The Truth About Cloudwheels (and Cloudwheel Donuts)
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- Опубликовано: 9 июн 2024
- People love to exaggerate about Cloudwheels. If you're confused and not sure if you should get them, let me tell you about their pros and cons. They're great for some people but certainly not for everyone.
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📖 TABLE OF CONTENTS
00:00 Unzip
00:57 Why were Cloudwheels made
02:40 What are they good for
04:42 How I feel about them
06:16 Compatibility of Donuts
06:58 Moment of zen 
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headandshoulders shampoo will help your confidence in knowing you won't get snowflakes ;)
Your hair looks sick.
Daniel I have to say I loved the video and your channel! One thing with cloud wheels is that they don't have their prime grip out of the box, it starts to kick in around 40-50 miles when the contact patch is much less narrow. This break in period is definitely a disadvantage to other wheels but I think if you rode them to that point you'd have an entirely different opinion!
Don't worry, the puffier the better. 😇
You need an haircut.......NOW!!!
Yes they are amazing wheels. I own 5 sets of cloud wheels. I find after you break them in they have great grip on the 105mm.
I agree. They don’t have bad grip at all. I can pump and carve super hard on my 105 clouds and I have never slipped out....yet.
where do you get the 105mm?
How bad is the wheel bite?
@@TheOtherG they sell them on their site www.icloudwheel.com/collections/cloudwheels/products/cloudwheel-discovery-120mm-105mm-urban-all-terrain-off-road-electric-skateboard-wheels-for-backfire-boards-wheel-pulley-kit
@@cici6889 I have them on my Backfire zealot and they don’t bite at all.
I use this style of wheel in the early spring and late fall when there is a lot of debris on the roads from the winter and from fallen leaves in the fall. I agree with you Daniel on everything you said about these.
Great wheels for the Chicago area with all the pot holes and cracked ground. If anything just increases my confidence.
Man chicago sidewalks are def a trip when skating lmao.
New to electric skateboarding and your videos are excellent! Just ordered myself a Wowgo Knight and can't wait to begin. Thanks for putting out quality information and sharing your insights!
I drive the Cloudwheels Discovery 105 for 3/4 years now on my Evolve GT with a 40T gear. BEST decision I've ever made. The ride is so much more smooth, especially when you are driving on asphalt and pavements with gravels in cities. My feet and knees can withstand much more kilometers without getting tired. Plus the 40T gear adds so much torque compared to the standard 32T gear, this is simply beautiful. Max speed is reduced by ~5km/h, but I don't drive max speed (42km/h) anyways in cities, so that's negligible for me. My knees say "thank you" :D
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I just read a comment about noise: Yes, they sound like the Breakdancer at an amusement park, but I love that sound :)
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If you don't know a Breakdancer, here it is in action: watch?v=1_6nigEDEXU
I agree with many of the points. To me where they shine is commuting and increasing safety margin especially for new riders and kids. I now make it a point to have my son ride with cloud wheels or a similar type of wheel especially since he does group rides and occasionally rides in the streets. And stop playing with those donuts young man 😃🤦♂️(joke) we don’t play with food. 🍩
My new cloudwheels keep coming loose to where they wobble every time I go for a ride?
Cici that sounds like a big issue maybe your hub motor sleeves are worn out or incorrect size?
They aren't safe for heavy carving.
@@cici6889 hubmotor ones or belt drive?
I think the CloudWheels are nice for people who haven't transitioned to AT wheels but want a ride that resembles AT wheels. I have both the 105 and 120 millimeter wheels. They are ALMOST as comfortable as AT wheels. The difference is... I don't worry about flat tires.
(please note, I've never tried CloudWheels Rovers)
The "narrow contact patch"/convex shape, is very similar to Slick Revs. Ruff Stuff wheels. Grip was always an issue with them too. Regardless though, the options open for hub boards is limited in comparison to belted setups. Donuts are a game changer, especially if you have UK roads to contend with.
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I had the Ruff Stuff on one of the original Slick Rev Max Eboards, the first gen with only one motor. Have you ridden with both Ruff Stuff and Cloud wheels, how do they compare?
@@louisswan6698 Never had cloud wheels, they just don't appeal to me!
