you. If you want RWD and a manual 6 speed the only choice is the M3 and Cadillac CT4 V Blackwing. Not many options out there so it depends what you truly want and how will you use and drive the car. the QV is an awesome car but very dated in terms of options and tech so also consider that was well where as BMW allows so much personalization and options still where as Alfa is quite limited.
Nice video. There is an extended leather option ($2.5k) that has the orange leather go higher up the doors and lower dash. I believe the top dash is leather too.
yeah this car i did not special order but if i did i may have selected that but i dislike too much orange i was looking at videos of 2022 models and the lower orange dash would really bother me i think long term. kinda happy with how i got this one still loving it so far
@@autofanaticcars Yea, agree with the too much orange. Nice car!
These orange sidemarkers are very irritating for me as a german, are those mandatory in NY? If not maybe get some painted ones from IND. Love the M3 content Phil
yeah USA requires the orange they honestly do not bother me at all i barely notice them with the loud green paint
I had a regular Giulia and was considering getting a QV but ended up getting an M2 Competition and gotta say that BMW knows how to do performance cars.
better supported brand and a huge aftermarket unlike Alfa
BMW M2 Comp can't touch a Giulia QV for me. Good luck with it.
@@thomasferrarojr.9772 I know it’s a different proposition, but for $20k less I think the M2 is better value and quality. Lots of fun! Better interior quality, sound system, paint quality, plastics quality, carplay, infotainment. Not to mention dealer service. The Alfa dealers in Houston don’t even give you a shuttle.
When do we get the AutoFanatic garage tour video?
Congrats, I hate to say I told you sooo.. but I did. I owned a 2018 alfa romeo qv. Very fast, light on its feet. Quick steering. Dealer network 0.. reliability 4 on a 1-10 scale. The alfa was far better than the f80.. but the g80 is better .. when people spend hard earned money they want reliability. The bmw is just a superior brand. The alfa will always have a space in history that's well deserved. I too own a 2022 bmw m3 manual. Great all around car.
thanks for sharing your experience with Alfa as well, i put up with it for far too long over 4 years I had rocks in my head
Many times are changing and people are getting goofy with car specs. But in my opinion the green with red brake calipers and orange seats just don`t together. Repainting the brake calipers black or orange to match the seats would help. Its a awesome car but the way, just giving a honest viewpoint.
Great review....! Maybe the best solution with your seat is to use the 2 programmable memories. ...press 1 to exit and 2 when you get back in?
Unfortunately I tried everything and after torturing myself for 11 months it forced me to sell the M3 these carbon seats are terrible to daily use
@autofanaticcars yes sorry I only just caught up! Seats are arguably the single most important factor, as you say. Funny how such a thing can ruin ownership. I had a saab 900 20 years ago which I sold after a month because it honked every time I switched the alarm on or off.
Well u did it….if that guilio was breaking down and no good service better u get rid of it. Does the Stelvio have any problems? I have gone back to your introduction on your original 350 when u started the channel. Seen your enthusiasm with the red car. It was clean….damn I miss the Red one! But it’s interesting seeing the progression and your perspective, but still love the red 350! Stay safe my friend!
yeah the Alfa was so unreliable the last two years ever since the water flooded and ruined the computers and electrical system. Several times per week I would have to scan and deal with electrical gremlins and in the rain or below 40 degrees I was usually DOA stuck somewhere. I could not take it anymore.
That green looks insane
“Break squeal because they aren’t bedded in yet” lol. It doesn’t change my man. I have a 22 M3 and they still squeak.
Hi Ryan my squeal is long gone it annoyed me for a few weeks then i took the time to remove the calipers and pads, cleaned pads on my sanding board and applied Mercedes brake paste to the back of each pad and lubed the pins and noise is gone. You need to do this and very meticulous in your process to get the right results.
I have a 23 GLA45 with the bigger breaks, they didn’t squeal at first, but now they do if I haven’t washed them in a week, super loud too hahahahaa. Kinda the same on my 22 hellcat I had.
