2020 Kawasaki KX450F - FIRST RIDE Impressions!
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
- Today we're checking out the brand new 2020 Kawasaki KX450F and going over my initial thoughts on the bike! Make sure you subscribe and stay tuned so you don't miss my other 2020 450 reviews.
Also check out Michael Lindsay's channel for more info on the new 450s.
Michael's channel - / @michaellindsay
@JeffWalker84
I have a kx450f 2020 and i like the bike like i never had another one before i think its the best bike that i ever had and i only ride deep sand tracks from belgium
My dad has one of these bikes and he said the same thing
Your reviews are 100 times better than magazines for me. They are simple, concise and direct.
Lol I’m not that good so to me if the bike moves it’s good
CrazyCarter fuckin ate brother
That bike won multiple shootouts last year with the same set up......???????? Weird you had those first impressions
Lots of pro riders run that monster on stock lmao.. Supercross and "Trails racer"... Weird...
I loveeee mine. I've rode most everything new recently and I still would pick the kx over any of the other models that i have rode. just my opinion tho.
I’m 6’3 and 260lbs geared up. I rode this bike stock for a year, then did a complete overhaul on the suspension and put taller bars on. 100% different bike, it’s completely confidence inspiring. I love that you can mount the bars farther forward on the bike and drop the foot pegs a half inch. I agree with you though, you need to be put some money into it to tap into its true potential.
Less flapping more brapping 👌
Plz stop
Youre 100% right with the suspension and bars. But the bike is sick now and with those fixes im glad i didnt spend the extra $3000 on a husky or ktm... Even though theyre pretty sick too lol
Glad to hear that! It's a bummer Kawasaki chooses to set their bike up that way from the factory. It has so much potential!
@@JeffWalker84 hey Jeff my dad likes a real stable front end on a bike, he wants it to stay straight in braking and acceleration bumps and doesn't want it to get a headshake. I have a 2018 kx450f, a 2010 yz250, and I've ridden test rides of all the 2019 yz's, 125, 250f, 250, and 450. I've also ridden a friends 2018 KTM 125. They all ride similar in my opinion, I never get head shakes and it stays stable. I haven't rode any modern cr's or rm's so I don't know how they compare to the rest. I also have a 2003 kx250 and it rides similar to all the bikes I mentioned I've ridden, but I'd say without a doubt it rides the most different and the front end is the least stable. In your opinion where would you rank these from most stable to least stable front end. And would you place it there mainly because of the stock bars (bad or uncomfortable bend) or because of the chassis and fork setup, etc.
Is it really that much more? Saw hondas at a dealership and it was only an $800 difference btwn the honda 450 and husky 450, and i thought all Japanese bikes were around the same $
..and another couple thousand to fix the crappy air shocks
@@ryanmiller9713 depends on when and where you buy the bike but yea... Ktm and husky was At least a minimum of $2000 more than the kawi at dealerships around my area.
Jwalk: its a really weird bike i feel not to good.
He trow massive whip at the first lap 😂 jeff u are a monster 🔥🔥🔥😁
Love my 2k18 Kx250f
because you are not used to other bikes, if you would try KTM or Yamaha you would've be blown away
My 2015 250f is perfect
Grin Beatz no Ktm is shit
the grips kill my hands by the end of the day, using single, or dual layer palmed gloves. Getting the grips off the Kawasaki's require a small bomb, lol. or to razor them off, and grind the remaining pieces off. if your replacing the bars, that takes care of the left grip, and for the throttle grip, I'd recommend Motion Pro' s Titan Throttle Tube ("offer a Lifetime Limited Warranty").
I will have to try adding oil to the forks. I actually thought they were too stiff. I commented on Michael Lindsay's video, and he commented back, they're too soft, so they blow through the initial stroke and goes right to the mid where it stiffens up (which you, Jeff) said yourself being too soft.
The bars, I've always run stock. Never wanted to try different bend, in case I didn't like them, and it'd just be wasted money.
As for the 1-1/8" fat bars, I didn't want to bother with the oversized mounts as well.
Do you (or anybody) notice more or less feedback, less vibration with oversized since there's no crossbar and the may flex more??
