Toronto says goodbye to its classic red streetcars
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- Опубликовано: 29 дек 2019
- The Toronto Transit Commission has officially retired the last of its old red streetcars after 42 years. The entire surface fleet will now be made up of the new accessible, low-floor streetcars.
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The old street cars should be kept running on a separate tourism route.
Maybe a winery tour, a ski lodge, large park or zoo or some other tourist attraction would want to buy them.
It would be a shame to not use them somewhere else.
Kenz300 x look up Halton County Radial Railway. They have 3 CLRVs and an ALRV
In London they do this with the Route Master double decker buses. People love those buses. Historical rides on those bus run all the time through London, and stop at regular bus stops. If you don't do things like this you lose your heritage.
@@bostonblackie9503 That actually was discontinued.
They have this in Edmonton. Three of the old streetcars are used for tourism over the high level bridge
Valid ideas.
The old ones had heat....
In the summer
🤣
And smells, the stomach churning smells
Just be glad your city still has streetcars. I live in Chicago and we haven't seen streetcars since 1958.
Living at Montreal, I feel you bro
Come to Melbourne, Australia. Largest tram (streetcar) network in the world.
Eh, at least Hong Kong still has trams.
@@LordDavid04 Lucky
Tony Shu I wonder what they are actually used for currently... oof
They came, they conquered, they battled winter, they travelled millions of kilometers. And now they roll to the siding in the skies. Farewell CLRV 1977-2019.
Wilfstor “the siding in the skies”... my God that’s so poetically beautiful!
@@theaustinleeytchanneltalytc yeah but 4000 wasn't still one of the most questionable choices by the TTC.
I used to live in Toronto. From childhood through to twenties. I LOVED riding the street cars. Used to get off at a different stop just so I had to ride one to go home.
At least Toronto is keeping the streetcar as a mode of transportation. The new Bombardier cars look really nice.
I'm gonna miss those streetcars. They've been an icon of the city for my entire life.
With that being said, the newer streetcars are a huge improvement.
At least there is still streetcars. Most cities got rid of theirs. However, I’ve ridden these streetcars and they are beauties.
The new streetcars are a vast improvement. They're lower, and they have five doors rather than two, which means that they load and unload much more quickly and easily.
Also they have rigid bogies are more pron to derailments, thus leading to overall lower speeds which is dumb.
*they need the bell*
@@beeter3588
They have horns, and they're not the least bit reluctant to use them!
@@siachoquero Bruh that makes no sense
I ❣️ when Reporter waited for the *ding ding* to end her segment. So, original!
In New Zealand we still using streetcars from the 1920s and 30s
I see them a lot at Motat & in AKLD's Wynyard Quarter too.
Yes, though commuter ones haven’t been in continuous service.
Old tracks have had to be re-installed for the most part to service the tourist industry, as we transitioned to a car and bus based society back in the late ‘50s.
I used to ride those around downtown Toronto, between China Town & Young Street.
There is something really great about the old ones, on a warm day, when it's not too busy on College or Dundas...just watching the City whizz by with the window open and your arm on the ledge.
Not fr Toronto, I thought at first they were getting rid of the whole system. Just upgrading the streetcars
I still miss the older ones they replaced in the '70's, there was something about the classic style that was like going back in time. Got used to the new ones and now they got old, all of a sudden I'm afraid to look in the mirror.
shame for Toronto and TTC to not keeping at least one vintage line for locals and turists
They're stored at a Museum in Halton
I must be getting old. I remember when they retired the PCC cars.
My son and I rode the streetcars while on vacation in Toronto. Wonderful memories; loved the clanging of the bell.
I’ve lived in Toronto my whole life, and I remember loving these streetcars and made a comic based around them. I will miss these street cars.
I remember when they were new. I had just started at Ryerson in 1979. I hope a few of these will end up and the Halton County Radial Railway Museum. (they will still look new there)
I guess all hood things must come to an end, huh.
Boyz 'N the Hood.
Come to an end.. come to an end...
I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one with that habitual typo.
Sad truth about it...
I have not rode them and there’s no chance I will. I’ve been wanting to travel to Toronto but couldn’t afford to.
W.L. Customs I arrived in Toronto like 3 days after they stopped these old trams...I was sooo close
Remember riding these to the CNE every year
It was so awesome the bells are just awesome
Who remembers the red subway trains ?
My goal as a kid was to be tall enough to reach the spring loaded arms bolted to the roof......they retired them before I was old enough! :-(
@@muskokamike127 I remember those and I was able to reach them 😎
Yeah
Scott, back in 🗽 when I was a kid in 1985-1989.
@NvrSayNvr triggered
These streetcars feels very romantic and old timey for. I love riding them whenever I had a chance.
Toronto has to learn from Prague when it comes to trams.
@Jim Morrison You do realise that fare avoiders can be found in every country, even Japan?
@Jim Morrison Nope, I didn't know that. Do you have a source to that statistics which you could share with us?
