@@IAm-zo1bo It's YT, which I already use fake accounts in, but who am I kidding? And Google maps. I do a lot of real estate research, and use the navigator a lot. Also the Store. And I use very cheap android tracfone plan that I buy through hsn that cost $10/mo including the phone, lol.. I can't afford a $400 degoogled phone, but if I scraped that up, how would a carrier plan work anonymously?
@@dreamingrightnow1174 My phone is 300 dollars xiaomi phone which i installed LineagoOS which is degoogled as default. For youtube if you can sacrifice commenting on videos you can install newpipe (you can still store subsriptions and playlists but on your phone and not on an account), for maps you might find a different maps but i have google maps and it works without gapps except gps is weird
To me personally, none of those are cons. Worth sacrificing. Not only that, it’s worth fighting against big tech. We have to be willing to give up our conveniences for the greater good.
EXACTLY! Just the principle alone! Why would you carry around a device that spies on you, commercializes you, and shares your data with anyone and everyone including intelligence agencies. You're literally walking around with a narc in your pocket. Google will use anything you use your phone for against you if they deem it necessary.
- GoogleMaps, please take me to the restaurant. "Yes, sir. Please follow this instructio..." -Thanks GMaps that was very helpful, you can stop tracking now "Hahah, no you silly"
Handing over the ability to "UnPerson" you to a corporation that most recently has been working actively to "UnPerson" people they don't like for purely political reasons... is the only reason I need. I love Google/RUclips/FaceBook services but their corporations have proven themselves to be a direct threat to our American sense of freedom and free speech. I can live without the service, my liberty is worth more.
@Ray N did you flash your phone? Are you running a custom OS? NO, so that's degoogling your phone as described in this video.. basically if you have any Google apps on your phone then ya didn't degoogle it.. Best of luck oNe
Two phones like a dealer. Spare "burner" Google phone on the side for RUclips, maps and Android auto etc. Rest of the time privacy focused phone as daily driver?
@@drollio It acts sort of like a VPN but it's only designed for YT to work on degoogled phones. What it does is spoof your Google ID so they think it's you but it's not, it doesn't collect your real information. I only have a Google account for YT and I have to use this app to view YT on my phone. Otherwise I use the computer with a VPN.
@@ThatGuy-vi8ch You can also use something like videohunter or playon to record YT at home then watch saved videos offline. Cant watch brand new yt videos though
I used Symbian and meego Os up too 2017. Then I switched to BB10 up to 2019. I been safe from apple and google. I just bought android phone. And i feel like under surveillance 24/ 7. I'm ready to jump out. And get Linux Os.
"What does it profit a man to gain the whole world yet forfeit his soul". 40, 60, 100, 200 years ago people lived just fine without google or cell phones. This is about sticking to the principle of one's natural human right to privacy.
Good point we are paying for all those free stuff Google has to offer. Life was better when the phone rang and you knew who was on the other end. Not anymore. You would think a new phone number would be free of all this non sense but not anymore. We had more privacy with a party line. And remember when we used letters in our phone numbers for the location. Times have deteriorated over the years.
kind of, the issue is that long time ago the level of efficacy and knowledge was not even close to now, therefore the collective opportunity of the man to access to knowledge and use it for good either.
@@ariloguecom Graphene is the way to go if you have a Pixel phone. /e/ provides a more out-of-the-box private experience than LineageOS, if your phone is supported. Lineage has the bigger list of supported devices, but is a more minimalistic approach.
@@lucasrampasso3428 my phone is motorola z2 play.graphene is not suitable for me i was stuck to choosing between /e/ and lineage. thanks for your reply : )
Good review. De-googling my own phone and it helps to have a review like this. As I prefer using my cell phone as a phone with limited connectivity anyways and even google maps gets things horrendously wrong sometimes - I don't mind losing the invasive hooks that google likes to keep in us.
Yes, you can't do it all at once really, it's better to find alt apps over time so you find the best ones that work for you. De-googling isn't a single event, it's an ongoing process everyday, and also gradually convincing family and friends to degoogle too without annoying then too much.
Worked a lot better than I thought it would. The things I pointed out in the video were more of nit pick things, and it is entirely possible to live without google. I just choose not to.
@@ChrisTitusTech And I find this puzzling. For nit picking reasons you would rather sacrifice your privacy for very minor conveniences. Surely you can reply to RUclips comments (I guess I didn't realize just how important that is) on your computer when you are home. On the issue of Google maps then yeah, that's a difficult one to not have on your phone.
I did the same with Lineage OS (Redmi Note7) and the only thing i will miss out of quarintine is FB Messenger (to hang out with friends), Google Maps (as Chris stated before) and Didi (uber alternative, in my country it's cheaper) that sadly uses GServices. The only alternative i can find is using MicroG, but i dont know if that's gonna affect battery life (it has lasted way LONG that my stock rom), i think Lineage has an option to ennable services only when opening the app, so i hope that just makes it.
@@TOMinPDX Like you mentioned, Google maps is great. Plus I once went Lineage without Google apps. I got all sorts of problems with various programs, it really friggin sucks to not to have any recommendations when browsing net. Then try to search for something maps related when you don't have location services and history. Yeah, good luck with getting good results. You should really try it before saying others that they nitpick.
I have installed lineage OS too. Started thinking about google services and tracking in phone as a whole after watching this video. I'm lucky I don't have a car, or I don't live in a big city, so I don't really need maps or auto. Thanks for introducing this to me.
@@cvekcvek Yes that makes sense, I have an LG G5 lying around half broken, I can probably use that. But it's impossible to own a car it where I live, there's a %200 tax for cars. Thanks for the idea though
@@glukglukglukgluk9994 must be nice not to have to drive but if you want to live where your neighbors are hundred's of feet away it's better to drive when you need to and stay home too. I'm a country person and love to travel but I don't need Google maps to tell me where I'm going. My Garmin GPS is good enough, the older models. The price was right at $10.00. 73
I am researching open source software (degoogling/demicrosofting/ de-controlled-deepstate-linked software in general.) The most surprising discovery I have made is how massive Peertube is but am still investigating it. Nice, honest review on your degoogling experience btw.
I appreciate these kinds of videos. It's one thing to complain about invasion of privacy. It's quite another to weigh this against the practical concerns, the convenience and the pros/cons. I think Google does have a lot of great services - Maps, Translate, GMail, Drive, and so on. Maybe the practical solution is to have as little Google as possible. Thanks, Chris!
