Charlemagne, the barbarian king crowned Roman Emperor three centuries after the empire fell.

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  • @intellectz644
    @intellectz644 4 года назад +118

    History nerds are crazy, always informing the speaker instead of asking questions xD

    • @telleroftales5309
      @telleroftales5309 3 года назад +22

      I'm sorry, did you have a question? ;)

    • @intellectz644
      @intellectz644 3 года назад +16

      @@telleroftales5309 I see what you did there hahaha

    • @MrPlazmaWalker
      @MrPlazmaWalker 3 года назад +5

      These types give other nerds a bad wrap

    • @martinmorrissey5647
      @martinmorrissey5647 3 года назад +12

      A good speaker will always captivate their class and the class then want to captivate them back,

    • @GoodBaleadaMusic
      @GoodBaleadaMusic 3 года назад +1

      Because experts are wrong and we are seeking a complete contextualization of events and not the perspective of some expert. Every human that speaks about history inputs their bias into it.

  • @Carlos-ke3pj
    @Carlos-ke3pj Год назад +4

    This lectures are like gold

  • @edvaneckert2348
    @edvaneckert2348 3 года назад +21

    So amazing! For me as a Franconian German living in Hamburg your lecture is so enlighting! Thanks so much!

    • @rockstar450
      @rockstar450 3 года назад

      Sadly riddled with oversights as I pointed out above

    • @herzkine
      @herzkine 2 года назад +1

      @@rockstar450 agree, but i love the broad approach to so many topics. Every halfway expert sees the flaws in the detail, but in every topic the approach is honest and gives very interesting insights far from just superficial " common knowledge" and prejudices. Yes, because its is so often generally good, i DO get the cringe too often when it is ..."debatable"...

  • @earlofrednecks9533
    @earlofrednecks9533 3 года назад +18

    How there isn't a bunch of movies about this guy is beyond me

    • @HappyCatholicDane
      @HappyCatholicDane 3 года назад +7

      Yes, or an HBO/Netflix series.

    • @cariboubearmalachy1174
      @cariboubearmalachy1174 3 года назад +5

      It is odd. Charlemagne was just as important to medieval literature as King Arthur, and yet today, we see King Arthur everywhere, but no Charlemagne.

    • @thefutureisnowoldman7653
      @thefutureisnowoldman7653 3 года назад +2

      @@cariboubearmalachy1174 because anglo's

    • @Killerbee_McTitties
      @Killerbee_McTitties 3 года назад +3

      @@thefutureisnowoldman7653 wouldn't stop the French or German film industry from making one.
      Maybe it has something to do with a lack of potential for political narratives within the story, I mean it's filled with strong, christian, white men.

    • @chrisramsey6725
      @chrisramsey6725 Год назад +4

      @@HappyCatholicDane Dont hold your breath on that. He is the wrong color to make a series out of these days

  • @AoE2Replays
    @AoE2Replays 3 года назад +5

    This really makes me feel like im back in class in university. except, in the comfort of my home, very nice. thanks guys!

  • @doliver6886
    @doliver6886 2 года назад +3

    Great lecture! These questions should be held until the end though.

  • @UPalooza
    @UPalooza Год назад +2

    I have always wanted a better understanding of this transition. That was very helpful. Many Thanks

  • @koboldgeorge2140
    @koboldgeorge2140 2 года назад +11

    I find the transformation of the roman imperial titles absolutely fascinating. In the letters between the HRE and byzantines you can see the rulers struggle with the idea of what a 2nd emperor, and indeed two empires, might mean. It's a fascinating counterpoint to the chinese imperial system.

  • @alangriffin8146
    @alangriffin8146 Год назад +1

    First Centre Place lecture I ever watched. I’m watching it for the third time now. I love these

  • @martinmorrissey5647
    @martinmorrissey5647 3 года назад +5

    This guy knows his history, one of my favourite sites

    • @RedLancerMoto
      @RedLancerMoto 3 года назад +1

      @@aleksadjordjevic9811 Get over yourself. "Every fact wrong", ridiculous.

  • @trapperscout2046
    @trapperscout2046 4 года назад +24

    I heard someone once refer to medieval Germany as a cartographer's nightmare.

    • @justmoritz
      @justmoritz 3 года назад +2

      It was also a peasant's nightmare

  • @longcastle4863
    @longcastle4863 4 месяца назад +1

    Glad John finally started holding off questions until the end

  • @olligo330
    @olligo330 2 года назад +10

    I think it is much better to tell everyone to hold off questions until the end. They can write them down if worried they'll forget, as surely you will still be able to answer their questions at the end. All the interruptions really make it hard to stay on focus, even though you do a good job staying on topic. But it really gets frustrating with all the interruptions as most of us are focused on following your storyline.

    • @notsocrates9529
      @notsocrates9529 Год назад +6

      I fast-forward the questions or comments because they are grating or trying to show off their trivia knowledge.

    • @ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095
      @ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095 Год назад +4

      @@notsocrates9529
      *_"I fast-forward the questions or comments because they are grating or trying to show off their trivia knowledge."_*
      That is SO true, I do the same and I've commented to him he should tell them to shut up until the end. They are just showing off that they've read some book or other, and contribute nothing to the presentation.
      But this was three years ago, he seems to reserve questions until the end now.
      {:o:O:}

    • @notsocrates9529
      @notsocrates9529 Год назад +2

      @@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095 Thank you for validating this curmudgeons opinion. Yes, he has gotten better about allowing the audience to interject and stop the flow of things.

    • @ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095
      @ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095 Год назад

      @@notsocrates9529
      😃

    • @junefranklin458
      @junefranklin458 Год назад +1

      i dont mind them at all

  • @kaloarepo288
    @kaloarepo288 2 года назад +5

    Couple of little mistakes here -Galicia in Poland/Ukraine doesn't derive its name from the Gauls or Celts but from the kingdom of Halicz which was one of the principalities ruled by the Kievan Rus -"Galicia" is the Latinized form of "Halicz" and the name "Wales" is not related to "Gaul" at all though the French form "Galles" may suggest it -it's actually from a Germanic word meaning "foreigner" and the same root is found in place names like Wallachia in Romania and Wallonia in Belgium -it's what the Germanic peoples called the romanized inhabitants of some of the areas they took over.