This is a very painful video to watch. I thought you had accepted all the shortcomings of Alfa ownership (agree 100% with you) in return for the unrivaled driving dynamics. I'm still in disbelief. Regardless, congratulations on your new acquisition especially the 6 speed. Awesome combination with the Isle of Man Green.
nobody would have put up with what I have with the Alfa for 4+ years nobody in their right mind would have. Im so done with the brand because of the lack of manufacture and dealer support and that was the main reason I bought the BMW without hesitation. Loved the car more than anything but having fear to use it every day really got old quick
@@autofanaticcars curious why they are like that?
@@autofanaticcars I can definitely relate. Had the same experience with another car which I spent a fortune fixing to perfection but had to part ways because I was emotionally traumatized after 4 years. Car is perfect now yet I had to move on so my nephew became the beneficiary of the car. Here in the San Francisco Bay Area, we are down to only four Alfa Romeo dealership of which only two are dedicated Alfa Romeo dealerships. So yes, dealership support is sparse and sucks. Fortunately, I don't daily the car and it's been perfect so far.
Good luck on the new journey with the 6 speed M3 and THANK YOU for four years of phenomenal, dedicated Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio video content. It's been a great ride.
You’re missing the full leather pack which adds the orange inserts in the doors as well as leather on the upper doors and dash.
they do not seem to offer this option anymore that was for the 21 and 22 models i was told but i did not order this car someone else did and backed out and that is how I got it
@@autofanaticcars They do.
I just dropped a tear in pain when I saw that stick shift. I cant find a manual BMW in Canada!
I’ve been following your channel from Sweden for quite a while. Your reviews are very interesting and fir sure very personal, which makes them very unique. It reflects your passion of a car you have chosen to buy, adopt to your taste and ultimately live with.
For sure your experience with your Giulia Q’s has been a love and hate relation. Unfortunately the dealership in many countries are not the best, neither in US nor in Sweden.
Keep up your great channe and share your thoughts, regardless which brand you drive for the moment. 😊
I love special cars myself, whatever brand it is, although I have to confess, I’m a true Alfista.😍🍀
thanks for also sharing and understanding this decision i simply could have take it any longer and the Alfa always made me crash badly last week the same day i decided to do the deal on the M3. it was a sign to say goodbye
As a big follower of BMW and your channel, this makes me very happy to see. This car is gorgeous, really excited to see the journey you take with it, do you think you're going to be as in dept with this as you were with the Alfa?
Hi Stephen yes i plan to do comprehensive videos on the new M3
You can get up to 2 degrees of camber which will increase castor, if need more might need camber plates
do you know what the OEM alignment specs are on the G80 M3?
i saw your QV for sale on Miller Motorcars website, recognized the custom steering wheel right away, was surprised that it has that many miles. thought it was upwards of 25k-30k. nonetheless, at least you got a M3 as a replacement (hate the M4, mainly because of the proportions, rear section is too long and missing the hips of the M3) would’ve done the same if i went through the same thing, especially in that spec. exact spec i would get mine in actually lol. for me, if the Giulia wasn’t an option, definitely go BMW
wow just saw it now, funny i bet they will call someone back interested to buy it but failed to respond to my calls and emails last week when I the ABS module failed and i almost wrecked it. Whomever buys that car is taking a huge risk let me tell you.
Hello Phil, I noticed that in one of your videos you used ATE 200 brake fluid on the QV, ATE 200 is a very thick fluid at colder temps, from my understanding the Continental Brake by Wire System doesn't work correctly with the thicker fluids, do you think it's possible that was the problem with the module?
nope the fault happened during heavy rain, every time it rained the car was always having electrical problems it was never the same for 2 years and i think that was my issue, the flooding from the cowl that took over 6 months to correct and even til the day i got rid of it the passenger floor was always damp to the touch
Auto fanatic,
Congratulations on the M3 looks absolutely amazing
And I feel your pain last year I finally couldn’t handle it anymore so I finally moved on from my stelvio qv
When the dealer can’t figure out what’s wrong with your car it’s to throw in the towel
I’ve heard some of your thoughts on going electric
I have to say I’m extremely happy with my new Mustang Mach e gt performance edition
Would you ever consider an electric vehicle
I just test drove the bmw ix M60 it’s an amazing vehicle I am considering purchasing one
thanks for sharing it is such a shame how bad they treat customers but they are the fools in the end because we all have options these days to move on. After sale support is the most important part of any high end purchase whether a car, something for your home etc.
Eight On AF, missed you dude !!
