This scene automatically would have took the spotlight from The Riddler. In my humble opinion, the scene was simply captivating and unsettling. I can’t wait to see what Matt does next with these characters.
Joker quite often steals the show. And he often steals the show in a way like this, where its best to cut him, cause too often he's gonna captivate people away from the story's intended villain. The Clown Prince of Crime is best to be the focus, or not present i think
*I'm tired of seeing the Joker all the time. Ledger in 2008, Leto in 2016, Phoenix in 2019, Cameron Monaghan in Gotham and now this guy? It's like DC forgot Batman has a rogues gallery of other villains they can use.*
As great as this deleted scene is, I kinda hope we get Hush or another villain first. Just seems so interesting. Save the Joker for last. It kinda of would’ve took the spotlight from Riddler, but it would’ve been a great surprise. All the the trailers showed the Riddler in Arkham, could you imagine being in the theatre, at the Batman in Arkham scene about to interrogate the Riddler, but surprise, it’s an established Joker instead?! That would’ve been NUTS. And NO ONE would’ve seen is coming! It would’ve been like Captain America grabbing Mjloner in “Endgame”!
@@starhunter9085 yea but we all know most ppl love the joker the most but I agree with you there are a lot of other great villains so they should save the joker for the last movie.
@@Nornfang wait so how does Batman know him, or why did batman go to him for the riddlers info. Or they deleted this scene for that reason? And just had him next to Paul danos cell.
@@youngeeneden1594 batman locked him up as a serial killer, he hasn’t broken out and declared himself the joker yet. his face deformation is probably in part due to batman capturing him
He convinced me in this scene that he's the joker. Definitely would've stolen the spotlight from the riddler, IMO. I can somewhat see how people has compared this to the silence of the lamb.
@@darkknight9086 Oh it definitely would've, look at the reaction to it today and imagine if the scene was in the actual movie, it would've completely overshadowed any discussion about the Riddler
“Maybe he’s a fan, or maybe he’s got a grudge against you” I love that both of those are true, since he’s a fan of Batman, but a grudge against Bruce Wayne
This version of the Joker really does look like he fell into the acid, which I think it a really cool touch! The scarring, the hair falling out, the boils and blisters, and even his iconic smile looks like a chemical burn! I was also amazed by how quiet he was. I think I'm trained now too expect the joker to be flamboyant and loud in his mannerisms, barking out laughter at the top of his lungs, but honestly these more quiet, quick laughs make him seem so much more unhinged! Really excellent stuff
I love the line “Think you don’t care about his motives Whether he loves or hates you, I think you’re just terrified because you’re not sure he’s wrong, you think they deserved it” In a way he’s right, Riddler isn’t 100% bad until he floods Gotham and tries to massacre the city and Batman knows why he’s doing stuff and in his mind somewhere he agrees with him, But his morality is telling him, NO BRUCE, HES A PATHETIC PSYCHOPATH
Well, that isn't something he knows. This kinda plays with the idea that Bruce really does think that these people deserve to suffer for ruining his city. So in a sense, he does agree with Riddler that these people should suffer
This unexpected drop of The Batman's deleted scene was just a shock in a good way. Barry Keoghan plays it as a deranged psychopath with a Hannibal Lecter twisted personality and definitely gets under Batman's skin with ease in this deleted scene. When you think about it serves as the perfect catalyst to setup the story in The Batman. The whole blurring out the Joker but at the same time kind of giving that nice setup is so perfectly shot in this scene. The look of the Joker is based on I believe Death of a Family/New 52.
*I'm tired of seeing the Joker all the time. Ledger in 2008, Leto in 2016, Phoenix in 2019, Cameron Monaghan in Gotham and now this guy? It's like DC forgot Batman has a rogues gallery of other villains they can use.*
@@starhunter9085 while i do agree and i think robin should be a character thats built up instead it would just feel weird to have a batman without a joker
Loved it more than I thought. I'm giving Keoghan a chance, You always should, it's like people didn't learn from Ledger. Always give the Actor's a fair shot.
Usually when it’s an out of ballpark casting like Pattinson, Affleck, Ledger… it’s more than likely because they NAILED the audition. So when I see random castings i don’t get angry
*I'm tired of seeing the Joker all the time. Ledger in 2008, Leto in 2016, Phoenix in 2019, Cameron Monaghan in Gotham and now this guy? It's like DC forgot Batman has a rogues gallery of other villains they can use.*
I think they should have joker show up in the sequel but in a similar kind of way, but keep him as a main threat for a 3rd or maybe a 4th the Batman flick. Him teaming up with the riddler and other inmates at Arkham where they take it over in an attempt to lure in and kill Batman being a movie in of itself would be dope (and possibly killing robin in the process).
Imagine being Batman and having to deal with this crazy motherjoker and the Riddler for a living. Both interrogation scenes are incredibly well done, creepy, demented but so damn entertaining to watch. I feel Batman has just as big of a fixation on the Joker. I also find it funny that neither one of them are intimidated by the other but seemingly more interested in figuring the other one out.
I think The Batman one isn't even an interrogation, it's the realization that the glass between these two traumatized orphans is actually a mirror, causing them both to throw a temper tantrum.
I felt like he was channeling the spirit of Heath Ledger but also did his own thing. The whole time I felt like I was being squeezed through tight space and couldn't tell when the travel would be over. It left a feeling of paranoia and repulsion. So great job dude! 👏
Much better then the last two Jokers we got. Which of course it's easy to beat Leto. But I enjoyed this one scene much more then I did anything in the Joker film. Which I always get hate for not liking that Joker. Never mean it as a knock against Phoenix as I'm sure he could be a great Joker. It's just the character of Arthur never once felt like The Joker to me. And I know people argue no shit it's a prequel film but to me even in 5 or 10 yrs I could never imagine Arthur transforming enough to resemble the Joker. As he's already in like his late 40's in that film he's not magically gonna become smarter at that age. As the most Arthur could come up with in terms of smarts was to just shot people. Not to mention how he killed the late night host made zero sense as what the hell production would invite someone with mental health issues and not even bother to search them for a weapon at the door or before bringing them on stage.
This is after the commissioner died and it’s awesome how smart they actually made the Joker in this scene. He’s absolutely terrifying in not just what he sounds like but what he knows and does.