  • @nosuchthingasshould4175
    @nosuchthingasshould4175 3 года назад +10

    As far as I know, the Galicia in Poland was a name imposed by the occupying Austrians, to negate the Polish or Ukrainian heritage of those lands.The name stuck though, we still use it. (Edit) Also the word for king in Slavic languages is derived from Carl, be it król, korol, Karol, chral etc. (second edit) I need to stop commenting before I finished watching.

  • @BaskingInObscurity
    @BaskingInObscurity 3 года назад +16

    Despite efforts to extinguish Breton by such things as banning its use in schools, it has many native speakers still. Unfortunately the scope of vocabulary and numbers of native speakers for whom Breton is their first or primary language have diminished. While there is now some effort to provide bilingual education, the number of fluent speakers will soon drop below one hundred thousand. Other extant languages latinic languages, e.g. Occitan, have experienced somewhat of a resurgence, they too are disappearing as primary languages and therefore lexicons falling out of use, even though they enjoy the familiarity of adjacent languages, including French.

  • @simplyroger2763
    @simplyroger2763 4 года назад +12

    Have to visit his shrine in Aachen, Germany

  • @CarsonPowers
    @CarsonPowers 3 года назад +9

    I've watched over 10 hours of this guy and I don't know his name X__X
    Should write it somewhere in the title/description; you're a great speaker!

    • @dorkgirlalamode
      @dorkgirlalamode 3 года назад +1

      And qualifications (and institution) or maybe a bibliography, please...

    • @riekiemitchell9651
      @riekiemitchell9651 3 года назад

      John Hannon. Google him.

    • @jukukalle100
      @jukukalle100 3 года назад

      @@riekiemitchell9651 cant find him, could you be more specific, maybe a university or sth that he's connected to. would like to know his qualifications

    • @riekiemitchell9651
      @riekiemitchell9651 3 года назад +4

      @@jukukalle100 John R. Hamer. I think I did a typo on his name. He is Canadian, a non-denomination pastor and studied History. There is a piece on him on Wikipedia. Hope you find it.

  • @tomcustis9272
    @tomcustis9272 3 года назад +4

    Woman gouges out her child’s eyes and he dies
    ‘He might have been a bad ruler. We wouldn’t want to judge her…’
    Hardcore

  • @tadmcdougall
    @tadmcdougall 4 года назад +16

    This is an excellent presentation that was informative and engaging. I just wish that there were fewer interruptions from the audience.

  • @jameshilford6108
    @jameshilford6108 8 месяцев назад

    Excellent - thank you!

  • @martinmorrissey5647
    @martinmorrissey5647 3 года назад +2

    Its a shame there are not more teachers of this standard

  • @megatronmotors221
    @megatronmotors221 3 года назад +3

    His personality reminds me of the Egyptian expert in the movie Stargate giving the lecture at the beginning of the movie.

  • @christianmyhre7154
    @christianmyhre7154 3 года назад +1

    Good content

  • @c.norbertneumann4986
    @c.norbertneumann4986 3 года назад +9

    Nobody called Charlemagne's Empire "the Holy Roman Empire". It was simply the Frankish Empire, and Charlemagne bore the title "King of the Franks and of the Langobards". The name "Holy Roman Empire" did not appear before the second half of the twelfth century, more than 300 years after Charlemagne's death. Before that, there were just the West Franconian kingdom (regnum Francia occidentalis) and the East Franconian kingdom (regnum Francia orientalis).

    • @musicAle77
      @musicAle77 3 года назад

      hmm

    • @c.norbertneumann4986
      @c.norbertneumann4986 3 года назад +9

      @@musicAle77 The name "sacer imperium" is first documented in 1154. As for "sacer imperium Romanum", it is controversial whether it was first mentioned in an official document in 1184 or 1254. The designation "regnum teutonicum" can already be found in the 11th century, but this was never the official name of the realm but a term of papal propaganda denying the succession of the East Frankish rulers from the West Roman emperors. The official name of the East Frankish Empire was rather "regnum Francorum orientalium" until at least the midst of the 12th century. If you know better, please feel free to tell us.

    • @RealCrusadesHistory
      @RealCrusadesHistory 3 года назад +1

      Charlemagne certainly used the title “emperor of the Romans” during his life.

    • @karlvonboldt
      @karlvonboldt 2 года назад

      The Germans claim him as Karl der Grosse, a German Emperor.

    • @c.norbertneumann4986
      @c.norbertneumann4986 2 года назад +2

      @@karlvonboldt It is true that "Karl der Große" is the German name of Charlemagne. But this does not make him a German emperor. He was a Frank only, and the Frankish Empire included, next to territories belonging to Germany today (or the German speaking area, respectively, like Austria and Switzerland), Gaul (Neustria, Aquitaine, Provence) and Northern and Central Italy. In the eastern part of the empire were several subject Germanic tribes resident under Frankish rule (Alemanni, Bavarians, Thuringians, Saxons etc.) but an ethnogenesis of these tribes to a German nation (or people) had not happend yet. Thus it is historically inaccurate to describe Charlemagne as "a German emperor".

  • @rccarothers
    @rccarothers 3 года назад +3

    This guy is Amazingly Smart!

  • @MartinhoRamos1990
    @MartinhoRamos1990 4 года назад +2

    Excellent presentation

  • @TonyqTNT
    @TonyqTNT 3 года назад +4

    Excellent presentation on Late Roman Early Medieval Times.
    Who is the professor and where is the lecture taking place?

    • @bakters
      @bakters 3 года назад +1

      He's a pastor of some atheistic church of Jesus. They just do those lectures for their disciples.
      Crazy, I know. It's a black hole, though. If you click on it once, their stuff will keep on popping up in your recommendations, and since nothing else is as interesting you click again, so the snowball keeps getting bigger.
      He's a historian by trade, at least. I remember him saying so.

