Recently there was a post on the Ugreen NAS website that there would be a 10% discount to the price for one month starting from 1st of July and sales would start on the 1st of July. The post is now gone for some reason.
Realistically, the lack of robust software does count. Before you trust your data to UGreen, you hope the software is not a "work in progress". As noted by another comment, lack of ECC memory is the biggest con. As an ancient Solaris admin, we generally had about once a month an ECC error (log servers are great) out of 500 or so systems 15 years ago. Being able to use TrueNAS is great, but really lack of ECC memory is the biggest con. Bitrot is real, and ZFS is great, but the lack of ECC really hurts UGreen. That said, I have received the 6 bay UGreen and will be trying it out (with TrueNAS).
How many ecc faults have you seen in the last years? I have seen dimms give up but I have never seen a single system doing any ecc action. Ideally I would have liked ecc memory but with the ddr5 standard I am a bit more okay with it
UGreen NAS is more of an extra media server for me than my main NAS. I definitely won't trust it with important data yet but right now for most basic stuff it works just fine and the hardware is great! Their software is also improving and getting updated fast and their phone app is even better than Synology. For spying/malware, so far nothing really suspicious is popping on my firewall but I'll keep it restricted and heavily monitored for now. All in all no regrets so far backing UGreen on Kickstarter! When it comes down to it, I can just install TrueNAS Scale or unRAID and still have hardware warranty too. 👍
The main problem with Ugreen is they will only provide security updates for 2 years since release. This is so short it's basically a deal breaker, do they expect me to buy a new nas every 2 years? No other nas company does that.
@@zaraza. I can certainly understand that for some, security updates are important. In my case, I'm looking to replace my old LenovoEMD PX4-400Ds that are used in my LAN only as file storage so for me, the Ugreens would be a major upgrade in every way!
I've bought cables and ethernet adapters from them before. I think they're here to stay and will eventually catch up to the rest and possibly surpass them.
Synology is known for providing software updates and support for their products for a significant period of time. However If there are concerns about Synology potentially stopping support for their products my question is should I buy?
QNAP QuTS / QuTS Hero is a more mature OS (stable, feature rich, intuitive ect) then UGreen UGOS and that is saying something. Oi, if anyone with access to a UGReen NAS also has a QNAP 2-Port SFF-8088 SATA III Host Bus Adapter PCIe card or the like, be a mate and give it a go. Since UGreen UGOS doesn’t allow for external access of external storage (USB and presumably Thunderbolt as well) expansion is nigh impossible outside of the existing HDD / SSD bays.
As you say, QNAP has 20 years head-start... unfortunately their security is still stuck in 2005 aswell, they are constantly in the news with reports of large numbers of their boxes being hacked - this is not a "Linux" problem, its a QNAP problem, as they run all apps under a single user, and this user has access to all your data. I appreciate this is a difficult thing to fix, when their whole software eco-system would need updating. but its been 5-6 years since these attacks really started, and they can only be given a "pass" for so long.. I'd love to know if UGREEN has learnt this lesson, has anybody checked this?
Thanks for the video. Alot of UGreen users have ended up installing 3rd party OS's "temporarily". We'll see if that's true or not, I doubt I'll go back to it. I'm overall happy with the hardware and build quality, however I had to re-paste my unit since it was idling at 70C.
@@RespectedDesperado after the re-paste it's idling at 50C. I should mention I'm using the all flash model, and I'm on a third floor apartment without AC, and it's roughly 70-90F.
@@nascompares In mine I have an expansion card with 2 nvme SSDs, which contain the system and the cache, and they always end up disconnecting for no reason, that's why I laughed a little when I heard in the video that qnap has 20 years of experience.