'The Batman' is the same movie where we got to see The Riddler, Penguin, Joker, Catwoman and Falcone and it never felt forced or too occupied at any moment in the movie which is one of the reasons why I think this is the best Batman movie of all time. The director, the cast and crew, the music(theme composer), the costume designers(specially Batsuit), the batpod and the batmobile, the writers, the stuntmen/women, the set designers were all in sync with each other which is the reason this movie is art and perfection imo.
If keoghan really is joker, I’m excited to see him play joker. I feel like he’s one of those actors that you think would be bad for the role but are just incredible, like Robert Pattinson. He shook all of the people who doubted him! 💯🔥
He is really the joker but he isn't fully the joker yet. He's currently transforming into the joker while in arkham. He was caught by Batman cuz he's a serial killer.
@@cngotham4111 no. The director stated this is joker before he came out to the public as the joker. The public doesnt know him as the joker yet. He was just some sadistic serial killer that Batman caught in his first year.
I like the Hannibal/Will Graham vibe from the scene. Returing to a previously captured criminal for his perspective on a new case feels ripped right out of Red Dragon and it works. While I may not be the biggest fan of this Joker’s look, the dude really does look like he fell into a vat of toxic skin-melting chemicals. Almost like the images of victims of acid attacks in the Middle East. (Yes, I know that he’s supposed to have a birth defect that makes him smile, but the rest of his body looks like Goldblum’s The Fly, mid transformation as his skin degrades.) Honestly, I would’ve cast Alexander Scheer as Joker (who essentially was the Joker in “Blood Red Sky”), but Keoghan does a good enough job.
I see that HIS right SIDE of his face sticks out further more on his face like a huge tumour, which may lead to the scaring on his face as we all seen that has a smile on it
This is like the real conversations had with Ted Buddy about The Green River killer, and other killers they were trying to figure out. Truly sadistic. Barry is playing this part to perfection. Can't wait to see the next movie!
I was on the fence because we have already seen so many versions of this character. However, this was unsettling and I love that; that's how Joker should be in this version of the Batman. Now I'm hyped for the future film (maybe?).
I swear to God that I had straight nipple chills watching this scene. People complaining about Joker being repetitive or are "fatigued" by him can go and kick rocks somewhere else. Are people "fatigued" by Batman or Spider-Man or Marvel? I don't think so. I am already in love with Barry Keoghan's version of the Joker. So freaking satanic and insane. I love the aesthetic to him. The hair, the eyes, the voice, the smile caused by his birth defect, the look of someone who has survived being burned in a vat of chemicals (even though Matt Reeves stated that it isn't the case with this Joker). Everything about this was picture-perfect. I can't wait to see more of him down the line (but NOT in The Batman 2).
Yeah I think Matt will make joker the villain of batman 2. Which kinda makes me wonder whether he actually wanted to do riddler as a villain or had to make it because of previous batman films showcasing joker too much
Barry Keoghan from his perspective makes a creepily brutal Joker!!! Because of the change of voice, the gestures...but the laughter. Is the best of all. This points for the Arkham sequel or series. ❤❤👏👏🃏🃏
He truly is a great actor. As a fellow Irish man I'm proud that the legacy of this character is being passed on to Barry Keoghan! Also, I know its confusing but it's an Irish name so it's pronounced 'Key-own'. Just for future reference👍
A director with less refined instincts would have left this in, because this is clearly Grade A Joker material. But not only was Matt Reeves good enough to make this scene and realize what was needed to make a good Joker, but he had the tact and respect for his story to not let it overshadow his main antagonist even though this scene probably would have been the most hype moment in the movie and gotten the most social media buzz. Absolute respect.
Remember when everyone lost their marbles when Barry Keoghan was rumoured to be the Joker. Now we got a Joker who was clearly scarred and deformed by Ace Chemical. Not only it messed up his physical appearance but also his psychological mindset. Matt Reeves done a heck of a job.
I hope Matt Reeves can treat Joker like Thanos in that he needs to be gently threaded through and teased a bit often before the big showdown. I understand the Joker fatigue, and I think this would be the best way to give the rest of Batman's rogue gallery some breathing room. Just chronicle Batman's efforts to take down various supervillains while constantly winking and hinting there's something big to come with the Joker. This'll also give Reeves enough time to really figure out where he wants to take this character and truly refine his spin on him. And then, by the time the Joker gets his Infinity War/Endgame moment, he'll potentially be even more glorious than Heath Ledger's portrayal.
I wasnt even aware Keoghan was getting hate. I enjoyed his scene with Dano at the end of the Batman. As a marvel guy, who doesn't know much about DC, I know Heath did an awesome performance, but time passes, reboots happen, maybe cause I'm not as invested to DC? But Druig from Eternals did awesome here EDIT: idk much about DC, but Joker's chemical spill/burn happens in the comics right? Glad Reeves' did it this way
I loved the scene but I'm glad they cut it, one of the best scenes in the whole film is Riddler and Batman's conversation when Riddler reveals the truth about being an orphan etc and it would have seriously undercut all that to have Joker near the start of the film basically announce all the main points of Riddler's motivations. It's kind of perfect though bc this scene being deleted means it isn't canon, so Matt can listen to honest feedback and if he wants to change certain things about the character without it impacting anything. For example this Joker looks more like he fell in a vat of acid than any Joker we've ever seen, yet Matt Reeves said this one didn't and just grew up with a muscle disease so he looks like that. I trust Matt Reeves but that's the one thing I hope they change, we don't even need to see it but just have it confirmed that he fell in a vat of acid to look that way etc EDIT: Maybe a backstory point of this Joker could be that him having this muscle disease and maybe being a psycho as a kid caused somebody to cover him in acid and that caused all the injuries or something(?)
Brilliant scene. I see why it was deleted. He clearly tells you the whole motive of the Riddler. So as someone that seen the Theatrical Version twice, I would appreciate the Directors Cut to have this included to have a more complete understanding of the "Intro" of the Joker in Arkham with the Riddler. I think Reeves should have the Joker be a subtle (but major) villain throughout the entire series... A manipulator of other "Main villains" for the next additions. It would serve almost identical to the nature of how much of a master mind the JOKER really was.
I didn't care for his cameo in the film, thought it should be removed honestly, but this scene is incredible on its own. I need Batman 2 expeditiously.
