You've done a great work. But what I really admire is your personality. Your reaction on rejection and criticism is always friendly, even to aggressive critics. May God protect you and bless you!
*Dan I love your videos; they are amazingly informative; thank you very much. I have one very special and important question for you? Do you really like these blue shirts that much?* 🙄
You are such a great data analyst and researcher of the time. you strengthen our holy Muslim spirit. This is how Allah shows his signs and want us to find the actual story of Ibrahim or Abraham or a Hindu Brahmin.
I've followed your historical revelations for years and am quite convinced you are correct. Provable accuracy like this is so necessary to inform and correct the traditional story passed down to us. In Christian studies, Dr. James Tabor is doing similar work. You should collaborate your information on the Abrahamic Era and original Islam as an attempt to return to it.
As a muslim I started taking Islam more seriously and learning about it after following your work , it definitely make much sense now. Many Thanks and keep telling the truth.
Those reactions are typical of those suffering from cognitive dissonance. The information you're presenting strikes at the very foundation of their belief systems, so they lash out at the person presenting the information. Ad hominem is their usual reaction, because they are unable to refute the facts. Since the facts upset their beliefs, they go into a survival mode and ignore anything that upsets those beliefs.
I've always thought it was more logical that Khyber was raided on the way back from 'Mecca' i.e. Petra ( after the truce of Hudaibia) rather than returning to Medina and then setting out 150 miles north once reaching Medina.
As a layman. On this issue Sura 2 seems to be internally inconsistent in the first place. All sides need to look again at that Ethiopian loan words issue as not clear cut in King's or what is articulated by Jay favour or against.
There is another video in this series at: ruclips.net/video/MAirvq_BaHY/видео.html For some reason it doesn't seem to show up in the playlist. Perhaps because I am only linked to it.
Please include two of the recently discovered mosques in Israel in your working as well. One is located in Negev desert and the other is with sea of Galilee.
I am not sure which mosques you are referring to. The Rahat mosque and the Tibereous mosque are covered in the website. nabataea.net/explore/cities_and_sites/rahat-mosque/ and nabataea.net/explore/cities_and_sites/tiberias-umayyad-mosque/, New mosques are being uncovered all the time... but it is best to wait until the archaeological reports come out... but I do address some earlier if the media makes a big deal about them, usually with wrong or exaggerated claims.
The reason you face backlash is simple they are not Muslims (Sunni,Shia, etc.) the Quran specifically calls what they do as idol worship! That’s why it makes no sense to them…Understand the Quran for yourself. Quran 39:45 Beautiful research
A theological theory, the satan "asks" a price for his help(in the story of the prophet Bileam things didn't go exactly one way), yhwh having Canaan assigned to him instead of baäl has therefore no presents outside of Canaan.(the glory of god, glory meaning a reflection of light so not the light itself) Jabal al-Lawz is a very much better fit for Mount Sinai then the other proposals for example and so forth. Or it's just a kind of sympathetic magic variant thing.
You haven’t mentioned the most important point..if prophet Mohammed was from Mecca in Saudi Arabia it would mean he is initially Yemeni. We all know he is not from Yemen which stretched to Madeena. His mother was from Madeena Hens he is half Yemeni half Shami which makes a lot of sense 😊
Your measurements of the Petra Kaaba have change over the years: 1st: 14.63 m x 10.6 m x 14.17 m x 9.1 m … (on your website Nabataea) 2nd: 17.6 m x 11 m x 17.05 m x 12.1 m … (on your website Nabataea) 3rd: 16.4 m x 10.2 m x 17 m x 11.9 m … (in your last book ‘’Let the stone speak’’p.120”) What happen to your measuring tape???
There are two things to measure in Petra... one is the altar itself, and one is the Altar with the stairway leading up to it. Azraqi's measurements include the stairs leading up to it. Hence a larger measurement. The second problem with measuring the altar, is that it is so worn down, the corner where the stones used to be is smashed way, and so deciding on exact measurements is difficult. Please look at images or drawing of the altar. It is, however, very close to Azraqi's measurements.
