The Secret Lag Technique No One is Talking About
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The Secret Lag Technique No One is Talking About
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Clay Ballard
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I got to tell you, Clay - as somebody who struggles with lag I've watched *a lot* of videos, spent hours with coaches, etc... this was hands-down the best tip I've discovered. It feels strange at first, for sure, but the ball absolutely flies.
Its amazing to me how anyone could give the thumbs down to this guy....best coach Ever! wish you were around 20 yrs ago
Thanks for the kind words, David. Play well!
Clay, I spent 30 years creating lag as you describe via hands ,wrists and arms.
I was a very good ball striker and played to two hdcp. I started working with Jimmy Ballard and learned that lag and pressuring the shaft happened organically as a result of change of direction in the swing. This allowed me to focus on the big muscles rather than small ones in hands and wrist that have a tendency to choke under pressure. It is also is an additional independent move to think about. All of a sudden I had a game that was simpler, less dependent on timing and traveled as the other didn’t. Ball had a lot less spin or curve, and hit it longer and straight. Never had to worry about left side misses.
When you look at the tour pros most will initiate the downswing prior to completion of the backswing.This kinetic energy naturally will create the lag and shaft load and be less dependent on flippy wrists , hands and independent arm motion.
Small muscles can’t be trusted under the heat. That’s why people get the yips with chipping and putting.
Looking back the 30 years, my golf game did evolve as you depicted.
Clay you've come a long way man. Been watching you for years and years and just realized you're over 500k... Crazy stuff, but congrats! You deserve it.
I am a person who is very new to golf. Love it. I've been playing with friends who are very helpful, yet have been playing for many years. Your videos are very helpful for me. I think you're a very good teacher and I've watched many other videos at this point from different people. A lot of great ones or helpful ones. The one thing I have learned by doing this is you can be a great golfer but not that great of a teacher. I shared your videos with a friend who's been playing for 20 years and instantly said it was very helpful. Thank you. I like when you often include a slow motion side-by-side shot while you're teaching because it's very helpful. Some people just way to the very end the show that that's not nearly as helpful. Just keep doing what you're doing. Much appreciated! Thanks again!
My pleasure! Glad your enjoying the instruction.
Love this!! Clay you make something so complicated so easy to understand!
Clay is the man, I have been a fan since day one. He is so kind and generous to want to help people
This is the first video i have seen on the subject of force and speed. Thanks.
My pleasure!
After 40 years studying the golf swing this is arguably the greatest lesson of them all - brilliant!!
I'm just getting back into golfing and love the secret lag technique and all the driving, chipping training you give. I'm hitting my 7 iron 75 yards farther and straighter than ever. Thank you Clay for your awesome teaching videos. I'm finally enjoying the game of Golf...
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last year, you put out a video with the best explanation of the physics of lag I've seen. It has been a tremendous help in starting the downswing. In that video you pointed out the the center of mass (near but not all the way to the clubhead) will want to swing out to be in line with the direction of the shaft.
For a long time I thought you and Larry Cheung (check out his channel) had different perspectives of the golf swing. This video made it all come full circle for me. Thanks Clay! More coaches need to make that clear, it’s changed my whole game!
Thanks for sharing! Play well!
Hi Clay, I'm A OTR truck driver and don't get to play as much as I want to. But I practice your drills when I get to stop for my break (when weather permits...lol). I've noticed a vast improvement in my swing. I'm now looking forward to taking it to the course. Thanks again Larry 😊
We applaud your dedication, Larry! Keep up the good work!
I’ve watched 1000 tutorials on releasing early. Covered every topic from grip to weight shift to standing up… all great but not applicable to my specifics. This “delayed lag” did it for me. Literally one swing and it clicked. You’re the best, Clay!!
THANKS CLAY! Wow! This was a gamechanger for me today. Not cocking the wrists in the backswing and trying to add lag by acceleration really gave me great form today. It was only one session but I will absolutely be incorporating this into my swing. I had great earlier weight transfer, ball then turf contact, a straighter lead arm, and great finishing position on the outer left foot. And somehow this even allowed for better body rotation, maybe because I wasn't getting stalled by the arms, leaving the weight too far back, pushing the weight to the toes, or standing through impact. Wow.
Glad you found this helpful. Keep up the good work!
This is a game changer for me Clay. Tried this at the range today and felt compression I lost 2 yrs ago for good it seemed. Need to remind myself to close the clubface as you say but this helps me to go thru with the upper body a lot more. Thanks a lot!
