Jane was possibly, after her death, Henry's favorite wife solely due to her giving birth to a son, and then having the good sense to die before she managed to bore him insensible. Anne of Cleves was arguably the most fortunate, as she wound up being quite well off financially without having to endure the attentions of a grossly obese egoist.
Yeah, in practical terms, from what we can parse from the historical record, Jane was his favourite because she gave him a son and she died while his affection for her remained intact and his fondness hadn't withered. But he remained on good terms with Anne because she swiftly accepted divorce without opposition or trouble.
I'd like to see HH historians give an honest appraisal of Henry's reign. So often you hear documentary narrators calling him "England's greatest King" or similar. To me he was one of the worst. Self-centered, egotistic, vindictive, bloodthirsty, tyrannical, all come to mind when thinking of Henry VIII. Richard III is always painted as one of the worst kings, but if one goes by just the body count, Richard was a saint compared to Henry. I'd really like to see HH historians give a comprehensive evaluation of Henry's reign.
The truth of the matter is if you simply look at Henry VIII through the prism of his wives, he is a bad guy but outside of his wives, he was considered Henry the Great.
I don't think the thousands of people he had killed, the extant Church, or the Scots who tired to prevent his "Rough Wooing" of Mary would think he was so great.
You are confusing his personality to his reign. They are not the same. He turned England into a power as equal as France and Spain and increased its wealth by an almost unmeasurable amount.
I think you may be confusing another Henry. Henry VIII nearly bankrupt the country and severely debased the coinage by the end of his reign. Even after taking control of the church lands (which did bring enormous wealth to the crown), his wars and extravagant spending left the pound worth less than half what it was when he was crowned. His son Edward inherited an economy in shambles. From about 1544 on inflation skyrocketed.
Elizabeth the First was probably traumatised by Thomas Seymour AND her own father, seeing what marriage looked like then, having her mother decapitated on his orders etc. That plus the unwillingless to risk having her power stolen by a husband.
I've always thought it's possible that she just didn't want to die...so SO many women died in childbirth, if she got married it'd be hard to avoid pregnancy. Odds are eventually it would have killed her, and she knew that. By never getting married, she never had to even risk it. Just my two cents, obviously we can't know for sure!
The nephew of Catherine of Aragon was Holy Roman Emperor, Charles V of the Hapsburg Dynasty. I would have thought that HH would have done better editing and proof reading.
a few mistakes in this, Henry VIII actually married Katherine Parr 1 year and 4 months after Katheryn Howards execution. Also I think Suzannah Lipscombe's book is not The Last Year of Anne Boleyn, that was written by Natalie Grueninger.
It was impossible for Henry VIII to have a favorite, he was a narcissistic sociopath. Whether born that way or made that way as the result of a head injury.
I've always subscribed to the idea that he had syphilis. This would explain 1) his not being able to have healthy children and 2) his descent into insanity. He seems relatively normal for most of his marriage to Catherine, which I think people forget lasted 25 years. Edited for spelling
What gets me about Jane is that she an improvement on Anne Boleyn as she was kinder to Mary but she seemed to give Elizabeth the cold shoulder who was only 3 and needed Jane’s support as much as Mary did if not more given her age
It may just be a wording issue, but Pope Clement VII was not the nephew of Catherine of Aragon, maybe the narrator is referring to the Holy Roman Emperor Charles V, and king of Spain.
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Jane Seymour was no doubt his favorite, mainly because she gave him the heir he was desperately hoping for (even though he had an illegitimate son with one of his mistresses).
Having watched the Tudors, I believe he was a probably the worst king we have ever had. In fact I would go further and say the whole of the Tudor dynasty was vile. Murderous, arrogant, and greedy. For wealth and power.