My friend has a 2019 330i xDrive with the M Sport package and when I drove it I immediately noticed the weird not going to center steering too, not a fan of the steering compared to the Giulia. The only thing I can think of is the variable steering where the ratio is different as you turn the wheel.
only cars with steering like the Alfa is a Ferrari
"The new M3 it's just orrible I just wouldn't get that car, I don't care what anybody says, it doesn't excite me and every time I look at it I just want to vomit, I'm sorry I just don't love that car. This car (Alfa Giulia Qv) is far better sound better looks, I think it's far more special." Well this is you just two month ago in your "Alfa Romeo Giulia QV 4 Year Ownership" video. It's nice to see the entire video btw
if you watched both of my videos and sit back and understand why then it makes sense. this was not planned it was a on the spot decision after almost getting killed for the 50th time in the QV when the brake system failed and the car flew off the road destroying the bumper and underside. Roadside and 3 dealers ignored my requests for help that day and funny thing my QV was sold to the servicing dealership and the used car manager had no clue it was my car and when they found out they immediately pulled it from their inventory and website due to liability to sell such a dangerous car. Nobody loved the QV more than I did and my videos prove it along with 4.5 years of the worst dealer and manufacture support ever in my life. I will get another one again one day but I need to take a break from the stress and the people associated with Alfa for a while. The BMW is a great car overall and the manual gearbox is what really made me do it.
New subscriber,..enjoy your videos so far,..was wondering how many cars you have,..seems you mention a few.I just got an 18 Alfa QV,..im loving it,..hoping no serious issues with it as i want to keep long term
Watch more content on the channel my 18 QV was a headache got m3 now have 23QV
please don't shift the trans without using the clutch. gear shift assistant only matches the engine speed to the output shaft speed. Rev matching of course makes shifting easier but it will still wear out the syncro faster if you are not using the clutch
yeah i wont be doing this anymore it feels awkward to me doing it.
Nice car! The screen resembles the one on my E class
yes all new cars are going in this direction and all new BMW will have the wide screens for 2023 and beyond
All manual transmission can be shifted with out clutch.
Congrats homie !!
Could program the second memory seat slot with the seat all the way back.
I like the front end of these maybe because I’ve never considered a BMW due to the mechanical reliability and resale reputation.
you can get leather on top of the doors and top of the dash if you option full leather interior
Everything looks good except the front, I’m sure you will make it look better, beautiful color looks similar the Alfa Verde Montreal. I have a 2018 QV, only issue is (service electric throttle control) but it goes away most times if not I will reset it myself, 38k miles so far, I get good dealer service in Pennsylvania.
Looking forward to more videos
ha ha ha i had to have an OBD Autel Scanner and my MultiScan Laptop in my car daily it was ridiculous what I had to do just to even drive the car most days. Constant electrical issues and shutdowns
@@autofanaticcars you definitely unlucky with the Alfa sadly, maybe you should of stayed with the red Alfa you had one time but hey everything happens for a reason. I don’t need a scan tool to reset it , I reset it by turning steering wheel to the left then to the right while moving car forward slowly.
your lucky some reset with the battery disconnect but my car always needed a OBD scan to even get the car started to get on a flatbed due to multiple misfires and fuel related issues, it was getting so out of control. I picked the car up in September after 10 days in service, got 2 miles and the car hit a bump and shut down in I95 almost got rear ended by an 18 wheeler. Was able to pull over, scanned got car to fire up in limp mode, drove local roads home at 30mph, parked it, car was dead stuck in gear it was a nightmare tow it, back to the dealer again, got the car back was fine for 3 days and boom dead again this was non stop for over two years. Rained hard last week, ABS module failed almost crashed thats when I simply had enough of the car and the electrical issues that never went away.
@@autofanaticcars totally understandable very dangerous, I would’ve got rid of it as well, I’m planning on keeping my QV for ever especially now that Alfa it’s going all electric soon
Curious how the M3 compares dynamically to my 992 911 C4S. The C4S should be the least interesting dynamically out of the 911 lineup. Let me know if you’re on the road in Westchester, I’ll be around !
lets meet up would love to video your car one day but the temps are getting so cold now gotta be careful on the roads with summer tires
How tall are you and what's your weight? Trying to decide if i include buckets or not. I'm not planning on tracking but don't want to sacrifice driving experience if the sports seats are couches
Im 5/10. 178lb the buckets were torture daily it was the ultimate factor why i sold my G80 M3 after 11 months i was getting bad hip pains from climbing in out
@@autofanaticcars damn good to know... Thanks for that.