Well when your 5'7 like me you would love a Kawasaki. I've tried the ktm and did not like how it felt about the the Kawasaki
it's kinda funny to see these bikes in US. Here in Brazil, it's basically impossible to have a crf250r, kxf, yzf because their price (We only have the options of crf230 and the 250f). Buy a bike like this in Brazil is the same think that buy the same bike in US costing more than $50,000 dollars.
@Jeff Walker Dude Your On Mx Nation! WOW unbelieveable that your on there! CONGRATS!
Can you make a video on small things that can make a difference to feel better on a bike? ive change the bars and put risers on it due to me being 6'1, but i am just not completely comfortable... i had a complete rebuild on the suspension but i just cant figure out what makes me feel iffy on it? i have a 2018 kx250f.
Get rid of the risers 1st, note jeffs attack position as he is taller as well.
I'm 6'7 and have always found that risers and tall seats just mess up the egos and handling for me. I'd look at finding the most comfortable bend of bar and finding the right position to put them in. Lower footpegs might help free up the cockpit as well.
Been here since 500 subs keep it up crazy to see how fast your channel grew!!
I'm six foot and I'm glad you mentioned something about the bars I track raced my 20 as a stock 450 and it did felt more towards the back of the bike I switched my bars put tune and pipe with new bars and it's alright now
I’ve always liked Honda’s and Suzuki’s. Seem to be the most comfortable overall throughout the years.
I have a 2020 im 6/4 and 220 pounds its the best bike ive ever had love how comfy it is all stock but bars footpegs with comfort wise love the suspension best bike ever go buy one everybody 🤙
Is the front end feel really that bad(do you ever had a feel that you lose front in corners?)
@@denis_p.4213 I've ridden a stock 2019 off the showroom floor and I felt it cornered very good. I couldn't get the front end to slide out on me at all.
They are a good bike scene they come out with this bike it has won most of the shoot out it been in
Yeah the 2019 had the same bar and clutch issue as well!
This is why I'd rather keep my 2016 and upgrade it rather than buy a newer year.
I loved my kx 80 big wheel in 1999 after that bike it's been CR from then on oh and one ktm I sold two months after I had it,it was around the time everyone was transitioning from 2-stroke or 4-stroke I just couldn't do it I stayed loyal to two stroke for as long as I could hold out, I finally broke lol
i see you at cahuilla all the time love the vids
U deserve so many more subscribers
Love these vids 🔥🔥🔥
Keep up the great work love your vids of the first ride
the first thing you talked about, the handlebars. Isnt there 2 options on the triple clamp for just that reason ? one in the back so the handlebars is closer to the bike and one further away ? I have a 2019 kx250 and on my bike it´s there. Its my first Kawasaki and I love it big time! Havent tried to " front" position on the triple clamp tho but it sounds like it can make you tilt the handlebars backwards like you did and still have your body in a neutral position.! Great Vid !
Hopefully since ML bought these bikes, maybe we can get the bugs worked out with them and re-rack them. This whole review was pretty much jinxed by a 40$ set of bars. Nobody rides a bike with stock bars. Hope you come back for the Re-rack
Those are insanely tall ape hangers? Lol. Play with some vintage bikes and you'll encounter some genuinely insane bars. When I bought my Maico I had to replace the bars because the ones it had before were FIVE INCHES taller than I wanted them to be. Or grab something from the early '70s and you might find the bars are whole no-shit 12 inches wider than anything you've ridden before. It's nuts. People had weird theories about ergos back in the day.
Honda works fanboys should check out the Keeferinc KX 450 mods.. this bike is a baseline and is easily made better than straight out of the box testing.. the kawi runs the same front spring as the Honda, they also use the same handlebar bend. New Honda’s are having ecu issues
When i initially went to go buy a new bike in April of this year I sat on the 19 Kx 450 first and didn’t feel comfortable on it at all and that was just on the showroom floor I couldn’t imagine how I’d feel on the track with it and the other thing that was a real deal breaker to me other than the comfort issues was the enormous Pipe that was almost fully exposed and it was a big eye sore to me especially when you put a pricey exhaust on it and you lay it down and it completely ruins the look of the pipe. Needless to say I went with a Honda. Not bashing Kawasaki they are great bikes just not for me
40$ set of bars would have fixed it
Don't know if you will see this - but I am curious where the rest of these "2020 450 FIRST RIDE Impressions!" series are?? I see this (KX - #5), the RM (#6), and the Husky (#4)... But that's it... I would love to see where you ranked the KTM, the CR, and especially the YZ... I plan to buy one of these in 2021, and was hoping you could link the other 3 that I cannot find on your channel page???... Thanks!