They're also nearly single-handedly responsible for the Troubles. No Henry, no persecution of the Catholics--and maybe Ireland doesn't resist as much. No Tudors, no plantation of Northern Ireland. And not such a history of conflict between the two. It's interesting to think about.
my favorite quuen of Henry's is definetly Anne Boleyn. I think it curious that her story started like cindirella story but didn't end well like fairytale did
Of all the kings and queens of England, Henry VIII is my least favorite. Whether a head injury was to blame, or he was just plain ornery - either way, he was the worst.
@@MixedRaceAndProud1690 He had God knows how many people executed, his personal life was a disaster of his own making (but cost people their lives), he seemed to enjoy going to war, but wasn't terribly good at it, he left England in debt - twice devaluing the currency, and he destroyed historically important buildings all over the country, after looting them. King John was bad, but in my opinion, Henry VIII was worse.
@@curiousworld7912 - everyone has their own opinions & I thank you for replying .. there were plenty of true brave Kings, & Queens, of Britain but there were also some real bad ones that almost condemned Britain to foreign rulers .. have a great day 👍
@@curiousworld7912 I've seen arguments for calling him 'Henry the Great' (I disagree but they are interesting to read). Ignoring the Anglo-Saxon kings, few of whom actually ruled England as a complete entity, I'd argue that John, Stephen, Henry III, Edward II, Henry VI, Richard III, Charles I, James II, George II, George III, George IV, William IV, and Edward VIII, were all far lesser than Henry VIII. The big problem with analysing Henry's rule is that the 'bad' part is only a small portion of his reign. He didn't inherit a rich kingdom and neither did he bequeath one to his children but he did manage to create a powerful, more centralised, state despite the depredations of The Wars Of The Roses. Had Edward VI lived into manhood this process would have only been strengthened. Henry was wealthy enough to vie for the title of Holy Roman Emperor and can have some claim to being called 'Father of The Royal Navy'. Yes he lacked a moral compass in many respects and he debased the currency (this was common amongst medieval and Early-Modern monarchs so I don't hold that against him). He was a tyrant but so was Philip II of Spain and Louis XIV of France. Once he had Anne Boleyn executed it was all downhill yet ironically he was at the apex of his power whilst married to her. He could certainly have managed his realm and his personal life better, even making allowances for the standards of that era, but he was better than those I've listed in my opinion.
@@MixedRaceAndProud1690 Yes, England has had some great rulers, along with some not so great. But, I've always found English history fascinating. You're welcome, and I wish you the best. :)
why everytime you speak of a catholic you guys have to put the word "devout" in front of it?? As if all catholic were crazy hard-core believers which is not really the case... From a Catholic perspective, the protestant look way more devout ironically.
The notion that how absolutist the monarchy had become by Henry VIIIs reign is a key take away. Edward I, of Braveheart('s evil nemesis) fame, shouted at an adversary "By God, Sir Earl, thou shall leave here or hang", to which the earl replied, "By God, Lord King, I shall neither leave nor hang". And he wasn't hanged. By Henry VIII's time, a prince's anger did indeed mean death. By the way, the narator's definitely descended from Henry VIII, practically a mirror image.
Henry was a narcissist. Straight up. Not to mention, one of the worst people to ask about the Bible. That verse he used to seek his annulment from CoA, means that you shouldn’t sleep with your brother’s wife. If Henry really read the Bible, he would know there’s a passage that says you can marry your brother’s widow.
Catherine's nephew being the holy Roman emperor he owned about Spain Germany and the entire of central Europe and he was incontrol of the pope for so of course he forced the pope to support queen Catherine of Aragon of course that made Henry break away from the Roman Catholic church
Here are all his wiwes's descendants Catherine of aragon 🎉5 stillbirths🎉 And Mary l-married Philip lll of spain No childrens Anne boleyn 🎉Two stillbirths🎉and Elizabeth l(never Married or had kids) Jane Seymour Edward VI Did not have the time to marry and have Kids Anne of cleves No descendants Catherine Howard No descendants Catherine parr-married Thomas Seymour Mary Seymour(died young)
Quite recently I watched “The Private Life of Henry VII” from 1933. Really great. It’s available on RUclips
I haven’t finished it, but what I watched was really good!