Couple of points: the sucky thing about de-Googling and de-coupling from other major players, is that sometimes there is a cost involved. For example, I'm using two apps that I'd recommend to replace a few of the apps you mentioned and those are: Automagic and Tasker (and one other I'll mention later). These two apps are, last I looked, five and eight bucks respectively; they are apps that allow you to program functionality into your phone that many other apps can do. Automagic has a literal flowchart style way of programming what they call "flows" but I haven't used that one much. I have more experience with Tasker. For example, I have placed a few radii over spots on a map of movie theaters in my town I regularly go to, and when my phone detects I'm in one of those spots, it will automatically turn my phone to vibrate mode; in essence, I don't ever have to remind myself to turn my phone off when in a movie theater. Simple, yet I really like it. Same with calendar appointments: as long as I put an appointment into my calendar, Tasker will turn my phone to vibrate mode during the allotted appointment time. Both of these apps can also utilize pretty much every sensor the phone has -- the acclerometer can detect if it's going faster than say, six miles an hour, thus turning the phone into automotive mode, or whatever. There are a lot of ideas floating around on the net regarding clever things that other people have done with Tasker and Automagic; they can be quite sophisticated, really. Sensing whether or not the phone is face up or down, what time of day, light levels, pretty much everything and no need to root the phone either. I never found a dialer app which worked for me for a long time, so I wrote my own whitelist. Any incoming call that is not on my contacts list will automatically go to voicemail. You can easily program Tasker to assign different ringtones to different numbers or texts; sure, many apps can do that now, but it's nice for me to have that level of control. My current phone is a Galaxy S8, but I'm pretty sure it will work with more current kernels. The last I will mention is a mapquest-type app called Navigon. It's from a German company, I think, and it was the most expensive one at around $40 US. However, I tried about six or seven different map apps and this one was the best supported for both US and European maps which can be downloaded and used off-line; which again, was far better than Google maps or Drive a few years ago. Maybe Google maps I think you can now download map sections buuuutttt... it's still using google services. Navigon also has some other paid services which Google does not have and I have found it to be up to date enough map-wise that it hadn't ever been an issue. But YMMV and all that...
Sounds like Google has REALLY mastered the art of making Google addicting and convenient to want it in our gadgets!! There will be plenty of spoof apps that do the same thing as google on Linux!! 😉 We have to get around the big Tech trying to keep there hand in our personal lives!! 🤘
I love & use Linux on 2 laptops (2012 MBP and Framework) but I yet to see a usuable Linux phone as a daily driver. If you are aware of one, I'm interested. I know about the Libre 5 and Pinephone..
The Google itself isn't a problem, the problem is that with their enormous capital, they basically killed all competitions almost everywhere and only other big tech can compete with them.
Wait. Can't you simply open RUclips in a browser and access everything that way? I do it all the time, and the only thing it's not capable of doing without Google Services is "casting".
I have been wishing for years there was a phone more like a PC. Where it comes as bare hardware with no OS at all, and you could download an iso and install any os flavor you want. No worries about rooting or unlocking bootloaders or downloading a limited selection of custom roms from forums since they only work on certain phones. No update headaches. Just let me install the OS I want and run updates like on a pc.
my approach is fairphone 3 and /e/ OS. I use computer for my youtube channel and NewPipe for watching videos, F-droid + Aurora store for apps and malicious apps, i don't use maps or android auto
I grew up and worked for 20 years selling on the road in Kentucky, Tennessee and Virginia with no phone and had nothing but a map and a pay phone. People have gotten away from stopping and asking for directions and making friends out there.
I don't know what maps app you used, but I really like OsmAnd. Its routing is slow af on 200km+ distances, but other than that it does everything I want. It also has most POIs incluing opening hours.
The best solution is to use /e/ from e foundation. It is an OS made for privacy and it is totally degoogled. It still let's you use android apps, and you can even install RUclips or other Google apps if you wish so. You can still get notifications thanks to MicroG which is integrated in /e/ Maps app in /e/ is one of the best maps app and works better than OSMAnd
I think that Waze is a great substitute for Google Maps. Both projects under the development of Google Corporation and provide similar accurate results. Moreover, Waze doesn't require Google services. So it may be possible to use Waze as an great alternative for de-googled phone.
Probably the most stabilized RUclips video 👍 How did you do it ? 3-axis gimbal ? Built-in camera stabilization ? Video editing software ? Please explain 👍
Walking in a neighborhood without a mask, enjoying uncensored free speech, and having no fear of being attacked by antifa or BLM.... ahhhh the good ole days.
Convenience over privacy? I grew up in a time when Americans not only expected their privacy but demanded it. What was really disturbing and shocking is how quickly Americans gave up their privacy.
@@uncommonsenseU more annoymonus then you would be with GAPPS but using Gmail does take away a bit of privacy. There are other Gmail alternatives that don't require GAPPS and use your Gmail can account. I personally recommend Proton Mail though which is an entirely different service that's encrypted and doesn't use your Gmail account.
@@techwizz- I second Proton Mail. I've switched to that and am slowly forwarding all bills and other accounts over to that to get away from Google for good. I imagine the last thing to go will be RUclips. I can do without literally everything else they offer, but so far all the other apps like YT just don't have enough content yet.
@@IAmSuperStick I was watching Techlore's review of GrapheneOS and he mentioned something called Newpipe, which is an alternative to youtube. It is youtube, and has all the videos youtube has, it's just privacy focused. idk what exactly is different about it, but watch a video on it and check it out
Hey, if you're willing to give up just a little privacy instead of all of it for the sake of convenience, I recommend micro g. That's what I'm doing and it has been great! It works on lineage perfectly
There is a actively developed youtube client which is just better youtube. It even supports the latest versions. It also has it own google services (microG) app.
@@arunthebuffoon4554 What about when they start coming after people because of their beliefs, they could be tracking a billion people but it's still easy to single out one person and affect them. Privacy always matters.
The "problem" with Google is that they have great products that everybody uses, and there is no alternative. Like Google search - yeah, there is DuckDuckGo, but it gives a whole other search experience, and while I find everything on Google in the first 5 lresults, well, not on DuckDuckGo, and I tried. Google Maps is superior - yes, there is OpenStreetMap, but Google Maps has SO MUCH user input too, that OSM simply doesn't. For navigation, there is also no real alternative with live traffic support. Waze is Google too... And RUclips, it has no alternative. All the other stuff has some great alternatives (Drive, Docs, Keep, Calendar, Contacts, Gmail, Photos), yet if you used them and want to change, you have to give up connectivity between those. And Google Apps is an ecosystem, and it's great. De-Googleing means everything gets segmented.