    • @Killerbee_McTitties
      @Killerbee_McTitties 3 года назад +2

      @@bakters "atheistic church of Jesus" uh, what?

    • @bakters
      @bakters 3 года назад

      @@Killerbee_McTitties "uh, what?"
      A hyperbole, obviously. But seriously, they have this church of Jesus, which does not even require you to believe in anything, so atheism is perfectly viable. I suspect, not very rare among them either.

    • @Killerbee_McTitties
      @Killerbee_McTitties 3 года назад

      @@bakters Religion never ceases to surprise andf amaze me.

    • @RedLancerMoto
      @RedLancerMoto 3 года назад

      @@bakters Get a grip.

  • @jordank5328
    @jordank5328 3 года назад +3

    I've been Roman Catholic and I've been orthodox, the eastern church definitely has way more reference for Icons at this point.

  • @weignerleigner3037
    @weignerleigner3037 2 года назад +2

    He chose Aachen because he wanted it to make it easier for civilization 6 developers to create a holy Roman character and a Roman character.

  • @silentotto5099
    @silentotto5099 2 года назад +3

    My wife's uncle is Welsh. Back in the 1950s he was in the British army and spent some time in France. Once he and a few of his army buddies were riding on a train when this stunning French girl got aboard. All the guys took a run at her, but she shot them all down in flames. Finally, my wife's uncle took his shot, and somehow she realized he was Welsh. It turned out that she was a Brenton and apparently the people of Brittney had warm feeling for the Welsh as they were fellow Celts. She'd given the cold shoulder to all the British, but she was very happy to chat with a Welshman. So, he ended up having a very enjoyable train ride.

  • @vangelisskia214
    @vangelisskia214 2 года назад +6

    "The Byzantine empire was clearly, despite its multinational dimension, a Greek empire while its neighbours considered it so, and whose unity was based on the power of authority, in the dominance of Orthodoxy and the use of Greek as the official language."
    Sylvain Gouguenheim, "La gloire des Grecs", 2017, pp. 73

    • @herzkine
      @herzkine 2 года назад +3

      ...thats an opinion...i seldom see mirrored in historical texts...they may speak greek, but the empire is seen as the successor of rome not Athens or sparta.

    • @Miodrag.Vukomanovic
      @Miodrag.Vukomanovic 6 месяцев назад

      Any European Empire should revolve around the influence of the Greeks, not the Romans.

    • @Sphere723
      @Sphere723 6 месяцев назад

      Its something modern Greek nationalists like to claim. But its a weird thing to say as there really isnt a "Greek" ethnicity during this time period.

    • @vangelisskia214
      @vangelisskia214 6 месяцев назад

      @@Sphere723 "After the Empire lost non-Greek speaking territories IN THE 7th AND 8th CENTURIES, Roman, GREEK (if not used in its sense of 'pagan') and Christian became SYNONYMOUS terms, counter-posed to 'foreigner', 'barbarian', 'infidel'. The citizens of the Empire, now predominantly of GREEK ethnicity and language, were often called simply ό χριστώνυμος λαός 'the people who bear Christ's name'."
      Harrison, Thomas (2002). Greeks and Barbarians. New York: Routledge., p. 268

    • @vangelisskia214
      @vangelisskia214 6 месяцев назад

      @@Sphere723 In the "Souda" Lexicon (10th century) Graikos=Hellene and also Graikos=Romaios
      [Graikoi (plural) =Hellenes (plural) (Γραικοί : Οι Έλληνες. Εκ του Γραίξ, Γραικός.) and Raikos=Rhomaios (Ῥαικός : Ρωμαίος)]
      and in the "Zonaras" Lexicon (12th century) Romaios=Graikos=Hellene.
      [Graikoi (plural) = Hellenes (plural) (Γραικοί. οἱ Ελληνες. ἀπὸ κώμης τινός. παρὰ τὸ ῥαῖσαι ῥαικὸς καὶ γραικός. καὶ γὰρ διὰ τὴν πολλὴν ἀνδρείαν οἱ Ελληνες ουτως ἐκαλοῦντο.) and Raikos=Rhomaios=Graikos (Ραικός. ὁ ̔Ρωμαῖος. ̓Επίχαρμος· φιλεῖ ειναι γραικὸς, ἀποβολῇ τοῦ ˉγ ῥαικός.)]

  • @TheCookieGamer523
    @TheCookieGamer523 3 года назад +1

    The Celtic expansion into Spain happened in the Bronze Age along with Gaul and Britain.
    They then during the Roman Republic period expand eastwards into Turkey and down into Italy again.
    They did displace people but thousands of years prior.

  • @Stadtpark90
    @Stadtpark90 3 года назад +6

    9:05 didn’t expect that... - Mormons and their fixation with genealogy- rofl

  • @gllarocque
    @gllarocque 8 месяцев назад +1

    1:11:36

  • @Britonbear
    @Britonbear 3 года назад +1

    Is the word 'Wales' is related to 'Gauls'? I thought it came from the English 'weles', meaning foreigner or speaker of a foreign language.

  • @eldraque4556
    @eldraque4556 3 года назад

    excellent

  • @FuneralProcession
    @FuneralProcession 3 года назад +2

    I like how Charles Vs scepter is 100 fold more expensive then the actual throne of Charlemagne in Aachen (it's made from wood and throne is not the appropriate discription)

  • @RandomNorwegianGuy.
    @RandomNorwegianGuy. 3 года назад +2

    For anyone that thinks that the Holy Roman Empire was just a big mess. Remember that it lasted for almost 1000 years

    • @AthosJosue
      @AthosJosue 3 года назад +3

      It was a big mess, a long lasting mess but a mess nonetheless.

    • @hansberger4939
      @hansberger4939 3 года назад +1

      @@AthosJosue What is the roman catholic church? and how long does it last already?

    • @Melanrick
      @Melanrick 2 года назад

      Great, it was a big mess that lasted 1000 years...