On your website you wrote: On Page 27 Azraqī tells us that it was made of rough stone laid dry. And the dimensions of the sides are listed as: north-east: 32 cubits, north-west: 22 cubits, south-west: 31 cubits, south-east: 20 cubits. So the proportions were roughly 3:2. We can calculate a cubit as 0.4572 meters, if we do that, then the dimensions would have been: 14.63 meters x 10.6 meters x 14 meters and by 9 meters and so forth. In your book ‘’Let the stones speak” p.119: Crucially, al-Azraqī recorded the dimensions of the pre-Islamic Ka’ba. He documented the sides of the Ka’ba as: north-east, 32 cubits; north-west, 22 cubits; south-west, 31 cubits; and south-east, 20 cubits. The proportions of this early Ka’ba were roughly 3:2. If we calculate a cubit as 0.53 meters, then the dimensions would have been 17 meters x 11.6 meters x 16.4 meters x 10.6 meters. So the cubit has change? cubit as 0.4572 meters … now cubit as 0.53 meters??
We did a study of the various cubits used in ancient times... the Egyptian cubit differed from the Babylonian, from the Jewish. and it also differed according to who was ruling at the time. Sometimes the cubit was the length of the arm of the ruler ... so as soon as a new ruler came to power, the cubit length changed. So, yet, we decided to use the 0.53 meter cubit which seemed to be most used in the 5th century.
دان جبسون أنت ترد على المسلمين غير المتخصصين وتتجاهل رد الدكتور أحمد أمين الذي كتب بالفرنسية وأثبت أنك مخطئ بل وتلاعبت بالبيانات. حتى الملحدين العرب ردوا عليك بالأدلة وقالوا كلامك هراء. ترجم كلامي باستعمال جوجل بما أنك لا تعرف العربية.
arabic to english. Dan Gibson, you respond to non-specialist Muslims and ignore the response of Dr. Ahmed Amin, who wrote in French and proved that you were wrong and even manipulated the data. Even the Arab atheists responded to you with evidence and said your words are nonsense. Translate my words using Google since you do not know Arabic.
@@NadeemKhan-dp6bqyou and your scholar are trying to invite a 21st century narrative, izlame is a fabrication that is being exposed for being exactly that!Jesus Christ is God our Lord and Savior 🙏 ✝️ 🕊
I'm muslim and have bought both of his books. The information is solid and unfortunately I have to disagree with this fellow here. The responses I've read over time from islamic scholars have been emotional, biased, and unintelligent. The truth is, is that Dan's findings don't hurt Islam one bit. They are very useful and I am thankful for this information.
الحمد لله رب العالمين والسلام عليكم يبدوا بأنه لا مفر ، يبدوا أنه لن يوجد خيار لديك يا دان إلا وأن تقرأ كتب الحديث الستة . وجب أن تقرأ معهم كتب التاريخ مثل ابن كثير والطبري والواقدي وغيرهم . لا أدري إن كنت قد قرأت بتمعن سيرة ابن هشام كاملة . على كل حال ، لقد شاهدت معظم الحلقات على قناتك و كل التقدير لهذا المجهود الكبير الذي احتاج منك ليس الوقت وحسب ، بل احتاج منك شجاعة . وجب التركيز مرة أخرى على بيت أقدس الأقداس بمكانه وبزواياه الأربعة . هناك شيئ أحب أن أشاركك به . إياك أن تنافق وتغطي الحقائق لتكسب رضا اليهود والنصارى ومعهم المسلمين فأنت باحث . أعود وأقول وجب قرائة كتب التاريخ الإسلامي كلها مع كتب الحديث . أنت تعمل كمحقق شرطة ولكن كل الشهود موتى . في النهاية ، تحية لك مع تقدير لجهودك .
The problem with muslims is..they them selves have not read there own books.. most of the muslims have been reading quran all their life but still dont understand.. 🙄.. but fast to ask others to read quran and the hadiths etc... Muslims fail to understand the children start reading, understanding and writing essays in different languages by 5th standard..
Get up.. brother..before its too late.. You are blinded by your blind forefathers and father.. dont do the same to you own children.. dont blind them.. The truth is out facts are right infront for the world to see.. What you believe is all a big scam.. You are psychologically subverted. By the ones who wrote your books.. Mecca is a setup.. and what you believe is all made up..