This scene should definitely have been kept in the movie, Barry Keoghan as Joker was a bold casting choice but it worked out awesomely, hope we see him in the sequel
No it shouldn't like Joker said he knew that stuff already it would've just been a pointless conversation with the Joker. I don't like Joker so don't waste my time just to show me Joker and slow down this long movie.
@@userious258 the scene definitely isn’t pointless. When he looks at the file he sees that riddler “likes little puzzles,” which is likely why later he uses the riddle to make him his “friend.”
@@q.waiters6666 The riddler was on the news and broadcasted himself and said riddles. So there are other ways to he the info that he likes riddles. Either way you don't need a whole scene to have Joker look at a file and say he likes riddles.
I would love to see this added in a extended cut but even if they don’t I’m super excited for the possibilities here. In my opinion Barry portrayed the most accurate joker since Heath ledger in this one small scene alone.
I think it definitely makes sense to release this after the initial film. I agree with many who think Joker's presence would have stolen Riddler's ability to remain in the spotlight. But the fact that this scene was released so soon after the movie's initial release goes to show that they probably loved this scene and want us to have a greater understanding of this world and this Joker going forward. Cannot wait to see this come to fruition down the line.
The scene shows how much joker understands and sees the perspective of Batman like no other... Makes the spectator to wonder how much batman and joker have in common and makes the batman afraid of how much they have in common
I think if they added this scene it would take away from the Riddlers interrogation at the end as this reveals a lot of the same stuff and it would make the Riddler scene feel like old news. I like it but I also see why they took it out.
I was so unsure about the actor who was cast as joker, I had only seen him in the eternals and I was a bit meeehhhh when I heard it was him. This scene shut my mouth and made me instantly keen for more.
God this horror movie Batman universe is INSANE, people always talk about how dark and grim Gotham and the rogues are but Matt reeves actually was bold enough to make it a reality
What I love about this scene is that it shows an already established relationship between Joker and Batman. It further fleshes out this version of Gotham.
I'm glad they did a unique take of the joker of instead of full joker and chemical reactions of skin, hair and smile they went for a birth defect of like never stop smiling and they did it in a beautifully horrific and terrifying way and I love this uniqueness
This seen was so chilling and well thought out, I think it would fit best after Alfred has been put in the hospital, as Bruce is very desperate to catch the riddler even more so after Alfred almost died
Decided to check this out. I actually think Joker isn’t talking about The Riddler at all. He’s talking about Batman himself. Which would make this even crazier when you think about it.
This is Batman and the joker. The way the joker is fond of the Batman and obsessed and the way Batman can’t keep his eyes off him and knows how dangerous he is . This was just perfection
Really like the scene, but definitely think it would have overshadowed Riddler, as well as I think it’d just end up repeating beats that naturally come later.
i love how reeves captured the psychology of all of these characters. not just “guy crazy cause of society” but a man who is truly insane, yet so smart. one thing the movies always failed to show about joker is that he’s just as smart as batman. just as observant, just as detail oriented, just as skilled, he is batman’s opposite. the way he analyzed riddler from just his file was great. i hope they keep joker as the hannibal lecter type where he’s only used for information. at least until the 3rd movie
I’m glad they didn’t include this scene in the final cut bc IMO it doesn’t fit that well and we also have a similar scene setup with the riddler( them both sitting in Arkham across from Bruce). It’s still an amazing scene tho and I’m really glad they released it and can’t wait so see more of this joker 💜💜
The Batman and joker dynamic is amazing if it’s done right, and I love it here. Seeing how joker trying to get under his skin, Batman both finding him despicable, but also recognize the intelligence behind the madness
I see why this was cut from the movie but man this scene is so cool. I really love Barry as this joker. Can’t wait to see more and what they do with it
One of the greatest deleted scene of all for the producers. It sets up sequels if they wanted it, they tested their interpretation of another Joker (pass with flying colors), makes the audience speculate enough to google search the Joker actor and create theories, and having it as a deleted scene didn't conflict the spotlight for the Riddler. Imagine having "The War of Jokes and Riddles" for future movies. That will be fun!
I'm excited to see more of this Joker. Imo his voice reminds me of the Joker from "The Joker blogs" Which is basically heath ledger's joker with more of a new Yorker twang.. I like it! It fits since Gotham is basically New York.
I love it! Keep doing your thing Mr Reeves. Would be fantastic to see This Joker built up throughout the Arkham series and then let him loose to cause chaos in the third installment
A great scene, but I’m glad it was cut, I think it would’ve effected the pace quite a bit. I like to think it still happened we just didn’t see it obviously
His look is like a mix of Gotham / Lee Bermejo / New 52 Death of the Family Joker. Great performances and the chemistry is fantastic. I hope this is added to the blu ray cut. It also gives more context to the gang at the beginning, in my mind it confirms they are joker goons
This is a very very good scene. Having watched it, I can see why it was cut. The movie didn't "need" this scene, and as a director and editor, if it's not "needed" it shouldn't be in it. The movie is already nearly 3 hours long, so 5 more minutes wouldn't have made a difference in that regard, but Batman didn't need this interaction to find and stop The Riddler. I actually like the end tease better as it lets us know what could be as opposed to this which could make us think, what did we miss in Year One? Bookending the movie with the "Joker Gang" at the start and The Joker at the end is perfect.
I think this scene is absolutely amazing and that he does such a great job as The Joker, but I think it was a very good decision to remove it because it would take away from The Riddler who was also such a fantastic villain
You guys aren't just a bunch of JOKERS like myself, you actually have critical input, great evaluations, and are great at articulating your thoughts. Cheers boys.
This deleted Joker scene falls in between Batman and Gordon investigating Pete Savage’s body at the Morgue and when Batman sends Selina into the ice burg lounge with his detective lenses. So damn good.
Matt Reeves said this scene took place directly after the death of savage. I am in love with this version of the batman universe, the whole Hannibal Lector vibe is amazing and very well fitting and i hope they utilise keoghan in the arkham asylum series.
The Joker design is a better version of the 2nd Joker on the GOTHAM show. I'm really digging the Hannibal Lecture and Will Graham vibes for Batman and The Joker too.
I’m new to this channel and don’t know your names but the expression of the dude on the right as the video opens up was so wholesome. What an exciting time to be a Batman fan 😆
I haven’t gotten to watching Eternals yet or any other things that Barry Keoghan has been in, but this deleted scene has now gotten me HOOKED & SPOOKED 😦🤯 They should 100% build up this eerie relationship between or in the movies, but save him as being the main or one of the bad guys in the final 3rd movie.