    • @nailil5722
      @nailil5722 Год назад

      the implicit scope of the HRE was an eventual unification (theorized under the Habsburg) but this never happened. Eventually a heavily militarized Prussia took all of that mess to rest to unify it as Germany.

  • @cormacmcquillan828
    @cormacmcquillan828 3 года назад +1

    So was charlamagne crowned in 1753 AD?

  • @SuprSilvr
    @SuprSilvr 4 года назад +9

    The audience keeps derailing the lecture with their tangential questions.

    • @TheNotthediver
      @TheNotthediver 4 года назад +7

      It's just Canadians
      Ooo I'm excited I know something about this one eh

    • @phataton8206
      @phataton8206 3 года назад +3

      Almost every college class in history.

    • @Jasper_the_Cat
      @Jasper_the_Cat 3 года назад

      To be fair, I'm in the US and I'm sure we're just as bad, probably a lot worse.

  • @Silvertestrun
    @Silvertestrun 3 года назад +1

    Ty

  • @lukel7660
    @lukel7660 3 года назад

    Impossible to watch. There is like a 30 seconds mismatch between audio a video.

    • @miastupid7911
      @miastupid7911 3 года назад

      Something wrong with your connection, WiFi /Internet speed

  • @elbapo7
    @elbapo7 3 месяца назад

    Just a point of correction: wales etymologically come from waelas in saxon - meaning foreigner. So i dont think its from the same root as gaul. Their own word for themselves is cymru(welsh)/kernow(cornish) meaning countrymen- similar root to comrade.

  • @MrX-dl5if
    @MrX-dl5if 3 года назад +1

    This looks like an informative history lecture like Rome was an actual Holy Empire. What's up with the video/audio mismatch?

    • @tngrrl73
      @tngrrl73 3 года назад

      Exactly! It's distracting.

    • @Mr_X444
      @Mr_X444 3 года назад +1

      Same name.

  • @simonleonard5431
    @simonleonard5431 3 года назад +6

    Everytime I watch these lectures, Google's algorithm assumes I'm either Christian or whack a job (read seriously Christian) .

    • @markvonwisco7369
      @markvonwisco7369 3 года назад +2

      Same. The algorithm spams me with apologist videos. Earlier today, I had a Robin Bullock video recommended to me!

    • @lordenkidu1876
      @lordenkidu1876 3 года назад +3

      Seems to me that some Christians are gathering in this thread, guards! Over here! there are 2 of them.

    • @AthosJosue
      @AthosJosue 3 года назад

      I mean, what's the difference.

  • @FuneralProcession
    @FuneralProcession 3 года назад +3

    Has there ever been a century without major war in the region of Germany?

    • @miastupid7911
      @miastupid7911 3 года назад

      No. Not even the 21st. It's called commerce in the EU.

    • @RedLancerMoto
      @RedLancerMoto 3 года назад

      Maybe this will be the century. The EU seems to prefer sticking its head in the sand now, compared to the region's past tendency of sticking its hands everywhere.

    • @miastupid7911
      @miastupid7911 3 года назад

      @@RedLancerMoto hm?!

  • @coritillman1423
    @coritillman1423 3 года назад +2

    So many interruptions...rude

  • @cariboubearmalachy1174
    @cariboubearmalachy1174 3 года назад +2

    Frankfurt isnt in Franconia! It's in Hessen! Franconia ("Franken" in German) is in Bavaria.

    • @albertofernandez2490
      @albertofernandez2490 3 месяца назад

      dude, but you do understand that things were different 15OO ago

  • @voiceofreason2674
    @voiceofreason2674 3 года назад +13

    He wasn’t a barbarian the franks were already latinized by the battle of the catalaunian fields in the 5th century. I believe his mother spoke no Frankish

    • @stub2022
      @stub2022 3 года назад +2

      This. 👆

    • @luciano9755
      @luciano9755 3 года назад +2

      But it makes for a clickbaity title...

  • @vangelisskia214
    @vangelisskia214 2 года назад +2

    With the collapse of the empire in the west, its eastern counterpart became, in reality, an entirely new and independent state, at once Greek by language and Roman in name: 'A Greek Roman empire'."
    Roderick Beaton, "The Greeks: a global history", New York: Basic books 2021, pp. 212

  • @zitta915
    @zitta915 2 года назад

    He is my 34th grandfather

  • @Northstar-ni99ur
    @Northstar-ni99ur 2 месяца назад

    what about the Wild mens and europeen moors

  • @williamshepley3923
    @williamshepley3923 3 года назад +11

    Dude busting out laughing reminds Beavis and Butt-Head for a teacher 😂

  • @lkrnpk
    @lkrnpk 3 года назад +2

    in Latvian we call him Kārlis Lielais, pretty much we took it from Germans, Karl the Great

  • @cariboubearmalachy1174
    @cariboubearmalachy1174 3 года назад

    Charlemagne wasn't the one who conquered Aquitaine, it was his father Pepin the Short! You can see it on the map!

  • @Hans-JurgenGroenewold
    @Hans-JurgenGroenewold 6 месяцев назад +1

    Galicia in Poland has nothing to do with the Gauls. It comes from the Principality of Halytch (Galicia in Latin).

  • @shantoreywilkins651
    @shantoreywilkins651 3 года назад +1

    👑

  • @gllarocque
    @gllarocque 7 месяцев назад

    1:37:41

  • @rockstar450
    @rockstar450 3 года назад +12

    CORRECTION: the decision to move away from Constantinople by the Pope was primarily based on the ongoing inability of Constantinople to send military aid since the Arab invasion had crippled them. The Franks gifted to the Papacy and protected them from the Lombards and in return the Pope bestowed holy legitimacy. Pope Leo who crowned Charlemagne was deeply unpopular and saved, owning his position to the Franks. The new arrangement granted the Papacy more influence and better protection so it was a done deal. The fact Irene was a women was more circumstantial and not the key driver and while she did depose her son, there’s no evidence to say he died before 800 (I can’t find the source on the “rumour” a healthy young man died from a regular form of mutilation, they mention he was blinded and imprisoned). Irene was certainly cited as an exploitable loophole for legitimacy but the fact Charlemagne would continue to chase Constantinople‘s endorsement as “Emperor” but never “of the Romans” demonstrates the imperial line was not broken as many modernly exaggerate was the key driver to the crowning.