لو أنك تابعت دان وما يقول لعلمت أنه قد قرأ كل ما ذكرت، وهو لم يأت بهذا بمجرد الظن. بحثه الشخصي عميق جدا ويعتمد على التحقيق بمجالات عدة منها التاريخ والجغرافيا وغيرها. هو صادق بعرض ما توصل إليه بدون غايات، وكفاكم ذكرا لجملة "اليهود والنصارى " وتردادها كالببغاوات دون فهم. الإسلام ما هو إلا مسيحية مشرقية، بطبقات من التغطية السياسية العباسية أولا، ثم من باقي الدول والإمارات إلى يومنا هذا.
- не хвалим се ја овим нити сам писао а ниси ни ти - то је оно што они тако тврде Al-Qibla Verse (Arabic: آیَة القِبلَة) is the verse number 144 of Qur'an 2 (Sura al-Baqara) in the Qur'an which commands Muslims to change their Qibla from Jerusalem to Masjid al-Haram. After the migration of Muslims to Medina, Jewish residents of the city took the direction of Muslims towards Jerusalem to be evidence that Islam was not an authentic religion. This led the Prophet Muhammad (s) to wish that the Ka'ba were the Qibla for Muslims. - али ето ти нашао и старије џамије у правцу _ онда не хвалиш се ваљда овуда да је "Мухамед био обрезан осми дан" - то се они сами хвале на сва уста - али ко га је могао обрезати у Меки када ће доћи заповијест много касније о томе - они се хвале да је тако - али када питаш како је то могуће без да си близу жидова или жидов сам - то си поставио погрешно питање _ ма право да ти кажем - ја не пишем никакве вјере и није ме брига - шта ја имам са тим ко шта овуда пише - нека пише што још хоће но је проблем када такви који пишу то све што хоће и нахватају оних глупих који вјерују у то - то нека си виде сами _ Библија читава књига аналогија стварања, историје људи, вјере и све тачно //мање више о томе неко некада владао у израелу //то је остављено више као да се учи како владати а како не //него што има значај у вјери - значи обавеза ти да читаш што је Бог говорио а не што су људи радили _ то смисла нема у вјери - гле Куран - ухватим ја вашу Кели Мегјен и ма што да тамо буде ми се растанемо побијемо сексамо и она причала на неком мјесту са неким мушкарцем ///бог вама прича како је то добра жена и ништа се десило није //али то нема везе да мегјен извриши и самоубиство али без мене //не мора од мене //од мене нека је вјерница иначе ће завршити у паклу и неће јој нити мало бити лијепо - што год да мегјен уради то у вјери нема никакве везе - нити ће бог што о томе рећи да је важно вама - али тамо у курану то је јако важно зашто то рецитирати _ ја мислим да су била два мухамеда - један који је био фер и поштен ко ће знати што би имао рећи - и овај којег су намјестили курејши који су хтејли владати //и тада настају сви проблеми са тим _ студирати двије особности у курану - теврат и инџил читај а мало даље побити кршћане и жидове - и све тако о томе о двије особности _ мегјен мени нећеш дробити по кући - пуно си примитивна - сва ти прича локална прича као да се живот нигдје више не дешава осим код вас
Sura 2:144 does not mention Jerusalem. It mentions turning ones face from heaven to Mashid al-Haram. The Jerusalem interpretation doesn't show up until two centuries later when Bukhari alludes to it... but Bukhari mostly says it was to the north, rather than mentioning the city by name.
You've done a great work. But what I really admire is your personality. Your reaction on rejection and criticism is always friendly, even to aggressive critics. May God protect you and bless you!
Since the data is solid, Muslims must find a way to interpret the qibla data. I can imagine how confuse they are
*Dan I love your videos; they are amazingly informative; thank you very much. I have one very special and important question for you? Do you really like these blue shirts that much?* 🙄
A big chunk of Islamic history is not taught to us and a lot is altered in favor one's or other's interpretation of Islam.
Have a great day sir
You are such a great data analyst and researcher of the time. you strengthen our holy Muslim spirit. This is how Allah shows his signs and want us to find the actual story of Ibrahim or Abraham or a Hindu Brahmin.