It could have been worse: At least they didn’t abolish the streetcar network like they did in London, New York or Hamburg.
They should. Those overhead wires are disgusting. All my fellow tourists would agree.
Galla Sebiyo So you prefer inhaling exhaust fumes? Not to mention global warming!
@@gallasebiyo4427 As I tourists I love cities with the streetcar system and I think their tracks look lovely
Ah memories of these streetcars that are retiring now, and the ones that came before.
One good thing the TTC has done for years is the street cars. I really enjoyed riding them
I lived in Toronto from 2013-2014, had a couple of good memories riding that old thing. Had to catch one very early in the morning up in King at -30, high on weed. Rode it everyday to Ryerson downtown, slept in it once after an all nigther from a project. Always weird seeing that since it looks like the oldest system running in the TTC compared to the busses and subways. Miss those, since my country doesn't have a rail system.
i puked in one of them on my way to the bar - ahh good times
Thats a feat so before you even got to the bar what was the return journey like - back of paddy wagon?
Anon521 that’s when you found out that you were pregnant
Many many many people have puked on the TTC. And at Finch. Lol
uhhh.... who hasnt??
I hope the retired trams find a new life in other cities around the world.
These car had way passed their service life. They either go into museum or get junked.
林振华 I submit to you Philadelphia’s formerly huge fleet of PCCs - San Francisco had no problem snatching up the less-mothballed ones for the F line way back when.
Meanwhile here in Sydney trams are being reintroduced after they demolished them 60 years ago...
Toronto is the only city in North America to have kept its' streetcar network intact through the 20th century
nlpnt San Francisco?
@@aniketrudraksha Only a few routes that mainly catered to tourists.
As a Torontonian who had to opt out of taking streetcars due to them breaking nearly every day and to switching to taking buses and the subway... FINALLY, they retired them! Thank God!
Sad 😢 that the old Toronto's old streetcars get retired 🚈
i think most can agree the new cars are better in almost every way, but there's a special, sentimental place for the things one grows up with that often can't be replaced. change is bittersweet.
I never saw these before but I say bye to them too.
It surprises me that you see these trams as old when European cities have trams twice as old as this.
Magic word "maintainance" ;)
Weird flex but okay..
As long as they keep street cars.
So glad I had a chance to ride those iconic trains when I visited the town 4 years ago. It was brutally cold outside, but it was very toasty inside.
That saddens me. I grew up with street cars (in Berlin, Germany) and have always liked them.
Sad. I really liked the look and feel of these.
I remember when they were brand new - when I worked in Toronto
I went to Toronto last summer and got to ride both streetcars. The new ones are so much better. It was possible to get a seat at rush hour from Union to Queen's Quay and Harbourfront Centre. The old cars were a nightmare during rush hour, with my chest being bent over a metal pole on the seat. (I was standing too!) However, these streetcars will always have a special place in Toronto's history, and the nostalgia will always remain.
Those old streetcars were nice to ride in the rain what with most of them leaking and such a real treat
Here in Hamburg, Germany the tramway has been terminated 1978. Hamburg has four metro lines and six commuter train lines. Hamburg is Germany's second largest city.
Lived in Toronto for a year and loved to ride them. I remember once the driver shut the door on my face and apologized until his third generation like all good Canadians 🤣🤣
Love you, Canada 🇨🇦 🇧🇷
I'm so glad I rode a couple of them when I was in Toronto in January 2019. Unfortunately I rode them unaware they were going to be retiring so soon. Otherwise I'd have taken pictures on the inside as those guys did. My country (Brazil) retired her streetcars long ago when I was still a toddler. They are returning now to some capitals (like Rio de Janeiro) with a fancy name (light rail transit vehicles - veículo leve sobre trilhos in Portuguese), but this revival is still very incipient. One of my wishes is to be able to drive one of these cutes one day.
The flashing lights as the doors open really help on the newer street cars.
Of course the asian kid calls it a gong.
What do you mean by a gong?
MisterOwlz it is called a gong. U must call it a BELL or a HORN
@@Joseph10026 The gong, as it's called on the controls, is the bell that makes the iconic "ding-ding" sound. (And yes, it's me!)
I'm not a Torontonian so I'm not particularly nostalgic about these streetcars, but as a visitor using a mobility device, these old cars were a little difficult to ride in. Now they're finally being brought up to the standards I've been experiencing in Europe for the past couple of years. I'm looking even more forward to revisiting Toronto, hopefully in 2020, and riding the streetcars even more than I ever used to!
Love these streetcars ❤️
Me 2 personally.
Then get Married with one of them
😬😬😬
Roy I don’t believe in social constructs. 😬
Thank God
I live in Norway but i’m using these in Transport Fever 2 👀
Was on the St Clair streetcar late at night one time and the driver let us stand close by to see how the streetcar was operated
When were the last ones taken out of service? From the dates of the comments, I'm guessing about 2019/2020?
great video -Joaquim Antunes - São Paulo - Brasil
Thank god!