  • @johncollins211
    @johncollins211 Год назад

    I'm really confused as he's talking about protestant lands but it's still like 750 years before Martin luther.

  • @Emil-Antonowsky
    @Emil-Antonowsky 3 года назад +7

    The interruptions are unbearable.
    Rude and disrespectfu behaviour. They have forgotten the face of their fathers.

    • @Hermetic_
      @Hermetic_ 3 года назад +1

      Is that a quote from The Dark Tower? Gun Slinger?

    • @Emil-Antonowsky
      @Emil-Antonowsky 3 года назад +1

      Hile Mike of the D,
      You can set your watch and warrant on it.

    • @Hermetic_
      @Hermetic_ 3 года назад +1

      @@Emil-Antonowsky You say true. I say thank you.

    • @Emil-Antonowsky
      @Emil-Antonowsky 3 года назад +1

      @@Hermetic_ Long days and pleasant nights to ye, Sai.

  • @darktimes9139
    @darktimes9139 4 года назад +2

    Was king Charlemagne a knights Templar cause some pictures show him wearing a Red Cross on his tunic and battling gear

  • @timhammick8230
    @timhammick8230 3 года назад +1

    As far as I am aware, Britain was never part of the HRE?

    • @lowersaxon
      @lowersaxon 3 года назад +2

      No, not a day.

    • @tezz2698
      @tezz2698 3 года назад +2

      @Dennis Da Silva ssj4 HRE was not the Roman Empire. It was it's own thing entirely.

    • @davidesguario2151
      @davidesguario2151 3 года назад +1

      Nope. At the time there was no Englaland and Britain was divided between different anglo-saxon and celtic kingdoms, the most important being Mercia. His king Offa maintained good relationships with Charles.

    • @xianseah4847
      @xianseah4847 3 года назад

      Yes, Britains forgot their own identity after being controlled for centuries and pitted against each other by the various houses. Needless to say, those houses happen to be relatives of the same family. When people forgot their identity they became mere puppets.

  • @stephananthonyvanscoter1292
    @stephananthonyvanscoter1292 Год назад

    I'm a Grandson from King Charlemagne also King Neill ( Oneill).

  • @awhite2501
    @awhite2501 2 года назад

    Gaelic and Celtic is a yeddish language forced onto the native of the UK .the natives originally spoke hebrew or aramaic before before the invasions.

  • @evalationx2649
    @evalationx2649 3 года назад +4

    Dude laughs at very odd times. "Lots of people died." *snort laugh*

    • @brucecampbell6578
      @brucecampbell6578 3 года назад +5

      History is recorded by the victors. Usually butchers and sociopathic megalomaniacs. I would say the Romans themselves had/have a very cynical sense of humor. Perhaps a trait acquired by those who can read between the lines of the official narrative?

    • @Jasper_the_Cat
      @Jasper_the_Cat 3 года назад +9

      I think for some people it's more like a facial tick...not something they're truly laughing at, just a bit of anxious/awkward laughter?

    • @xianseah4847
      @xianseah4847 3 года назад +1

      Religion or country, its just an excuse for legal slaughter.

  • @johngreene7130
    @johngreene7130 3 года назад

    Landgrave? Dont you mean “ graaf” which would be an “ earl”?

    • @c.norbertneumann4986
      @c.norbertneumann4986 3 года назад

      A "graf" was originally a royal officer with adminstrative functions. Later on, the title became hereditary. The English word "sheriff" derives from Old English "shir-gerefa" who was originally a royal officeholder with a similar function. A "Landgraf" was a graf who had judicial power over free men and nobles. It's difficult to translate this word into English. Also Google translator translates it with "landgrave". I think "(upper) count" would be more accurate.

    • @johngreene7130
      @johngreene7130 3 года назад

      @@c.norbertneumann4986 that's very interesting, I actually am living near Aachen and close to a town in Dutch limburg called " Landgraaf ".

  • @sandrafocht3051
    @sandrafocht3051 4 года назад +1

    Careful

  • @isaacshultz8128
    @isaacshultz8128 3 года назад

    Sad that he didn't call him Karl Der Große

  • @thombran
    @thombran 3 года назад +4

    47:58 made me stop and consider how utterly Canadian this moment was: it was not so much a question as a very unsubtle opportunity to highlight to everyone in the room that this student sees herself as clever as the lecturer. It was a pure egotistical moment of "aha, I know this too!". I do not buy the idea that this was some sort of wholesome moment of communion in thought, it was, to my mind, quite clearly a brazen attempt to stop the class so this student could make everyone aware how in tune and perceptive and self-righteous and self-important she is (even above and beyond the professor).
    It's a little thing, sure, I didn't need to point it out, but increasingly I notice these cultural differences within the increasingly hollow "anglosphere". This sort of moment would almost NEVER happen in UK - where there is a certain deference to authority, especially well-educated professors. One is told at a young age to not create such brazen displays , more so in front of established leaders. Questions are usually reserved to the end of a lecture, and a bonafide englishman would face an overwhelming psychological horror before (s)he could dare interrupt the entire class to interject an unnecessary point meant only to draw light to themselves. It would be considered wholly impolite, self-important, vain and rude to the highest extent, let alone tacky, uncultured and low-class. It's interesting to note how in Canada, none of these stigmas are attached to putting oneself above others in such obvious manner. Despite having lived some years in Canada, my brain chemistry would simply NOT allow me to do what this student did. I could never forgive myself for being so utterly...North American?

