Pocket carry an additional gun. Why?

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  • @rule413
    @rule413 2 года назад +9

    Plus, you are carrying an extra gun for your team if needed…
    You are killing it out here my man💯

  • @feudist
    @feudist 2 года назад +18

    Great stuff! The option of the untelegraphed pocket draw to a decisive hit is a real force multiplier that should change most channels from "I'm getting paid" to "I need to go away".

  • @pcb8639
    @pcb8639 2 года назад +17

    I pocket carry all the time. In the summer it goes in the cargo shorts pocket, in the winter a vest / jacket pocket. A very versatile and comfortable way to carry. Now if I could find a Ruger LCR22, life would be great. Thanks for the video.

    • @GiorgosC-rp5ms
      @GiorgosC-rp5ms 2 года назад

      i know where u can get one if you are still looking

    • @pcb8639
      @pcb8639 2 года назад

      @@GiorgosC-rp5ms No thanks, since I started looking again, I'm starting to finding a few. Thanks

    • @roflchopter11
      @roflchopter11 2 года назад

      How do you get it to not move around in the cargo pocket or bang you in the knee?

    • @pcb8639
      @pcb8639 2 года назад +1

      @@roflchopter11 I carry in the front pocket so it doesn't move around. I also use a pocket holster.

    • @roflchopter11
      @roflchopter11 2 года назад

      @@pcb8639 aah, that's what you mean by cargo shorts pocket.

  • @cunnelatio
    @cunnelatio 2 года назад +5

    This is why I often carry a pocket seecamp. Neat little gun. No sights, 32acp, tiny, sharp looking, and runs the 32acp hollowpoints I have the most access to (critical defense). It's not on the recommended list but I put two boxes through it without issue

  • @hiskid13
    @hiskid13 2 года назад +18

    I love the security of having a Snubbie in the Jacket Pocket. It's like Linus and his Security Blanket. My little Fidget Revolver.
    And if for some strange reason, someone gets too close, the first shot is my surprise to give. I can always get a new coat...

    • @CtrlAltRetreat
      @CtrlAltRetreat 2 года назад +1

      The fact that shrouded snubbies don't get bound up makes for much less threatening defusal conversations and i naturally used to put by hands in my jacket pockets even before i started carrying

  • @davidp.6871
    @davidp.6871 2 года назад +7

    Vedder makes kydex pocket holsters that are quickly becoming my favorite way to carry in the pocket. Because of the kydex retention snap and "thumb tab" you can stage any gun in your pocket and easily hit sub second draw to first shots from concealment. I carry a p365 this way and I think it's a tactical advantage in your average mugging scenario. Defense is inherently reactive so being able to discretely grip the pistol is a huge advantage for speed. Active self protection always talks about looking for your counter ambush opportunity and this is a golden way to do it.
    You can drop your phone/wallet from weak side pocket to gain a .5 second distraction while you draw, fire and get off the x with your strong side hand. I've gamed this out with friends using airsoft guns and I'm able to come out on top every time they don't expect it. (i.e. the first run when they have an airsoft pistol pointed at me). It's critical to move off the x while you drop your wallet though.
    Not only this but I can shoot a regular p365 with a flat faced trigger out to 40 yds.

  • @arthurjones9644
    @arthurjones9644 2 года назад +11

    Being a Leader with a vision is a less traveled road sometimes. I don’t understand why you don’t have a 100k likes!! I am enjoying each and every video you make and sharing them with my friends! When I can I will get some training with you!! Your concepts and insights on guncraft are exceptional and I agree with most of them! I have carried 2 weapons often as well especially when I am sitting for long periods of time - having other options besides a belt holster would save seconds in a critical situation!
    Bravo Sir and God bless!
    Subbed!

  • @fly1327
    @fly1327 8 месяцев назад +4

    No shit, pulling into a convenience store/gas station a week ago before sunrise, confronted by a young black guy dressed like a hoodlum apparently looking for trouble. He stared me down and started toward me, but stopped cold as I slid my hand into my front pocket, sneered, yelled something and walked away. Convenience store attendant said he had been out there trying to start fights with people getting out of their cars. I don't live in a Constitutional carry state (yet), so my pocket had only my keys and a knife. My LCR22 would have been much preferrable! Keep doing what you're doing.