I agree with you on the maps side openstreetmaps just has less info a lot of the time, I have personally made the compromise of simply using other proprietary maps services (a combination of here WeGo and tomtom), as for other services however I would say it’s not so clear cut. I have never really had a need for calendar, contacts or gmail as these services aren’t unique to google in any meaningful way and have widely available open standard alternatives. Drive, docs, keep, photos and the rest of these cloud services made to replace local applications don’t fit into my workflow as I prefer to keep my files on a local server and edit documents, manage notes and photos, etc locally. Search engine wise I was extremely uncertain when I made the switch around 3 years back, but just as Oğuzhan İçelliler has already pointed out english results at least have been perfectly useable and in fact at times preferable as duckduckgo seems to favour giving results from services like wikipedia over more obscure sites first which at least for me works out rather nicely. When looking at the rest of the search experience I far prefer duckduckgo, the interface of it is much better than the madness that the google interface seems to have become at some point in the last few years and bangs have surprising been an absolute game changer in my workflow, just being able to type in an ! plus a few letters to search other sites directly is amazingly useful and alone would be enough to make me choose duckduckgo over other search engines google search or others. I can’t say I’m too impressed with many of the google translate alternatives, services oriented at specific markets like DeepL for German and a few other European languages, Yandex for Russian, Naver for Korean, etc work well for languages in their intended markets, but fall short for a more general purpose solution translations. The only one that I have found to be a real alternative is microsoft translate which works well, but at that point isn’t that much more private or open than google translate. Finally youtube wise I completely agree on the fact there isn’t a real alternative. RUclips has been around for quite a while now, all it’s competitor from the early days have either disappeared or become very niche and anything new that pops up can never over come the issues of the network effect and finances. But at the same time youtube is also a far more open platform than many of google’s other services and is very usable in a convenient semi-anonymous manner. Download most of what you watch thru youtube-dl (or newpipe on mobile) and use the website for discovery and comments in a container or separate browser.
I prefer HERE maps for mobile, since you can download the maps you want and use them offline which is far more responsive. It does the job for route finding and quickly finding your location.
I'm looking forward to a Linux phone too, maybe by the time a Fairphone 5 or 6 comes out they will be good enough. I've only ever had Linux on my laptop and am used to it, but I have only just got an old smartphone that I was given, having resisted one so far. However, I generally keep it switched off and wrapped in aluminium foil and rarely use it at all yet... I hate computers and mobile phones and life was definitely better in those halcyon days of the '80's before the internet and mobile phones took over our lives!
I'm cheap and I don't know much about audio/video. So instead of spending a bunch of money and trying to fix wobbly shots, I just said forget it and went with a GoPro Hero 8. Takes a pretty nice shot and I don't have to do anything in post except clean up the audio.
Yeah, that was a thought I had as well, Google stuff is sometimes part of a person's job, some companies use a google services dependent app for clocking in and if you're a RUclipsr you kinda work for google.
On your phone there is Newpipe and on a computer you have invidious, piped and others. You will be surprised what kind of things you miss out on once the algorithm no longer determines what you get to see, but it's strictly chronological.
I'm gonna de-google my current Pixel when I upgrade to the next budget Pixel (7a or whatever they call it... I gotta have my headphone jack :)). You are very BRAVE to put it on (or take it OFF) your main every day phone. Glad your sharing this here, it's something I will do someday I'm sure.
You can setup a different profile for the apps you really can't live without. Added benefit is that'll adds an extra barrier so you don't procrastinate easily
This has convinced me to get a degoogled phone. The android auto comments sealed the deal. When I personally refuse to own a car with android auto or apple car play, why would I still have google on my phone? I'm done
I'm fully intertwined in all Google services. I use a Pixel 3 XL chrome and all Google services you can think of. From maps to drive to Gmail you name it I use it.
Pretty much the same. I tried Lineage without any Google services. It really sucked big time. No synchronization of contacts, calendars, notes etc. No google maps was a big one. Even searching anything in web resulted in horrible hits etc. Gotta admit that Google has multiple great services. I couldn't do it for long. It was almost as bad as going from mobile phone to landline :)
My setup BlissOS Google Pico RUclips Google Voice Gmail Google Maps Google Play Games I won't install anything else Google unless required For now, I've finally managed the perfect CFW stable install of BlissOS and it's super Lineage is great too, but Bliss has some nice gaming tools like FPS and CPU Core monitors built into the OS never had a better Google experience. I'm with you on the Linux phone looking forward to it.
I run a rooted galaxy s10+ and I try and remove as many google apps as possible but there are some I still use. google home, play store and youtube are the only ones I allow. As for google maps, I substituted with HERE WeGo, which is a fairly decent app and worth checking out. Im about to update my phone and thinking about a custom ROM as well as complete degoogling. Samsung bloatware is almost as invasive as google bloatware IMO. The only problem is custom samsung decelopment has been severely delayed compared to other manufacturers due to the lengths they went into locking the bootloader/knox/etc...
Hm, I think how good Google Maps is depends on the country. You won't get much public transport information in my country with Google Maps. Also I would say OpenStreetMap might be better than Google Maps. Some info on Google Maps is just outdated since months that isn't outdated on OSM. Also for searching something more specific. Let's say I want to eat vegetarian kebab. Won't find that on any maps app anyways.
OSM is amazing, but you need a good app for searching and navigating using them. Pure Maps is nice on Sailfish and other mobile linuxes, but it isn't on Android. So what is a good way to use it on Android? OsmAnd?
The country thing down to, legal requirements mainly I live in Jersey and we don't have the Google Store unless you find somebody somewhere else for them to deliver too. All the big internet companies are not interested when the potential market is too small or to complicated and just doing nothing at all as simple than having to work out to work in these markets, I think one of the ways they figure out to give people a lesser service is, not providing via the ISP's IPv6 we had it and it's mostly going away again. IPv4 is making it easier to restrict things where they don't want people to have a full service.
You can still download the individual Google apps. I use Maps & youtube a lot. I also prefer Google saving my passwords in password manager as well as storing all my contacts as Google contacts. That way when I get a new phone, I don't have to have them transfer my contacts. But as of 1/1/21, when u get a new phone, they transfer almost everything back on ur new phone, not just contacts, (but ur Wallpaper, personal message on ur lock screen, texts, etc.). U still have to transfer music, pics, documents & videos through Bluetooth or a laptop/PC/tablet but no biggie.
Navigation is not the issue. A paper map and a compass would work just fine if not better. But, Google's ability to know where everyone else is can not be matched and this is the ultimate time saver. No other application can match Google Map's ability to monitor and reroute around time wasting problems like wrecks and construction. The way I see it, the smart thing to do is use the location services when needed and turn them off when privacy is needed. Perhaps having two devices is the best option. One device for critical communication that can be left on at all times without causing privacy issues. Another device for navigation in unfamiliar areas when time savings are critical that can be turned off, battery removed, and/or stuffed in a faraday bag when not needed.
I feel ya on the convenience part but 2 weeks is too short of a demo... it doesn't give you time to actually adapt your routine etc. for a fair comparison.
I wonder if you could get something like a virtual machine on your phone and only run the google apps from within that machine to isolate them from the rest of your phone.
At least Google has many useful products. Facebook is awful. If you deactivate your account for a few months you will realize that not only do you not miss it but you are happier for not wasting time on it.
You should do another video on the lineageos install and minimal Google services. Mobile is very interesting to a lot of people right now and I think alot of people would love to see it!!! Thank you! Love these videos =)
by the way a GREAT alternative to good keep is NextCloud Notes, I setup NC on my VPS and I just sync my photos and notes to that automatically. It's great.
The most important thing about focusing more on privacy and security is not to go too far such that your quality of life suffers. Google unfortunately is everywhere, so avoiding it completely requires you to really go out of your way. Looking forward to your experience with LineageOS.