Great to hear! Keep up the good work!
Clay-you are putting some of the best instruction I’ve seen. Thank you!!!!
My pleasure! Play well!
Thanks Clay. Another awesome video. Love your studio as well. I’d love to have that at home. It makes sense to not hinge in the backswing but to allow it to hinge in the downswing to create lag. Can’t wait to try this out. Nice one buddy.
Thanks 👍 Best of luck!
Looks very nice tip , thanks for helping me improve my golf.
hope you well Clay, thanks for brilliant video this really helped me, stay safe and all the best from Ireland
Great description on the physics of lag; especially how you described the shallowing out of the downward swing plane to sharpen the lag angle. For simplicity, I just use the feeling of very loose wrists riding the rim of a wheel that turns one way on the backswing, and then the other way on the downswing. The club is just naturally swinging back and forth where the wrists just act like a loose swivel hinge attached to the turning wheel rim. Thanks for the great tips.
Glad you enjoyed it. Play well!
Thank you for using the word physics. Deceleration releases the club. When folks assemble all your great advise together, they got to find the tempo to make their swing repeatable with consistent positive outcomes.
Thanks for sharing! Play well!
Very good instruction Clay..! Gonna try it out on the practice range tomorrow. Thank you !
Great video Clay! Lag is very important to gaining distance. Nice!!
Thanks! Play well!
@@TopSpeedGolf thanks I will try.
nice studio Clay ... good to see your channel thriving
Thanks!
This one video completely changed my game. Thanks Clay !!
Glad to hear it!
“In the belt area” lol. Nice save, Clay.
Haha! 😂 A nice save in multiple regards! 😀
this is gold... the most important insight here is that lagging is a by product of rotation not the product of using your wrist
One of the best golf swings with lag who i tried to emulate was David Duval. He and i are about the same build and I worked hard to swing like him. I found that my clubface was square at impact and many of my shots were long and straight. I used a strong grip and had more of a body rotation back through feeling like my arms and hands were trailing behind me. Strong grip, fast hip.
Thanks for sharing! Play well!
This video completely changed my golf game, Added 10+ yards to every club!
Awesome! Glad to hear it. Keep up the good work!
OMG. Once I got this move down, I was striping it like I did as a teenager. Thanks Clay!
My pleasure! Keep up the good work.
I enjoy your instrustion immensely and it has helped me get my hands in better position to get good contact, BUT my left wrist (I'm a righty) feels tension to the point of being uncomfortable at impact. Is this just because I'm not used to it yet? Or i need to stretch more?? Also where can I get that awesome Snell den bag (lol)?
You could try to strengthen your grip some and that would mitigate how much you have to bow your lead wrist to square the club. Experiment with it to see what works best for you. The Snell bag was given to us by Snell. I don't think you can buy one. You could check with them though. Best of luck! Nate | TSG Instructor
Thank you. I will try a 'stronger' grip angle.
In the drill sequence, you can really see how opening the hips helps with getting that lag through impact. Great stuff!
Glad you found it helpful. Play well!
Great vid 1 problem your young im 75 yrs. old played for 50 years i had 110 mph when i was 40 now 77 MPH no mater what i try still the same speed
Clay, do you think practicing on mats could hurt someone's game? If so, what drills do you recomend to practice on golf mats to compensate the missing feel from real grass?
It doesn't have to hurt your game if you practice the correct way. What you don't get off of mats is what kind of ground contact you're making unless you're hitting it way in front or behind the ball. I'd get impact stickers or foot spray powder and work on where I'm striking the ball on the face. You can also practice hitting controlled draws and fades provided you can see where the ball travels. There are also mats out there that you can attach to the top of a traditional mat to see where your club is making contact with the ground. Best of luck! Nate | TSG Instructor
clay, when i keep my wrists loose like that i top a lot of my shots , so i have to firm up my hands but it costs me distance i'm sure. what is the best way to keep the lag release from happening too early?
There are some great drills is this video that should help with that: ruclips.net/video/2r2rhwbFgGE/видео.html Best of luck! Nate | TSG Instructor
Hey clay. I’m a really good iron player myself but that’s because I’ve been able to practice with my irons all winter long. Driver is too big to practice in the living rooms. Just wanna know if I should try to shallow out the driver like you’re doing with your irons here
Yes, it's the same swing with all full shots. The plane is flatter on a longer clubs and the ball position moves forward with the driver, but everything else is the same. Play well! Nate | TSG Instructor
Oh...Man..This is gold
Thanks! Play well!
