He's not just managing the defense of a city, he's managing the defense of the FRIGGIN' DOMINION CAPITAL! Surely Valerian should be doing that himself!
@@meeperdudeify that is a fair point, but you'd think the liaison to (what I assume are) the emperor's mercenary/alien(/reincarnated ghost father?) allies would at least be a lieutenant.
“I need more gas for my scourge” The Upgrade that reduces the scourge gas cost by 50: Am I a joke to you? Also PS:With Scourge Queen, You get 4 lings an egg and 3 scourge an egg Edit: With Scourge Queen you Also get Double baneling spawns from bane nest and you get free scourge from your scourge nest, And +50 Max Supply, But Zagara is unavailable
I think that if Lowko could have used Scourge Queen, he would, but since he plays so little co-op anymore (since there is little value for him presaging his commanders), he couldn't. In essence, at this point Lowko only plays co-op if other people tell him that there is new content worth showing off (here, Boom Bots and Sharing is Caring together). It also means that he isn't as used to the co-op meta as he used to be (and that has been the case since Stetmann was released).
That boombot that ctg paused the game for and that destroyed his own nexus, the code was actually given by lowko earlier on in the match but ctg wasnt paying attention. So technically that was ctg's fault. Just sayin.
I love that CTG is in the Philippines. I actually learned modern Anis which is the Filipino art is quarter stick fighting. My instructor learned it from Professor Remy Presas who is very well known in the Pilippines and across the world. I actually have his book. I watched a video with CTG playing Stetson and wow he was so fast at spreading the Stet zones around and showing us how to maximize in several ways this character.
Another tricky with this mutation is how the Sharing is Caring Mutator affects between commanders with 100 supply and 200 supply. Basically, the 100 supply commander should produce units first and capped at 100 before the 200 supply commander produce units from 101 to 200 supply. But this is risky if both commanders depends on mass units so you can just produce less workers to free up supply. Unless you have powerful hero type unit, you can just hero solo and let your ally take up the supply. Just like how CtG did with only Zeratul and Lowko took all 100 supply. Sorry for the long comment. XD
Thanks for the video! ^^ Did you notice that you can see the shadow of the void shard landing at 40:37 ? I think it is a nice touch and attention to details to create it for the landing animation.
Hey, those drones can be used for static defense. Weird trick with Zag, since it feels weird to make queens with her and I don't know if this works out of co-op since I never see it in multi-player, you can use a dropper lord with a queen to put a creep tumor anywhere on the map and then drop drones to make static w/o having to spend too much attention on creep spread. Useful for polarity since you can backup cannons at ally's base.
This one was a bit hard, it took me a few times to complete it in brutal with Karax and Stetman. Not as many tries as the invisible, ultra fast replicators, though. Still, I love seeing these coop videos!
Interesting fact: Boombots has almost the same AI as propagators, which means killing your spawning base also works for propagators. Although I'm not sure this is a good approach since Sharing is Caring delays your macro and the first attack wave on this map comes so early(2:20 in the game) Interesting fact 2: the sequence of the shards you can attack is fixed, decided by your spawning locations. At last two players would have to kill 4 or 6 shards. And at last another tricky way of doing this brutation is p3 Nova and Swann.
It's funny how when CtG asks Lowko whether he can build probes yet trying to considerate of Lowko since if CtG just builds workers, he would cause Lowko to be supply blocked early in the game due to sharing supply and Lowko is like "Co-op macro is so weird, not making workers right away", so says the zerg player that didn't make queens
To be fair, experienced co-op players do see queens as situational at best. They are better now since the prestiges (since both Kerrigan and Zagara got queen buffs), but it does seem that macro hatcheries are still better most of the time in co-op.
@@BladeWinters Indeed. If the quote was taken out of context, it would make him rockslappingly bad with P3 Raynor (where orbital before workers appears to be the orthodox opening). The co-op metagame has changed so much since Lowko stopped covering co-op regularly; it makes it so that Lowko has to look like he's holding his own even though he's being carried (or coached beforehand) in the newer videos. (Which isn't a bad thing when you are merely showing off the new features, mind you.)