I've followed your historical revelations for years and am quite convinced you are correct. Provable accuracy like this is so necessary to inform and correct the traditional story passed down to us. In Christian studies, Dr. James Tabor is doing similar work. You should collaborate your information on the Abrahamic Era and original Islam as an attempt to return to it.
Interpretations vary, but the DATA don’t lie.
As a muslim I started taking Islam more seriously and learning about it after following your work , it definitely make much sense now. Many Thanks and keep telling the truth.
Those reactions are typical of those suffering from cognitive dissonance. The information you're presenting strikes at the very foundation of their belief systems, so they lash out at the person presenting the information. Ad hominem is their usual reaction, because they are unable to refute the facts. Since the facts upset their beliefs, they go into a survival mode and ignore anything that upsets those beliefs.
As the saying goes "It's easier to fool someone than to convince them that they were fooled."
Excellent interview
i have a small question, do you say that Qibla is slightly diverted or it’s completely in the wrong direction?
I've always thought it was more logical that Khyber was raided on the way back from 'Mecca' i.e. Petra ( after the truce of Hudaibia) rather than returning to Medina and then setting out 150 miles north once reaching Medina.
where Hudaibia located?
As a layman. On this issue Sura 2 seems to be internally inconsistent in the first place. All sides need to look again at that Ethiopian loan words issue as not clear cut in King's or what is articulated by Jay favour or against.
Can u please translat the video in to Amharic(Ethiopia language ) thank u
jesus help you .dear sir i from pakistan .
…& our Lord protect you in Pakistan, dear brother 🙏
Jesus kiun? Allah helped him kiun nahi?
@@NadeemKhan-dp6bq …Yeshua is the Way, the Truth & the Life ♻️
Is there any other way possible for mankind salvation to the Planner Almighty ?
@@NadeemKhan-dp6bq …no, because he is THE way 🗝️
There is another video in this series at: ruclips.net/video/MAirvq_BaHY/видео.html
For some reason it doesn't seem to show up in the playlist. Perhaps because I am only linked to it.
Thankyou for your work !!!!! this is so interesting.
I suspect some people go back and re-read a Koran translation of Sura 2 again then start to wonder.
Please include two of the recently discovered mosques in Israel in your working as well. One is located in Negev desert and the other is with sea of Galilee.
I am not sure which mosques you are referring to. The Rahat mosque and the Tibereous mosque are covered in the website. nabataea.net/explore/cities_and_sites/rahat-mosque/ and nabataea.net/explore/cities_and_sites/tiberias-umayyad-mosque/, New mosques are being uncovered all the time... but it is best to wait until the archaeological reports come out... but I do address some earlier if the media makes a big deal about them, usually with wrong or exaggerated claims.
keep up the good work lads
The reason you face backlash is simple they are not Muslims (Sunni,Shia, etc.) the Quran specifically calls what they do as idol worship! That’s why it makes no sense to them…Understand the Quran for yourself. Quran 39:45 Beautiful research
Allah is dead, he is lying down at Medina.
Your mind is dead and lying in the database
A theological theory, the satan "asks" a price for his help(in the story of the prophet Bileam things didn't go exactly one way), yhwh having Canaan assigned to him instead of baäl has therefore no presents outside of Canaan.(the glory of god, glory meaning a reflection of light so not the light itself)
Jabal al-Lawz is a very much better fit for Mount Sinai then the other proposals for example and so forth.
Or it's just a kind of sympathetic magic variant thing.
You haven’t mentioned the most important point..if prophet Mohammed was from Mecca in Saudi Arabia it would mean he is initially Yemeni. We all know he is not from Yemen which stretched to Madeena. His mother was from Madeena Hens he is half Yemeni half Shami which makes a lot of sense 😊
Your measurements of the Petra Kaaba have change over the years:
1st: 14.63 m x 10.6 m x 14.17 m x 9.1 m … (on your website Nabataea)
2nd: 17.6 m x 11 m x 17.05 m x 12.1 m … (on your website Nabataea)
3rd: 16.4 m x 10.2 m x 17 m x 11.9 m … (in your last book ‘’Let the stone speak’’p.120”)
What happen to your measuring tape???
