The Z890 Carbon is $200 more than the Z890 Tomahawk, yet there are very few differences that are relevant to many people. You go from 16+1+1+1 power to 20+1+1+1 (but who really needs that much power unless you're doing LN extreme overclocking). Carbon adds one more M.2 slot and converts some 5Gbps USB ports to 10Gbps and supports PCMIE bifurcation in the BIOS. Most buyers will find no real benefit by paying $200 more for Carbon and would not even notice a difference from MAG Z890 Tomahawk (other than color scheme).
Yes you make very good points. But i think the carbon is always on a class on its own, it is like the entry point to MSI's higher end boards, and it is something more sensible than the Ace or even the Godlike (ok actually Ace does look nice). But between the Tomahawk and Carbon, just for practical sense, you are right, Tomahawk is better for the wallet. Although I think there's also a Unify?
@@RealMelTan - A board is only what its features make it. I've outlined the only feature differences of consequence. It isn't in a new class just because of its name. But, if you have a reason to want it, go for it.
God bless every motherboard this round who uses that tool to easy connect front panel. Most hated part of building a pc for me is to properly connect power switch 😀
haha i agree with you. Even after installing quite a few boards, the IO still gets me sometimes. I have no tested this cable though, hopefully it is easy to install?
Great review! Looks like there's a lot stuff around the CPU area which can limit your choices of using air coolers. I wonder how good the IOMMU groupings are such that you run linux as the host with one gpu and run windows jailed in a vm with another gpu using gpu passthrough. At 8x for the 2nd pcie slot, it's more than enough for the host...which then leads to the BIOS, Gigabyte with their Aorus boards allows you to choose which PCIE slot to use as your startup GPU, not sure if MSI caught on to that (which I have setup and works perfectly with a 5950X X570S GB Master with a 3080 and 3070 GPU)
I have a few air coolers i can test with, but i do not have the board with me (have returned to MSI). I am not familiar with the IOMMU groupings, but i think for this higher end board, there should be enough lanes and bandwidth to run what you need. I am not sure if you can select which slot you want to use for your GPU, if i can run the BIOS, will update you.
This or stick with older Intel boards?
MSI B760 Tomahawk review here: ruclips.net/video/itmOSLca-ks/видео.html
The Z890 Carbon is $200 more than the Z890 Tomahawk, yet there are very few differences that are relevant to many people. You go from 16+1+1+1 power to 20+1+1+1 (but who really needs that much power unless you're doing LN extreme overclocking). Carbon adds one more M.2 slot and converts some 5Gbps USB ports to 10Gbps and supports PCMIE bifurcation in the BIOS. Most buyers will find no real benefit by paying $200 more for Carbon and would not even notice a difference from MAG Z890 Tomahawk (other than color scheme).
Yes you make very good points. But i think the carbon is always on a class on its own, it is like the entry point to MSI's higher end boards, and it is something more sensible than the Ace or even the Godlike (ok actually Ace does look nice).
But between the Tomahawk and Carbon, just for practical sense, you are right, Tomahawk is better for the wallet.
Although I think there's also a Unify?
@@RealMelTan - A board is only what its features make it. I've outlined the only feature differences of consequence. It isn't in a new class just because of its name. But, if you have a reason to want it, go for it.
God bless every motherboard this round who uses that tool to easy connect front panel. Most hated part of building a pc for me is to properly connect power switch 😀
haha i agree with you. Even after installing quite a few boards, the IO still gets me sometimes. I have no tested this cable though, hopefully it is easy to install?
Great review! Looks like there's a lot stuff around the CPU area which can limit your choices of using air coolers. I wonder how good the IOMMU groupings are such that you run linux as the host with one gpu and run windows jailed in a vm with another gpu using gpu passthrough. At 8x for the 2nd pcie slot, it's more than enough for the host...which then leads to the BIOS, Gigabyte with their Aorus boards allows you to choose which PCIE slot to use as your startup GPU, not sure if MSI caught on to that (which I have setup and works perfectly with a 5950X X570S GB Master with a 3080 and 3070 GPU)
I have a few air coolers i can test with, but i do not have the board with me (have returned to MSI).
I am not familiar with the IOMMU groupings, but i think for this higher end board, there should be enough lanes and bandwidth to run what you need. I am not sure if you can select which slot you want to use for your GPU, if i can run the BIOS, will update you.