Great Narration, really looking foward to see more content from her.
Agreed. She’s a great presenter!
She really did a wonderful job on this!
Fantastic narration, well done lass
Jane was possibly, after her death, Henry's favorite wife solely due to her giving birth to a son, and then having the good sense to die before she managed to bore him insensible. Anne of Cleves was arguably the most fortunate, as she wound up being quite well off financially without having to endure the attentions of a grossly obese egoist.
Absolutely agree with you 💯 percent on this!!!
Yeah, in practical terms, from what we can parse from the historical record, Jane was his favourite because she gave him a son and she died while his affection for her remained intact and his fondness hadn't withered. But he remained on good terms with Anne because she swiftly accepted divorce without opposition or trouble.
@@Blisterdude123 absolutely spot on!!
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I agree with you
I'd like to see HH historians give an honest appraisal of Henry's reign. So often you hear documentary narrators calling him "England's greatest King" or similar. To me he was one of the worst. Self-centered, egotistic, vindictive, bloodthirsty, tyrannical, all come to mind when thinking of Henry VIII. Richard III is always painted as one of the worst kings, but if one goes by just the body count, Richard was a saint compared to Henry. I'd really like to see HH historians give a comprehensive evaluation of Henry's reign.
The truth of the matter is if you simply look at Henry VIII through the prism of his wives, he is a bad guy but outside of his wives, he was considered Henry the Great.
I don't think the thousands of people he had killed, the extant Church, or the Scots who tired to prevent his "Rough Wooing" of Mary would think he was so great.
You aren’t looking at monarchies like a historian but a emotional simp.
You are confusing his personality to his reign. They are not the same. He turned England into a power as equal as France and Spain and increased its wealth by an almost unmeasurable amount.
I think you may be confusing another Henry. Henry VIII nearly bankrupt the country and severely debased the coinage by the end of his reign. Even after taking control of the church lands (which did bring enormous wealth to the crown), his wars and extravagant spending left the pound worth less than half what it was when he was crowned. His son Edward inherited an economy in shambles. From about 1544 on inflation skyrocketed.
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Elizabeth the First was probably traumatised by Thomas Seymour AND her own father, seeing what marriage looked like then, having her mother decapitated on his orders etc. That plus the unwillingless to risk having her power stolen by a husband.
I've always thought it's possible that she just didn't want to die...so SO many women died in childbirth, if she got married it'd be hard to avoid pregnancy. Odds are eventually it would have killed her, and she knew that. By never getting married, she never had to even risk it.
Just my two cents, obviously we can't know for sure!
I'd love to see you guys tackle some more 17th century stuff.
The nephew of Catherine of Aragon was Holy Roman Emperor, Charles V of the Hapsburg Dynasty. I would have thought that HH would have done better editing and proof reading.
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a few mistakes in this, Henry VIII actually married Katherine Parr 1 year and 4 months after Katheryn Howards execution. Also I think Suzannah Lipscombe's book is not The Last Year of Anne Boleyn, that was written by Natalie Grueninger.
Divorced, be headded, dies, divorced, be headded, survived
Actually annulled, beheaded, died, annulled, beheaded, survived. None of the wives were divorced, as this video says.
@@Swindondruid2 Exactly! Henry didn't believe in divorce, as he always considered himself to be a good Catholic.
@@stephenwodz7593LMAO-
@@Swindondruid2tbf divorce wasn’t really a thing back then
It was impossible for Henry VIII to have a favorite, he was a narcissistic sociopath. Whether born that way or made that way as the result of a head injury.
I've always subscribed to the idea that he had syphilis. This would explain 1) his not being able to have healthy children and 2) his descent into insanity. He seems relatively normal for most of his marriage to Catherine, which I think people forget lasted 25 years.
Edited for spelling
What gets me about Jane is that she an improvement on Anne Boleyn as she was kinder to Mary but she seemed to give Elizabeth the cold shoulder who was only 3 and needed Jane’s support as much as Mary did if not more given her age
Great host! I'd love to see some reformation printing press content :)
and here is me unable to get even one wife
Should've tried harder to become a king dude.