There are two things to measure in Petra... one is the altar itself, and one is the Altar with the stairway leading up to it. Azraqi's measurements include the stairs leading up to it. Hence a larger measurement. The second problem with measuring the altar, is that it is so worn down, the corner where the stones used to be is smashed way, and so deciding on exact measurements is difficult. Please look at images or drawing of the altar. It is, however, very close to Azraqi's measurements.
On your website you wrote:
On Page 27 Azraqī tells us that it was made of rough stone laid dry. And the dimensions of the sides are listed as: north-east: 32 cubits, north-west: 22 cubits, south-west: 31 cubits, south-east: 20 cubits. So the proportions were roughly 3:2. We can calculate a cubit as 0.4572 meters, if we do that, then the dimensions would have been: 14.63 meters x 10.6 meters x 14 meters and by 9 meters and so forth.
In your book ‘’Let the stones speak” p.119:
Crucially, al-Azraqī recorded the dimensions of the pre-Islamic Ka’ba. He documented the sides of the Ka’ba as: north-east, 32 cubits; north-west, 22 cubits; south-west, 31 cubits; and south-east, 20 cubits. The proportions of this early Ka’ba were roughly 3:2. If we calculate a cubit as 0.53 meters, then the dimensions would have been 17 meters x 11.6 meters x 16.4 meters x 10.6 meters.
So the cubit has change?
cubit as 0.4572 meters … now cubit as 0.53 meters??
We did a study of the various cubits used in ancient times... the Egyptian cubit differed from the Babylonian, from the Jewish. and it also differed according to who was ruling at the time. Sometimes the cubit was the length of the arm of the ruler ... so as soon as a new ruler came to power, the cubit length changed. So, yet, we decided to use the 0.53 meter cubit which seemed to be most used in the 5th century.
Interesting , love your work !
دان جبسون أنت ترد على المسلمين غير المتخصصين وتتجاهل رد الدكتور أحمد أمين الذي كتب بالفرنسية وأثبت أنك مخطئ بل وتلاعبت بالبيانات. حتى الملحدين العرب ردوا عليك بالأدلة وقالوا كلامك هراء. ترجم كلامي باستعمال جوجل بما أنك لا تعرف العربية.
Provide a clear reference, please.
arabic to english.
Dan Gibson, you respond to non-specialist Muslims and ignore the response of Dr. Ahmed Amin, who wrote in French and proved that you were wrong and even manipulated the data. Even the Arab atheists responded to you with evidence and said your words are nonsense. Translate my words using Google since you do not know Arabic.
@@NadeemKhan-dp6bqyou and your scholar are trying to invite a 21st century narrative, izlame is a fabrication that is being exposed for being exactly that!Jesus Christ is God our Lord and Savior 🙏 ✝️ 🕊
Be happy and stay blessed. You are our elder brother in Ibrahimic faith.
I'm muslim and have bought both of his books. The information is solid and unfortunately I have to disagree with this fellow here. The responses I've read over time from islamic scholars have been emotional, biased, and unintelligent. The truth is, is that Dan's findings don't hurt Islam one bit. They are very useful and I am thankful for this information.
الحمد لله رب العالمين والسلام عليكم
يبدوا بأنه لا مفر ، يبدوا أنه لن يوجد خيار لديك يا دان إلا وأن تقرأ كتب الحديث الستة .
وجب أن تقرأ معهم كتب التاريخ مثل ابن كثير والطبري والواقدي وغيرهم .
لا أدري إن كنت قد قرأت بتمعن سيرة ابن هشام كاملة .
على كل حال ، لقد شاهدت معظم الحلقات على قناتك و كل التقدير لهذا المجهود الكبير الذي احتاج منك ليس الوقت وحسب ، بل احتاج منك شجاعة .
وجب التركيز مرة أخرى على بيت أقدس الأقداس بمكانه وبزواياه الأربعة .
هناك شيئ أحب أن أشاركك به .
إياك أن تنافق وتغطي الحقائق لتكسب رضا اليهود والنصارى ومعهم المسلمين فأنت باحث .
أعود وأقول وجب قرائة كتب التاريخ الإسلامي كلها مع كتب الحديث .
أنت تعمل كمحقق شرطة ولكن كل الشهود موتى .
في النهاية ، تحية لك مع تقدير لجهودك .