    • @joshualyons4121
      @joshualyons4121 3 года назад +1

      "Utterly north American" coming from the stuck up Brits it's hilarious. Video lectures from your ivy league schools highlight the rarity of interruptions not because of some sense of respect as questions are just generally are not allowed during the lecture, faux pas or not. Ignoring the inevitable avalanche of the dripping hubristic and egoic masturbatory "questions" posed by many in the audience to their betters is uniquely stuck up. Is that a Brit thing or a you thing?

    • @thombran
      @thombran 3 года назад +1

      @@joshualyons4121 It's a Brit thing - there is an ingrained deference to authority, whether is academic or otherwise, instilled from a young age. It's part of what makes us who we are. I should also like to add here that the question of questions very much depends on whether the class is a lecture or a seminar. In a lecture such as this, the students are primarily there to be taught as much as possible within a defined time - they take notes and questions are usually reserved until the end, or often, are submitted privately to the lecturer during office hours. In a seminar, the learning is more didactic so questions can flow more freely. But again, often the time constraints mean that certain questions will simply be answered privately at a later time, so as to not interrupt the learning of other students. As for "egoic hubrustic masturbatory", I have no idea what you are trying to say nor why you regress to such vulgarity. Perhaps you asked too many questions.

    • @xianseah4847
      @xianseah4847 3 года назад

      The "Lecturer" called her Valerie, pretty sure that she is another "Lecturer" or at least his colleague. Honestly, people should not just overreact over a short statement.

    • @thombran
      @thombran 3 года назад

      @@xianseah4847 sometimes we find buried in the little things, very big things. This was simply me voicing my train of thought on a small sample of the cultural differences between England and Canada. It is by examining ourselves closely, and contrasting that behaviour with others, that we might better understand ourselves. I do this constantly - it is not only pertinent to my profession, but I find great delight, wisdom and skill in it. My comment above is but one tiny example, from a tiny moment, in a tiny lecture, of a tiny audience, of a tiny difference between our societies. It might mean nothing to you, and that's absolutely fine, but it means a great deal to myself.

    • @sophitsa79
      @sophitsa79 2 года назад

      @@joshualyons4121 would you say the same of Australians that you say of the English? Because Australians say the same of North Americans

  • @holyemperor5221
    @holyemperor5221 3 года назад +10

    It was Holy, it was by Vatican decision the successor of the Roman Empire, and it was an Empire. Voltaire is one of the reasons why Europe is dying.

    • @holyemperor5221
      @holyemperor5221 3 года назад +2

      @@brownie43212 He is the enemy of Europe. Not only to God but to the King and to an entire cast of indigenous Europeans. He is the main spark with Rousseau behind the French Conspiracy. If you feel like that was a great thing. Alright, be you. You can celebrate the beheadings, The death of culture, The princesses being dragged behind chariots to their deaths. You can pretend it was a revolution by the people. You can pretend all you want. I don’t care Ben.

    • @holyemperor5221
      @holyemperor5221 3 года назад

      @@brownie43212 find God

    • @holyemperor5221
      @holyemperor5221 3 года назад +1

      Ben Ben Ben. Sad meaningless Ben.

    • @thegoodolddays9193
      @thegoodolddays9193 2 года назад

      The Roman empire continued to exist into the 1400s.
      The schismatic papal supremacists created a false empire which divided Christendom.
      It might've been an empire but it was not holy, in fact it might have been one of the biggest mistake a Christian ever made.
      Agreed about Voltaire though.

  • @hansberger4939
    @hansberger4939 3 года назад

    5:02 Prussia was not a kingdom 1648.

    • @Sphere723
      @Sphere723 6 месяцев назад

      I think hes clearly talking about the HRE during the time of Voltaire, which would ne accurate.

  • @turinhorse
    @turinhorse 11 месяцев назад

    7:02 also, surely he knows that Protestantism is a 16th century movement? this is an odd discussion here at 7:02. does the questioner mean Arianism vs Catholicism? he really should have corrected her.

  • @piushalg5041
    @piushalg5041 Год назад

    Charlemagne clearly spoke Franqish which was a West Germanic language and had no affiliation to Old French apart from being Indo-European. The German tribes would have understood him unlike the Gallo-Roman speaking subjects.

  • @albertofernandez2490
    @albertofernandez2490 3 месяца назад

    I wonder about the logistics of sending an elephant from Baghdad to Aachen in fricki'n 9th century

  • @megatronmotors221
    @megatronmotors221 3 года назад +1

    The grandfather of Europe the mighty Charles the Great!

  • @ladycharlenegrace8023
    @ladycharlenegrace8023 3 года назад +1

    Aw. I wish we could see his presentation.... not the ppl he spoke to....

  • @ndbaker74
    @ndbaker74 Год назад

    Couldn't finish this due to how rude theroom is. Let the man lecture! The constant interruptions ruined this.

  • @veronicalogotheti5416
    @veronicalogotheti5416 2 года назад

    French was invented in a town close to paris
    The name is something like frence

  • @c.norbertneumann4986
    @c.norbertneumann4986 3 года назад +5

    Second objection: The Franks did originally not come from the area around Frankfurt am Main, which, by the way, is not called "Franconia" (and never has been). Indeed, Frakfurt was founded by the Franks, and the Franks settled in South Hesse (Südhessen) but as colonists, appearing in this areea not before the late fifth/sixth centuries. There is an area called "Franken" which is sited upstream the Main river in northern Bavaria. The original places the Frankish tribes came from were the southern Netherlands, Flanders and northern Belgium (Salfranks), and the northern Rhineland (Rhine-Franks). The Romans called the land east of the Rhine river (opposite the city of Cologne) already in the fourth century "Francia".

    • @holyemperor5221
      @holyemperor5221 3 года назад +1

      Wrong! They came from Pommeren.

    • @c.norbertneumann4986
      @c.norbertneumann4986 3 года назад

      @@holyemperor5221 The Franks emerged from a union of Germanic (and probably Celto-Germanic) tribes that resided at the middle and lower Rhine at the time of their merger in the 3rd century AD.

    • @holyemperor5221
      @holyemperor5221 3 года назад

      @@c.norbertneumann4986 look into Pommeren. According to the Franks they came from Pommeren. They were always the neighbors of the Bourgondians who come from Bornholm.

