Psychonauts 2 and Dissociative Identity Disorder: Ford Cruller
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- Опубликовано: 29 дек 2022
- This video will analyze the psychological aspects of dissociative identity disorder as they appear in Agent Ford Cruller's levels in Psychonauts 2. Doublefine have crafted a character and three levels that are loaded with depth, metaphors and symbolism for understanding identity, anxiety, and consciousness. Join me as I explore it to a pretty nauseating degree!
If you liked this analysis... get help. But maybe also consider sticking around for more deep dives. High chance I cover more of these wonderfully designed levels!
Credits:
Includes footage from Psychonauts, Psychonauts 2, and Psychonauts by Double Fine Productions.
More Credits and my sources used:
(To Be Posted Soon!)
Psychonauts 2 was written by Tim Schafer, and co-directed by Tim Schafer and Zak McClendon. Psychonauts 2 OST by Peter McConnell.
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Which level do you think is the best? Maybe I've already covered it!
If not strictly in the second game, then definitely the milkman conspiracy.
@@esek308 I like where your head is at, no pun intended
Cassie's world most definitely, though I related to Ford Cruller. And at the same time I find Psi King's world to also be a favorite, in fact, I have multiple favorites here.
The last world, and I won't say for spoilers sake, is the most compelling for sure; I'm all for and appreciate humanizing the antagonists, that falls within my principles.
Sure yeah, people can do evil things but are we any better by demonizing the one who done the wrong acts by striping them of any sort of forgiveness or means to promote growth from prior mistakes they committed? Other's may be pro-retributive justice but I am pro-restorative justice.
The moon also represents hydrokinesis, as the moon's gravity literally moves the oceans and causes tides.
I think Cassiopeia's idea of archetypes can help to explain how ford's and maybe even real people's DID works, as the multiple personalities could just be archetypes with control of the main body
Definitely onto something with this comment- Carl Jung would strongly agree my friend!
@@misterdonlon Hey, you should do a Video on Cassie, So we can See what deep Meaning SHE has In Her Mind
Only a matter of time I think!
hm.. unlikely. DID is stemmed through traumatic events, not intentionally splitting aspects of yourself into a faux representation of yourself. Treat an archetype like a mask instead of a separate identity.
No, DID parts are much more developed and autonomous than Cassie's parts. Cassie more so represents parts like in internal family systems therapy that anyone can have. DID parts are a lot more than a caricature with one basic trait.
As someone diagnosed with DID the only problem I have with this game's depiction is ford's parts are just caricatures with one trait and nothing more. DID usually involves parts that are a lot more complex and developed than that. A lot of people think DID is just, angry alter, happy alter, trauma alter, ect.
But one alter can be all of those just like any human cuz of how much dissociated content is in them that needs to stay repressed just to function in daily life.
I was diagnosed recently, and from what I know you seem to be spot on. Besides that, there’s a lot I don’t know about it, so do you have any advice on how to better live with it?
I think Cassiopeia's mind fits how these things actually function as someone with it as well. Though it looks like Cassiopeia might best be described as showcasing symptoms of OSDD-1a specifically.
For Ford's specific case, with the in game reasoning I can kind of shrug it a little, but it simply doesn't feel like a good fit for the issue comparatively, at least to myself. Though, perhaps in regards that Cassiopeia seems to be aware of her condition, and whilst Ford was aware when grounded near the Psitanium, his might've simply been how it functioned more when not diagnosed? It's hard for me to remember that timeframe specifically for us.
I believe it was actually Truman who offered Agent Forescythe the job at the psychonauts, not Ford Cruller. Nonetheless, good video
One of those instances where I wrote and recorded like 90% of the video and at the 11th hour realized this lol it was Truman. Ford is literally only in the pamphlet. But I'm glad you liked the video all the same!
I can say that DID is real. My last girlfriend had more than one person in her head. They were all her but they also weren't all her. She had pretty severe PTSD from her service in the military. She used to forget where she was and who I was sometimes. She'd wake in the middle of the night and she could only speak French or Russian. That was OK. I could deal with that. But when she would drink that's when the real monster came out. In the end, I have to cut her out of my life.
Sounds like she had dissociative fugue as well. Scary stuff man, I hope she got help!
1:40 I didn't view it as problematic. I viewed it as a way to save on character design time by making one character fill several edge case roles in the game.
A very good point!
@@misterdonlonalso, Raz has Just started on his path to become a psychonaut, he doesn't know the finer details.
Remember, we *are* seeing the world through his eyes.
Love how when he first mentions emotions, the Man Himself shows up.
**Mmmmm Bacon
I'm mirroring just about the same things as everyone else is commenting. Love the analysis, the care and the empathy you put into these videos.
Very noble degree my friend. You'll be onto bigger and better things than a lonely psychology teacher before you know it! Any field in specific you're most interested in pursuing?
Ah this is great, these games have always been super interesting. I love listening to people dissect them.
Thanks for listening to me ramble my friend! More to come!
Watching this video sent chills down my spine as it described details about me that hit me too close to home on many occasions
With that, it really goes to show you’ve done a marvelous job on these videos!
Thanks to you too, as these videos not only help me understand others and now myself with this video, but helped my very close friend too
WhiteBladeFox, she has been struggling with alcoholism for effectively her entire life and a very early age unfortunately, and your video on Bob’s bottles really helped her realize more things about herself or what she is feeling, and I thank you for that
I hope one day she’ll be able to get the proper help she needs, until that time, I’ve been helping her through it the majority of time
Thank you for creating these magnificent videos, and helping to spread mental health awareness to everyone!