I dont trust UgreenOS in any way or form for important data and thats exactly the usecase for a typically Home NAS. I was really interested in the great hardware for kickstarter price, but on April they didnt even support absolutely basic things like Snapshots, HDD Upgrades (bigger Size), RAID Migration (R1 to R5), or working SMB folder Permissions. With Ugreen you basically buy just the hardware and have to manage your own OMV, TrueNAS or Unraid. With QNAP your get a complete Product with OS, Apps and Ecosystem. Thats why its more expensive. I ended up buying a Qnap TS-462.
@@shansen008 You could only order from US and Germany on Kickstarter some months ago. Right now they are preparing to ship their Devices to retailers, but without the 40% Kickstarter Discount.
Recently there was a post on the Ugreen NAS website that sales would start on the 1st of July and there would be a 10% discount to the price for one month. The post is now gone for some reason.
@@kristopherleslie8343 Yes sir, it works 99% as a regular Synology DSM would work. Only thing not working as of today (and we're in early stages here) is controlling the LEDS (my device is stowed away so no clue about LEDS anyways) and the best way to currently handle the Fans is via the BIOS settings as the seeing within DSM is not working. But since the Bios controls the fans anyways life is fine for me.
I just hope UGreen keep the Kickstarter prices, at least for few months, as they've offered only for 2 countries. Cheers from Brazil!
Recently there was a post on the Ugreen NAS website that there would be a 10% discount to the price for one month starting from 1st of July and sales would start on the 1st of July. The post is now gone for some reason.
Realistically, the lack of robust software does count. Before you trust your data to UGreen, you hope the software is not a "work in progress". As noted by another comment, lack of ECC memory is the biggest con. As an ancient Solaris admin, we generally had about once a month an ECC error (log servers are great) out of 500 or so systems 15 years ago. Being able to use TrueNAS is great, but really lack of ECC memory is the biggest con. Bitrot is real, and ZFS is great, but the lack of ECC really hurts UGreen. That said, I have received the 6 bay UGreen and will be trying it out (with TrueNAS).
How many ecc faults have you seen in the last years? I have seen dimms give up but I have never seen a single system doing any ecc action. Ideally I would have liked ecc memory but with the ddr5 standard I am a bit more okay with it
TrueNAS core or scale ?
Again, a comparison that fills gaps and is interesting. Thanks! 😊
UGreen NAS is more of an extra media server for me than my main NAS. I definitely won't trust it with important data yet but right now for most basic stuff it works just fine and the hardware is great! Their software is also improving and getting updated fast and their phone app is even better than Synology.
For spying/malware, so far nothing really suspicious is popping on my firewall but I'll keep it restricted and heavily monitored for now.
All in all no regrets so far backing UGreen on Kickstarter! When it comes down to it, I can just install TrueNAS Scale or unRAID and still have hardware warranty too. 👍
The main problem with Ugreen is they will only provide security updates for 2 years since release. This is so short it's basically a deal breaker, do they expect me to buy a new nas every 2 years? No other nas company does that.
@@zaraza. I can certainly understand that for some, security updates are important. In my case, I'm looking to replace my old LenovoEMD PX4-400Ds that are used in my LAN only as file storage so for me, the Ugreens would be a major upgrade in every way!
I've bought cables and ethernet adapters from them before. I think they're here to stay and will eventually catch up to the rest and possibly surpass them.
Is there a NAS system capable of doing a complete backup of IOS devices, together with away from ICloud? Looking at their software.
Synology is known for providing software updates and support for their products for a significant period of time. However If there are concerns about Synology potentially stopping support for their products my question is should I buy?
QNAP QuTS / QuTS Hero is a more mature OS (stable, feature rich, intuitive ect) then UGreen UGOS and that is saying something.
Oi, if anyone with access to a UGReen NAS also has a QNAP 2-Port SFF-8088 SATA III Host Bus Adapter PCIe card or the like, be a mate and give it a go. Since UGreen UGOS doesn’t allow for external access of external storage (USB and presumably Thunderbolt as well) expansion is nigh impossible outside of the existing HDD / SSD bays.