With the latest attack on free speech and collusion by Apple, Google and Amazon to take down Parler, it makes me want something other than iOS or Android. Amazing how much the average consumer like myself is reliant and tied to these corporations and their services.
- You can still have a Google account. Get an email client like K9. - I haven't tried it, but I would think you could do RUclips fine. - I've played around with other mapping solutions and nothing beats Google Maps for being the most flexible, but Bing has better accuracy. The problem with Bing is you just traded masters. - Not having paid apps is not nice, rooted or not.
I think waze is better than google maps and apparently that works with degoogled phones. Also, only apple has real encrypted text messaging. Ya, you can use 3rd party text apps but try to get all your friends to use them.
just go lineage + microG, been using it as a daily driver for a year and everything works great. Mozilla or DejaVu as location backend. Google offline maps is pretty much the only thing not working. AdAway + AFwall+ if rooted, Blokada and/or Netguard if not. Carnet or Standard Notes for Google Keep, although Keep works fine with microG. DavX5 for Calendar and Contacts sync from Nextcloud. Aurora Store (anonymous sign-in) installed via F-Droid to get the Google Apps. Install Signal and Telegram from Aurora instead of their website or F-droid so they latch on to microG. Set up microG first thing so apps latch on to Google Cloud Messaging correctly, might bug out otherwise. Prey in case of theft. Wi-Fi Privacy Police from F-Droid.
100% correct on the google maps. I feel like I am in 2005. What I do is open a private browser and use google maps there to get the location. Then With the coordinates I can use OsmAnd to get there. I will never trade privacy and freedom for convenience ever again.
I was an apple guy but have completely lost my trust in apple. I'm nether supporting android or ios at the moment, can't wait for the Linux phone era!! I did jailbreak my iPhone and started digging inside of the file system. I'm busy seeing what I can disable without messing up other important stuff until the Linux phones are a viable option. The best thing now on a non jail broken iPhones is to use a firewall (lockdown on ios) and block all telemetry domains from apple and also apps making use of unnecessarily scripts and domains.
I think your experience exactly shows what is wrong with the situation. You ought to be able to use individual services (maps, youtube) without buying into a whole eco-system that installs things you don't need, tracks you etc. The problem is we collectively decided 20-some years ago that we preferred a "free" ad-driven web to paying for services. But I don't know how you put that genie back in the bottle.
Google is like sugar. It's bad for us, but it tastes good and it's everywhere. Hard to quit.
But i mean google is much worse than little sugar every once in a while
I can't quit you, Google.
@@dreamingrightnow1174 tell me which google apps you can't quit and i might give you other options
@@IAm-zo1bo It's YT, which I already use fake accounts in, but who am I kidding? And Google maps. I do a lot of real estate research, and use the navigator a lot. Also the Store. And I use very cheap android tracfone plan that I buy through hsn that cost $10/mo including the phone, lol.. I can't afford a $400 degoogled phone, but if I scraped that up, how would a carrier plan work anonymously?
@@dreamingrightnow1174 My phone is 300 dollars xiaomi phone which i installed LineagoOS which is degoogled as default. For youtube if you can sacrifice commenting on videos you can install newpipe (you can still store subsriptions and playlists but on your phone and not on an account), for maps you might find a different maps but i have google maps and it works without gapps except gps is weird
To me personally, none of those are cons.
Worth sacrificing. Not only that, it’s worth fighting against big tech. We have to be willing to give up our conveniences for the greater good.
EXACTLY! Just the principle alone! Why would you carry around a device that spies on you, commercializes you, and shares your data with anyone and everyone including intelligence agencies. You're literally walking around with a narc in your pocket. Google will use anything you use your phone for against you if they deem it necessary.
Agreed
People got softer by convenience.
- GoogleMaps, please take me to the restaurant.
"Yes, sir. Please follow this instructio..."
-Thanks GMaps that was very helpful, you can stop tracking now
"Hahah, no you silly"
why not just disable GPS when not using it ?
@@Flowxp Still, tHey cAN wAtCH YoU △
@@Flowxp Even when you turn location off, your location is known.
You should disable the option that keeps wifi active in the background. They also use a database with known wifi locations for tracking.
Constant wifi scanning means -location accuracy of 6ft... same as social distancing... coincidental... I am sure...
Handing over the ability to "UnPerson" you to a corporation that most recently has been working actively to "UnPerson" people they don't like for purely political reasons... is the only reason I need. I love Google/RUclips/FaceBook services but their corporations have proven themselves to be a direct threat to our American sense of freedom and free speech. I can live without the service, my liberty is worth more.
Well said. I’m with you and am in the process of degoogling.
lol america hates liberty and free speech
I have de-googled everything and I don't miss it at all
I could totally see that. I was surprised these were the only things I missed.
There are people that still doesn't use any digital maps for traveling. They just ask friends and in places when going somewhere.
I am one of those. india
@@Joe3D this is amazing
@Ray N did you flash your phone? Are you running a custom OS? NO, so that's degoogling your phone as described in this video.. basically if you have any Google apps on your phone then ya didn't degoogle it..
Best of luck
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Two phones like a dealer. Spare "burner" Google phone on the side for RUclips, maps and Android auto etc. Rest of the time privacy focused phone as daily driver?
Vanced youtube app and vanced google spoofer. No need for any other apps from google.
@@ThatGuy-vi8ch what is vanced ? Somekind of sandbox thingy?
@@drollio It acts sort of like a VPN but it's only designed for YT to work on degoogled phones. What it does is spoof your Google ID so they think it's you but it's not, it doesn't collect your real information. I only have a Google account for YT and I have to use this app to view YT on my phone. Otherwise I use the computer with a VPN.
@@ThatGuy-vi8ch You can also use something like videohunter or playon to record YT at home then watch saved videos offline. Cant watch brand new yt videos though
@@ThatGuy-vi8chvanced can work on phone with Google as well. What are you talking lol?
RUN from Google! Run form Apple. You will be safer in the end
yes
It’s only the beginning it will get better and life will be like watchdogs
@@isaacchase564 watch dogs is what would happen if everything was connected to the exact same network and there was pretty much no security
I used Symbian and meego Os up too 2017. Then I switched to BB10 up to 2019. I been safe from apple and google. I just bought android phone. And i feel like under surveillance 24/ 7. I'm ready to jump out. And get Linux Os.
@@realmoner Lol and yet, here you have commented from your YT account.
"What does it profit a man to gain the whole world yet forfeit his soul".
40, 60, 100, 200 years ago people lived just fine without google or cell phones. This is about sticking to the principle of one's natural human right to privacy.
Good point we are paying for all those free stuff Google has to offer. Life was better when the phone rang and you knew who was on the other end. Not anymore. You would think a new phone number would be free of all this non sense but not anymore. We had more privacy with a party line. And remember when we used letters in our phone numbers for the location. Times have deteriorated over the years.
kind of, the issue is that long time ago the level of efficacy and knowledge was not even close to now, therefore the collective opportunity of the man to access to knowledge and use it for good either.