Love the comment about having this scene showing Joker becoming acquainted with Riddler's work through Batman and that leading to Joker's ability to manipulate Riddler during their time together in Arkham!
I personally hope the Joker isn’t the villain in the second one. I’d much rather have a truly terrifying Scarecrow or maybe Gotham during winter with Mr. Freeze as the villain
6:16 The HBO Max version of this same deleted scene shows the placement of it. It's first 50 seconds of it is the scene from the movie before this deleted one.
I mean I don't think anyone has mentioned it yet but do you think that the reason his skin looks all wounded, infected and covered in boils is that this joker could follow the "fallen into a cat of toxic waste/acid" origin story? or could it have just been like self harm or an explosion
If you look at the back of his head at 2:10 you will see that he has a very nasty looking deep scar on the back of his skull. Doesnt look like acid damage but looks more like severe blunt impact that may have caused a TBI. This could have been Batmans doing as we see how brutal and physically vicious he can get in the film. Almost as if the Batman made his condition worse and he feels responsible. only a theory tho Edit* Something i also realized from reading about lobe locations on the brain. The area that the scar is located is directly above the parietal lobe. The parietal lobes functions description is "The parietal lobes are responsible for processing somatosensory information from the body; this includes touch, pain, temperature, and the sense of limb position" Its a stretch but this injury could possibly make the Joker immune to pain
@@viewaskew7741 That is actually so cool. This batman likes using brute force so a villain who cannot feel his punches is the perfect counter as he has to learn to play mind games with the joker instead
@@-Tidae it would be very cool I this was the case and incredibly detailed on the filmmakers part. I still think the majority of the damage looks like acid, but that one on the back of his head look very much like a scar from blunt impact
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This scene automatically would have took the spotlight from The Riddler. In my humble opinion, the scene was simply captivating and unsettling. I can’t wait to see what Matt does next with these characters.
Joker quite often steals the show. And he often steals the show in a way like this, where its best to cut him, cause too often he's gonna captivate people away from the story's intended villain. The Clown Prince of Crime is best to be the focus, or not present i think
*I'm tired of seeing the Joker all the time. Ledger in 2008, Leto in 2016, Phoenix in 2019, Cameron Monaghan in Gotham and now this guy? It's like DC forgot Batman has a rogues gallery of other villains they can use.*
As great as this deleted scene is, I kinda hope we get Hush or another villain first. Just seems so interesting. Save the Joker for last.
It kinda of would’ve took the spotlight from Riddler, but it would’ve been a great surprise. All the the trailers showed the Riddler in Arkham, could you imagine being in the theatre, at the Batman in Arkham scene about to interrogate the Riddler, but surprise, it’s an established Joker instead?! That would’ve been NUTS. And NO ONE would’ve seen is coming! It would’ve been like Captain America grabbing Mjloner in “Endgame”!
@@starhunter9085 yea but we all know most ppl love the joker the most but I agree with you there are a lot of other great villains so they should save the joker for the last movie.
@@jareddrewdina2756 *They shouldn't have the Joker in this franchise at all.*
Love how scary he looks and the fact that Joker was probably this Batman’s first villain in his career
matt reeves already confirmed he is not yet the joker. just a prisoner of arkham from serial killing
@@Nornfang wait so how does Batman know him, or why did batman go to him for the riddlers info. Or they deleted this scene for that reason? And just had him next to Paul danos cell.
@@youngeeneden1594 batman locked him up as a serial killer, he hasn’t broken out and declared himself the joker yet. his face deformation is probably in part due to batman capturing him
@@Nornfang Matt Reeves said that jokers deformed face Is due to a disease he’s had since he’s been born
@@a_waff1es_0pinion76 thanks for clearing that up!
He convinced me in this scene that he's the joker. Definitely would've stolen the spotlight from the riddler, IMO. I can somewhat see how people has compared this to the silence of the lamb.
No he wouldn’t the spotlight from the riddler stop hallucinating
I can see why it was deleted. It would have definitely overshadowed the Riddler interrogation later on.
@@darkknight9086 Oh it definitely would've, look at the reaction to it today and imagine if the scene was in the actual movie, it would've completely overshadowed any discussion about the Riddler
He's a mix of jerome valeska joker, Heath Ledger Joker & THE MAN WHO CAN'T STOP SMILING !
@@darkknight9086 talk about bat stan
“Maybe he’s a fan, or maybe he’s got a grudge against you” I love that both of those are true, since he’s a fan of Batman, but a grudge against Bruce Wayne
It’s lines like this that make me wonder if the Joker knows who Batman is.
@@halloweenfriday probably does but joker doesn't care about Bruce Wayne. He wants batman
@@bighorn6964 yup, in the comics, Joker found out Batman is Bruce Wayne many times but he never cared about it
This version of the Joker really does look like he fell into the acid, which I think it a really cool touch! The scarring, the hair falling out, the boils and blisters, and even his iconic smile looks like a chemical burn! I was also amazed by how quiet he was. I think I'm trained now too expect the joker to be flamboyant and loud in his mannerisms, barking out laughter at the top of his lungs, but honestly these more quiet, quick laughs make him seem so much more unhinged! Really excellent stuff
it’s a biological condition called Angelman syndrome
No acid
Reeves said he did not fell into an acid. Its a congenital defect.
Yeah I agree. Obviously it's not just a disease. He has one as stated by the director but maybe he still fell into acid. Or burned himself.
I thought the disease was just his permanent smile not his other physical afflictions, you could see burns on his hands too
I love the line
“Think you don’t care about his motives Whether he loves or hates you, I think you’re just terrified because you’re not sure he’s wrong, you think they deserved it”
In a way he’s right, Riddler isn’t 100% bad until he floods Gotham and tries to massacre the city and Batman knows why he’s doing stuff and in his mind somewhere he agrees with him, But his morality is telling him, NO BRUCE, HES A PATHETIC PSYCHOPATH
Well, that isn't something he knows. This kinda plays with the idea that Bruce really does think that these people deserve to suffer for ruining his city. So in a sense, he does agree with Riddler that these people should suffer
This unexpected drop of The Batman's deleted scene was just a shock in a good way. Barry Keoghan plays it as a deranged psychopath with a Hannibal Lecter twisted personality and definitely gets under Batman's skin with ease in this deleted scene. When you think about it serves as the perfect catalyst to setup the story in The Batman. The whole blurring out the Joker but at the same time kind of giving that nice setup is so perfectly shot in this scene. The look of the Joker is based on I believe Death of a Family/New 52.