Congrats on making it on MX nation!!!!
Totally Agree! Nice Video 🔥👌
Have they herd of moving thins around on the bars and you can put things below the cross bar to like the fat bars
You can get a different tunner for the low end
Very good info, thanks.
So when are you getting a factory contract again?
@John I don't think so, still a young racer don't count him out yet, just saying motor on.
Hey, Jeff I love the videos. I have a problem when I ride and my hands get so tired I can’t even hold the bike anymore. Any advise? Maybe pillow top grips?
I was not a fan of that bikes setup ended up wading up at southwick at the kawi dealer day. Ended up dislocating my shoulder an broken humerus ruined my season😭
MX Dad hahahahahahahahha idiot
I was wondering what watch do you use ?
Next bike I'm hoping is either kx or Honda. I want a good handling bike that corners well. How would you compare the two. Positives and negatives if any lol
Take the holeshot assist button off, it serves no purpose. Get it sprung for you, change to sx bend handlebars, move forks up 2mm, set sag to 105, then go ride it. It’ll change your mind. I think it feels very Honda-ish.
That’s what I said man! Make some changes to these shootout, “Rules.” Michael is just complacent because he did it this way for 6 years with Vital.
Good review, thoughts on 2020 kz250f?
I wana see you test the tms
EVER THINK OF SWAPPING OVER THE TRACTION CONTROLE BUTTON TO THE LEFT, SO IT SAT NEXT TO THE ENGINE STOP BUTTON? That way you can move the clutch lever. look at the gap on 7:57 Bet the Mechanic did not think of that. I swear by Kawasaki. Hondas brake, KTM and Huski are the same in the end and are way over priced for what they are. Jeff your comfortable on the Honda, that's why you got another one. Im just not a believer in shoot outs.
Some of the electrical component wiring is bound together, preventing you from doing that. I suppose you could unwrap the electrical tape and re-wrap it once you have it where you want it though.
@@JeffWalker84 that's it 👍🙂👍 small little things that could be changed.
I have been watching you for close to a year now and I can see why you love Honda. Hopefully your SX season will be awesome.
Keep it up Jeff! Good opinion based content when a vid comes up. And don’t feed the trolls haha.
Hey Jeff do you think the Suzuki chassis and suspension feels better than the kawi?
Kawasaki KXF450 2020 Height Friendlt edition
Hi Jeff,
Thanks for the review, i have kx450 2019, I am 6ft 1, what bars do you recommend given you are same height?
Thanks
Jeff Walker are you going to riding a bike backed By possibly Michael Lindsay?
I like how he puts the Bike last on his list but he stills looks super fast and is way faster then any of us😂 like if u agree
So sick! 🤘🏽
Kawi's have always squatted in the back.
Is it going to change your mind if one bike is one second faster on a lap...Buy the bike that feels good to you or what the dealership is giving a good deal on...i've heard that these guys are paid to say which bike to pick anyway...i picked the 2020 kx450 cause kawasaki had a deal on them
What advice would you give to a teenager getting started in racing
Hey man u made a red bull video! Wow!
I have a klx 140r f 2021
Are you related to Dylan Walker from Ohio he is a pro also
Didn’t feel comfortable on it all but hey here’s a tail whip off jumps lol
Now I feel like he’s saying he’s a taller guy on purpose😂
I may have snuck one in there for the memes haha
Jeff Walker I just ordered a t shirt👀
My man
14:00 straight talking 😅
What's the best bike for shorter guys ik like your one to ask but I'm on the shorter side and I want a bike I can really be comfortable on
Honda
@@snowpirate1619 I'll look Into it
If it’s comfort you want, the Yamaha is the way to go
Yamaha is a good bike for shorter guys. The distance between the pegs and the top of the seat is very short compared to other bikes, and the suspension is on the softer side.
@@JeffWalker84 dude thanks soooo much for replying I heard the Yamaha was better for shorter guys but I was still on the fence about it thanks so much
The exhaust is too big thats what makes the bike ugly,however i have recoverd from a broken radius would you recommend a wirst brace? Mint videos by the way!
connor cassidy I think Ken Roczen has one. I would recommend it so you don’t put to much stress on it.