Sanchez jibber jabber 👌
@@tribunation I have tons of google apps and I barely use them except RUclips and Google Chrome
How about 10 years ago.
GPS navigation was still primarily accomplished with dedicated devices until about 5 years ago.
can you do a video that compares lineage, graphene, /e/, other degoogled roms those are privacy oriented. thanks from now : )
Graphene will be the best of all those options. But yes, I will definitely make that video.
@@ChrisTitusTech thank you very much : )
@@ariloguecom Graphene is the way to go if you have a Pixel phone. /e/ provides a more out-of-the-box private experience than LineageOS, if your phone is supported. Lineage has the bigger list of supported devices, but is a more minimalistic approach.
@@lucasrampasso3428 my phone is motorola z2 play.graphene is not suitable for me i was stuck to choosing between /e/ and lineage. thanks for your reply : )
@@lucasrampasso3428 /e/ supports devices LineageOS dropped support.
Good review. De-googling my own phone and it helps to have a review like this. As I prefer using my cell phone as a phone with limited connectivity anyways and even google maps gets things horrendously wrong sometimes - I don't mind losing the invasive hooks that google likes to keep in us.
Taking a vigorous walk while talking about google. It makes it look like your detoxing lol.
Been ditching it all one day at time. Browser, search engine, maps, email, etc... I find baby steps is what made this the easiest thing for me.
Yes, you can't do it all at once really, it's better to find alt apps over time so you find the best ones that work for you. De-googling isn't a single event, it's an ongoing process everyday, and also gradually convincing family and friends to degoogle too without annoying then too much.
@@cactuskitty4257 I recommend the website Alternative To for your replacements it was recommended to me by the channel Techlore
You still seem to have YT account...
@@jothain can't win em all😂
@@kelvinrodriguezjr2184 I know, it's honestly easier said than done. Google services are imo very convenient for everyday usage 😊
This video is gold. Been wondering if i should degoogle my phone, i am going to do it right now
Worked a lot better than I thought it would. The things I pointed out in the video were more of nit pick things, and it is entirely possible to live without google. I just choose not to.
@@ChrisTitusTech im going to try it out for a few week, it is not going to hurt
@@ChrisTitusTech And I find this puzzling. For nit picking reasons you would rather sacrifice your privacy for very minor conveniences. Surely you can reply to RUclips comments (I guess I didn't realize just how important that is) on your computer when you are home. On the issue of Google maps then yeah, that's a difficult one to not have on your phone.
I did the same with Lineage OS (Redmi Note7) and the only thing i will miss out of quarintine is FB Messenger (to hang out with friends), Google Maps (as Chris stated before) and Didi (uber alternative, in my country it's cheaper) that sadly uses GServices.
The only alternative i can find is using MicroG, but i dont know if that's gonna affect battery life (it has lasted way LONG that my stock rom), i think Lineage has an option to ennable services only when opening the app, so i hope that just makes it.
@@TOMinPDX Like you mentioned, Google maps is great. Plus I once went Lineage without Google apps. I got all sorts of problems with various programs, it really friggin sucks to not to have any recommendations when browsing net. Then try to search for something maps related when you don't have location services and history. Yeah, good luck with getting good results. You should really try it before saying others that they nitpick.
After this rant, even more convinced one should de-google.
I have installed lineage OS too. Started thinking about google services and tracking in phone as a whole after watching this video. I'm lucky I don't have a car, or I don't live in a big city, so I don't really need maps or auto. Thanks for introducing this to me.
And if you do have a car , use navigation device in it , or another, older phone that works , only for the hat purposes …
@@cvekcvek Yes that makes sense, I have an LG G5 lying around half broken, I can probably use that. But it's impossible to own a car it where I live, there's a %200 tax for cars. Thanks for the idea though
@@glukglukglukgluk9994 must be nice not to have to drive but if you want to live where your neighbors are hundred's of feet away it's better to drive when you need to and stay home too. I'm a country person and love to travel but I don't need Google maps to tell me where I'm going. My Garmin GPS is good enough, the older models. The price was right at $10.00. 73
I have a car but never use it. Im used to that I use Maps on the phone, while driving.
You can go "old school" and ask people the way ☺️
Talking to real people?!
In my experience, most people are hopeless at describing directions.
So they pull it up in maps and tell you.
Manage RUclips engagements from Desktop, not the phone, therefore not requiring RUclips apps. Faster to type on real keyboard anyways.
Good evening Chris, I am a fan from South Africa. I really love your content 🙂
I am researching open source software (degoogling/demicrosofting/ de-controlled-deepstate-linked software in general.) The most surprising discovery I have made is how massive Peertube is but am still investigating it. Nice, honest review on your degoogling experience btw.
Yeah , red tube also
I appreciate these kinds of videos. It's one thing to complain about invasion of privacy. It's quite another to weigh this against the practical concerns, the convenience and the pros/cons.
I think Google does have a lot of great services - Maps, Translate, GMail, Drive, and so on. Maybe the practical solution is to have as little Google as possible.
Thanks, Chris!
I've lived my entire life without google maps (or any other kind of maps!), pretty sure i can handle the rest of it the same way :D
Right. We lived very happy lives before cell phones, for that matter. Use your gray matter, folks!
Going to start telling people, if you don't tell me how to get your house, I'm not coming over.
And texting me your address doesn't count.
Time to resurrect road the road atlas!
@@HilaryB. I stop and ask directions ...radical behaviour for a guy, I know but it works! who knew?! :p
@@Tokinjester true lol! For longer journeys though, I've planned many with a road atlas.
Couple of points: the sucky thing about de-Googling and de-coupling from other major players, is that sometimes there is a cost involved. For example, I'm using two apps that I'd recommend to replace a few of the apps you mentioned and those are: Automagic and Tasker (and one other I'll mention later). These two apps are, last I looked, five and eight bucks respectively; they are apps that allow you to program functionality into your phone that many other apps can do. Automagic has a literal flowchart style way of programming what they call "flows" but I haven't used that one much. I have more experience with Tasker. For example, I have placed a few radii over spots on a map of movie theaters in my town I regularly go to, and when my phone detects I'm in one of those spots, it will automatically turn my phone to vibrate mode; in essence, I don't ever have to remind myself to turn my phone off when in a movie theater. Simple, yet I really like it. Same with calendar appointments: as long as I put an appointment into my calendar, Tasker will turn my phone to vibrate mode during the allotted appointment time.
Both of these apps can also utilize pretty much every sensor the phone has -- the acclerometer can detect if it's going faster than say, six miles an hour, thus turning the phone into automotive mode, or whatever. There are a lot of ideas floating around on the net regarding clever things that other people have done with Tasker and Automagic; they can be quite sophisticated, really. Sensing whether or not the phone is face up or down, what time of day, light levels, pretty much everything and no need to root the phone either.
I never found a dialer app which worked for me for a long time, so I wrote my own whitelist. Any incoming call that is not on my contacts list will automatically go to voicemail. You can easily program Tasker to assign different ringtones to different numbers or texts; sure, many apps can do that now, but it's nice for me to have that level of control.