    • @kbkesq
      @kbkesq 5 месяцев назад

      Get a CCW. Engage in the system!

    • @mkshffr4936
      @mkshffr4936 3 месяца назад

      Similar thing happened to me. Only difference is that I actually had my hand on a Chief's Special. 😇

  • @ArchetypeofMan
    @ArchetypeofMan Год назад +1

    This is a really good idea that I hadn't considered. Normally every "backup gun" thought I've had has centered around A) losing my primary in a scuffle or B) a catastrophic failure/ damage sustained. I really like that you think outside the box and give us new ways to think about things.

  • @joshuabriggs7114
    @joshuabriggs7114 2 года назад +5

    Great video and demonstration! I frequently Cary a G19 appendix with an M&P340 pocket carry for just this reason. Another bonus of two guns is the ability to arm a compatriot co-defender. I'm looking at the LCR 22 given your excellent commentary :)

  • @jfacedoesstuff4455
    @jfacedoesstuff4455 2 года назад +5

    Thanks for explaining and demonstrating this--awesome video. And to anyone considering private lessons with him, my husband and I have trained with him privately a couple times and I would absolutely recommend it!

  • @benwalton6451
    @benwalton6451 2 года назад +4

    Great vid. What company makes the pocket holster for your LCR 22?

  • @Scrap_Goblin
    @Scrap_Goblin 2 года назад +10

    I've always preferred to keep a secondary off hand gun for situations where going for a primary would be too obvious or impossible

  • @10thmtn86
    @10thmtn86 2 года назад +5

    Carrying two small guns is indeed easier than one larger one. In business casual I dual front pocket carry. Also makes for ambidextrous access.

    • @keithkarp
      @keithkarp Год назад +3

      what firearms do you dual front pocket carry?

  • @marcuskennedy3331
    @marcuskennedy3331 2 года назад +4

    Though my style is nothing like yours, I very much appreciate your approach to being an armed civilian.

  • @heeebeeegeeebeee
    @heeebeeegeeebeee 2 года назад +31

    If you repeated this experiment with a 2s par time to prep, I think things would swing wildly in favor of the pocket gun.

    • @DanTheWolfman
      @DanTheWolfman 2 года назад +1

      So do I he was just getting grip not fully comfortably set

    • @vbressner
      @vbressner 2 года назад +1

      Agreed, rather than a subtle prep when it came to the LCR, he was reaching because of the time.

  • @jerryrigger3040
    @jerryrigger3040 Год назад +1

    I've pocket carried an LCP (LCP2 now) for years now. There were a few times that I've casually placed my hand in my pocket. Fortunately never needed more, and no one was the wiser. For me it's either two pistols or a pistol and spare mag. Also handy will be a knife, POM peppers spray, a flash light and a solid gel pen.

  • @gunmonkey6545
    @gunmonkey6545 Год назад +1

    I almost always carry two guns as well. My thinking is that given the situation, one might be a quicker and less conspicuous draw than the other or one might be next to impossible to pull off.

  • @jeffschultz8817
    @jeffschultz8817 2 года назад +7

    Who makes your pocket holster?

  • @marcuskennedy3331
    @marcuskennedy3331 2 года назад +4

    Hope to someday train under you. Keep putting out that good content and putting in the work people doubt can be done well.

  • @rfdsrd
    @rfdsrd 2 года назад +6

    What brand/model pocket holster are you using with the LCR22?

  • @Pouncer_Fox
    @Pouncer_Fox 2 года назад +1

    This is an extremely good video, and pocket carry is a possible solution I have been working on a long time trying to solve as well, for exactly the same reasons you have detailed. So, your insights here are very much appreciated.

  • @ryukok8352
    @ryukok8352 2 года назад +12

    One important thing to note: A few states don't allow concealed carry of multiple guns. I know New Mexico is one of them. Check your local laws!