This is good never had the lag explained before
Wow~ great easy shot. I’m going to same way.
Tnx for this great video. This really perfect
great, great, great many thx
My pleasure!
Literally fantastic!
Thanks! Play well!
I wonder, if Clay, you have reviewed what Bertie Cordle has described the consequences of full release before and after impact. I think his explanation is spot on.
Thanks for sharing!
Awesome instruction
I would love to see a "playing from roughs" lesson withe different lies (different density, behind a higher grass tip, in front of a small hassock, out of dense wet grass, you name it)! Club selection, stand. ball position, grip, swing (full, half), etc.
Hey Clay are you affiliated with the snitz golf spinner swing motion trainer? I just saw an ad with you swinging in the video just wanted to make sure you were aware.
We're not affiliated with them. Thanks for the heads-up.
Great video but I'm not sure when I'd be able to use any of this. The key for me is focusing on less, not more in a golf swing.
Hi Clay! I managed to get pretty good impact position and quality wedge shots. However, my length has gone shorter. I don't feel much power. What am I doing wrong. ?
Great video Clay, 👍
Really interesting. Wasn't aware I could increase lag by changing the viewing angle of my swing. My stubborn wrist still maintains its 90 degree angle to my forearm.
Thanks for sharing!
Hmm. This is definitely different from everything I’ve tried so far to overcome and fully stop scooping at impact with no lag or shaft lean at all in my impact position. Hopefully this will help me.
Thanks for sharing! Best of luck!
This is worth 100 other golf videos...
I think .. i could be wrong... but this explains the rahm and finau short backswings and massive distances.
Those guys are big, long and strong - those aspects also help tremendously with their power with such short backswings. Also, they both shallow the club and release their lag through the ball. Play well! Nate | TSG Instructor
You're not wrong, my very dude.
Clay, I seem to have an issue coming into the impact zone with a very toe down club face, or vertical shaft...when I have a very bowed left wrist. Is there a video that would help me with this? Thank you.
Here is a video on RUclips that may help: ruclips.net/video/reEOVk-oe2I/видео.html
It sounds like you need to shallow your club path on the downswing. We have a whole course (The Move) along with the rest of the TSG system and a ton of other stuff on the site for our members. If you're ready to purchase the membership, just use the quick link below because you can sign up in about 1 minute: topspeedgolf.com/pick-all-access-plan/ Best of luck! Nate | TSG Instructor
@@TopSpeedGolf Thank you Nate
My pleasure!
Hi Clay the last split second of releasing the lagging of the club at the shallow end of my swing has mess me up for years.
As you know as the hands path goes so goes the head of your club lagging/ pulling behind our hands to the impact zone. Correct?
So imagine your golf club is like a kid sitting on a swing. The grip end represents the kid; and, the head of the club represents the swing.
(Bearing in mind that as one side of our body pushes with our lead hand, shoulder, hip, knee, and angle joints this push action at the joints o our body causes our muscles on the same side to pull/ contract; so that on the other side of our body, our muscles and joints are are relaxed to turn our body.
So on the back swing as our lead side muscles are pulling/ contracting; our trail side muscles are relaxing and turning and the on our down swing as our trail side muscles are pulling/ contracting our lead side muscles are relaxing and turning to the completion of pushing the kid on the swing )
As a side note believe it or not all the muscles in our body are built to only pull/contract or relax; but never push. When we push with our hands the muscles in our body pulls and and when we pull something with our hands our muscles are relaxed. So pulling the handle of our club in either direction we are actually putting no pulling muscles/ contracting muscles to work effectively into our swing whatsoever; and, we are actually relaxing most of them especially the ones of our upper torso.
So as you stay within your golf posture until the end of your swing; and not even thinking about what various parts of your body are doing; all I want you to do is push the kid ( grip) back with your lead hands for the backswing and then on your downswing. with your trail hand, push and keep pushing the kid all the way to the end of your forward swing.
With the rotation move of your body as your hands are continually pushing the kid back and then forth with alternates hands, his swing ( the club head) will go down leveling to the ground and then up and around your body to the full completion of your pushing the kid on his swing.
All the hinges in our body must be passive and unlocked for our body to work in sequence; especially when we are pushing the kid on the swing both our wrists must be unlocked and passive throughout the process as well
As far as the ball go it just gets in the way of pushing the kid on the swing.