My current phone is a Galaxy S8, but I'm pretty sure it will work with more current kernels.
The last I will mention is a mapquest-type app called Navigon. It's from a German company, I think, and it was the most expensive one at around $40 US. However, I tried about six or seven different map apps and this one was the best supported for both US and European maps which can be downloaded and used off-line; which again, was far better than Google maps or Drive a few years ago. Maybe Google maps I think you can now download map sections buuuutttt... it's still using google services. Navigon also has some other paid services which Google does not have and I have found it to be up to date enough map-wise that it hadn't ever been an issue. But YMMV and all that...
but why would you degoogle your phone and start using a bunch of proprietary apps?
Sounds like Google has REALLY mastered the art of making Google addicting and convenient to want it in our gadgets!! There will be plenty of spoof apps that do the same thing as google on Linux!! 😉 We have to get around the big Tech trying to keep there hand in our personal lives!! 🤘
You have to agree to their terms of service before you are even informed what some of their apps actually do.
I love & use Linux on 2 laptops (2012 MBP and Framework) but I yet to see a usuable Linux phone as a daily driver. If you are aware of one, I'm interested. I know about the Libre 5 and Pinephone..
The Google itself isn't a problem, the problem is that with their enormous capital, they basically killed all competitions almost everywhere and only other big tech can compete with them.
Wait. Can't you simply open RUclips in a browser and access everything that way? I do it all the time, and the only thing it's not capable of doing without Google Services is "casting".
I have been wishing for years there was a phone more like a PC. Where it comes as bare hardware with no OS at all, and you could download an iso and install any os flavor you want. No worries about rooting or unlocking bootloaders or downloading a limited selection of custom roms from forums since they only work on certain phones. No update headaches. Just let me install the OS I want and run updates like on a pc.
🎯✌.
my approach is fairphone 3 and /e/ OS.
I use computer for my youtube channel and NewPipe for watching videos,
F-droid + Aurora store for apps and malicious apps,
i don't use maps or android auto
I'm heavily looking into ditching google but I am newbie :)
Would love more content on this.
Your channel is great!
Which phone do you have?
@@ovietb did you mean to reply to me?
Maybe install LineageOS with microG first, then you'll decide if you want to go further or not.
buy a iodé phone?
I grew up and worked for 20 years selling on the road in Kentucky, Tennessee and Virginia with no phone and had nothing but a map and a pay phone. People have gotten away from stopping and asking for directions and making friends out there.
I don't know what maps app you used, but I really like OsmAnd. Its routing is slow af on 200km+ distances, but other than that it does everything I want. It also has most POIs incluing opening hours.
The only thing that made me go back to GAPPs (after 8 months, mind you) was college.
The best solution is to use /e/ from e foundation. It is an OS made for privacy and it is totally degoogled. It still let's you use android apps, and you can even install RUclips or other Google apps if you wish so.
You can still get notifications thanks to MicroG which is integrated in /e/
Maps app in /e/ is one of the best maps app and works better than OSMAnd
I think that Waze is a great substitute for Google Maps. Both projects under the development of Google Corporation and provide similar accurate results. Moreover, Waze doesn't require Google services. So it may be possible to use Waze as an great alternative for de-googled phone.
In Malaysia Waze is far more popular, useful and accurate than Google maps
Probably the most stabilized RUclips video 👍
How did you do it ?
3-axis gimbal ?
Built-in camera stabilization ?
Video editing software ?
Please explain 👍
Susan wajoozski would like to know your location.
Hehe, Susan already knows and would never ask. 😂
You should try Calyx OS, it's kind of like Graphene but with microG, so you still can use Google services in a safer way
Walking in a neighborhood without a mask, enjoying uncensored free speech, and having no fear of being attacked by antifa or BLM.... ahhhh the good ole days.
Based
Convenience over privacy? I grew up in a time when Americans not only expected their privacy but demanded it. What was really disturbing and shocking is how quickly Americans gave up their privacy.
On Android phones I normally install lineage os then use micro G. Although I have my Pinephone now, so I'm abandoning Android lol
@Fine Wine Flashing CalyxOS for the first time on my 3a tonight. Looking forward to it!
@@uncommonsenseU more annoymonus then you would be with GAPPS but using Gmail does take away a bit of privacy. There are other Gmail alternatives that don't require GAPPS and use your Gmail can account. I personally recommend Proton Mail though which is an entirely different service that's encrypted and doesn't use your Gmail account.
@@techwizz- I second Proton Mail. I've switched to that and am slowly forwarding all bills and other accounts over to that to get away from Google for good. I imagine the last thing to go will be RUclips. I can do without literally everything else they offer, but so far all the other apps like YT just don't have enough content yet.
@@IAmSuperStick Nice! Yeah I hope I can go away from RUclips sometime soon as well.
@@IAmSuperStick I was watching Techlore's review of GrapheneOS and he mentioned something called Newpipe, which is an alternative to youtube. It is youtube, and has all the videos youtube has, it's just privacy focused. idk what exactly is different about it, but watch a video on it and check it out
You got stuck in traffic and you survived!
When are poeple going to stop referring to their tracking devices as phones?
Hey, if you're willing to give up just a little privacy instead of all of it for the sake of convenience, I recommend micro g.
That's what I'm doing and it has been great!
It works on lineage perfectly
HERE maps is a great alternative for Gmaps, depends their maps quality for your area.
You can use Waze. It doesn't require Google services.
Check Startpage search engine, it gives the same results with Google.
I'm trying to port postmarketOS to my phone.
There is a actively developed youtube client which is just better youtube. It even supports the latest versions.
It also has it own google services (microG) app.
I rather like Android Auto... I use the services of our overlord too often.
You and I both Dave
@@ChrisTitusTech
Yeah, there is a certain point where I think: who cares what they do with my data? they have a million other users to track.
@@arunthebuffoon4554 What about when they start coming after people because of their beliefs, they could be tracking a billion people but it's still easy to single out one person and affect them. Privacy always matters.
@@cactuskitty4257 finally, someone gets it, sheesh
RUclips Vanced works perfectly, with comments and everything plus you can remove shorts and get background playback.
The "problem" with Google is that they have great products that everybody uses, and there is no alternative. Like Google search - yeah, there is DuckDuckGo, but it gives a whole other search experience, and while I find everything on Google in the first 5 lresults, well, not on DuckDuckGo, and I tried. Google Maps is superior - yes, there is OpenStreetMap, but Google Maps has SO MUCH user input too, that OSM simply doesn't. For navigation, there is also no real alternative with live traffic support. Waze is Google too... And RUclips, it has no alternative. All the other stuff has some great alternatives (Drive, Docs, Keep, Calendar, Contacts, Gmail, Photos), yet if you used them and want to change, you have to give up connectivity between those. And Google Apps is an ecosystem, and it's great. De-Googleing means everything gets segmented.