I was thinking he looked like New 52 Joker as well
*I'm tired of seeing the Joker all the time. Ledger in 2008, Leto in 2016, Phoenix in 2019, Cameron Monaghan in Gotham and now this guy? It's like DC forgot Batman has a rogues gallery of other villains they can use.*
@@starhunter9085 while i do agree and i think robin should be a character thats built up instead it would just feel weird to have a batman without a joker
@@realironfist thats what i thought as well. and also the man who laughs.
He laughs about everything is a fvcking no sense and prosthetics are awful af
Loved it more than I thought. I'm giving Keoghan a chance, You always should, it's like people didn't learn from Ledger. Always give the Actor's a fair shot.
Usually when it’s an out of ballpark casting like Pattinson, Affleck, Ledger… it’s more than likely because they NAILED the audition. So when I see random castings i don’t get angry
@@cornbread1565 If only more people, especially Batman fans, thought like this. It’s almost like they enjoy being proven wrong. 🤷♂️
*I'm tired of seeing the Joker all the time. Ledger in 2008, Leto in 2016, Phoenix in 2019, Cameron Monaghan in Gotham and now this guy? It's like DC forgot Batman has a rogues gallery of other villains they can use.*
Great, great point
We gave Phoenix a shot...he nailed it. We gave Leto a shot and he shit the bed. Now after 5 minutes you ready to put this up there with Ledger ? Gtfo.
Pattinson and keoghan will be giving a psychological thriller chemistry of Batman and joker , as it’s going to be much more intense and horror.
I think they should have joker show up in the sequel but in a similar kind of way, but keep him as a main threat for a 3rd or maybe a 4th the Batman flick. Him teaming up with the riddler and other inmates at Arkham where they take it over in an attempt to lure in and kill Batman being a movie in of itself would be dope (and possibly killing robin in the process).
It was done in the Dark Knight.
Joker doesn’t team up, he always ends up betraying, except with maybe Harley
@@TyroneChikknBone he’s teamed up multiple times, but your right he always betrays them.
imagine if we get a mcu version of gotham and get nightwing and red hood later down the line
Matt Reeve said he won't be the villain in any Batman movie but he will be a main character in the Arkham series
Imagine being Batman and having to deal with this crazy motherjoker and the Riddler for a living. Both interrogation scenes are incredibly well done, creepy, demented but so damn entertaining to watch.
I feel Batman has just as big of a fixation on the Joker. I also find it funny that neither one of them are intimidated by the other but seemingly more interested in figuring the other one out.
They explored that theory in the Arkham games. The essentially need each other
I think The Batman one isn't even an interrogation, it's the realization that the glass between these two traumatized orphans is actually a mirror, causing them both to throw a temper tantrum.
He's a mix of jerome valeska joker, Heath Ledger Joker & THE MAN WHO CAN'T STOP SMILING !
Bruh. I figured them out, they’re both Easy to destroy. The joker is scared of the IRS and Batman is scared of love. 😌
@@lionelt7882 so very accurate!
I felt like he was channeling the spirit of Heath Ledger but also did his own thing. The whole time I felt like I was being squeezed through tight space and couldn't tell when the travel would be over. It left a feeling of paranoia and repulsion. So great job dude! 👏
I agree. When joker got close to the glass and started speaking, that sounded so much like heath ledgers joker to me .
@@alfredogarcia7615 Truth.
Much better then the last two Jokers we got. Which of course it's easy to beat Leto. But I enjoyed this one scene much more then I did anything in the Joker film. Which I always get hate for not liking that Joker. Never mean it as a knock against Phoenix as I'm sure he could be a great Joker. It's just the character of Arthur never once felt like The Joker to me. And I know people argue no shit it's a prequel film but to me even in 5 or 10 yrs I could never imagine Arthur transforming enough to resemble the Joker. As he's already in like his late 40's in that film he's not magically gonna become smarter at that age. As the most Arthur could come up with in terms of smarts was to just shot people. Not to mention how he killed the late night host made zero sense as what the hell production would invite someone with mental health issues and not even bother to search them for a weapon at the door or before bringing them on stage.
@@wisewolftony That was very opinionated, which I appreciate. Good to hear your honest thoughts. 👍
@@wisewolftony he's 32 in the film. Stress and psychological problems does that to a person
This is after the commissioner died and it’s awesome how smart they actually made the Joker in this scene. He’s absolutely terrifying in not just what he sounds like but what he knows and does.
He laughs about everything is a fvcking no sense and prosthetics are awful af
@@MrMcsalvation huh
@@MrMcsalvation prosthetics are awful? Tf you talking about lol. He's laughing at batman in a mocking way not a funny way duh.
@@MrMcsalvation You want to be different so bad
@@MrMcsalvation What are you on
'The Batman' is the same movie where we got to see The Riddler, Penguin, Joker, Catwoman and Falcone and it never felt forced or too occupied at any moment in the movie which is one of the reasons why I think this is the best Batman movie of all time. The director, the cast and crew, the music(theme composer), the costume designers(specially Batsuit), the batpod and the batmobile, the writers, the stuntmen/women, the set designers were all in sync with each other which is the reason this movie is art and perfection imo.
it better get nominated next year god
Woah! Take it easy sweetheart!
BRILLIANT !!! He’s so terrifying. Great job Barry and Reeves. Can’t wait to see him then into The Joker 🃏
Amazing how great joker is at being cunning and manipulative, really gets into your head leaving you confused and angry
If keoghan really is joker, I’m excited to see him play joker. I feel like he’s one of those actors that you think would be bad for the role but are just incredible, like Robert Pattinson. He shook all of the people who doubted him! 💯🔥
He is really the joker but he isn't fully the joker yet. He's currently transforming into the joker while in arkham. He was caught by Batman cuz he's a serial killer.
@@AaronHatcher is there any similar comic story to read?
@@user-xe7nk7jq5e i would also like to know the same
@@AaronHatcher this is year 2 and batman already fought joker. Pretty sure this is a fully formed joker in his beginning of his criminal career.