Trust me, ye don't want one, I've went threw 2 and I've learned the hard way..... Ye don't want one lol 😂
@@aituk closest i ever got was the ex calling me a "little princeling" 😬
@@beepboop204 Ex for a reason lad
It may just be a wording issue, but Pope Clement VII was not the nephew of Catherine of Aragon, maybe the narrator is referring to the Holy Roman Emperor Charles V, and king of Spain.
One tip. If you are going to mention money or other fortunes from way back in the past. Take your time to research what that would be in todays money 😊 most find it interesting and it is a nice but of relevant i formation
Jane Seymour was no doubt his favorite, mainly because she gave him the heir he was desperately hoping for (even though he had an illegitimate son with one of his mistresses).
A happy wife is a happy life wasn't exactly Henry the 8th motto.
Love your narration.
Having watched the Tudors, I believe he was a probably the worst king we have ever had. In fact I would go further and say the whole of the Tudor dynasty was vile. Murderous, arrogant, and greedy. For wealth and power.
They're also nearly single-handedly responsible for the Troubles. No Henry, no persecution of the Catholics--and maybe Ireland doesn't resist as much. No Tudors, no plantation of Northern Ireland. And not such a history of conflict between the two.
It's interesting to think about.
Great narration and dedication. But I could correct some info.
Thanks! ❤
my favorite quuen of Henry's is definetly Anne Boleyn. I think it curious that her story started like cindirella story but didn't end well like fairytale did
His favourite were Jane Seymour #3, Katherine Parr #6 and #1 Katherine of Aragon. Anne of Cleves #4 was the luckiest of all!
My favourite Queen? Brian May
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Ps: 7000£ in 1547 is approximately 1,85 million £ today
In the defense of Henry, Kings were supposed to have an heir asap to secure the throne. He was venerable with out one.
I'm sure even then.....wife killing and Queen killing would have been frowned upon in Europe
Blood soaked...good description
21:52 That’s Lady Jane Grey. She was executed in 1554 by Queen Mary, not Henry.
The nickname Flanders Mare is false and a Victorian invention. Cleves is nowhere near Flanders. Henry who was very well educated would know that.
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Of all the kings and queens of England, Henry VIII is my least favorite. Whether a head injury was to blame, or he was just plain ornery - either way, he was the worst.
What are the reasons for your thinking that he is the worst King of Britain ??
@@MixedRaceAndProud1690 He had God knows how many people executed, his personal life was a disaster of his own making (but cost people their lives), he seemed to enjoy going to war, but wasn't terribly good at it, he left England in debt - twice devaluing the currency, and he destroyed historically important buildings all over the country, after looting them. King John was bad, but in my opinion, Henry VIII was worse.
@@curiousworld7912 - everyone has their own opinions & I thank you for replying .. there were plenty of true brave Kings, & Queens, of Britain but there were also some real bad ones that almost condemned Britain to foreign rulers .. have a great day 👍
@@curiousworld7912 I've seen arguments for calling him 'Henry the Great' (I disagree but they are interesting to read). Ignoring the Anglo-Saxon kings, few of whom actually ruled England as a complete entity, I'd argue that John, Stephen, Henry III, Edward II, Henry VI, Richard III, Charles I, James II, George II, George III, George IV, William IV, and Edward VIII, were all far lesser than Henry VIII. The big problem with analysing Henry's rule is that the 'bad' part is only a small portion of his reign. He didn't inherit a rich kingdom and neither did he bequeath one to his children but he did manage to create a powerful, more centralised, state despite the depredations of The Wars Of The Roses. Had Edward VI lived into manhood this process would have only been strengthened. Henry was wealthy enough to vie for the title of Holy Roman Emperor and can have some claim to being called 'Father of The Royal Navy'. Yes he lacked a moral compass in many respects and he debased the currency (this was common amongst medieval and Early-Modern monarchs so I don't hold that against him). He was a tyrant but so was Philip II of Spain and Louis XIV of France. Once he had Anne Boleyn executed it was all downhill yet ironically he was at the apex of his power whilst married to her. He could certainly have managed his realm and his personal life better, even making allowances for the standards of that era, but he was better than those I've listed in my opinion.