@@kelvsyc8676 Wait, are you arguing that Lowko is a bad co-op player or are you defending his ability to play co-op? Cause I was just saying that Lowko is a melee/ Versus/ Ladder player commenting that co-op macro is weird because CtG isn't making workers immediately while not making a single queen something every zerg ladder player does. He even says that he instinctually over makes drones because he's a ladder player not a co-op player
@@BladeWinters A bit of both. Lowko has shown his skills in co-op in the past, having cleared some of the hardest weekly mutations before ever collaborating with CtG, and doing some advanced builds, solos, and even meme builds before. So he was good in the past - it's just that co-op has evolved since then, and what was good then isn't good enough today, and so you could say that he is "bad" from that point of view. Fortunately, for the purposes of showing off new content, he doesn't need to be a good co-op player, and that's fine; it's just that the bar has been greatly lowered since the past. (In other words, he used to be a co-op player, but not anymore.) After all, he does make a point that co-op macro would kind of weird to a ladder player, whether it be inherent or because of the mutation.
You're using the grid hotkeys so you can type QWE ASD ZXC instead of 789 456 123. Might make it easier. (I've considered doing a few mutations but always chickened out but this is one i'm fine just watching others attempt)
I wonder how well it would work to just fly the command center to an unreachable corner so they just walk to the wall. Like the Southeast corner maybe since you don't necessarily have to go there. So instead of making them stop moving they move away from the fight entirely. They are just ground units. So they should just treadmill the edge trying to get to it. Maybe a Tychus/Nova setup where you both fly off at the earliest chance and don't use a lot of supply. You'd have to rebuild Ghost Acad and Joey Ray's at the expos or something.
The boom bot cheese has been known for some time, even before boom bots were released. There is a video of Ancalagon (the co-op resident master of meme builds) using this cheese against propagators, where his ally floated off his starting CC over unpathable terrain to cause the propagators to stop moving.
You gave him the 8471 code already when it just spawned far far away from the bases, he wasnt paying attention when you gave him the code the first time, it was his fault for letting it get all the way to his base
discord is like that.... Husband has to deal with it everytime he joins his DnD group I think raynor scans would really help with snipeing those boombots
I hope they add something new to SC2 at blizzcon . Atm im just playing the campaign over and over again lol . Maybe a cinematic or a big announcement . Guess im hoping to much lol .
Yes, but it's the first time Lowko has covered it, so it is new to him. Lowko doesn't keep up with the co-op scene ever since Stetmann was released (I'd like to think ever since CtG showed him the Zeratul poop bug, which was the last time he covered weekly mutations regularly), and the 5.0.0 patch note video where he kind of glossed over the co-op changes (to be fair, there were a lot) kind of shows that he is kind of bored with co-op and will only do co-op videos when people tell him that there is something new or especially difficult. (Hence, why Lowko didn't show off Boom Bots in a custom when 5.0.0 was released, or in the first weekly mutation that had it.)
I tried to do this twice, 2 random people, both didnt know how to put the code in, I was the person who could see the code, and I typed it in chat, and they just dint put it in causing me to lose my base
Wait... How did he level multiple ascension levels with one game??? The experience required was like 200,000. I'm currently at level 89 and it takes 10,350,000 to get to level 90
I played with CtG once on Lock and Load. He cleared all the objectives so quick while i was still clearing my expansion lol
a corporal is a remarkably low rank to be managing the defense of a city
Imagine the promotion after the successful defense.
he's a SPACE corporal
He's not managing the defense of a city, all he does is relay information
He's not just managing the defense of a city, he's managing the defense of the FRIGGIN' DOMINION CAPITAL! Surely Valerian should be doing that himself!
@@meeperdudeify that is a fair point, but you'd think the liaison to (what I assume are) the emperor's mercenary/alien(/reincarnated ghost father?) allies would at least be a lieutenant.
CtG is such a Legend I love his Videos and I love it even more when u both play together!
Even taking on ping issues still plays well on this.
besides reporting bots
Lowko you should go for the Clone mastery with Dehaka, It's incredibly fun.
3:45 -- Lowko wasn't joking about them sending smoke signals, search "Smoke from US wildfires travels almost 5,000 miles, reaches Europe"!!
Yeah, It made the sky look funky here in Virginia, and Chicago did not have any fresh air.
*They probably haven't in years at this point.*
Kaleb Hopping here in the deep-south-East we’ve been spared from the smoke...but that’s because we’ve got a hurricane squatting on us.
No anime, no D&D, no numpad. I feel betrayed.
"I keep making too many drones"
Zagara perk of Twin Drones: Hello? Remember me?