Love the m3, but just can’t get passed the front grill! Gl
Does it have auto rev match you can turn on and off? Also how’s the clutch? Is it beginner friendly and easy to modulate?
car is a breeze to drive, the clutch is easy you must and i emphasize must remove the CDV valve i did a video on the channel.
The steering issue is one another video o saw about that bmw fixed for him
Congrats on the new car. What a great combination of colors. You should check out Matt Moreman from Obsessed Garage, he just got an M3 as well.
saw his car not a huge fan of purple and AWD automatic is not for me honestly if my car was not RWD manual i would have never bought it
@@autofanaticcars completely agree with you! Can’t wait to see all the mods on the car.
Im so anxious to get parts but nothing i want is in stock it is frustrating i can not even get Michelin ties!! first item to arrive is my new SSK which supposed to fix the shifter issues i have.
@@autofanaticcars what’s your opinion on the Pirellis you currently have? Is it much of a difference in performance and handling? I perfer Michelins.
Michelins are better overall but the P Zero when warmed up are fine too but it is just too cold out to even try to push the M3 right now. the car has a funky stagger set up and I can not get tires for it now been trying but the dates are being pushed back now into February we will see if I can source something.
It's not that you can't get leather on the dash/doors, etc - whoever built your car just needed to tick the full leather (most expensive) option.
I raced one of those in my F36 435i FBO MHD stage2+ E20 map in a roll race. Guess the outcome, I bet 30% are wrong. (BTW I was on my way to buy an F82 650 km's from home).
First of, love the spec! I was wondering if the m3 you test drove had idrive 7? If so, how does it compare to the idrive 8 system in your m3?
I honestly do not know the car i test drove was a very early 2021 Comp but the car I bought is really sweet with the tech and use functions so easy to use.
IDrive 7 is great and easy to use. IDrive 8 has all the cool tech
It's a beauty but doesn't beat the QV.
BMW far better built in every way and owning a QV is pretty much owning it all on your own when the brand and dealers suck not only domestic but around the world. I have heard from thousands of owners over the years with bad experiences and it is only getting worse for the brand that is why nobody is buying their cars these days and QV are sitting on lots forever where as AMG and M cars are gone before they even hit the ports.
@@autofanaticcars May be true but that's what makes it even more special, love owning something you rarely see, I've never had real issues with mine, it's actually a Frankenstein QV, after getting my rear smashed in years ago and spending thousands in repairs, it's never let me down, I'll probably leave it untuned, not worth the risk and engine longevity. I do like that M3 and especially the color but looking more forward in the video of your next QV.
like everyone knows when my QV leaked water it was never the same and destroyed the electrical system and computers and was broken non stop and lived on flatbeds and in service it got so out of control can not believe i put up with this for a car.
@@autofanaticcars Because you loved it so much like i adore mine, the only time mine was on a flatbed was after that accident, that water really was the culprit.
@@autofanaticcars Have fun with the new ride, I'll keep watching your videos.
That’s a great build, but I do love the head us display.
The Dashboard kills it for me
guess youll never own a new car then because this is the future for every auto manufacture before everything goes full EV in 7 years so you either get use to it or drive old cars until the Govt prohibits you driving a ICE vehicle. I am not a big tech guy but honestly love the dash and tech in this car
Yep I hate screens I’m an analog retro guy old 911s and my Gt350R I Have an 18 Cayenne GTS won’t trade that either the new ones show finger prints everywhere!
This is beautiful including the grill!
thanks im loving it so far and just added the front carbon spoiler and it changed the entire look of the front for the better. video drops tomorrow on that
can you heel toe comfortably? looks like the middle carbon piece on the buckets would obstruct movements.
im not a heel toe guy but i highly doubt i could do it comfortably on this car
Hello, I have the same issues with the steering sticking. But mine stick to the right instead of left on yours
Though I dont like the nose, this is my next dream car. Currently, have a 2021 Toyota GR Supra 3.0 Premium
Auto Fan you can code the car to get the seats to adjust before getting out.
how though the dash menu? i tried everything can not figure it out so il stop by the dealer when im in the area and ask the GENIUS team to help with that.
