I like the whiteboard animation, something different and fun. Also good to see how dry is too dry. I've been inoculating when they're too fresh, usually a day or two after cutting the tree (it's not ideal but I've done it in the summer because that's the only time my free labor is available). Thanks for the info :D
You're certainly fine inoculating when they're fresh! We suggest waiting two weeks just because the mycelium will not start to run until the logs have dried a little bit and that leaves two weeks for something to potentially happen to the inoculation site (insects, woodpeckers, etc). But the logs will start colonizing as soon as the log dries a bit!
What timely info !! I have been searching for this exact info for two days and i got to get my plugs in soon. I have two Black Walnut logs, about 6 inch diameter and 3 feet long that I think we cut 2 years ago, although they were half buried in a shady cool back yard garden of peat and under a porch, here in Canada.. I'll check them for cracks tomorrow. I heard they have to be cut during their dormant winter phase though ? This was a wind damaged branch that was hanging with leaves still on it.
What if i inoculate in the early spring and temp go below 40 degrees is that going to kill the spawn? Here the trees just drop the leafs but really soon winter will begin....if i inoculate and the temp drop below 40 in few days?
My Oak tree fell due to a storm 2 months ago. I just cut my logs from the fallen tree 2 months after it fell. Can I still grow mushrooms on these logs I just cut?
Ash is marginal for both shiitake and oysters in the best of circumstances, so we would recommend against it. The one exception would be golden oyster if you can salvage some healthy looking limbs. Otherwise if you can chip the wood you could use it for a wine cap bed.
Everywhere seems to say to inoculate with in the first 6 weeks of the logs being cut so as other stuff does not get in the log and compete with the Mushrooms.
True if you're doing a spring-time cut or in the south. However if you're doing a late fall/winter cut that doesn't apply as the rate of decay slows/stops in the fall/winter.
Is it possible to inoculate in the fall then leave over the winter? Or will that kill the mycelium? If it is possible, will that lead to an earlier in the season yield?
You can certainly inoculate logs in the fall! Early-dormancy cut wood is ideal for mushroom production but you do need to walk the fine line of cutting the logs late enough for the trees to be dormant, but early enough that the mycelium has at least 4 weeks of temperatures above 40 degrees to establish itself. It will lead to an earlier yield assuming seasons cooperate!
hey. thanks for nice video. we have numbers of logs but already dried out. Is it possible to inoculate them after soaking these logs for 1-2 days in water?
Likely yes, but it depends on how deeply cracked they are. There is a point-of-no-return when the actual structure of the wood cells have changed, but that occurs when the cracking is quite severe.
Logs need to be fresh cut from a living tree. You can inoculate in Fall with Fall-cut wood, but if you have spring cut wood you would want to inoculate those earlier than the fall.
It’s going to be 2 weeks this Friday when I cut my logs. Do I need to soak them in water for 24 hrs before I inaculate them, just spray water on them or I don’t need to do anything before I start?
Thanks for all the Info! But you didn't answer your own questions, like when it's too late to inoculate. What's the time limit to inoculate a tree log? If you know the answer thz. This video simply talks about the drying process of wood, not the time limits for inoculation.
The time limit is so dependent on conditions that you can't give an exact time. For example, in Wisconsin given perfect conditions you can inoculate a log that was cut 6 months ago, but only if you store the logs well and have an average winter. In somewhere like southern California, you have probably at most 2 months. So you need to understand the drying process of the log so you can judge for your specific geographic location based on when you cut the log and how you store it. Sorry that there isn't an exact answer!
@@FieldandForestProducts You didn't understand the problem, i'm not talking about the drying process ... which is a completelly different thing from log degradation. Of course it doesn't matter how dry it is, you can always water the log and use it, so drying doesn't affect inoculation, except for the first 2 weeks for optimal use. A log cannot be inoculated anymore when it already has fungi or bacteria inside that are decomposing it, it's already populated .. So my question is, when a log gets populated by wild fungi and isn't usable anymore? How do i recognise when it's too late for inoculation? The stage of dehydratation doesn't prevent the user to do properly inoculate the logs, as you shown in the video. So there is a mistake, this video doesn't talk about the time limit for logs to be used, but it talks about proper storing and usage of logs for optimal inoculation. Thanks.
@@alessandromariani3015 I would check out this blog: www.fieldforest.net/product/523/BLOG It covers more about the Fiber saturation point as well as competing fungi.
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I like the whiteboard animation, something different and fun. Also good to see how dry is too dry. I've been inoculating when they're too fresh, usually a day or two after cutting the tree (it's not ideal but I've done it in the summer because that's the only time my free labor is available). Thanks for the info :D
You're certainly fine inoculating when they're fresh! We suggest waiting two weeks just because the mycelium will not start to run until the logs have dried a little bit and that leaves two weeks for something to potentially happen to the inoculation site (insects, woodpeckers, etc). But the logs will start colonizing as soon as the log dries a bit!
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I LOVE THE WAY YOU DID THIS VIDEO! The dry erase board and photos were perfect!
Now this is a video I love seriously the way you presented this was absolutely great!