    • @cbbbbbbbbbbbb
      @cbbbbbbbbbbbb 2 года назад +4

      Wow interesting fact! I wonder what argument was made to justify that law.

    • @CtrlAltRetreat
      @CtrlAltRetreat 2 года назад +4

      @@cbbbbbbbbbbbb
      That had to be a response to a specific instance that was probably a good story. Who would even think of that scenario in a legislative setting?

    • @randosmallfoot2132
      @randosmallfoot2132 Год назад +1

      It’s only illegal if you comply

    • @fmjmanarroyo1342
      @fmjmanarroyo1342 Год назад +1

      Puerto Rico is not a state but its the same there.
      I dont follow that and no one else should.

  • @aaronwilcox6417
    @aaronwilcox6417 Год назад +1

    Excellent work. I want to try this with the LCR22 and an 38spl in this fashion. I see where in your efforts 22lr is really a boost as practice can be had with much better economy. I learn something everytime I tune in.

  • @vlogfriendsutopia
    @vlogfriendsutopia Год назад +1

    This is what I've been saying, and why I've been a huge proponent of pocket carrying in general. Being able to get a full firing grip on a firearm before the draw, while completely concealed from the public eye.

  • @titanscerw
    @titanscerw 2 года назад +2

    Thank you for your work, sir!

  • @everythingdefensivecarry1108
    @everythingdefensivecarry1108 2 года назад

    You get it man. This is what I have been preaching for sometime now. Great video!

  • @TheWhiteboy40
    @TheWhiteboy40 2 года назад +1

    Good knowledge your throwing out brother. I appreciate it,+ love the fact you don't follow the training sheep out there that in my mind have lost the idea of why we train but more to win challenge coins or to come up with the fastest non real stance draw out on the Insta-google-tweet realm. Thank you for just being a true concerned citizen.

  • @artwebb6939
    @artwebb6939 2 года назад +2

    Yep, being able to Stage the draw with a hand in the pocket can speed things up pretty well

  • @saccaed
    @saccaed 2 года назад +3

    Sound reasoning when comparing the staging options between the carry configurations singularly and when carrying both. Appendix carry is great, but is limited by the need for commitment. Reaching for a pocket is far less a sign of a draw than clearing clothes and digging into a waistband.

    • @mkshffr4936
      @mkshffr4936 3 месяца назад

      To quote the sheriff of Rock Ridge..."Pardon me while I whip this out". 😅

  • @kbkesq
    @kbkesq 5 месяцев назад

    I pocket carry 22lr 8 shot snubby every single day. Easy appendix carry. I can shoot it very fast and accurate one handed so I was thinking about carrying two!
    Would love to see you practice drawing both at same time and shooting at same time. Would be wild.

  • @edsweeney6843
    @edsweeney6843 5 месяцев назад

    That is awesome. What pocket hokster are you using for your LCR?

  • @wolfepak
    @wolfepak 2 года назад +3

    What kind of pocket holster?

  • @jamesw713
    @jamesw713 2 года назад +1

    I've been carrying an S&W 642 for years for this reason. I tried pocket carry with my Kahr CM9, but found the magazine would pop out occasionally (I know, get a better holster). The Smith isn't as picky and I'll take five 38s every time over 7, but maybe one 9mm.
    With cargo pants, my Glock 26 Gen 2 in the Alabama Holster for cargo pockets is the best of both worlds. There might be a better 9mm for pocket carry, but I've had this one since it first came out. And, with the gun in my cargo pocket, there is more room for my work knife in my right front pocket.

  • @felipearaujo7815
    @felipearaujo7815 2 года назад

    holly god, I agree so strongly with you! You seem to be someone that learns from real life experience and not tacticool army guys. Amazing channel.

  • @eskimodoot2006
    @eskimodoot2006 2 года назад +3

    Why a LCR 22 vs a 43c? I have been a pocket carry guy since '98 when I 1st got my KelTec P-32 & a 317. Always been a .22LR Guy as well because I can afford to practice. Thanks for the excellent vids!