@@cngotham4111 no. The director stated this is joker before he came out to the public as the joker. The public doesnt know him as the joker yet. He was just some sadistic serial killer that Batman caught in his first year.
I like the Hannibal/Will Graham vibe from the scene. Returing to a previously captured criminal for his perspective on a new case feels ripped right out of Red Dragon and it works. While I may not be the biggest fan of this Joker’s look, the dude really does look like he fell into a vat of toxic skin-melting chemicals. Almost like the images of victims of acid attacks in the Middle East. (Yes, I know that he’s supposed to have a birth defect that makes him smile, but the rest of his body looks like Goldblum’s The Fly, mid transformation as his skin degrades.)
Honestly, I would’ve cast Alexander Scheer as Joker (who essentially was the Joker in “Blood Red Sky”), but Keoghan does a good enough job.
nah Barry is perfect
Yeah well you ain't no movie director
I see that HIS right SIDE of his face sticks out further more on his face like a huge tumour, which may lead to the scaring on his face as we all seen that has a smile on it
I totally agree with that casting swap man 👍 The only thing I hope is that Barry's Joker comes off as less mumbly next movie 😂
This is like the real conversations had with Ted Buddy about The Green River killer, and other killers they were trying to figure out. Truly sadistic. Barry is playing this part to perfection. Can't wait to see the next movie!
I was on the fence because we have already seen so many versions of this character. However, this was unsettling and I love that; that's how Joker should be in this version of the Batman. Now I'm hyped for the future film (maybe?).
I was TRULY shock by this reveal!!! This needs to be a SAGA!! OMG I can't wait for the Arkham series
I swear to God that I had straight nipple chills watching this scene.
People complaining about Joker being repetitive or are "fatigued" by him can go and kick rocks somewhere else. Are people "fatigued" by Batman or Spider-Man or Marvel? I don't think so.
I am already in love with Barry Keoghan's version of the Joker. So freaking satanic and insane. I love the aesthetic to him. The hair, the eyes, the voice, the smile caused by his birth defect, the look of someone who has survived being burned in a vat of chemicals (even though Matt Reeves stated that it isn't the case with this Joker). Everything about this was picture-perfect.
I can't wait to see more of him down the line (but NOT in The Batman 2).
Agreed
Yeah I think Matt will make joker the villain of batman 2. Which kinda makes me wonder whether he actually wanted to do riddler as a villain or had to make it because of previous batman films showcasing joker too much
100% Agreed
That sounds gay in the beginning
Maybe in the third one🤔
Barry Keoghan from his perspective makes a creepily brutal Joker!!! Because of the change of voice, the gestures...but the laughter. Is the best of all. This points for the Arkham sequel or series. ❤❤👏👏🃏🃏
He truly is a great actor. As a fellow Irish man I'm proud that the legacy of this character is being passed on to Barry Keoghan!
Also, I know its confusing but it's an Irish name so it's pronounced 'Key-own'. Just for future reference👍
Finally someone who recognizes Barry's history of consistently great performances! This guy makes me very excited for projects, a solid actor.
A director with less refined instincts would have left this in, because this is clearly Grade A Joker material. But not only was Matt Reeves good enough to make this scene and realize what was needed to make a good Joker, but he had the tact and respect for his story to not let it overshadow his main antagonist even though this scene probably would have been the most hype moment in the movie and gotten the most social media buzz.
Absolute respect.
matt is incredible
Remember when everyone lost their marbles when Barry Keoghan was rumoured to be the Joker. Now we got a Joker who was clearly scarred and deformed by Ace Chemical. Not only it messed up his physical appearance but also his psychological mindset. Matt Reeves done a heck of a job.
This joker wasn’t in the ace chemicals , he was born with a muscle disease
He was born with a congenital disease that won't let him stop smiling, according to matt reeves.
I hope Matt Reeves can treat Joker like Thanos in that he needs to be gently threaded through and teased a bit often before the big showdown. I understand the Joker fatigue, and I think this would be the best way to give the rest of Batman's rogue gallery some breathing room. Just chronicle Batman's efforts to take down various supervillains while constantly winking and hinting there's something big to come with the Joker. This'll also give Reeves enough time to really figure out where he wants to take this character and truly refine his spin on him.
And then, by the time the Joker gets his Infinity War/Endgame moment, he'll potentially be even more glorious than Heath Ledger's portrayal.
Idk why people act like we can’t get two or three trilogies
People forget we control this we keep buying they keep making
I believe this Joker is inspired by Scott snyders new 52. This joker looks terrifying and I love it💯
Unfortunately the general public don't know who Scott Snyder is😑
@@MrSundaynighttt not everyone has to read comics. And that’s ok
@@natechenry when it’s the comics that come up with these characters and stories, the creators should be recognized.
@@Dom_510 sure but people shouldn't have to read the comics of the characters even if it's inspired by a specific version of the character.
@@cngotham4111 I never said that. I said that the comic creators should get the acknowledgment and respect they deserve
I wasnt even aware Keoghan was getting hate. I enjoyed his scene with Dano at the end of the Batman. As a marvel guy, who doesn't know much about DC, I know Heath did an awesome performance, but time passes, reboots happen, maybe cause I'm not as invested to DC? But Druig from Eternals did awesome here
EDIT: idk much about DC, but Joker's chemical spill/burn happens in the comics right? Glad Reeves' did it this way
I loved the scene but I'm glad they cut it, one of the best scenes in the whole film is Riddler and Batman's conversation when Riddler reveals the truth about being an orphan etc and it would have seriously undercut all that to have Joker near the start of the film basically announce all the main points of Riddler's motivations.
It's kind of perfect though bc this scene being deleted means it isn't canon, so Matt can listen to honest feedback and if he wants to change certain things about the character without it impacting anything.
For example this Joker looks more like he fell in a vat of acid than any Joker we've ever seen, yet Matt Reeves said this one didn't and just grew up with a muscle disease so he looks like that. I trust Matt Reeves but that's the one thing I hope they change, we don't even need to see it but just have it confirmed that he fell in a vat of acid to look that way etc
EDIT: Maybe a backstory point of this Joker could be that him having this muscle disease and maybe being a psycho as a kid caused somebody to cover him in acid and that caused all the injuries or something(?)
The Word is out Barry Keoghan is now officially our new Joker since mostly everyone saw the Batman. Great reaction 👍👍👍👍👍
Hard pass for me. The scene is cool but the Joker deserves better.
