Obviously Vincent is miles clear in every department which is key. From starting training establishment {huge} betting to survive, buying plenty of his own stock, at sales, breeding knowledge, seeing potential i.e northern dancer and ultimate training and hugely successful both codes. Vincents legacy lives on through coolmore, ballydoyle. brilliant facilities which he founding member. All terrific trainers above but none have all these qualities to such a high level. special mention to Jim Bolger, Mark Johnson who both started from scratch. Looking for negatives i would have to say Henry Cecil reluctance for international racing is big flaw. Would rarely have runners abroad unless likes of middle eastern owners etc wanted. That was a big reason Dubai removed all their horses from him and others. You had to more or less force henry to run abroad.
Aiden is a wonderful fellow but Henry Cecil I'm afraid was a class above. . Given the same horse Henry would extract more from a horse than aiden no question.
Peter Walwyn, Vincent O'Brien, Jim Bolger, Francois Boutin, Aiden O'Brien (Top Five) in no specific order...... Dick Hern, Henry Cecil, John Oxx, Angel Penna, Michael Stoute (in no specific order...)
Who are your Top 5 greatest flat trainers of all time? Tell us in the comments!
Vincent o Brien has to be tops, we cannot ignore National Hunt as well as the Flat.
Do you agree with Sir AP that he's had the greatest impact on horse racing of any trainer?
Obviously Vincent is miles clear in every department which is key. From starting training establishment {huge} betting to survive, buying plenty of his own stock, at sales, breeding knowledge, seeing potential i.e northern dancer and ultimate training and hugely successful both codes. Vincents legacy lives on through coolmore, ballydoyle. brilliant facilities which he founding member. All terrific trainers above but none have all these qualities to such a high level.
special mention to Jim Bolger, Mark Johnson who both started from scratch. Looking for negatives i would have to say Henry Cecil reluctance for international racing is big flaw. Would rarely have runners abroad unless likes of middle eastern owners etc wanted. That was a big reason Dubai removed all their horses from him and others.
You had to more or less force henry to run abroad.
Got to have sir Henry.
He died for the horse.
U think aidan can do better with frankel?
I don't think..
Interesting way of looking at it!
What a joke the greatest off them Vincent O'Brien without question no arguments
It's only in this era
@@robertdelacy3434 ok I don't know they said that
@@seamusdurcan3774 The panel did discuss Vincent's impact on racing, too.
Vincent o Brien top marks in every aspect. A genuine self made absolute genius.
Loved hearing Sir AP and Nick discuss his impact on the sport.
Same question for Jockeys Ireland & UK?
They done it before the girl in video said Johnson was a better jockey than Walsh that’s the level you’re dealing with here shocking
Aiden is a wonderful fellow but Henry Cecil I'm afraid was a class above. .
Given the same horse Henry would extract more from a horse than aiden no question.
Can certainly make the case that Sir Henry deserves to be No. 1!
Peter Walwyn, Vincent O'Brien, Jim Bolger, Francois Boutin, Aiden O'Brien (Top Five) in no specific order...... Dick Hern, Henry Cecil, John Oxx, Angel Penna, Michael Stoute (in no specific order...)
A solid list!
Vincent O’BRIEN, Henry Cecil, Aiden O’BRIEN, Michael Stoute, Dick Hern
Strong list!
It has to be Aidan for me.
Kate, Louis, Nick and Sir AP agree!
Aiden O'Brien by the length of the straight.
Perfect metaphor!
Vincent O Brien full stop
Icon!
Vincent obrien 1 adian obrien 2 Andre farbre 3 Henry cecil 4 an Sir Michael stoute 5
All legends!
Aidan is the best... his adversaries agreed
Hard to argue with him at No. 1!
they DONT MAKE PEOPLE LIKE AIDAN O BRIEN HE HAS WHAT OTHERS HAVENT
Sir AP agrees with you!