“I need more gas for my scourge”
The Upgrade that reduces the scourge gas cost by 50: Am I a joke to you?
Also PS:With Scourge Queen, You get 4 lings an egg and 3 scourge an egg
Edit: With Scourge Queen you Also get Double baneling spawns from bane nest and you get free scourge from your scourge nest, And +50 Max Supply, But Zagara is unavailable
I think that if Lowko could have used Scourge Queen, he would, but since he plays so little co-op anymore (since there is little value for him presaging his commanders), he couldn't.
In essence, at this point Lowko only plays co-op if other people tell him that there is new content worth showing off (here, Boom Bots and Sharing is Caring together). It also means that he isn't as used to the co-op meta as he used to be (and that has been the case since Stetmann was released).
22:20 It wasnt even lowkos fault, he actually told him the code CTG just didnt type it in. it was his fault not yours
That boombot that ctg paused the game for and that destroyed his own nexus, the code was actually given by lowko earlier on in the match but ctg wasnt paying attention. So technically that was ctg's fault. Just sayin.
Lowko: who plays SC2 coop in 3 in the morning!
CTG: *alarm goes off*
Oh boy! 3am!
*boots up SC2*
Lowko: "Can Dahaka eat the doom bot?" Me: That is one a-spicey meat-a-ball~.
Why not it should work?
@@mage0foxy424 I'm merely just reminded of that scene from "The Mask" is all.
I love that CTG is in the Philippines. I actually learned modern Anis which is the Filipino art is quarter stick fighting. My instructor learned it from Professor Remy Presas who is very well known in the Pilippines and across the world. I actually have his book. I watched a video with CTG playing Stetson and wow he was so fast at spreading the Stet zones around and showing us how to maximize in several ways this character.
Thanks Lowko and CTG for the tips on this week's mutation! Helped alot!!
am I the only one that had a small squee moment when I saw old school scourges and arbiters? even the psionic storm animation!
"Do I not have enough anti-air?" he said while rolling around with 60 banelings that he's had since the 4 minute mark...
That last push on the mission is when it gets insanely hard! I beat it first try with P3 Stukov and a random Tychus.
47:46, never thought I would hear Lowko say that phrase, but it is funny!
WHOO! New coop content! I'd love to see you try out the different prestiges.
Another tricky with this mutation is how the Sharing is Caring Mutator affects between commanders with 100 supply and 200 supply. Basically, the 100 supply commander should produce units first and capped at 100 before the 200 supply commander produce units from 101 to 200 supply. But this is risky if both commanders depends on mass units so you can just produce less workers to free up supply. Unless you have powerful hero type unit, you can just hero solo and let your ally take up the supply. Just like how CtG did with only Zeratul and Lowko took all 100 supply. Sorry for the long comment. XD
I love the boom bots! It’s a great team based exercise on top of trying to macro/micro an already challenging experience
Holy hell! It's a coop vid and it's over an hour long...Lowko sticking it to 2020 ladies and gentlemen.
Thanks for the video! ^^
Did you notice that you can see the shadow of the void shard landing at 40:37 ? I think it is a nice touch and attention to details to create it for the landing animation.
Those Banelings just blew up.... twice?!?! Oh man I need to get back into Co-Op. It looks like a totally new game!
Hey, those drones can be used for static defense. Weird trick with Zag, since it feels weird to make queens with her and I don't know if this works out of co-op since I never see it in multi-player, you can use a dropper lord with a queen to put a creep tumor anywhere on the map and then drop drones to make static w/o having to spend too much attention on creep spread. Useful for polarity since you can backup cannons at ally's base.
This one was a bit hard, it took me a few times to complete it in brutal with Karax and Stetman. Not as many tries as the invisible, ultra fast replicators, though. Still, I love seeing these coop videos!
Loved the 2 cans and the rope like phone reference hahahaha
I missed these co op videos so much
Keep talking and nobody explodes: now in SC 2!
(By the way this mutation is one of the funniest things they've made this year.)
Nice! more co-op content, keep it up!
Congrats on 420k Subscribers!
Last time I was this early Zerg only had Lair
Would be fun if you interview him regarding that stuff or something
7:08 "I don't know if creep tumors count" ... nuke bots on creep tumors. Sounds like TvZ late game
That name is very classic the BOOM! bot its like the scen of the movie “this is my BOOM! stick
Yaaay! Coop Content! ♥
That actually looks like a cool mutation, assuming you get a good ally
LOWKO with boom bots try floating your cc to the objective and have the bots blow the objective up
Wow. Playing Zagara with shared pop is just like storming your own marines - TRUE HARDMODE.