What timely info !! I have been searching for this exact info for two days and i got to get my plugs in soon. I have two Black Walnut logs, about 6 inch diameter and 3 feet long that I think we cut 2 years ago, although they were half buried in a shady cool back yard garden of peat and under a porch, here in Canada.. I'll check them for cracks tomorrow. I heard they have to be cut during their dormant winter phase though ? This was a wind damaged branch that was hanging with leaves still on it.
What if i inoculate in the early spring and temp go below 40 degrees is that going to kill the spawn? Here the trees just drop the leafs but really soon winter will begin....if i inoculate and the temp drop below 40 in few days?
Thank u I just wanted to know how long I needed to keep the logs in water so 2 to3 feet
If the logs cracked and became too dry, can I soak or cook the log?
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Really have not had a problem that I know of to cut, wait a week and innoculate. As long as the tree is dead the saprophyte should like it.
thank you!
My Oak tree fell due to a storm 2 months ago. I just cut my logs from the fallen tree 2 months after it fell. Can I still grow mushrooms on these logs I just cut?
Have a lot of Ash trees dying off here in Pa can I use them for shitake or oyster?
Ash is marginal for both shiitake and oysters in the best of circumstances, so we would recommend against it. The one exception would be golden oyster if you can salvage some healthy looking limbs. Otherwise if you can chip the wood you could use it for a wine cap bed.
What kinds of trees should us in the tropics use.. ??
Everywhere seems to say to inoculate with in the first 6 weeks of the logs being cut so as other stuff does not get in the log and compete with the Mushrooms.
True if you're doing a spring-time cut or in the south. However if you're doing a late fall/winter cut that doesn't apply as the rate of decay slows/stops in the fall/winter.
Great video, you made it easy to understand. I must admit, you have pretty hands (whiteboard)
Is it possible to inoculate in the fall then leave over the winter? Or will that kill the mycelium? If it is possible, will that lead to an earlier in the season yield?
You can certainly inoculate logs in the fall! Early-dormancy cut wood is ideal for mushroom production but you do need to walk the fine line of cutting the logs late enough for the trees to be dormant, but early enough that the mycelium has at least 4 weeks of temperatures above 40 degrees to establish itself. It will lead to an earlier yield assuming seasons cooperate!
hey. thanks for nice video. we have numbers of logs but already dried out. Is it possible to inoculate them after soaking these logs for 1-2 days in water?
Likely yes, but it depends on how deeply cracked they are. There is a point-of-no-return when the actual structure of the wood cells have changed, but that occurs when the cracking is quite severe.
@@FieldandForestProducts thanks for reply :)
Can you us old logs? Can you inoculate in Fall?
Logs need to be fresh cut from a living tree. You can inoculate in Fall with Fall-cut wood, but if you have spring cut wood you would want to inoculate those earlier than the fall.
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It’s going to be 2 weeks this Friday when I cut my logs. Do I need to soak them in water for 24 hrs before I inaculate them, just spray water on them or I don’t need to do anything before I start?
You don't need to do anything! Just inoculate and place them in a shady area.
@@FieldandForestProducts ok thanks:)
@@FieldandForestProducts do you grow any mushrooms in mulch?if so which kind?
Wine Cap Stropharia is one of the few that will grow in wood mulch@@Inrussian
@@FieldandForestProducts have you tried growing any other mushrooms in logs besides shiitake that you liked that you would recommend?
Thanks for all the Info! But you didn't answer your own questions, like when it's too late to inoculate.
What's the time limit to inoculate a tree log? If you know the answer thz.
This video simply talks about the drying process of wood, not the time limits for inoculation.
The time limit is so dependent on conditions that you can't give an exact time. For example, in Wisconsin given perfect conditions you can inoculate a log that was cut 6 months ago, but only if you store the logs well and have an average winter. In somewhere like southern California, you have probably at most 2 months. So you need to understand the drying process of the log so you can judge for your specific geographic location based on when you cut the log and how you store it. Sorry that there isn't an exact answer!
@@FieldandForestProducts You didn't understand the problem, i'm not talking about the drying process ... which is a completelly different thing from log degradation.
Of course it doesn't matter how dry it is, you can always water the log and use it, so drying doesn't affect inoculation, except for the first 2 weeks for optimal use.
A log cannot be inoculated anymore when it already has fungi or bacteria inside that are decomposing it, it's already populated ..
So my question is, when a log gets populated by wild fungi and isn't usable anymore? How do i recognise when it's too late for inoculation?
The stage of dehydratation doesn't prevent the user to do properly inoculate the logs, as you shown in the video.
So there is a mistake, this video doesn't talk about the time limit for logs to be used, but it talks about proper storing and usage of logs for optimal inoculation.
Thanks.
@@alessandromariani3015 I would check out this blog: www.fieldforest.net/product/523/BLOG
It covers more about the Fiber saturation point as well as competing fungi.
Longest you can wait to inaculate after u cut logs
So You’re killing trees for Mushrooms? That’s pretty Fkd!
Only trees that need to be removed for forestry management purposes and would die/ stunt forest health otherwise.
Wow. Just wow… Take a second to think before you hit the keyboard. Otherwise you could run the risk of coming over as a complete moron. 😂