As usual, your reviews are the best: informative, educational, humorous & entertaining w/out going on tangents. This review made me realize the Cloudwheels are the perfect choice for me since I live in a rural setting with less than optimal, smooth roads. I have rocks and twigs to deal with. Thanks for this review!
I use the 105 on my pro riot wall street riding. I really like them for this application. When I’m heading up a park or something that needs really aggressive turning I switch back to the urethane.
Definitely agree they’re in betweener wheels. Not the best street wheels or AT wheels. But for packed dirt and rougher roads they’re cheaper that pneumatic wheels and do a lot better than street wheels. Street wheels on rough roads sucks and on dirt packed roads is an accident waiting to happen.
I like those cloud wheels but when I look my local roads, All terrain wheels are a must 🤣🤣
Same here that's why I'm looking at rubber sleeved hubs
@@Wimmle Any details?
I have Wowgo 3 - I love freerolling, but hubs are killing my knees. I heard that somebody on reddit eskate group glued bike tire to hubs.
@@jankat9337 well after months of investigating and testing options and with the laws in my country I just went an escooter it's more than enough for my needs and more comfortable for Daily use
@@Wimmle Thanks. Scooter is not my cup of tea. I'm addicted to carving :)
@@jankat9337 100% carving is so much fun but as a daily in a suit scooter is a bit more practical and honestly more accepted in my field
You never fail to make me laugh.
Thanks so much for everything you do.
I won't say what I think about CloudWheels. My opinion has gone from hate to love.
It simply comes down to how much battery life are you willing to sacrifice for comfort.
CloudWheels are more comfortable than urethane wheels but not as comfortable as all-terrain wheels. It's simple, CloudWheels are in between urethane and all-terrain Wheels.
I like the the 120mm CloudWheels because I don't want to worry about flat tires.
I have them on my Wave Riot as well and they're so much smoother then stock. I am also 6'2" and weigh in a 255 lbs., just for size/weight reference.
What size? No wheel bite?
Thank you so much. Great video. The video is short, more comprehensive than the others ive seen, direct to the point and less bias in my opining. It helped me make my decision and im sure it will help you too.
You got a quicksilver look on. I dig it.
I also agree with what you've said. It's the perfect in between for me because it provides a moderate level of comfort and a good amount of range no matter what surface I'm going over.
AT wheels are comfy no matter what surface. Street wheels are comfy only on proper smooth paths or roads, but on anything remotely rough my feet hurt after 10minutes.
AT wheels drain my battery way faster, but Street wheels provide massive range.
Cloud isn't perfect at what either excels at, but provides a perfect middle ground. Very good for me due to my circumstances, which are the paths and routes I ride.
Certainly if I lived in the city or in a new suburb it would change what I used.
Really liked the video. The way you talk is great, the do it or don't do it if you want is awesome.
Great review, just purchased the backfire g2 black def gonna have to give these a try
really appreciate how honest all your content has been man, appreciate it!
The moment the video was over I ordered cloudwheels! Thanks for the review man!
Awesome review as ever! Informative. Detailed. Entertaining. Loved it
Digging the hair..didn't even recognize you. I am still using the original cloud wheels that everyone was bashing for about a year now with zero issues.
Your videos are always top notch.
I love my cloud 105s. I also love my Ant wheels. 100s. Both are superior to the factory 96mm wheels that came with my Backfire Z, especially on uneven and rough terrain. Love your videos.😊
Yo man. I’m building an electric skateboard and am going to get cloud wheels. Do you know what the internal diameter of the donut is
@@WealthWiseTV1 your question is pretty vague, do you want the inner diameter for the belt drive or hub motor? I’d say get a micrometer to find out.😁
@@tyhogue8316 Hub motor
How much has your boards range suffered with these? I have a Backfire G3 and they're the only wheels I've tried so far.
I’m not a very big cloudwheels fan personally, manly due to the narrow contact patch. For me, that narrow contact patch just doesn’t inspire much ride confidence. In my opinion, the torqueboards 72A 110s are a much better options when it comes to grip and comfort because they’re even softer than the cloudwheels, but I also recognize that what’s best for me is not best for everyone else. The torqueboards 110s are definitely another good option though for anyone thinking about getting large wheels, my main reason for getting them myself is because the contact patch is huge.