This is such a cool scene. It's like Clarice-Hannibal scene from Silence of the Lambs
The way Joker took the PAPERCLIP subtly by distracting batman with his talking is absolutely brilliant.
If this becomes a trilogy, I want Joker as the final boss in the Third!!!
Completely agree with this, and would love to see him cut his face off at some point in that third movie.
Brilliant scene. I see why it was deleted. He clearly tells you the whole motive of the Riddler. So as someone that seen the Theatrical Version twice, I would appreciate the Directors Cut to have this included to have a more complete understanding of the "Intro" of the Joker in Arkham with the Riddler. I think Reeves should have the Joker be a subtle (but major) villain throughout the entire series... A manipulator of other "Main villains" for the next additions. It would serve almost identical to the nature of how much of a master mind the JOKER really was.
Im excited to see what next for the future for the joker! Batman was really good
I didn't care for his cameo in the film, thought it should be removed honestly, but this scene is incredible on its own. I need Batman 2 expeditiously.
Yeah imo it would’ve been better if they showed this & the other scene with riddler as 2 deleted scenes to hype up the second film instead
I'm loving the look of this Joker, his hideous appearance just makes him more scary and intimidating!
It’s like Heath Ledger mixed with Cameron Monaghan. LOVE IT!
This scene should definitely have been kept in the movie, Barry Keoghan as Joker was a bold casting choice but it worked out awesomely, hope we see him in the sequel
No it shouldn't like Joker said he knew that stuff already it would've just been a pointless conversation with the Joker. I don't like Joker so don't waste my time just to show me Joker and slow down this long movie.
@@userious258 you don't like joker? Why? How do you not like the joker 😂
@@userious258 the scene definitely isn’t pointless. When he looks at the file he sees that riddler “likes little puzzles,” which is likely why later he uses the riddle to make him his “friend.”
@@q.waiters6666 The riddler was on the news and broadcasted himself and said riddles. So there are other ways to he the info that he likes riddles. Either way you don't need a whole scene to have Joker look at a file and say he likes riddles.
@@q.waiters6666 - if it wasn’t pointless.. they wouldn’t have deleted it
I need an extended version of The Batman please!! I don’t care if it’s (possibly) 3 or 4 hours
Its already 3 hours but that still too short
I would love to see this added in a extended cut but even if they don’t I’m super excited for the possibilities here. In my opinion Barry portrayed the most accurate joker since Heath ledger in this one small scene alone.
this is def the scariest looking joker I've seen so far. Reeves is going in the right direction with the batman universe.
Back and forth is so on point, can't wait to see this these two together in the sequel.
I think it definitely makes sense to release this after the initial film. I agree with many who think Joker's presence would have stolen Riddler's ability to remain in the spotlight. But the fact that this scene was released so soon after the movie's initial release goes to show that they probably loved this scene and want us to have a greater understanding of this world and this Joker going forward. Cannot wait to see this come to fruition down the line.
The scene shows how much joker understands and sees the perspective of Batman like no other... Makes the spectator to wonder how much batman and joker have in common and makes the batman afraid of how much they have in common
I think if they added this scene it would take away from the Riddlers interrogation at the end as this reveals a lot of the same stuff and it would make the Riddler scene feel like old news. I like it but I also see why they took it out.
“Let’s get back to him..”
“Why?! Your so much more fun”
I LOVE THAT
I was so unsure about the actor who was cast as joker, I had only seen him in the eternals and I was a bit meeehhhh when I heard it was him. This scene shut my mouth and made me instantly keen for more.
Go check the “spaghetti scene” and the “bite scene” from “the killing of a sacred deer” He is an insane, terrific good actor
God this horror movie Batman universe is INSANE, people always talk about how dark and grim Gotham and the rogues are but Matt reeves actually was bold enough to make it a reality
This Joker looks like the kind of clown that would kill Robin with no hesitation. Barry Keoghan NAILED IT in that scene!!!
What I love about this scene is that it shows an already established relationship between Joker and Batman. It further fleshes out this version of Gotham.
This Joker looks scarred, he actually has the Joker smile scarred on his face.
I'm glad they did a unique take of the joker of instead of full joker and chemical reactions of skin, hair and smile they went for a birth defect of like never stop smiling and they did it in a beautifully horrific and terrifying way and I love this uniqueness
This seen was so chilling and well thought out, I think it would fit best after Alfred has been put in the hospital, as Bruce is very desperate to catch the riddler even more so after Alfred almost died
BRO I WAS JUST WATCHING THIS SCENE AND LITERALLY THOUGHT "Man I can't wait to see the Reel Boy's reaction to this!" AND HERE WE ARE LET'S FUCKING GO
I know what you mean
Decided to check this out. I actually think Joker isn’t talking about The Riddler at all. He’s talking about Batman himself. Which would make this even crazier when you think about it.
Peacemaker has Vigilante. And then The Ridler has this Joker. We all deserve supportive friends like these two in our lives.
They should save the Joker for the last movie, but he should be a constant presence in all movies.
This is Batman and the joker. The way the joker is fond of the Batman and obsessed and the way Batman can’t keep his eyes off him and knows how dangerous he is . This was just perfection
Really like the scene, but definitely think it would have overshadowed Riddler, as well as I think it’d just end up repeating beats that naturally come later.
i love how reeves captured the psychology of all of these characters. not just “guy crazy cause of society” but a man who is truly insane, yet so smart. one thing the movies always failed to show about joker is that he’s just as smart as batman. just as observant, just as detail oriented, just as skilled, he is batman’s opposite. the way he analyzed riddler from just his file was great. i hope they keep joker as the hannibal lecter type where he’s only used for information. at least until the 3rd movie
I’m glad they didn’t include this scene in the final cut bc IMO it doesn’t fit that well and we also have a similar scene setup with the riddler( them both sitting in Arkham across from Bruce). It’s still an amazing scene tho and I’m really glad they released it and can’t wait so see more of this joker 💜💜
This is why I like to give people the benefit of the doubt, because sometimes they surprise you, like this scene! I'm excited to see Barry return
The writing of the this scene would hurt the later reveals in the movie but everything else I really liked!
The Batman and joker dynamic is amazing if it’s done right, and I love it here.