    • @demonstratedconceptsllc4918
      @demonstratedconceptsllc4918  2 года назад +4

      Thanks. Lcr is better trigger. 43c has some issues with guns breaking that I haven’t seen in the lcr22

    • @eskimodoot2006
      @eskimodoot2006 2 года назад +1

      @@demonstratedconceptsllc4918 Thanks!

    • @paulross9287
      @paulross9287 2 года назад

      @@demonstratedconceptsllc4918 I was wondering that too, thanks for the information.

  • @TangoFoxtrotRando
    @TangoFoxtrotRando 2 года назад

    Always bringing good stuff. Thanks

  • @silverback3926
    @silverback3926 2 года назад +1

    What jeans are you buying that give enough room fir your hand to get a good grip and draw

  • @2greeksandacamera
    @2greeksandacamera 2 месяца назад

    Big fan of your channel and share your links. Quick question if I may on Ruger LCR in 22LR:
    Unlike my LCR in 38 Special the trigger is extra heavy.
    Was that an adjustment for you to get good accuracy or did you lighten the trigger springs a bit?
    Thanks

    • @demonstratedconceptsllc4918
      @demonstratedconceptsllc4918  2 месяца назад +1

      @@2greeksandacamera Thank you! I don’t mess with the internals of carry guns. I dry fire until I am comfortable with the trigger on any I gun I carry. There’s always an adjustment period.

    • @2greeksandacamera
      @2greeksandacamera 2 месяца назад +1

      I’m mighty close to adding the Ruger LCR 22 LR to my carry regimen, thanks to your excellent experienced coaching.

  • @jaredj631
    @jaredj631 2 года назад +1

    Totally legitimate! However I still think of Frank from its always sunny in Philadelphia when I hear somebody’s carrying two guns lol

    • @jaredj631
      @jaredj631 2 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/AHzw4QvE2Do/видео.html For reference

  • @postingwhateveriwant
    @postingwhateveriwant 2 года назад

    Not that I'd expect anything else from you, but it's nice to see a video about pocket carry where the person doesn't muzzle their hand while holstering. I can't tell you how many videos I've seen where people don't appear to understand how to keep their off hand high on the holster (sight channel area) and bring the gun under and in.

  • @bluguitar89
    @bluguitar89 2 года назад +4

    Love the shirt. Why carry two guns? Because that's what Ashford would do!

    • @fullm3taljacket
      @fullm3taljacket 2 года назад +1

      Belta lohda!

    • @hiskid13
      @hiskid13 2 года назад

      Cuz I still got Two Hands 🤙🏽🤙🏽

  • @cbbbbbbbbbbbb
    @cbbbbbbbbbbbb 2 года назад +1

    Always pushing. Appreciate the work you do, Rhett. Quick question: what do you carry in your pockets? I recently started trying pocket carry and am not sure where to put my things. I typically only carry a thin wallet and single car key (no fob) in my front left pocket and my phone in my front right. Micro pocket knife goes in coin pocket or front left if I don't have one. Pocket carry gun is the Taurus PT25.
    Debating a phone case that sticks on a belt or some other out of pocket phone holder. That, or heavily considering a fanny pack which would give me the ability to carry more, like a light, first aid, snack, and a bigger knife.

    • @naturalnewbie98
      @naturalnewbie98 2 года назад

      Here is my idea, maybe it's useful to you. ruclips.net/video/O96I6BQL2BM/видео.html

    • @Jesco-pi9gr
      @Jesco-pi9gr 2 года назад +1

      Transform over to work pants style that had the phone pocket down on the side of leg. Takes care of everything.

  • @rustwins4442
    @rustwins4442 2 года назад +2

    Very interesting stuff as always. What are your thoughts on the NAA mini revolvers, specifically the PUG and Black Widow?

    • @demonstratedconceptsllc4918
      @demonstratedconceptsllc4918  2 года назад +6

      Thanks!
      If they made a double action, I’d try it.

    • @SasquatchComposites
      @SasquatchComposites 2 года назад

      @@demonstratedconceptsllc4918 That's the single reason I haven't bought one. Cocking the hammer is not only slow, but it's a lot of fine motor movement added in a high stress situation. You can train for that, but it'll still always be slower than a double action.