I like it when you say contact patch
I ordered the Cloudwheels donuts some days ago for my Exway Flex Hub. I'm really looking forward to them because there are some bike paths in my region that are too rough for the original 85mm wheels. I wonder 😉 if I can ride there kind of smoothly with the cloudwheels, or if I would need an AT board in the future for this kind of paths.
I also would like to know how the normal cloudwheels compare directly to something like the TorqueBoard TB110s on a belt driven board.
Good wheels for completely dry roads , slipped out from dew being on the ground . Super comfy ride though . IMO they are great for urban riding and better than PU wheels just gotta watch for water .
You’re the man bro, thank you for sharing your knowledge and information.
oh yeah it's the boy Kwan killin em ! may there only be one kwan
I had to be careful when I put 120mm cloud wheels on my wowgo 3 because I started feeling comfortable going 28mph and I can't run that fast if I have to jump off the board.
I just ordered the cloudwheels for my Backfire mini thanks to your discount code! can't wait to receive them! 😁
I have a backfire mini as well. How does it hold up on range with the cloud wheels? If it effects range by a relatively large/noticeable margin than I’m not really interested in them. But, where I ride, a lot for the roads are very bumpy and filled with cracks
@@Garyjpg Yes you have less range with the cloudwheels, but for me it's ok. I only use the backfire mini to go downtown, and chill around. But the ride is way more safe and smoother. I dont regret my purchase !
the cloudwheels on my Exway Flex are amazing. Aside from me having to cut the motor cover down to fit them
Precautions for using CLOUDWHEEL
Don't use it on wet ground, because the grip is not enough in wet and it is easy to sideslip causes personnel to fall! (The experience of people who fell several times，LOL！)
I have the backfire g3 plus with cloudwheels and love it.
Huge difference for hub motor boards. If your board is compatible, 1000% worth it
How do you know if your board is compatible
would it fit wowgo3?
Thx! Good overview
Daniel, what are your opinions on the Torque Board wheels 110 (tb110)?
Btw, I have 105 cloudwheels on my zealot and I agree with everything u said. Cloudwheels are more comfortable on bumpy pavements and gravelly roads, but on days where I want range, I opt for the base backfire urethane wheels.
I think people hate cloudwheels because they're overhyped and you can get something better for the money, like smaller wheels with more range, or bigger wheels with more comfort. Cloudwheels don't excel at anything specifically more than others, but they look cool IMO and do enough to get adequate range and comfort together.
I appreciate your videos, Daniel. I'm yet to buy an e board, it's all very confusing but you're helping me build knowledge faster than simply reading. I really want to build a board from different parts. I want MY choice of board. I too am 6'1 and want a long cool board (without too much flex) then pick the parts I want to throw onto it. But am finding it hard to work out how to find the plastic to cover the parts with as all manufactured boards have. Enertion has liquidated and are the only ones I know that sold kits for dummies and made things super simple. In summary, I'd love to see you put together a clip (no matter how long it is!) as a "How to build your own board" with some options on available parts that you deem suitable from a list of manufacturers/suppliers. I've just subscribed and I look forward to hearing more of your content. Thank you sir.
If you want to piece yourself something but not go full "diy" go with a BKB board. Otherwise, there is too much criteria to fulfill, your only limited by budget haha.
Acedeck ares x1 2 in 1 gear drive
Great video. Keep up the good content
mine CW are loud as ek.. the sound resemble a truck on the highway with offroad tyres
If you have a direct drive skateboard, you better own some damn cloud wheel!
you mean hub wheels? or,....
You the man Yung Kwan
Great Video! Has anyone tried the conversion kit of them to not have to use the donuts but 4 "proper" cloudwheels on hub motor boards? Would appreciate any experience with those. Is it worth sacrificing the aesthetics of the board and the wider wheel stand where the hub motors are for maybe just a little bit more comfort (full cloudwheel vs. cloudwheel donut)?
Thanks Daniel!
I know there isn't a Meepo V3 donut version yet, But do any of the ones released yet fit on the Meepo V3. Thanks.
Love mine the stock ones were hard as a rock
Great stuff Daniel
Great review. I just got my zealot about a week ago already 100 miles. Have u had to tighten the belts at all. I can’t find how to anywhere because it’s mounted with no track to slide on. Thanks again
Is there some 105-120mm Pu sleeve for wowgo knight? flat normal street sleeve? but bigger?