Justincasedee I-
I remember when these were new!
Toronto should have gotten rid of half, and gotten half the amount of new ones. Or asked the public their opinion. Washington DC in America has all active metros in the city. Including the third or second generation metros.
Waaah? Last time I rode one it was new!
That's me at 0:19 !
nobody cares
The gong!. I never been on one would have been nice. I have seen them on City TV for a long time :).
Pranavan Sada you do. You went out of your way to provide your unsolicited opinion
Congrats :)
@@pranavansada8970 Best comment ever!
Awwww I was hoping to go to Toronto to see 😪😪😪😪
I was lucky to get into one on my way to the waterfront . . considering I just moved here.
Ohhh. We’re just replacing the old streetcars with new ones. From the title I thought Toronto was getting rid of them entirely. I’m glad it’s not that.
I know I'm not from Toronto, but I just feel so sad seeing these antique vehicles leaving.
It going to feel weird when I'm going to come up and visit again to know that the streetcars I learned how to get around Toronto in are gone :( I remember when I was a kid my father taught me how to take the transit routes and at times take the streetcar when we were in the downtown area from Maple so it's going to feel weird when I'm visiting the Toronto area again
*sigh* I'm gonna miss these old clunkers. They transported millions of people for 42 years. Just like the ALRV's. I'm gonna miss the CLRV's. Hence the reason I call them "clunky light rail vehicles'
the old one was more spacious inside, even had a huge LOUNGE in the back... granted it leaked when it rained, but I enjoyed it way, way more.
Oh no.. I came all the way to Canada to experience a ride in that interesting transport.. And now it's getting closed😭😭
They should have been preserved in a museum Some regauged to Pennsylvania Trolley gauge in order to operate on Philadelphia Trolley Network as a special train. Needs CBTC for Center City to 30th Street tunnel
I wish I was back in Toronto to take few pics 😢
The CLRV's made me motion sick
I still miss them now though
An easy thing to forget is the practical reasoning
Bout to get the exact ones in Philadelphia in a few years.
FatKid 73 Can you imagine new LRVs replacing the PCC-IIs currently running on Girard? (sniff)...
SEPTA doesnt know which trams they will be getting
I rode this car on my trip to Toronto
RIP
Why are trams just disappearing everywhere in North America, but Europe just loves them and embraces them?
trams are coming back all over North America. Most big cities either have them, are building them or are planning to have them. Even in New York City, a new line is going to be built along the waterfront between Brooklyn and Queens.
Ivailo Stoychev I don’t think they’re getting rid of the streetcar system, looks like there just replacing the classic old gen ones
Lawrence Lewis except Americans call them “streetcars” or “trolleys”.
The old ones did have heat.
I like how those ones lasted 40 years.... but they only expect the new ones to last 30.... things are getting worse not better...
cowscrazy you’re not that bright are you. The old ones didn’t last 40urs they were introduced 40yrs ago, they’ve been upgraded since dumb dumb
ChangeHumanity You are the dumb one if you think you needed to insult him for that minor overlook.
Because technological is rapidly improving
Umm... What's going on here? Why are the comments enabled ?
WHAT??? Ahh, ok there's still new bigger RED models replacing the old ones. I thought Doug Ford was slashing another vital service for a moment.
The TTC is under control of the city.
It might smell sometimes but it's a classic.
in Australia they keep it . I love Australia classic tram 😘😘😘
Meanwhile in Sydney, Australia, we said goodbye to the T6 Carlingford line.
i never went on these i lived in Etobicko when i was 14 tock the subway only for school
The old street cars should be moved to smaller cities or towns where transit is a problem
Toronto doesn’t look like the same anymore with these new streetcars.😭😭🤯🤯👎👎 I want the old streetcars back and the old streetcars look so much better than the new streetcars
*now I'm jus sad that my oma moved out of Toronto cause now I know I will never be able to ride on them again
Bye-bye inaccessible streetcars! See you at the Halton County Railway Museum!
I saw em in march 2019
I kinda like the old streetcars because the new ones force you to sit face to face with strangers up close XD
When I moved to Toronto 7 years ago, this was the plan...it took 7 years for Bombardier to make enough trains?
So, will the old cars be broken up? Hope not.
It was better than, ttc new buses. Instead of putting to museum build new lines across towns, or replace with buses
"OLD STREETCARS!?" The old Streetcars were replaced in 1977!
Yes, I know, they were "the new streetcars" once as well. (mid '50's?)
Bring em back!
No
I would say changes are inevitable
In a few years, Vancouver will be doing the same with its Mark I SkyTrain cars.
That's a shame. These semi-flexible bogied low floor replacements age very quickly and I can't see them lasting 42 years. I'd rather have seen low floor trailers added.
vanilla interiors still suiting Rotton-Ø trams mightily fine