    • @holyemperor5221
      @holyemperor5221 3 года назад

      @@c.norbertneumann4986 and they for sure weren’t Celtic.

    • @c.norbertneumann4986
      @c.norbertneumann4986 3 года назад +2

      @@holyemperor5221 You even don't know how to correctly spell Pommern: It's Pommern, not Pommeren. And, of course, the Frankish tribes settled at the Rhine river, from the time of their first and earliest mention in Roman documents. Pommern is several hundreds of miles away, at the shores of the Baltic Sea. One of the most important tribes the Franks emerged from was the Sugambri. The prefix su- is of Celtic origin meaning "good" or "strong". Thus it is debated among historians whether there was a Celtic influence.

  • @Stsebastian8900
    @Stsebastian8900 Год назад

    Does the Patriarch of Rome, the Bishop Leo have the authority to appoint someone to be Emperor?

    • @masada2828
      @masada2828 4 месяца назад

      Didn’t originally, the Emperor appointed the Pope. It was not until the 12th century the Pope was able to appoint the Emperor & the Cardinals appoint the Pope.

  • @veronicalogotheti5416
    @veronicalogotheti5416 2 года назад

    He didnt write o read

  • @dave438-jw3
    @dave438-jw3 3 года назад +1

    Carolus Magnus was Holy Roman Emperor, the German spin on the Roman Empire. There was a Roman Emperor in New Rome the City of Constantine.

    • @samtank7599
      @samtank7599 3 года назад

      He was crowned by the vestiges of authority still alive in the Papal states around Rome proper

    • @dave438-jw3
      @dave438-jw3 3 года назад

      @@samtank7599 No Roman Emperor was ever crowned by an Orthodox Patriarch, not the Orthodox Pope of Rome, nor the Ecumenical Patriarch of New Rome the City of Constantine; in crowning Charlemagne, Leo became the first Catholic Pope of Rome, and the last Orthodox Pope of Rome. Had the Empire not been busy defending against the second jihad, there would probably be a "replacement" Orthodox Pope of Rome elected as was done in Alexandria after their Pope was declared a monophysite at Chalcedon (Alexandria still has 2 Popes: an Orthodox and a Coptic).

    • @dave438-jw3
      @dave438-jw3 3 года назад

      @@samtank7599 my point was he was not a Roman Emperor, but the first Holy Roman Emperor.

  • @veronicalogotheti5416
    @veronicalogotheti5416 2 года назад

    Charlemagne was from pepin rolo the viking
    In 400 you has also attila the hun

  • @publicminx
    @publicminx Год назад

    there was no Charlemagne, his name was Karl/Carl (or latinized: Karolus/Carolus Magnus), 'Charles' itself is just a much later localized variation of Karl/Carl. Why is this important? Because ALL historical documents, architecture etc. and in ALL other languages than French (the English took the wrong name from their) refer to a Karl dynasty line, also later. One understand history much better if one deals with the real name which in difference to localized names like 'Tut ench amun' makes much more sense, since the real name is still common and so on ..

  • @dumitrufrunza8136
    @dumitrufrunza8136 3 года назад

    Wasn’t it called “The Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation”?

    • @erikawhelan4673
      @erikawhelan4673 3 года назад

      Occasionally, from the 1470s on, yes.

    • @dumitrufrunza8136
      @dumitrufrunza8136 3 года назад

      Thanks. So “... of the German Nation” was a later addition. Makes sense.

    • @RandomNorwegianGuy.
      @RandomNorwegianGuy. 3 года назад

      The Holy Roman Emperor held many titles. King of Germany was one of them

  • @rockstar450
    @rockstar450 3 года назад +2

    CORRECTION#2: “The Western Empire never fell in the eyes of the citizens.” I’m honestly puzzled at this concept. Even after being crowned, Charlemagne’s people called themselves Franks, perhaps part of a reborn Roman Empire but not Romans. It’s like the US President resurrecting the British Empire and the USA’s citizens retitling themselves as English, it’s sounds absurd. By 800 countless generations of new rulers and immigration had poured in, all of which wanting to leave their mark on history, and this gentleman himself stated the people in Rome felt alienated from the Lombards. The Western Empire was struggling to hold its Roman identity in its final decades and Justinian’s reconquest found Italy a place far removed from what they expected to find in such a short space of time. Only the top institutions operated as were before and the more comfortable the Goths got the more likely they were to take ownership, livestock and property.

    • @Sphere723
      @Sphere723 6 месяцев назад

      The complication is the idea of imperial titles. The Emperors in Constantinople continued to grant Imperial titles to the various rulers in the West, in the same way that Western Emperors had been giving fedorated germanic tribes and their leaders for hundreds of years. So technically many of these Kings hold Imperial offices and are ruling in the name of the Roman Emperor, but are in reality completely independent states.
      So this is why its not so clear cut that the Empire is over.

    • @rockstar450
      @rockstar450 6 месяцев назад

      @Sphere723 Italy was essentially a vassal state. The title of Empeor was never given to westerner. After the Lombards we can safely say anything baring the Latin language was gone outside of the governing and religious apparatus (which influence the elite, not so much the citizens). Charlemagne wanted Legitimacy for his kingship. Not the Imperial crown which he never intended to outlive him.

    • @Sphere723
      @Sphere723 6 месяцев назад

      @@rockstar450 Just to illustrate what I'm saying, Odoacer was granted the titles of "Dux" and "Patrician" and was officially a client of the Emperor Zeno. When Odoacer betrayed Zeno, the Emperor granted Theodoric the title "Patrician" and invited him and his Ostrogoths to invade Italy and overthrow Odoacer. Theodoric likewise ruled, in theory, as a client of Zeno.
      Justinian's invasion of Italy was ostensibly to undo the usurpation against Theodoric's line (his clients), by a group of Gothic nobles that thought the descendant's of Theodoric were becoming too "Roman".
      And I think it's important to remember that the Western Emperors were doing exactly this sort of thing with Germanic tribes/kings for hundreds of years before 476. It was not odd for parts of the Roman Empire to be ruled by a Germanic King. it was a very normal thing for Romans, and had been for generations.