What do you think about the TB110 wheels?
Hey DK... Need some guidance or help. I have a Wowgo Knight with belt motors and I want to put the 105 cloudwheels on. I can’t seem to get a clear and concise answer when I ask iCloud or post questions so maybe you may have some knowledge to share with me. Can I just buy the cloudwheels from say Amazon without pulley kits and it’s just basically plug and play or do I actually need to purchase the wheels with pulley kit etc for them to work? Any help would be appreciated
Great Video!
I got these for my backfire g3 and immediately noticed an increase in ride comfort, which was the number one thing that I was hoping for. The torque is affected but not to a point that it makes a difference to me. I noticed a slight decrease in braking but not as much as the difference in torque, I am a bigger guy (250lbs) so I think my braking was already kinda slow. I also felt much more comfortable going faster in the areas I usually ride. I haven't done an extensive range test, but I'm sure it's affected. All I can say though is that if you have bumpy roads or trails that you ride on these will make your ride much better! I was pretty skeptical about how much a difference these wheels could make and I was already looking at selling my g3 and getting an all-terrain board instead. However, due to the increased ride comfort, I will be keeping my g3!
How is the wheel bite with them? I have had wheel bite on the standard 96 MM and I can’t imagine how bad it would be with bigger wheels.
@@cici6889 I have not noticed any wheel bite from these yet but I'm not a super aggressive carver. I actually have new bushings coming in the mail to hopefully make carving better but I will update you if I have any issues
@@alexwalker7875 thanks Alex. Much appreciated. Did you have to do anything with import taxes? Mine is shipping from China and it states I may have to do something with the tax customs in the US? Much confused
does anyone know how the durability on these are I wanna get some for the backfire g2 black but I wanna know if they'll last or just tear up after 3 months
would these work on the meepo nls pro i didnt see it listed on there sight but you mentioned there might be some others it works with
Do they work on the Skatebolt pro?
Sorry if i asked this on your extras channel: Does this work with Ownboard W1S?
I got the BF Zealot back in early November. I'm brand new to the e-board world and last time I set foot on a board was in the late 80's. Yep, I'm old. Anyway, I was going to go with the 105 Backfire Clouds for just cruising around the city here. I like the 96mm that they came with but I would like a slightly smoother ride.
Never to old to esk8 Im 50. Ride a BF Ranger X1
@@jimzplace Right! I'm having so much fun! I already managed to put over 250 miles on my board before the weather turned on me (central NY USA). I'm already looking for another board as a backup. I don't want to wait around while my board is charging if the weather is nice. 2 boards will be perfect 😁 edit... 49 by the way. 50 soon
@@WorldwideDarts How from the capital of ny? Im in ny too!!
@@jimzplace I just drove by Albany a few days ago. I'm in Utica
@@WorldwideDartsemailed ya
How much do they reduce the range compared to 90mm urethane wheels?
I ride a Lycaon swift
Are cloud wheels and the doughnuts the same thing? I just ordered a set for the hub motor and the new exway x1 max
I switch back and forth between the cloud wheels and 5" tire weels.
Does anyone know about how much range would be lost, I want to purchase them but my board only has about 20 miles of range
I am one of those "great for" people. I love these things. I only wish I had them sooner than I got them.
Do you know if the hub version of the cloudwheels are compatible with the wowgo 3
Daniel, are you an American living in Shanghai? If so, do you purchase these boards and accessories in the USA or China?
I've never tried cloud wheels but I love the wheels that come on the meepo shuffle s which I assume are just copies of cloud wheels
Question for you , my hub motor wheels have 6 screws and the screw heads are on the kingpin side of the truck ,not like yours . Do they have cloudwheels for those? Do you know?
Again, awesome video
Found your channel last week
Bought the Zealot S because of your video
Bought a set of Cloud Wheels because of your video
Is there anything else you recommend?
Haha nice. Make sure you wear safety gear ruclips.net/video/eXoo7HfqVvs/видео.html
Are these good for the meepo v3? They have been out of stock for a while and I don't know why.
great Video. im new to all of this and i would like to know if you have a suggestion on wheels for the lou board 3.0
I don’t think there are aftermarket wheel sleeves for LOU Board. You can change the front wheels but the difference would likely be negligible.