Will you/did you PPF? Is it necessary?
considering how bad the roads are in the NYC area yes the rocks and debris are destructive around here
I was shocked to see the Alfa go for this after being a customer for the last couple years, but you have to admit the M3's are still bad ass and it's not my channel. Owning something new is cool and fresh and I look forward to the new content.
had to move on the QV was so unreliable and zero support it was time
@@autofanaticcars God rest her soul. 🤣
what issues have you been having with your QV? I am a recent owner of one and am curious. thanks
watch this channel there are so many videos on what went wrong with my car however the biggest issue is the lack of dealer and manufacture support when things do go wrong. this makes ownership pure hell and after 4+ years I simply had enough.
I went from hating the front end to loving it.
yeah it really has grown on me I got a new grill and carbon fiber lower spoiler going on this weekend
My Audi is like that. The electric steering in these cars suck.
Im not sure if caster angle/geometry plays a part with the electric steering. As far as i know its all in how its programmed.
I'm shocked at did see you there. I basically live at that shell station because they have solid E85. I just got my production number for my 23 M3 Comp xDrive. I got the carbon ceramics. I'm local, if you want to compare side by side. Took some pictures of your car on the showroom floor before you picked it up. Ray Catena.
Looking forward to see what you come up with for the grille!
Very cool!
Such a great car
I actually have a similar complaint with my m2 EPS steering. And I even coded in the CS tuning. Sometimes it feels as it won’t want to come to center. It’s inconsistent for me though. I did an alignment recently with 0 front toe and it’s slightly better, but unfortunately these electronic racks are always going to feel a bit artificial
yeah it seems to be a BMW thing because Ford, Alfa Romeo, Porsche and many other brands do not have this issue. It feels as if the gears in the rack are meshed too tightly then the programming is also a culprit. still getting use to it
@@autofanaticcars yes agreed. My Porsche EPS was wayy better calibrated.
Just bought a 2017 M2 and was thinking about flashing the CS eps and M diff software. Did you feel much of a difference and would you recommend it?
At the moment I feel like the steering motor is quite dumb/rough. You can feel how it switches between "oh, now I need to put more resistance" and "now I need to assist a bit more". Does the steering become more natural with the CS flash?
Thanks!
Did you get a great value for your QV?
considering it was broken i did very well on the deal
That issue with the steering getting stuck, whatsyourforte on RUclips had that too and bmw fixed it. I hope mine doesn’t have that issue! Also biweekly videos is perfect I think. Helping me wait the many months before I get mine
really do you know what they did to fix this maybe I can bring this up to the dealer at my first service visit at 1200 miles. did he post a specific video on this?
@@autofanaticcars yeah he did post a video on it! I would have to dig for it but look him up! They fixed his.
Came here to post this too - they gave his a new steering rack and it seemed to be fixed IIRC. Search for his video with “steering rack” in the title. One of the videos before that one has the actual problem description. I’m doing a bunch of research while I wait for mine and hope it doesn’t do this 😅
You think the red brakes go better than the blue brakes? For this color combo
if it was a custom car i ordered i would have selected black i prefer red over blue anyways and the red works with the tail lamps and side markers. I may custom paint them after winter since I do all the custom work myself
I test drove a M3CS before I bought my QV. It was used but only had ~1500 miles on it. Even not in sport mode the ride was very harsh. VERY harsh. I couldn't pull the trigger. That was probably a 2020 (maybe 2019). Has it gotten better?
i feel the springs and shock tuning on the 2023 M3 is superior to the Alfa Romeo QV. the Alfa is way too soft for my taste which made me do so many attempts to stiffen things up with springs and eventually Kw Coilovers. Even then it still never felt as perfect as the M3 suspension tuning. Porsche and BMW tune the best OEM suspensions on their performance models in my opinion.
I think this engine sounds miles better than the S55 from the F80 did.
oh yeah and now I have the full non street legal REMUS exhaust its insane
Break squeal doesnt stop after mileage. Im 7k miles in and they still squeal.
did you remove the calipers and apply brake paste?
Absolutely gorgeous!!!