I think if it's your left arm, then a wrist brace would be a no-brainer since you don't have to work the throttle. However, wearing a brace on your right wrist may cause some difficulty. Maybe a quarter-turn throttle tube would be a good answer if you need to run a brace on your right wrist?
Jeff Walker thanks it's my right wrist👍🏼
I got a tank top and case it is very good
thanks for the support man!! Glad you like them
Cool vid
i wish i experience to ride that bike. .
Didn’t YAMAHA win best bike ?
they are soft because is a race bike that is driven by very light weight pilots..for a 60 kg pilot are not so soft
Hey, what was up with the fox gear? Jw.
^^ accurate
its a championship bike
are you wearing fox ??
Not trying to bash but bud not with all bikes will you get comfortable in 2 turns I don't even think some of the pros get used to a different bike that fast you need to give it some time bud instead of taking a few laps then going at it
Comparing without making any adjustments is not a way to judge or
Compare bikes lol
I like Jeff’s vids but hate why he acts like he’s so tall which he is tall but not that tall
Ryan Villopoto (173cm/5'8″)
James Stewart (170cm/5'7″)
Ryan Dungey (178cm/5'10”)
Ken Roczen (170cm/5'7″)
Justin Barcia (175cm/5'9″)
Justin Brayton (178cm/5'10”)
Andrew Short (180cm/5'11”)
Brock Tickle (180cm/5'11”)
2tallracing.com
dj wells I hope you didn’t just go google all of that cause some of that is wrong, especially Roczen, he’s 5’10 he’s an inch taller then me, not 5’7.
@@tacoenvy Yup, doesn't look right at all. I think maybe 2tallracing altered their rider stats a little for marketing purposes... So that someone 6'0 or 6'2 feels they need their kits.
@@tacoenvy most people google
I love Jeff Walker but no offense these Honda boys dont know about that rear steer life 🔥🔥🔥 hold it wide open for straight line stability 😂😂😂 I do have to admit that the handle bars they put on are straight garbage lol
nice video. michael lindsay should do a a shoot out where your can spend $1000 on tweeking things and flaws, and or improving area's and then run them all head to head. because lets face it every bike needs to be tailored to suit different riders
What’s the point of that tho? Most people who watch these and actually take the advice prob just leave their bike stock
I’m gonna leave my bike dead stock... said no one ever.
most people change at least bars to there favourite bend. And have there suspension set for there weight. If you don’t your missing out...
I think in 2019 and 2020 all shootouts are kinda pointless! Think about it! When you buy a bike, you set it up to YOU! THE RIDER! then.... you throw some trick parts at it.... Hell ... even the RMZ can haul ass! It's gotten to the point on what color do you like!!!
There’s no F anymore. Kx450. No F. Dummy
Hi Jeff. Maybe I didn’t hear, but how tall are you?
He said 6'1
@@SpectrumSpectacle thanks man 👍
@@Reachtransform No problem
That was horrible first impression.....instead of spending 3 minutes on bar bend dislike, just say the bend wasn't for you. or the bars suck. Definitely not set up for smaller people. I've ridden every 2019 and some 2020 bikes and I specifically picked the kawi because I'm 6'5" and I felt most comfortable on it. Suspension was amazing, I weigh 260 and need to go up in the shock spring, but the forks are awesome once you figure the stock settings are way off. Hydro clutch is unreal .....best 9k I've ever spent, for sure!
I have a 19 and with Jeff's very helpful discussion about bars have switched out the stockers... really dude don't take technical discussions personally.
@@ironmonkey1512 nothing personal there.....just criticism of an impression. Impressions should be generic and non biased. Definitely not what I saw there. I get frustrated seeing contradiction and personal opinions that fit them. It's not just him, it's all the shoot out publications and media outlets. That's why I really like shout outs and impressions with dynos and hard facts.
We talking about bars???
I thought Jeff had a sponsorship with 100% goggles, why does he wear a Oakley airbrake at 0:37 and fox gear?
Go to Southwick 338
If I could give your videos 2 thumbs up I would lol
Hey no excuses, don't hear Tomac complaining.