Why not just use RUclips on a browser? I don't know if the experience is as good as in the app though.
youtube has an alternative is called LBRY
you've been assimilated by The Google Machine. there is no return.
I agree with you on the maps side openstreetmaps just has less info a lot of the time, I have personally made the compromise of simply using other proprietary maps services (a combination of here WeGo and tomtom), as for other services however I would say it’s not so clear cut.
I have never really had a need for calendar, contacts or gmail as these services aren’t unique to google in any meaningful way and have widely available open standard alternatives.
Drive, docs, keep, photos and the rest of these cloud services made to replace local applications don’t fit into my workflow as I prefer to keep my files on a local server and edit documents, manage notes and photos, etc locally.
Search engine wise I was extremely uncertain when I made the switch around 3 years back, but just as Oğuzhan İçelliler has already pointed out english results at least have been perfectly useable and in fact at times preferable as duckduckgo seems to favour giving results from services like wikipedia over more obscure sites first which at least for me works out rather nicely. When looking at the rest of the search experience I far prefer duckduckgo, the interface of it is much better than the madness that the google interface seems to have become at some point in the last few years and bangs have surprising been an absolute game changer in my workflow, just being able to type in an ! plus a few letters to search other sites directly is amazingly useful and alone would be enough to make me choose duckduckgo over other search engines google search or others.
I can’t say I’m too impressed with many of the google translate alternatives, services oriented at specific markets like DeepL for German and a few other European languages, Yandex for Russian, Naver for Korean, etc work well for languages in their intended markets, but fall short for a more general purpose solution translations. The only one that I have found to be a real alternative is microsoft translate which works well, but at that point isn’t that much more private or open than google translate.
Finally youtube wise I completely agree on the fact there isn’t a real alternative. RUclips has been around for quite a while now, all it’s competitor from the early days have either disappeared or become very niche and anything new that pops up can never over come the issues of the network effect and finances. But at the same time youtube is also a far more open platform than many of google’s other services and is very usable in a convenient semi-anonymous manner. Download most of what you watch thru youtube-dl (or newpipe on mobile) and use the website for discovery and comments in a container or separate browser.
I prefer HERE maps for mobile, since you can download the maps you want and use them offline which is far more responsive. It does the job for route finding and quickly finding your location.
i love how you all do these experiments and usually when I try to do stuff like that, I mostly fail
nice review!
I'm looking forward to a Linux phone too, maybe by the time a Fairphone 5 or 6 comes out they will be good enough. I've only ever had Linux on my laptop and am used to it, but I have only just got an old smartphone that I was given, having resisted one so far. However, I generally keep it switched off and wrapped in aluminium foil and rarely use it at all yet... I hate computers and mobile phones and life was definitely better in those halcyon days of the '80's before the internet and mobile phones took over our lives!
I miss my old N900 and for the last few years I've missed it terribly.
I have never had a Smartphone because of privacy issues, now i am thinking of actually getting one with grapheneOS.
Thank you for this Vid!
Image quality on this video is great. What are you using for this?
I'm cheap and I don't know much about audio/video. So instead of spending a bunch of money and trying to fix wobbly shots, I just said forget it and went with a GoPro Hero 8. Takes a pretty nice shot and I don't have to do anything in post except clean up the audio.
Yeah, that was a thought I had as well, Google stuff is sometimes part of a person's job, some companies use a google services dependent app for clocking in and if you're a RUclipsr you kinda work for google.
We all need a youtube alternative.
I know this was three months ago but for anyone reading this try RUclips vanced
I know this was three months ago but for anyone reading this try RUclips vanced. Not really an alternative though
On your phone there is Newpipe and on a computer you have invidious, piped and others. You will be surprised what kind of things you miss out on once the algorithm no longer determines what you get to see, but it's strictly chronological.
Use a custom ROM with microg. Learning curve is not for the faint of heart, but you can use the google services you mention and maintain privacy.
Cant you run google maps through a browser?
I'm gonna de-google my current Pixel when I upgrade to the next budget Pixel (7a or whatever they call it... I gotta have my headphone jack :)). You are very BRAVE to put it on (or take it OFF) your main every day phone. Glad your sharing this here, it's something I will do someday I'm sure.
Try Osmand, great google maps alternative. And if it won't work for you, there is magic earth. This one proprietary tho
Yeah I was using Osmand, but it just wasn't as good for me.
You could use Waze maps. It works without gapps.
Leave RUclips and go to Rumble.
Ironically enough, the app doesn't work on de-Googled phones. Not on mine, at least.
@@discomikeyboy2012 incredible!
You can setup a different profile for the apps you really can't live without. Added benefit is that'll adds an extra barrier so you don't procrastinate easily
I think there is an Google Maps Progressive web app, but haven't tried it.Could work.
This has convinced me to get a degoogled phone. The android auto comments sealed the deal. When I personally refuse to own a car with android auto or apple car play, why would I still have google on my phone? I'm done
I'm fully intertwined in all Google services. I use a Pixel 3 XL chrome and all Google services you can think of. From maps to drive to Gmail you name it I use it.
Pretty much the same. I tried Lineage without any Google services. It really sucked big time. No synchronization of contacts, calendars, notes etc. No google maps was a big one. Even searching anything in web resulted in horrible hits etc. Gotta admit that Google has multiple great services. I couldn't do it for long. It was almost as bad as going from mobile phone to landline :)
My setup
BlissOS
Google Pico
RUclips
Google Voice
Gmail
Google Maps
Google Play Games
I won't install anything else Google unless required
For now, I've finally managed the perfect CFW stable install of BlissOS and it's super
Lineage is great too, but Bliss has some nice gaming tools like FPS and CPU Core monitors built into the OS
never had a better Google experience. I'm with you on the Linux phone looking forward to it.
Go with microg now.
I run a rooted galaxy s10+ and I try and remove as many google apps as possible but there are some I still use. google home, play store and youtube are the only ones I allow. As for google maps, I substituted with HERE WeGo, which is a fairly decent app and worth checking out. Im about to update my phone and thinking about a custom ROM as well as complete degoogling. Samsung bloatware is almost as invasive as google bloatware IMO. The only problem is custom samsung decelopment has been severely delayed compared to other manufacturers due to the lengths they went into locking the bootloader/knox/etc...
Hm, I think how good Google Maps is depends on the country.
You won't get much public transport information in my country with Google Maps.
Also I would say OpenStreetMap might be better than Google Maps. Some info on Google Maps is just outdated since months that isn't outdated on OSM.
Also for searching something more specific. Let's say I want to eat vegetarian kebab. Won't find that on any maps app anyways.
OSM is amazing, but you need a good app for searching and navigating using them. Pure Maps is nice on Sailfish and other mobile linuxes, but it isn't on Android.
So what is a good way to use it on Android? OsmAnd?
If you are in India it sucks 🤣🤣
The country thing down to, legal requirements mainly I live in Jersey and we don't have the Google Store unless you find somebody somewhere else for them to deliver too. All the big internet companies are not interested when the potential market is too small or to complicated and just doing nothing at all as simple than having to work out to work in these markets, I think one of the ways they figure out to give people a lesser service is, not providing via the ISP's IPv6 we had it and it's mostly going away again. IPv4 is making it easier to restrict things where they don't want people to have a full service.