  • @ababab678
    @ababab678 2 года назад

    Thanks for the video!

  • @timroot4207
    @timroot4207 2 года назад

    Thank you !

  • @miguelramirez7590
    @miguelramirez7590 2 года назад

    Awesome insight

  • @bryantprak7129
    @bryantprak7129 2 года назад

    No need to lie, just say you wanna dual wield with that certified gangsta lean

  • @Sampilo
    @Sampilo 2 года назад +1

    What pocket holster are you using?

  • @TraydonDunkheel
    @TraydonDunkheel Год назад

    Where are you getting holsters that allow for deep concealability like that?

  • @jtbayly
    @jtbayly 2 года назад

    You never said why you carry a second gun. You just explained the benefits of pocket carry. When would you reach for the appendix carried gun?

  • @chillinraptor7176
    @chillinraptor7176 2 года назад +1

    Guess I'll add a second 44 magnum to my carry setup, thanks a lot for my back problems

    • @mrmicro22
      @mrmicro22 2 года назад +1

      Balance in all things.

    • @evin98
      @evin98 2 года назад +1

      You might like a Charter Boomer 44. The ultimate pocket-draw speed demon: 19oz and no sights to slow you down

    • @demonstratedconceptsllc4918
      @demonstratedconceptsllc4918  2 года назад

      🤣

  • @edstringer1138
    @edstringer1138 Год назад

    Why carry a lcr 22 when a 642 is smaller ?////Im not being a calibuer snob (I carry a 32 acp on the regular ) I just dont understand the choice of a less reliable round, with no advantage in trigger pull and larger and heavier

  • @MichaelBurke-f2p
    @MichaelBurke-f2p 7 дней назад

    I pocket carry a lot but I will never appendix carry I feel there is just too high of a chance of shooting myself in practice or the real deal if that were ever to happen. As far as trying to be a hero in a store hold up for me not going to happen.

  • @blueeyephil
    @blueeyephil 2 года назад

    Boy, I need to get to practicing! Body shots I'm prtty good at with. Head shots if I take my time.

  • @vicnighthorse
    @vicnighthorse 2 года назад +1

    Thanks. I have been carrying two for just that reason. I'd like having a hand on a gun if things started looking orange.

  • @ZorcNecrofear
    @ZorcNecrofear Год назад

    any gun i can carry in my pocket im usually not confident in drawing and shooting my g2c is the smallest i'd ever want to go why i prefer a fuller size handgun for appendix

  • @matthewbds12
    @matthewbds12 Год назад

    I think a better context for this would be if your range is in a common remote area. There are numerous stories of crooks robbing people at remote ranges for their guns then murdering them. Is it likely no, but with a gun in your hand no one expects you to have another gun.

  • @mikef3808
    @mikef3808 2 года назад

    I carry my high standard deringer in the pocket and then something somewhere else. The deringer disappears and I can have my ha d kn it if I'm in a situation that I'm uncomfortable with.

  • @Mister-sm1hs
    @Mister-sm1hs 2 года назад

    Are u faster w LCR from pocket or AIWB?

  • @fullm3taljacket
    @fullm3taljacket 2 года назад

    Hooooly cooow, dat shirt tho!

  • @cagneybillingsley2165
    @cagneybillingsley2165 2 года назад +1

    more like when you over think and "what if" yourself into weirdness. just carry a m&p 2.0 shield or compact on your strong side and be done with it

    • @mkshffr4936
      @mkshffr4936 3 месяца назад

      No thanks. I have experienced the advantage of pocket carry.
      Case in point... Working in a machine shop in the bad part of town. Coming into work a guy with that look approached. I put my hand on my model 36 in the pocket. He decided he had somewhere else to be. If he hadn't I was already set to back it up.
      Having another gun in a more "conventional" location would be fine but having that pocket option is really helpful.