You can right click the free Baneling button on your Baneling Nest to keep them from auto-spawning.
1.5 hour of Lowko video and only one brutation. Oh this is going to be full of sweat and tears:)
Interesting fact: Boombots has almost the same AI as propagators, which means killing your spawning base also works for propagators.
Although I'm not sure this is a good approach since Sharing is Caring delays your macro and the first attack wave on this map comes so early(2:20 in the game)
Interesting fact 2: the sequence of the shards you can attack is fixed, decided by your spawning locations. At last two players would have to kill 4 or 6 shards.
And at last another tricky way of doing this brutation is p3 Nova and Swann.
The early attack wouldn't be a problem except for polarity. I hate that mutation the most.
It's funny how when CtG asks Lowko whether he can build probes yet trying to considerate of Lowko since if CtG just builds workers, he would cause Lowko to be supply blocked early in the game due to sharing supply and Lowko is like "Co-op macro is so weird, not making workers right away", so says the zerg player that didn't make queens
To be fair, experienced co-op players do see queens as situational at best. They are better now since the prestiges (since both Kerrigan and Zagara got queen buffs), but it does seem that macro hatcheries are still better most of the time in co-op.
@@kelvsyc8676 Lowko isn't a co-op player though
@@BladeWinters Indeed. If the quote was taken out of context, it would make him rockslappingly bad with P3 Raynor (where orbital before workers appears to be the orthodox opening).
The co-op metagame has changed so much since Lowko stopped covering co-op regularly; it makes it so that Lowko has to look like he's holding his own even though he's being carried (or coached beforehand) in the newer videos. (Which isn't a bad thing when you are merely showing off the new features, mind you.)
@@kelvsyc8676 Wait, are you arguing that Lowko is a bad co-op player or are you defending his ability to play co-op? Cause I was just saying that Lowko is a melee/ Versus/ Ladder player commenting that co-op macro is weird because CtG isn't making workers immediately while not making a single queen something every zerg ladder player does. He even says that he instinctually over makes drones because he's a ladder player not a co-op player
@@BladeWinters A bit of both. Lowko has shown his skills in co-op in the past, having cleared some of the hardest weekly mutations before ever collaborating with CtG, and doing some advanced builds, solos, and even meme builds before. So he was good in the past - it's just that co-op has evolved since then, and what was good then isn't good enough today, and so you could say that he is "bad" from that point of view. Fortunately, for the purposes of showing off new content, he doesn't need to be a good co-op player, and that's fine; it's just that the bar has been greatly lowered since the past. (In other words, he used to be a co-op player, but not anymore.)
After all, he does make a point that co-op macro would kind of weird to a ladder player, whether it be inherent or because of the mutation.
me first half in the mission: this is not that bad
me seeing multiple bots at a time : I stand correct, understandable have a good day
I guess once you've stopped the boombots moving you can do destroy the Void Shards with Han & Horner's Prestige with unlimited Strike Platforms
i mean when someone asks you for a hug they will ofc perform well...after they get a hug
1:19:37 "They build super slow bro!" Lowko predicts a new pokemon
You're using the grid hotkeys so you can type QWE ASD ZXC instead of 789 456 123. Might make it easier. (I've considered doing a few mutations but always chickened out but this is one i'm fine just watching others attempt)
Yeeeeeees let’s rewatch
Relying on your teammate as a requirement in co-op. Hard pass for me.
It was a hard pass for me too cuz I'm unreliable
Yea i wish there would be Coop but single player my social anxiety makes me hard to work with XDDDDD
I never would have thought CtG is filipino? lol
he sounds filipino to me. idk if you’ve heard him talk before
Hes always recording at 6am in manila lol
Dr Boom :
Explosive Stonks
I wonder how well it would work to just fly the command center to an unreachable corner so they just walk to the wall. Like the Southeast corner maybe since you don't necessarily have to go there. So instead of making them stop moving they move away from the fight entirely. They are just ground units. So they should just treadmill the edge trying to get to it. Maybe a Tychus/Nova setup where you both fly off at the earliest chance and don't use a lot of supply. You'd have to rebuild Ghost Acad and Joey Ray's at the expos or something.