Hope you try it for your self and let me know what you think. It’s my new analogy of the golf swing that I will keep the rest of my life. It is my personal take on Ed Merrins “ Swing thé Handle” Cheers
Thanks for taking the time to share. Play well!
Have lessons tomorrow at the pga superstore. Hopefully as understandable as you!
Best of luck!
great advice. thanks
Glad it was helpful!
The way he drops his hands down on the backswing reminds me of Sergio Garcia’s swing.
Good video.
This drill reminds me of Sergio how he pulls the chain and whips through the ball
thought the same
Very similar for sure. No one quite does it like Sergio though. His hands are lower than anyone else I've seen. Play well! Nate | TSG Instructor
Great video Clay keep them coming 👍🏽
Thanks 👍 Will do.
Keep on going men... u r awesome!
Without adjusting to the new move and squaring the club face earlier than what you’ve got used to, this is shank city?
A good trick I've learned is to have my back face the target for as long as I can during down swing. As soon as I start my shoulder turn on down swing, I am accelerating through.
Nice. Thanks for sharing!
If you grip to tightly can that prevent lag also?
MIND BLOWN 🤯
clay you should be an expert on the golfing machine by Homer Kelley.😊
I've played a lot of tennis and have no problem squaring the face because the racquet handle is square and I can feel my palm facing forward. Maybe they should make a square golf grip.???
Class what did we learn,
*Lag is good in golf*
ALL u need to do is keep ur hands LOW at setup .... lag has always been natural in my swing .... was teased about this back in the days .... but now is all guys talk about... trust me Clay... LOW hands at setup does this without all this crazy moves to think about. BEST is to for those who don't do it usually to do it a little "extreme" in their view = get about 25-30° angle between arms straight down and shaft leaning away from u.... there is no need for all these complications... really. Take care bud... folks... lag is NOT something u create from million moves.... u set it up before u start swinging!
maybe i should try this, thnx.
Thanks for sharing!
Great vid as always Clay..also I dig the hat..where did you get it?
THank you, i think i found the lag feeling after watching your video
Exactly what I am doing. Lol. I must of sent a video of my swing. Trying to get snap at bottom of arc. Thanks.
Haha! 😀 Glad we're on the same page. Play well!
How would this apply to a driver swing?
It's the same swing for all full shots. The ball is just moved forward in the stance for the driver. Best of luck! Nate | TSG Instructor
Lag and shallowing in DS , happens by physics IF we slide during the BS and let wrists be free swinging hinges, not power hinges.
What does this mean?
It means in BS, the goal(intention) is to point the right palm facing the sky, to keep it facing the sky through impact. During the BS, Ben Hogan said he pushed off with his right foot as one pushes off the end of a swimming pool.
Watch Hogans videos. During the BS he pushes off the right foot in order to slide his hips toward the target.
At top of BS, his right hip is now lined up with the back of the ball, in position to be axis of rotation for the right elbow.
It is the slide toward the target during the BS, that shallows the arms and the club...and the kinematic sequence
increases lag, during the DS(as long as wrists are allowed to be free swinging hinges)
Check where Ben Hogans right hip is at top of BS, how much closer to the target it has slid, before DS begins.
ruclips.net/video/QL_6M_xZvq0/видео.html
Read all about it: The Hogan Manual of Human Performance: GOLF, Gerry Hogan, 1991.
I kind of was the opposite... I started to have to use lag cause I was snap hooking everything or pulling it, now I use it and I'm hitting my distances more consistently, like I can actually hit my 5 iron about 225
"i had to watch out about to hit me in the ba... belt area" haha that's great
Haha! 😂 A great save in multiple aspects! 😀 Play well!
@@TopSpeedGolf k
Accelerating late! Reminds me of my driving instructor’s lesson on cornering. Slow into the corner, change down (shift stick, but I’m Brit as you know) then accelerate out. The guy in his V12 Caddy thats was sitting on your a….s is suddenly a small dot in your review mirror! Oh, and your golf ball has taken off like a rocket!
Clay, do you have a school that I can go to?