  • @basedhardhands
    @basedhardhands 2 года назад +2

    The "staged" position with hands clasped I'm front of the belt buckle is less suspicious than a hand in the pocket during an altercation. Hands clasped I might think dude is gonna try to sucker punch me hand in the pocket I think weapon.

    • @mjizzle42071
      @mjizzle42071 2 года назад +3

      I agree with your stance, however, with your hand in pocket if most were to assume you have a weapon it may be enough to make them withdraw from the conflict. A lot of criminals know what a “hand in the pocket means”, you have something that can potentially hurt them. From my experiences most criminals don’t like “hard targets” either.

    • @marcusg8419
      @marcusg8419 2 года назад

      I watch too many "shooters". Hands clasped, I think gun. Hand in pocket (esp in back pocket) I think knife.

    • @mkshffr4936
      @mkshffr4936 3 месяца назад

      I disagree that posture is so unnatural people gotta wonder if you are enjoying yourself so to speak. A hand casually in the pocket is a very common posture that I often take even when unarmed.

  • @DanTheWolfman
    @DanTheWolfman 2 года назад

    Hey Brother, assuming you saw mine 9 reasons carry a BUG ruclips.net/video/vKXntrhtKFo/видео.html . My Primary hand gets either AIWB or OWB 3' oclock...My Offside front pocket gets my BUG....3 yard 1 hand headshots as in Robbery "getting your wallet" w small Micro9 or previously lcp .98 regular and w a Snub 1.3. I'm about 1.5-1.6 AIWB and probably 1.60-1.65 from OWB. If you were doing regular AIWB instead of Philster Deep I'd recommend opposite hand option. I decided on that in most cases instead of a fixed blade/TDI (except one job that got TDI more as primary w/ lcp at the time if shtf). On Duty I do also have a WAVE folder but that is like very last ditch & more as a tool.

  • @jackjackjack51
    @jackjackjack51 2 года назад

    Maybe just pocket carry then?

  • @platoplombo15
    @platoplombo15 2 года назад +3

    For the Al Qur' Ihtum

  • @joshmajor8662
    @joshmajor8662 2 года назад

    I’m glad your doing great man but to most of the EXPERIENCED shooters, we know your just over complicating something!! Haha 😂 if I wasn’t in Kentucky I’d love to come to a class but other than the short shotgun training, I just don’t see the use in this Lol 🤷‍♂️ 90% of the people watching don’t train, let alone ACTUALLY carry daily. Things like this will just fill their adrenaline filled brain with too many options and likely get them shot or hurt severally. People won’t train, it’s just a sad, pathetic truth!! Good luck either way man 👍

  • @catching45
    @catching45 2 года назад

    Sub optimal shot placement with a .22: bad news. With a 9mm (3x the power) might be okay. Non eyebox placement with .22 and the guys turns toward you, non eyebox placement with a 9mm and you're taking a followup while he's in shock. 0.3 sec more to make real hits seems more than worth it to carry a real (will defeat cover) gun.

  • @locksbog4270
    @locksbog4270 2 года назад

    👍👍👍😃✌️🇺🇸

  • @Joeak74
    @Joeak74 2 года назад

    Thumbs up #34

  • @kaschberle6948
    @kaschberle6948 2 года назад

    akimbo

  • @davep5161
    @davep5161 2 года назад

    carrying two guns is silly overkill... furthermore, carrying a second mag is the same... i carry eight rounds of 9mm in a tried & true reliable compact, in my front pocket... if that doesn't do the the trick, i'm not paying attention or i should have run away

    • @Fabyfakid
      @Fabyfakid 2 года назад

      A lot of the malfunctions are magazine related, the extra mag is not for extra ammo, its more for in the event the one in the gun doesnt work.

    • @davep5161
      @davep5161 2 года назад

      @@Fabyfakid "tried & true reliable compact" includes the magazine... if the first would fail, then why not the second? might as well carry a full complement of six.

    • @mkshffr4936
      @mkshffr4936 3 месяца назад

      Guns break.

  • @alhorn2664
    @alhorn2664 Год назад +2

    a New York reload is quicker than clearing a malfunction or reloading an empty gun!