The boom bot cheese has been known for some time, even before boom bots were released. There is a video of Ancalagon (the co-op resident master of meme builds) using this cheese against propagators, where his ally floated off his starting CC over unpathable terrain to cause the propagators to stop moving.
If you are doing that might as well destroy the cc since you can't mine it anyways
did you forget your queen injects lowko? might help with the larva production 😁
Says it’s very difficult with a random person “ok so we are going to be doing this on brutal”
Ok so I did it on 2 tries. I used Alarak P3 and my ally had Zeratul with whirlwind and cannons. We had 1/2 bonus.
I think Protoss might have been a better choice since Zerg depends on swarming
maybe now that Lowko showed the zagara bug they’ll finally fix it 😅
only a few weeks late
You gave him the 8471 code already when it just spawned far far away from the bases, he wasnt paying attention when you gave him the code the first time, it was his fault for letting it get all the way to his base
I wonder if Serral and Reynor could do it on Brutal+6 if they worked together?
can't stop laughing at 31:25 ~ 31:33, he looks so satisfied
lol u dont even need a num bad with the hot keys on the numbers being qwe asd zxc
Glad these bots don't turn every unit and structure they touch into copies of themselves! ;D
Wow I didn’t know CtG is in Manila-
20:44 Overlord party!!! 🎉 🎉 🎉
Yea the Zagara mastery bug was annoying. Took them forever to fix it.
Wow CtG from the ph! Im from the PH!
i just realized i am in the same country as CtG huh, cool
you can make a D&D game with a SC2 Theme :D
dude, if a keyboard doesn't have a numpad, it ain't my keyboard, and never will
Good vid
yes it is a good vid
Imagine as a fouth mutation the void reanimators. that would be extremely difficult. pls try it @LowkoTV ^^
Oh no... i just found out that CtG is from PH, i guess its time to sub :D
Way to cheese this, 1 goes mengsk the other one is zagara, mengsk snipes them with earth splitter and zagara uses scourge
If it's yellow let it mellow, if it's red make it dead as the old saying goes
keep up with the great content love your videos :D
Internet speed in the Philippines is slower than Zerg's Queen off creep and very expensive...
This is "Keep talking and nobody explodes" on starcraft
yay a new coop!
CTG is da goat
boom bots existed before :P
discord is like that....
Husband has to deal with it everytime he joins his DnD group
I think raynor scans would really help with snipeing those boombots
Boom bots?
I call those Widow Mines.
Hello Lowko from Philippines haha
I hope they add something new to SC2 at blizzcon . Atm im just playing the campaign over and over again lol .
Maybe a cinematic or a big announcement . Guess im hoping to much lol .
Yeah you definitely are solo pve content is the last thing they are planning on. They made that clear after nova covert ops flopped
I beat this on Hard with a random, but there's no way I'm trying this on Brutal. XD
As a random player... I really wish Scourge were in multi-player.
" Sharing Is Caring ' I think its a Valentine thing"
- Lowko
I mean you don't like It
Lowko
I feel like Zagara has to be the worst commander for the polarity mutation, you know with the halved supply cap and all...
Wait, new? Wasn`t it quite a while ago?
I think this is second time it is used I might be wrong
@@lusians3 you're right. The first time it was used was in a mutation on belshir guarding stetmann's bots.
Yes, but it's the first time Lowko has covered it, so it is new to him. Lowko doesn't keep up with the co-op scene ever since Stetmann was released (I'd like to think ever since CtG showed him the Zeratul poop bug, which was the last time he covered weekly mutations regularly), and the 5.0.0 patch note video where he kind of glossed over the co-op changes (to be fair, there were a lot) kind of shows that he is kind of bored with co-op and will only do co-op videos when people tell him that there is something new or especially difficult. (Hence, why Lowko didn't show off Boom Bots in a custom when 5.0.0 was released, or in the first weekly mutation that had it.)
good fkn content! lowko
wowzers love it
Raynor will be op here
hello from Stream :)
All they had to do, was to let zeratul have 100suply and zagara the 200
Why in the hatchery zegling icon looks like defiler?
I tried to do this twice, 2 random people, both didnt know how to put the code in, I was the person who could see the code, and I typed it in chat, and they just dint put it in causing me to lose my base
For the swarm!!!!!
Wait... How did he level multiple ascension levels with one game??? The experience required was like 200,000. I'm currently at level 89 and it takes 10,350,000 to get to level 90
Hi Lowko