  • @xianseah4847
    @xianseah4847 3 года назад

    Back then people were godless, they worshipped the same demon and killed each other in his name.

  • @friendo6257
    @friendo6257 2 года назад

    Factoids from the crowd are not constructive to the presentation.

  • @drgonzo1971
    @drgonzo1971 3 года назад

    the Mongols burned Hungary to the ground, but didn't stick around

  • @AnxietyRanger
    @AnxietyRanger 4 года назад +3

    Charlemagne is actually my 36th Great Grandfather

    • @cinderwhite
      @cinderwhite 4 года назад +2

      Mine as well. Genetic collapse thanks to the healthy libido of this man.

    • @susanmccormick4627
      @susanmccormick4627 4 года назад +1

      Mine too through the maternal.

    • @michaelfetter8738
      @michaelfetter8738 4 года назад +3

      He's my 36th Great GrandMother, oddly enough.

    • @zxroxzyloz7177
      @zxroxzyloz7177 3 года назад

      Same but all i know is that he blood related to my dad and grandpa

    • @lowersaxon
      @lowersaxon 3 года назад

      Welcome to the club.

  • @shannonstewart7952
    @shannonstewart7952 3 года назад

    It was Roman due to the structure of the empire. The pope chose the emperor of the holy Roman empire. It's a Roman catholic religious state kinda

    • @hansberger4939
      @hansberger4939 3 года назад

      The pope did not pick the Kaiser.

    • @shannonstewart7952
      @shannonstewart7952 3 года назад

      @@hansberger4939 no not the kaiser. But he did pick all of the holy Roman emperor rulers.. for the most part, holy Roman empire was a germanic empire that had a few French kings. Last of which was Napoleon Bonaparte who did not allow the pope to crown him, instead took the crown from the pope and put it on his own head

  • @jonathansoko5368
    @jonathansoko5368 3 года назад

    Dude was far from a barbarian. He fell victim to the french ladies

  • @taylorgunkel4745
    @taylorgunkel4745 3 года назад

    Charlamagne the God probably got his name from this dude

  • @MDE1992
    @MDE1992 2 года назад +1

    The Frankish language Charlemagne spoke was not an ancestor of modern German, but more of the modern Dutch and Flemish languages. Modern German descended from the southern dialects in Germany (High German).

  • @jjrj8568
    @jjrj8568 3 года назад

    this title was meant for the Franks (Carolingian Dynasty) but the Germans seized a century later after the Carolingian collapse (I Reich, Holy Roman German Empire), setting the stage for the eventual WW1 a millennia later (II Reich)

  • @lennykoss8777
    @lennykoss8777 3 года назад

    🤔🤔🤔

  • @cormacmcquillan828
    @cormacmcquillan828 3 года назад +2

    "three centuries after the Roman Empire fell" hmmmm.... If that's true then why was there a state until 1453 that was the exact same one as... The Roman Empire?

    • @Noticed888
      @Noticed888 3 года назад

      He is probably referring to the west empire

    • @cormacmcquillan828
      @cormacmcquillan828 3 года назад

      @@Noticed888 there was never a separate empire, just one roman empire with two Emperors. The roman empire didn't fall until 1453

    • @Noticed888
      @Noticed888 3 года назад

      @@cormacmcquillan828 yes I know but the west didn’t survive, so he was probably referring to the west when he says the empire fell

    • @imemberberry
      @imemberberry 3 года назад

      Goths took over and occupied most Roman territory in the west. The Franks were already former Roman allies, hellenized, and understood how Rome functioned. Goths commonly just adopted whatever local system was there to hold the new territory more easily. If it's not broke, don't fix it. Vandals did the same thing in Carthage.

    • @masada2828
      @masada2828 4 месяца назад +1

      Because there was a West & an East. Constantine took the seat of his Roman Empire to Byzantium, renamed, Constantinople. He handed over to the Pope many of his buildings, his title (Pontifex Maximum) & the Ecclesiastical power as Bishop of Rome. The Papacy is a continuation of the Roman Emperor of the West.

  • @lesguil4023
    @lesguil4023 3 года назад

    The theory of celts expanding from central europe is another myth. Why would the evolved variations of celtic language be present on the epicenter of celtic expansion whereas on the latests places to suposedly arrive i.e Spain, the vestigial remnants of celt belong to the archaic forms of Celt?

    • @TonyqTNT
      @TonyqTNT 3 года назад +1

      OK so they circled around the coast and went into Central Europe later.
      They were all on Asian Stepps at one time just like the Romans, Greeks, Franks and the other peoples who eventually became Western Europeans after the indigenous settlement of peoples in Western Europe!!!

    • @lesguil4023
      @lesguil4023 3 года назад

      @@TonyqTNT I'm arguing against the germanophile skewed version of history(and prehistory) that is concocted within the protestant academic world.
      If you are talking about the yamnaya migration into west, i don't know if this people are the ones who brought about celtic culture or the celtic culture was something that was brewed in western most europe during and post ice age, and the repopulation that goes west to east.
      Don't know if there is enough evidence to suggest yamnaya culture is celtic culture.
      Two mummified bodies of two brothers were found north of Spain dating 8000 bc. Dark skin and blue eyes and the closest genetic match are the scandinavians, those 2 are not the celtic haplogroup R1b which is what you find in Spain nowadays, but maybe their culture was. Hard to say.
      hard to say with certainty what something was, but can say what it was not. The celts coming down the alps tirolese yodeling is bs myth.

    • @samtank7599
      @samtank7599 3 года назад +1

      Celts may have been the Scythians who migrated from turkey area to the edges of the European continent 6000 years ago

    • @ludviglidstrom6924
      @ludviglidstrom6924 3 года назад +1

      I don’t know about genetics, but the Celtic languages is a subgroup to the Indo-European languages, so linguistically they are all Indo-European.