Yeah, just ask to people. The old good way.
In Israel, waze rules for driving and moveit for all other xport - even shows u whr ur bus is.
You can still download the individual Google apps. I use Maps & youtube a lot. I also prefer Google saving my passwords in password manager as well as storing all my contacts as Google contacts. That way when I get a new phone, I don't have to have them transfer my contacts. But as of 1/1/21, when u get a new phone, they transfer almost everything back on ur new phone, not just contacts, (but ur Wallpaper, personal message on ur lock screen, texts, etc.). U still have to transfer music, pics, documents & videos through Bluetooth or a laptop/PC/tablet but no biggie.
1:54 Then how are you going to know when there's someone at the door?
2:46 How about Waze?
1. You don't
2. Works great, but is owned by Google.
For this experiment, I wanted to never touch a single google server.
Looks like we’re all gonna be owned by google in the end
@@anon3308 yeah in the last book in the bible warn us about mark of the beast.
@@ChrisTitusTech Did You Try OsmAnd+ via F-Droid?
@@ChrisTitusTech If you don't want to be notified if there's someone at your door, then how will you know if there's someone there?
Navigation is not the issue. A paper map and a compass would work just fine if not better. But, Google's ability to know where everyone else is can not be matched and this is the ultimate time saver. No other application can match Google Map's ability to monitor and reroute around time wasting problems like wrecks and construction. The way I see it, the smart thing to do is use the location services when needed and turn them off when privacy is needed. Perhaps having two devices is the best option. One device for critical communication that can be left on at all times without causing privacy issues. Another device for navigation in unfamiliar areas when time savings are critical that can be turned off, battery removed, and/or stuffed in a faraday bag when not needed.
“How I de googled my phone “
Brought to you by google®️ maps
😃
You forgot to add - On Google RUclips 😂😀
I feel ya on the convenience part but 2 weeks is too short of a demo... it doesn't give you time to actually adapt your routine etc. for a fair comparison.
My privacy ends where conveneince starts
I personally have activated all Google services and I am so happy, I don't care about my privacy I have nothing to hide
Man please do more video walking, im thinking on your health, joke ... i like the paisage!
I wonder if you could get something like a virtual machine on your phone and only run the google apps from within that machine to isolate them from the rest of your phone.
Google & Facebook have us addicted.
We're caught in a trap, we can't get out, because
we love them too much baby. 🎵 🎵
At least Google has many useful products. Facebook is awful. If you deactivate your account for a few months you will realize that not only do you not miss it but you are happier for not wasting time on it.
You should do another video on the lineageos install and minimal Google services. Mobile is very interesting to a lot of people right now and I think alot of people would love to see it!!! Thank you! Love these videos =)
2 weeks with a deGoogled phone and you are making a video on youtube!?!?
you still remeber that youtube belongs to google right!?!?
yeah, and what's your point?
Uhhh..did it occur to you he used his home computer to upload and post the video you just watched and his cell phone had nothing to do with it?
by the way a GREAT alternative to good keep is NextCloud Notes, I setup NC on my VPS and I just sync my photos and notes to that automatically. It's great.
The most important thing about focusing more on privacy and security is not to go too far such that your quality of life suffers. Google unfortunately is everywhere, so avoiding it completely requires you to really go out of your way.
Looking forward to your experience with LineageOS.
same here chris. and i don't miss any thing except google search sometimes
That thumbnail though...
I started just grabbing stills from inside the videos instead of shooting them separate. Click through rate has doubled lol
With the latest attack on free speech and collusion by Apple, Google and Amazon to take down Parler, it makes me want something other than iOS or Android. Amazing how much the average consumer like myself is reliant and tied to these corporations and their services.
under the new Marxist leader coup, you'll need to use that phone.
Exactly what I am thinking. Just ordered me a Pixel 4XL and will load GrapheneOS on it. Will re-teach myself of simplifying my life...
Lmfao y'all are unreal
Can you install youtube vanced on graphine os? I'm using RUclips vanced right now and i really like it
Magic Earth is a great alternative too to replace Google Maps
- You can still have a Google account. Get an email client like K9.
- I haven't tried it, but I would think you could do RUclips fine.
- I've played around with other mapping solutions and nothing beats Google Maps for being the most flexible, but Bing has better accuracy. The problem with Bing is you just traded masters.
- Not having paid apps is not nice, rooted or not.
I used to use an app for navigation called CoPilot GPS and another called Sygic. Just FYI. Thanks for the vid Chris.
What are you using today, for your phone?
I think waze is better than google maps and apparently that works with degoogled phones. Also, only apple has real encrypted text messaging. Ya, you can use 3rd party text apps but try to get all your friends to use them.
RUclips and maps can be opened in any web browser
just go lineage + microG, been using it as a daily driver for a year and everything works great. Mozilla or DejaVu as location backend. Google offline maps is pretty much the only thing not working.
AdAway + AFwall+ if rooted, Blokada and/or Netguard if not. Carnet or Standard Notes for Google Keep, although Keep works fine with microG. DavX5 for Calendar and Contacts sync from Nextcloud. Aurora Store (anonymous sign-in) installed via F-Droid to get the Google Apps. Install Signal and Telegram from Aurora instead of their website or F-droid so they latch on to microG. Set up microG first thing so apps latch on to Google Cloud Messaging correctly, might bug out otherwise. Prey in case of theft. Wi-Fi Privacy Police from F-Droid.
Try Here we go maps. Even offline maps works ;)
AdAway is fantastic. So much so that Google banned it (they're not big on adblockers that block THEIR ads). Still on F-Droid, though!
100% correct on the google maps. I feel like I am in 2005. What I do is open a private browser and use google maps there to get the location. Then With the coordinates I can use OsmAnd to get there. I will never trade privacy and freedom for convenience ever again.
Aurora Store and YT Vanced. That's it.
RUclips Vanced is a modded YT client with MicroG for login.
you can still use micro g alternative to google services. so you should use caylx os instead of lineage os
alternative of google map will be using google map as PWA or using Here we go. and use youtube venced it has full you tube experience
I was an apple guy but have completely lost my trust in apple. I'm nether supporting android or ios at the moment, can't wait for the Linux phone era!! I did jailbreak my iPhone and started digging inside of the file system. I'm busy seeing what I can disable without messing up other important stuff until the Linux phones are a viable option. The best thing now on a non jail broken iPhones is to use a firewall (lockdown on ios) and block all telemetry domains from apple and also apps making use of unnecessarily scripts and domains.
I think your experience exactly shows what is wrong with the situation. You ought to be able to use individual services (maps, youtube) without buying into a whole eco-system that installs things you don't need, tracks you etc. The problem is we collectively decided 20-some years ago that we preferred a "free" ad-driven web to paying for services. But I don't know how you put that genie back in the bottle.