Any update like the zimacube ?
thank you
As you say, QNAP has 20 years head-start... unfortunately their security is still stuck in 2005 aswell, they are constantly in the news with reports of large numbers of their boxes being hacked - this is not a "Linux" problem, its a QNAP problem, as they run all apps under a single user, and this user has access to all your data. I appreciate this is a difficult thing to fix, when their whole software eco-system would need updating. but its been 5-6 years since these attacks really started, and they can only be given a "pass" for so long..
I'd love to know if UGREEN has learnt this lesson, has anybody checked this?
reports of Ugreen NAS's failing to recognize drives and requiring multiple reboots ..... Ugreen support has been non existent for these users
Thanks for the video. Alot of UGreen users have ended up installing 3rd party OS's "temporarily". We'll see if that's true or not, I doubt I'll go back to it. I'm overall happy with the hardware and build quality, however I had to re-paste my unit since it was idling at 70C.
Weird. Mine is between idle and max 15% usage like 45c.
@@RespectedDesperado after the re-paste it's idling at 50C. I should mention I'm using the all flash model, and I'm on a third floor apartment without AC, and it's roughly 70-90F.
I have the DXP6800 and DXP8800 and both idles at around 40C.
@@GroundDwellerStudioS that explains it then
Still waiting to see if Ugreen will be worst then Qnap in terms security response when dealing with a deadbolt lookalikes.
Cant even find where to buy one of these ugreen NAS appliances. So whats the point?
My friend just asked is that a Medium raw turkey solution 😂
I replied that the hardware is still nice ,maybe give it a try ?
I recognize the interface of a qnap NAS, with these orange and red alerts, to warn you that for no reason a disk drive has disconnected !
That's just my test machine. I pulled a drive for another vid. Well spotted though!
@@nascompares In mine I have an expansion card with 2 nvme SSDs, which contain the system and the cache, and they always end up disconnecting for no reason, that's why I laughed a little when I heard in the video that qnap has 20 years of experience.
Great comparison, i wanted to add that Qumagie does contain an AI engine for object and other recognition :)
Hey, maybe you could do some performance comparison of usb DAS boxes ?
Another excellent video. A.
It’s already at retail as you cannot purchase it on kickstarter anymore
Good morning Robbie, is the recording almost out?
I dont trust UgreenOS in any way or form for important data and thats exactly the usecase for a typically Home NAS. I was really interested in the great hardware for kickstarter price, but on April they didnt even support absolutely basic things like Snapshots, HDD Upgrades (bigger Size), RAID Migration (R1 to R5), or working SMB folder Permissions. With Ugreen you basically buy just the hardware and have to manage your own OMV, TrueNAS or Unraid. With QNAP your get a complete Product with OS, Apps and Ecosystem. Thats why its more expensive. I ended up buying a Qnap TS-462.
I was looking to get one for the nice hardware and use Truenas, but where to buy? Seems you might as well build your own.
@@shansen008 You could only order from US and Germany on Kickstarter some months ago. Right now they are preparing to ship their Devices to retailers, but without the 40% Kickstarter Discount.
Does anyone know when the devices will become available to the masses...
Ugreen devices - obvi
Recently there was a post on the Ugreen NAS website that sales would start on the 1st of July and there would be a 10% discount to the price for one month. The post is now gone for some reason.
i want see ugreen with xpenology :D
Pretty easy thing to do, running it on my 4800+ and am overly happy.
@@stevemcqueeny thanks for informing
@@stevemcqueenyhow does the raid work
@@kristopherleslie8343 Yes sir, it works 99% as a regular Synology DSM would work. Only thing not working as of today (and we're in early stages here) is controlling the LEDS (my device is stowed away so no clue about LEDS anyways) and the best way to currently handle the Fans is via the BIOS settings as the seeing within DSM is not working. But since the Bios controls the fans anyways life is fine for me.
UGrren with TrueNAS Scale, ECC aside. ECC is why I canceled.