We will start offering Distance Clinics again soon. Also, Robin, our Director of Instruction, does private lessons in the Orlando, FL area. If interested then follow this link: topspeedgolf.com/in-person-lessons-with-robin-rosado/. Play well! Nate | TSG Instructor
@@TopSpeedGolf how do I sign up for a distance clinic? Please, take my money
You have to be a member of the site to be eligible for Distance Clinics, Swing Reviews, etc. We send out emails and it's first come, first serve with the clinics. Right now there's no set timetable for their return, but hopefully soon. If you're ready to purchase the membership, just use the quick link below because you can sign up in about 1 minute: topspeedgolf.com/pick-all-access-plan/
Gregg mc hasten calls this the caddie drill or the Scottish lag. Very old school, ala Bobby jones
what happens if you do motorcycle move on backswing
Lol never seen someone release that early
Last video I saw he was hitting his 6 iron 200. Now it’s his 7. Next up...200 yard lob wedge.
Haha! 😂 I think he misspoke the first time he mentions his club. Fairly certain that was a 6-iron. Good catch! Nate | TSG Instructor
When they measured the average pro, his hand speed was 25 mph, and the first to move after the weight shift to recentering, I know this is a drill, but slow hand motion is contradictory?
💡 !
Glad you found this helpful. Play well!
I noticed you bring your hands down from the top of the swing instead of bringing the hands across. That is one of the things I've just learned.
In contrast to the explanation, the real swing still have a supination of left arm before pass the inner side of the left leg.
No one could break natural rule, including DJ, Bryson Dechamber, Justin Thomas, Cameron Champ.
If someone could do it, please do let me know.
Why did you not turn at 4.15?
7:50 exactly my issue.
You can throw your hands as fast as you want from the top if you start the downswing with the lower body and clear the hips properly. Your example of so called releasing too quickly your lower body stayed perfectly still and your hips didn't move, of course it looked bad. If you did the same lower body movement with your good lag swing it would produce the same ugly result. If you move your lower body correctly you can't release the club too early no matter how fast you try to release the hands, you'll be flat out getting to release the club at impact even if you feel like you're releasing too early. I agree with everything else you said about casting etc as that's one of the biggest myths in the golf swing that casting is bad as you have to cast to get the club to release in such a short space of time from the top of the swing to impact (if you try to hold lag you're dead), but you exaggerated your example of releasing the hands early by not doing your normal swing with the lower body. It does depend somewhat on the speed of the hips; golfers who don't move their hips fast would do better with slower hands, but for guys with super fast hips they almost have to start releasing their hands from the top or they'll get to impact with the club face way open and hands leaning too far forward.
Tony Finau would be a great example of this 'relaxed' swing, in my opinion...
Thanks for sharing! Play well!
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Thanks!
Not so sure about shallowing the club out on the way down. Could lead to a hand flip and lots of shots going left. Most top players try and do the opposite
ROBIN LYNN TOUCHSTONE 11-26-2022 AUSTIN, TEXAS
What's your problem man
This is how Finau and Rahm generate ridiculous power with short backswings.
A ton of lag doesn’t show much in the video in the beginning.
ok so that is why when I hit those gorgeous feeling shots they always miss the target to the right...
Are you planning on ever coming back to tennis?
Only personally and for fun. Thanks!
@@TopSpeedGolf if you don’t mind me asking, why’d you quit?
The golf site takes up most of my time. Play well!
@@TopSpeedGolf thx, I enjoy watching your serving videos
Hands and grip need to be soft to do that
Thanks for sharing!
Really what you are saying is to use the club like a whip.
When you release lag through the ball, yes it's a whip-like motion. Play well! Nate | TSG Instructor
200 yards with a 7 😳😳😳😳 holy sht
200 f***ing yards with his 7 iron... dang
7 irons have 5 irons loft these days...
@@mikevigil3677 very true but regardless clay can mash the ball. Makes it looks so easy and then why I try to do it at home i take chunks out of my practice matt and contemplate selling my shit lol
@@jughead6654 No doubt about that, I can only hit my 5 about 175 yards, manufactures always claiming their clubs are the longest has turned 9 irons into 7's as well, I use older clubs with the original lofts so when they hit the green they stick, I would rather tell my buddies in the club house how good my score was not that I hit a 9 a 150 yards and scored like shit because it rolled off the green and bogeyed the hole...
I think he misspoke the first time he mentioned his club. Pretty sure it was a 6-iron, but still pretty solid nonetheless. Play well! Nate | TSG Instructor
@@TopSpeedGolf I am lucky enough to have 3 awesome golf instructors on RUclips and Clay is one of them he swings the golf club like a bow across the strings of a Stradivarius....