Growth, understanding, and empathy- those are the pillars! This is such a heartfelt comment though, I appreciate it more than I can say with words! Making these videos has been one of the many joys of my teaching career. Thank you for sticking with me after all this time! The knowledge and care you've put in for you friend will never go unnoticed.
I'm a psychologist. I have ever treated one person with DID. This was physically a young man that had experienced a lot of trauma early in life and had had a lot fear for his own physical integrity.
To a degree this explained their fragmented sense of identity.
Their "system" consisted of 3 "thems". The one that carried his original name and sense of identity which was somewhat distrustful and sarcastic; a young naive and trusting boy and an artistically inclined nonbinary/asexual self.
I wanted to refer them to someone experienced in DID as I honestly communicated my inexperience on the topic but they were scared of losing their sense of "community self" (if they went to DID specialised therapist).
I can honestly say that was my most interesting case, I learnt a lot from them. About which of them talked on what topics and dealt with what issues. About how they protected eachother from their insecurities and fears.
About how they dealt with their trauma and the fragmented sense of self.
Ultimately they dealt with the primary stuff that they wished to deal with in therapy and could function in a way they were happy with and we decided to stop therapy there.
Could it be that they faked it for attention? Perhaps. Though I honestly don't entirely believe that. I believe they believe they are multiple selves, and having experienced all of them and feeling that distinction made me sense this was a real thing for them I treated it a such (not wanting to do more harm than good).
But I can't prove it is a real thing, I wouldn't even know how to test that to a satisfactory degree.
My MAN! The kind of comment I hoped to get! Talk about a challenging, but fascinating, and hopefully rewarding case. Knowing how well you approached this patient, above all else I hope they are in a better place with their anxiety after your care. It must have been difficult to see this person so torn apart by their traumas, and for you; I can imagine playing through Ford's levels probably brought back a lot of what these sessions were like.
And you are living proof of why so many Psychologists hesitate to even use the label of Dissociative Identity. I must admit, I would probably have my doubts as well. But in the end, the most important thing is that regardless of whether they truly had a personality disorder, DID, or PTSD; you worked with them and I'm sure it made a positive difference in their life.
always love your analysis videos on this game. getting to see all the detail work that went into the depiction of mental health from Double Fine is incredible. and even better since you help us actually see all those details
Appreciate it my guy! Diving deep into these levels has given me the chance to really take in all of these details, and I've enjoyed analyzing what I've found. Thanks for returning!
I feel like Ford's different personalities are the result of him shattering his own mind in the Astrolathe with the fragments of Ford's mind attempting to become whole again by latching on to things around Ford to form these shallow one note personalities.
Yeah the astrolathe does throw a slight wrench into all this. I chose to keep it out of this analysis, but maybe I'll talk about it in the next one. Good point!
@@misterdonlon Yeah I mean ultimately my idea is that subconsciously Ford's mental fragments are trying to become whole again by latching on to things around him creating these different identities in an attempt to stabilize Ford's mind, so Ford's different personalities aren't necessarily because of Ford's connection to the occupation the personality adopts but because otherwise there would be nothing.
Stopping by to leave some love while I work on the Mail Room level script. Good work dude!
Thanks my friend! Great minds think alike! I've always appreciate your analysis and lessons man, I'll watch one of your videos after mine or vice versa and think: "Ooo interesting, he went in that direction, I like it!" You've garnered quite the impressive exploration of Psychonauts over the years, hope you didn't mind me joining the party!
so happy right now
this video saved my life
Dissociative Identity Disorder is complicated and controversial. You make a solid psychological case. I'll watch it again
It bothered me at first when Ford says "I was young, I made a terrible mistake." Because well... he's 75 years old at the time of Psychonauts 2, and the events he's referencing took place only twenty years ago, so he was well into his fifties at the time. Not really "young" anymore to warrant that sort of reckless mistake, even if you spent a couple of decades experimenting with "pretty far-out stuff" beforehand.
Though now... eh. Almost a little satisfying, knowing you can still make a fine mess of things, even when you should be old enough to know better. Might be a good lesson in there. You are never too old to make mistakes, nor to fix them.
I'm glad you liked the message too!
I always loved ford’s character as someone living with DID.
Not me quoting cutscenes from the first game as they aired... especially the introduction cutscene after just seeing like 5 seconds of it. I think I might need help I've played the first game too much.
merry christmas mr. donlon 😮
The plug for your nostalgia video was an amazing edit
And not a single undead monkey was harmed in the rendering of that clip
@@misterdonlon its fine, undead are always heresy and therefore acceptable to purge regardless of what kind of undead it is.
I recommend Sasha Nein.
wait im looking at a video of all of them put together and starting with a boat I think shows his desire to keep raz safe.
I recommend Milla Vodello.
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Pretty sure encyclonox, one. They explicitly say Ford's mind was shattered. After I'll fight with someone they don't name that person. They don't really talk about the event that much.
I like you. Subscribed.
*Blushing*
When are you gonna do more "Psychonauts" videos?
Might be a little bit! But I have some stuff cooking in the mix don't worry- the break is over soon!
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i have osdd/did (not entirely sure which at the moment), but i do like how you spoke about this and we all appreciated it. elenore did especially and sometimes she'll sit in and watch videos with me, and it's hard to find something she really enjoys. we both liked how you treated this too, you took it seriously and pointed out a few of its shortcomings (namely, ford's osdd being played as a joke in the beginning of the game).
ellie and i are big fans of psychonauts and angel has a passing interest, but im sure angel will enjoy watching this video later. if he does, i'll ask him to leave a comment to see how he felt on it too :)