@@MixedRaceAndProud1690 Yes, England has had some great rulers, along with some not so great. But, I've always found English history fascinating. You're welcome, and I wish you the best. :)
Henry had too many Thomas's in his life.
It could be worse, He could've been Stuart where everyone is either Mary, James or Charles.
Thomases
why everytime you speak of a catholic you guys have to put the word "devout" in front of it?? As if all catholic were crazy hard-core believers which is not really the case... From a Catholic perspective, the protestant look way more devout ironically.
Well... Henry wrote a treatise denouncing Luther's theses, I believe...
It would be nice to have seen the presenters name
Catherine parr will always be my favorite
Very interesting
And now I have "Ex wives" from Six stuck in my head 😜
I am from Bangladesh..... Can you give subtitle also.?
The notion that how absolutist the monarchy had become by Henry VIIIs reign is a key take away. Edward I, of Braveheart('s evil nemesis) fame, shouted at an adversary "By God, Sir Earl, thou shall leave here or hang", to which the earl replied, "By God, Lord King, I shall neither leave nor hang". And he wasn't hanged. By Henry VIII's time, a prince's anger did indeed mean death.
By the way, the narator's definitely descended from Henry VIII, practically a mirror image.
1. Henry VIII ruled for 38 years, not 36.
2. It was estimated that Henry VIII executed 40,000-57,000 people.
I love the presenter. Who is she?
03:00 - Syphilis? 🤔
He was only 15 and "a gentle boy". And she was 15 and a virgin. Not very likely.
@@Sgirlunless him mum passed it to him while she was pregnant. That can happen.
Henry was a narcissist. Straight up. Not to mention, one of the worst people to ask about the Bible. That verse he used to seek his annulment from CoA, means that you shouldn’t sleep with your brother’s wife. If Henry really read the Bible, he would know there’s a passage that says you can marry your brother’s widow.
I wanna think her ladies were telling stories that helped get her in trouble. Her temper alone wouldn’t have made her many allies
Jane Seymour
Ann and Henry were better as friends than lovers
9:25 what does she exactly say?
Catherine's nephew being the holy Roman emperor he owned about Spain Germany and the entire of central Europe and he was incontrol of the pope for so of course he forced the pope to support queen Catherine of Aragon of course that made Henry break away from the Roman Catholic church
@susanmorgan8833 I agree with due to Jane Seymour, giving a son to Henry the eighth
He requested to be buried next to Jane.
Queen Anne Boleyn
Can this young presenter girl slow down? Is this a race?
Now, whenever I hear "unwavering" I think chatgpt wrote it! Lol
Here are all his wiwes's descendants
Catherine of aragon
🎉5 stillbirths🎉 And Mary l-married Philip lll of spain
No childrens
Anne boleyn
🎉Two stillbirths🎉and Elizabeth l(never Married or had kids)
Jane Seymour
Edward VI
Did not have the time to marry and have Kids
Anne of cleves
No descendants
Catherine Howard
No descendants
Catherine parr-married Thomas Seymour
Mary Seymour(died young)
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Henry sinned with mistresses had babies with his mistresses
at 0:17 is that an Ermine toilet roll?
Henry VIII you missed out alot of history. Thankfully we are a Protestant country and not under the yoke of Rome
I think yoke of Rome possibly but a yoke of interessed King of old regime maybe in only patriotuc terms change but the same thing lol.
im going to unsubs so tired history chanel for history of England and US .. nothing else matter its just boring
This isn't an airport, no need to announce departures.
An English language history channel that deals with the English speaking world. Who would of believed it.