Can you use these wheels on Bustin Boards sportster?
Thanku
where do i buy the 105mm cloud wheels??
Nice review G..
Just be aware of the long ass shipping time! They come from China and I've now been waiting two weeks and they are only in Korea! I can't see them arriving for another two weeks at least! Just so you know!!
Oh neat, they made hub sleeves, now when are they gonna embed LEDs and charge ports? RGB Cloud Wheels?
See Awoah Mods and Verreal Glow wheels, they exist. Wish there were light-up hub caps though...
Do they work on the louboard 3.0?
Are they compatible with Eon-Unlimited boards?
Love those sneakers. What are they?
What classical music piece did you use at the end of video?
What piece of music was that?!
Do they work for Ownboard M1?
do these work for meepo boards?
hi Daniel, awesome video! Can you please tell me if I can stick'em to my Meepo Mini 2?
meepo sell their own
Great video
What about the backfire zealot with cloud wheels?
I bought the donuts thanks for the promo code
I love the rapid cuts edit. Intense but a good representation of the black and white euphoria and condemnation all over the internet about everything. A shared stream of consciousness. Like.
Not that I hate the wheels, but just too big to my liking. I hate the fact they use ABEC style cores, but different measurements... And manufacturers are supporting these pulleys like crazy and neglect the Kegel and ABEC 11 style pulleys. The Donuts are a smart move. They give ppl with hubs an alternative to switch to. But belt driven boards they make it more complicated pulley wise
All facts stated 👌. Great to hear it coming from you Dan
Thanks :)
Hi, should I get the 120mm or 105 mm cloud wheels ? What’s the difference ? I’m close to buy the 120 but not sure about that, someone may help me ? Ty !
(It’s for my exway x1 pro riot) thx
Don’t get 120, those will get wheelbite on X1 Pro. 105 can also get wheelbite but far less likely. Some ppl use 105 on X1 series.
Can you feel the difference between a Cloudwheel donut for hub motors and a Cloudwheel for belt drive? The answer will help me decide whether I should buy a belt drive or hub motor on my next board. Or I might even upgrade my existing board from hub to belt drive if the difference is great.
Did you figure that out yet? I have the same question
Hey Daniel, I just bought my first e skateboard. I've actually never been on any sort of board before so I'm taking it slow. I bought a backfire ranger x2. I get quite a bit of sperm wobble. Am I doing something wrong, is it just because of the double kingpin? What can I do to help me hit the hire speeds. Thanks for any advice.
Could be a number of things. Make sure your weight distribution is correct first. Try having your front foot as close to the front truck as you can, and have most of your body weight on the front leg. Have your front leg do most of the balancing and steering work, and your back leg kind of just assist.
Does it work in wowgo 3?
Those are some dope shoes
Hey i have the wowgo 3 and been wanting to get new wheels. Do u know if the icloud donut for the wowgo knight fit the wowgo 3. Wowgo knight is the only thing listed on there page
have you figured it out bro? i have wowgo3 also and im wondering as well if it can fit
@@RonaldJayBuayan i msg cloud wheels and they said they dont fit but working on it. So fingers crossed that it comes soon
Are cloud 105 good for the zealot?
Yes, I have them but it’s not sure I would say they are worth 150$
Just wondering.. I've got the ownboard AT1W.. are these cloudwheels more absorbant on rougher road surfaces than what ownboard supply? Or not much difference? FYI, UK roads lol.. Brilliant video btw. I've purchased spare ownboard wheels.. but looking like I shouldn't have bothered, and just upgrade to cloudwheel hubs..
I didn’t spend much time on AT1W but I think its wheels are softer than Cloudwheels. If I remember correctly… I could be wrong.
@@DanielKwan many thanks.. I javelin had enough time on the at1w but it seems to be a nice board.. even looked at your surfskate adapter and etc... I'm constantly looking at better. Especially from factory vs cloudwheels
im upgrading to 120 mm clouds n wellseewhagappens
how big wheels can you put on exway wave? thank you!
I wouldn’t go bigger than 105mm
good stuff