Seeing how joker trying to get under his skin, Batman both finding him despicable, but also recognize the intelligence behind the madness
I see why this was cut from the movie but man this scene is so cool. I really love Barry as this joker. Can’t wait to see more and what they do with it
One of the greatest deleted scene of all for the producers. It sets up sequels if they wanted it, they tested their interpretation of another Joker (pass with flying colors), makes the audience speculate enough to google search the Joker actor and create theories, and having it as a deleted scene didn't conflict the spotlight for the Riddler.
Imagine having "The War of Jokes and Riddles" for future movies. That will be fun!
I'm excited to see more of this Joker. Imo his voice reminds me of the Joker from "The Joker blogs"
Which is basically heath ledger's joker with more of a new Yorker twang.. I like it! It fits since Gotham is basically New York.
This joker has that heath ledger‘s deep joker voice! :D
I love it! Keep doing your thing Mr Reeves. Would be fantastic to see This Joker built up throughout the Arkham series and then let him loose to cause chaos in the third installment
I wish they would have saved this scene for the beginning of the next movie. It was simply amazing!
A great scene, but I’m glad it was cut, I think it would’ve effected the pace quite a bit. I like to think it still happened we just didn’t see it obviously
His look is like a mix of Gotham / Lee Bermejo / New 52 Death of the Family Joker. Great performances and the chemistry is fantastic. I hope this is added to the blu ray cut.
It also gives more context to the gang at the beginning, in my mind it confirms they are joker goons
Oh he's channeling Heath Ledger soooo hard and I am soooooo here for this omgggg
Such silence of the lambs vibes, so clear, love it
This is a very very good scene. Having watched it, I can see why it was cut. The movie didn't "need" this scene, and as a director and editor, if it's not "needed" it shouldn't be in it. The movie is already nearly 3 hours long, so 5 more minutes wouldn't have made a difference in that regard, but Batman didn't need this interaction to find and stop The Riddler. I actually like the end tease better as it lets us know what could be as opposed to this which could make us think, what did we miss in Year One? Bookending the movie with the "Joker Gang" at the start and The Joker at the end is perfect.
This scene was so well done, I couldn’t imagine a sequel where this wasn’t squeezed in as a flashback scene.
You're reactions are always incredible
When i heard who was playinng the Joker, i was skeptical, then I saw the Penguin and realized Matt Reeves knows EXACTLY what he's doing🔥🔥
I think this scene is absolutely amazing and that he does such a great job as The Joker, but I think it was a very good decision to remove it because it would take away from The Riddler who was also such a fantastic villain
would love an extended cut with this in the movie
Yes! Your reacting to it! I told you it’s kinda disturbing, can’t wait to see more from his Joker 🃏
@big men they made a whole joker movie but to each their own 🍻
You guys aren't just a bunch of JOKERS like myself, you actually have critical input, great evaluations, and are great at articulating your thoughts. Cheers boys.
If you look closely at the scene, Joker steals the paperclip from the file that Batman gives him. Joker escape?
This deleted Joker scene falls in between Batman and Gordon investigating Pete Savage’s body at the Morgue and when Batman sends Selina into the ice burg lounge with his detective lenses. So damn good.
this scene is fantastic. I wish this was the Joker scene in the movie
Matt Reeves said this scene took place directly after the death of savage.
I am in love with this version of the batman universe, the whole Hannibal Lector vibe is amazing and very well fitting and i hope they utilise keoghan in the arkham asylum series.
The Joker design is a better version of the 2nd Joker on the GOTHAM show. I'm really digging the Hannibal Lecture and Will Graham vibes for Batman and The Joker too.
I love the detail of him knowing what to say to keep Batman’s attention JUST so he can get in the final joke
This felt like one of those deleted scenes that shouldn't have been deleted.
I’m new to this channel and don’t know your names but the expression of the dude on the right as the video opens up was so wholesome. What an exciting time to be a Batman fan 😆
I haven’t gotten to watching Eternals yet or any other things that Barry Keoghan has been in, but this deleted scene has now gotten me HOOKED & SPOOKED 😦🤯
They should 100% build up this eerie relationship between or in the movies, but save him as being the main or one of the bad guys in the final 3rd movie.
The little reference to heath leadger during the interrogation scene in tdk” I’m not a monster, I’m just ahead of the curve”
Nevermind.. I like this joker.
Love the comment about having this scene showing Joker becoming acquainted with Riddler's work through Batman and that leading to Joker's ability to manipulate Riddler during their time together in Arkham!
I personally hope the Joker isn’t the villain in the second one. I’d much rather have a truly terrifying Scarecrow or maybe Gotham during winter with Mr. Freeze as the villain
Mr. Freeze would def fit the theme of "Vengeance" vs "Justice" they've established. I hope they take inspo from Heart of Ice from BTAS
@@wholethedogsout880 I also really love Mr. Freeze in the Cold Cold Heart expansion in Batman: Arkham Origins
6:16 The HBO Max version of this same deleted scene shows the placement of it. It's first 50 seconds of it is the scene from the movie before this deleted one.
I mean I don't think anyone has mentioned it yet but do you think that the reason his skin looks all wounded, infected and covered in boils is that this joker could follow the "fallen into a cat of toxic waste/acid" origin story? or could it have just been like self harm or an explosion
If you look at the back of his head at 2:10 you will see that he has a very nasty looking deep scar on the back of his skull. Doesnt look like acid damage but looks more like severe blunt impact that may have caused a TBI.
This could have been Batmans doing as we see how brutal and physically vicious he can get in the film. Almost as if the Batman made his condition worse and he feels responsible.
only a theory tho
Edit* Something i also realized from reading about lobe locations on the brain. The area that the scar is located is directly above the parietal lobe. The parietal lobes functions description is "The parietal lobes are responsible for processing somatosensory information from the body; this includes touch, pain, temperature, and the sense of limb position"
Its a stretch but this injury could possibly make the Joker immune to pain
@@viewaskew7741 That is actually so cool. This batman likes using brute force so a villain who cannot feel his punches is the perfect counter as he has to learn to play mind games with the joker instead
@@-Tidae it would be very cool I this was the case and incredibly detailed on the filmmakers part. I still think the majority of the damage looks like acid, but that one on the back of his head look very much like a scar from blunt impact
Just the way Batman doesn't taunt him or fuck around shows you how awful this guy's crimes probably were. The most dangerous guy in the room