Please understand that Dan has read all that you suggest. In fact he has understood that material better than you.
The problem with muslims is..they them selves have not read there own books.. most of the muslims have been reading quran all their life but still dont understand.. 🙄.. but fast to ask others to read quran and the hadiths etc... Muslims fail to understand the children start reading, understanding and writing essays in different languages by 5th standard..
Get up.. brother..before its too late..
You are blinded by your blind forefathers and father.. dont do the same to you own children.. dont blind them..
The truth is out facts are right infront for the world to see..
What you believe is all a big scam..
You are psychologically subverted. By the ones who wrote your books..
Mecca is a setup.. and what you believe is all made up..
لو أنك تابعت دان وما يقول لعلمت أنه قد قرأ كل ما ذكرت، وهو لم يأت بهذا بمجرد الظن.
بحثه الشخصي عميق جدا ويعتمد على التحقيق بمجالات عدة منها التاريخ والجغرافيا وغيرها.
هو صادق بعرض ما توصل إليه بدون غايات، وكفاكم ذكرا لجملة "اليهود والنصارى " وتردادها كالببغاوات دون فهم.
الإسلام ما هو إلا مسيحية مشرقية، بطبقات من التغطية السياسية العباسية أولا، ثم من باقي الدول والإمارات إلى يومنا هذا.
- не хвалим се ја овим нити сам писао а ниси ни ти
- то је оно што они тако тврде
Al-Qibla Verse (Arabic: آیَة القِبلَة) is the verse number 144 of Qur'an 2 (Sura al-Baqara) in the Qur'an which commands Muslims to change their Qibla from Jerusalem to Masjid al-Haram. After the migration of Muslims to Medina, Jewish residents of the city took the direction of Muslims towards Jerusalem to be evidence that Islam was not an authentic religion. This led the Prophet Muhammad (s) to wish that the Ka'ba were the Qibla for Muslims.
- али ето ти нашао и старије џамије у правцу
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онда не хвалиш се ваљда овуда да је "Мухамед био обрезан осми дан"
- то се они сами хвале на сва уста
- али ко га је могао обрезати у Меки када ће доћи заповијест много касније о томе
- они се хвале да је тако
- али када питаш како је то могуће без да си близу жидова или жидов сам
- то си поставио погрешно питање
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ма право да ти кажем
- ја не пишем никакве вјере и није ме брига
- шта ја имам са тим ко шта овуда пише
- нека пише што још хоће но је проблем када такви који пишу то све што хоће и нахватају оних глупих који вјерују у то
- то нека си виде сами
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Библија читава књига аналогија стварања, историје људи, вјере и све тачно
//мање више о томе неко некада владао у израелу
//то је остављено више као да се учи како владати а како не
//него што има значај у вјери
- значи обавеза ти да читаш што је Бог говорио а не што су људи радили
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то смисла нема у вјери
- гле Куран
- ухватим ја вашу Кели Мегјен и ма што да тамо буде ми се растанемо побијемо сексамо и она причала на неком мјесту са неким мушкарцем
///бог вама прича како је то добра жена и ништа се десило није
//али то нема везе да мегјен извриши и самоубиство али без мене
//не мора од мене
//од мене нека је вјерница иначе ће завршити у паклу и неће јој нити мало бити лијепо
- што год да мегјен уради то у вјери нема никакве везе
- нити ће бог што о томе рећи да је важно вама
- али тамо у курану то је јако важно
зашто то рецитирати
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ја мислим да су била два мухамеда
- један који је био фер и поштен ко ће знати што би имао рећи
- и овај којег су намјестили курејши који су хтејли владати
//и тада настају сви проблеми са тим
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студирати двије особности у курану
- теврат и инџил читај а мало даље побити кршћане и жидове
- и све тако о томе о двије особности
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мегјен мени нећеш дробити по кући
- пуно си примитивна
- сва ти прича локална прича као да се живот нигдје више не дешава осим код вас
Sura 2:144 does not mention Jerusalem. It mentions turning ones face from heaven to Mashid al-Haram. The Jerusalem interpretation doesn't show up until two centuries later when Bukhari alludes to it... but Bukhari mostly says it was to the north, rather than mentioning the city by name.