JK
i mean one bike is stock the other is completely modded lol
Tomac wouldn’t even get to touch a stock bike, Mitch would have got his hands on it well before tomac gets to ride it
Mitch? 🤣🤣🤣
@@nicholaspike8987 Mitch is pro circuit bud, completely different team than tomac.
Nicholas Pike tomac doesn’t ride for Mitch’s pro circuit Kawasaki team. He rides for the factory monster energy Kawasaki team
I'm bummed that you guys didn't change a few things on the bikes as that's what 95% of people do when they get a bike. I always swap to a lower and flatter bar before I even ride the bike. I would like to see a more realistic shootout where you change a few small comfort items such as the bars, mapping, pegs, grips, levers, seat cover, and suspension.
I would have liked to make a few changes, but the rules were to ride them in stock form. Maybe we can bend the rules in the future! Would possibly make for a better test.
The issue with that is all the riders have different bars/suspension setup preferences so we'd have to be swapping our bars and suspension on to each bike we rode. I don't think it would be logistically doable unless we spread it out over a few weeks (which also wasn't logistically do-able). Hopefully we can find a happy medium for future shootouts
Jake Waggoner that defeats the purpose of a shootout lol
@@JeffWalker84 I think bending the rules would be more beneficial to the customer, which is exactly what Micheal should be doing. I think he's doing it this way because that's what he did in the past but honestly this is his chance to bring more utility into these shootouts. Have the man think outside of the box and with some business strategy!
I do agree with you about the logistics and agreeing on different set ups but I'm sure you could do everything outside of the suspension on the fly (how long does it take to change bars, 20 minutes with all of the controls)? For suspension, it may be better to get an agreed setting and run that as a base. Obviously, with the caveat that this suspension may not be fully valved, nor sprung for your specific weight but should be better than stock.
All of this is being said constructively and with love!
-Jake
@@Okheck I disagree man. Go to your local MX track (a larger one if yours is a tiny backyard set up) and look around. You'll see that many customers have Mika bars, different types of Rental bars that were not stock, Pro taper bars on KTM's that aren't stock, gold chains, after market sprockets which probable gear changes, different tires (I'm up here in the North West with lots of hardback), fancy foot pegs, Vp fuel everywhere, Tokyo Mods stickers for eco mapping, frame grippers, ect. The list goes on and on man. Coming from a business background Micheal needs to look at his target audience and think, "What would they do to their bikes?" We'll I just listed a huge list that a majority of kids do. Yes, there is a small percentage of people who run their bikes stock but they typically only do that when they're just getting into the sport. They have no preferences and therefore do not change much. Also, most new riders don't go out and purchase a 10K brand new bike as their first bike so this method doesn't stand.
Go take a walk around your pits during your next practice or race day to see what I mean!
Jake Waggoner so what your saying is you would rather have a video that only talks about the motor? Wtf
Instead of complaing about the bars put your bars on it. Or how about a test with minor changes to suit you would be a lot more informative
Sign with jmc motor sports, they reached out to you
Ethan Anderson who says he didn’t sign something with someone, or something like that 🤔
Shhhhh Michael. They're not ready yet.
Jeff Walker noooo I like u on the Honda!
@@sterben4958 who said it's not a Honda? Or maybe it's a Kawi since I commented on this video...or maybe it's an Alta...the world may never know! Or know soon...
@@JeffWalker84 I can hardly contain myself..
32 angry Kawi fans lol
2 strokes guys never like 4 strokes... it mainly feels like that cos they're meant to be kept at higher speeds continuously an not thrashing low gears around tight corners and little jumps.. 4 strokes are for big boys not adrenalin junkie lil 2 stroke riders
Kawasaki is just better to be honest
North__Dreamz ok buddy just as they got last every year in the last 15 years lol
From what I’ve heard Kawasaki’s are unreliable
Does this mean you are switching to kawasaki?
You can change it for your liking lol
Kinda disappointing thought it’d be a great bike. I’m 6 foot so Ik I can trust what your saying.
It's still a great bike! They all are to be honest. When all the bikes are this good, we have to really nit-pick in order to rank them. With a few minor upgrades the Kawi would be a good bike
Ure literally jus talkin bout the bad things about it
Tell me, why you-- inserted! a video game, on my channel? I don't own, any video, of JPN MXER! You isn't, on that Bike! And it's all, what? ignition no engine, what? RPMs-- gearles( bypas dbl s).
I dont like fat bars
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