Greedy Car Dealers Are Ruining Enthusiast Car Sales, Except Subaru...
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
- After attempting to buy a Honda Civic Type R, VW Golf R, Honda Civic SI, Toyota GR Corolla and so on and so on. It was clear to me Subaru is benefiting from being a great brand to deal with!
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I went to a Honda dealership to see the new Civic Type R and they had a $20k market adjustment on top of the MSRP. They wanted $68,000 for it. Crazy.
For a civic! So crazy
I seen that same thing in a Honda in Tampa a couple months ago
You sound like a dummy for wasting your gas to get there
Dammmm ridiculous
That's nuts fleecing people
You hit some key points. I flirted with the WRX so many times because they are readiy available in any spec I want with $1000 off MSRP.
Thanks man! They are great cars for the money.
Que I'm stuck on Wrx vs integra 23s what would you get
Where i live they have a 2023 premium marked down 2000$ under msrp and 2024s marked down 1000$ under msrp
Your right about the dealers playing games. I was a prospective buyer in the market for Type R, Type S, GR Corolla, RS3, and Golf R but the mark up game killed it for me. I’ll stick with my Corolla hatchback XSE manual until they wake up and learn a few things from Subaru dealers.
I feel ya!
About 2.5 percent of the US population drives "sport cars". California, Texas and Florida have the highest percent, around 3.5 percent of the cars. Thanks for the video sir.
Interesting!
A bigger percentage might buy them if not marked up.
I regrettably bought a 2021 Crosstrek and boy did Subaru make driving so miserable. I want to crash into a wall just to get my insurance payout
Dang! Sorry to hear that!
This is a fact. I actually ended up getting a 2024 BRZ Limited for about $3,000-$4,000 less than what the Toyota dealership was asking for an 86. I really wanted the Toyota version, but the BRZ wins due to pricing. Subaru dealers are killing the market rn with affordable options.
Right on!
Before I bought my 23 WRX, I went to Honda dealer to see an Si. I was quoted $39K OTD (CA tax) 😂. Then they showed me breakdown of price and saw $5K markup. I immediately took civic Si of my list 😂
Good move!!
Picked up that BRZ I ordered last week. Very happy with it... And having fun adding some mods.
Your points about the WRX hold true for me. So much aftermarket for feel, handling, power, and looks. For the price of a marked up GR or Type R, you can easily build on the WRX to be a looker and handle very well, with enough money left over to not care if you mess with the engine/ECU and void your warranty. Or just wait to touch that stuff after a few years (what I'm doing).
Setting looks aside, a few quick mods completely change the way the car drives: stiff rear sway bar, Group-n pitch stop and transmission mount, a short throw, and some bushing inserts. My kid is already asking when I'll teach him to drive it.
One thing folks not familiar with WRX will want to install (and quickly), is a PCV side catch can. If you hammer on it a lot, then a CCV side is also not a bad idea. Oh and always let those boxers warm up ;-).
Great advice and parts to upgrade!
I too was tired of dealer games, couldn’t get a Toyota or Honda. Opted to buy an older WRX. My first choice was always going to be the new WRX, but Subaru let all the traditional new WRX buyers down. We all went in search of the Toyota and Hondas instead. I’ll never forget the live release video of the wrx and it was shot on a dusty road so you couldn’t see the rear.
Got it. Well glad you are buying an older WRX. What year did you get?
@@Gonin60 2 x 1999 models. In Australia.
Absolutely right on the point, was plan to get type r, after seen the mark up of almost every four cylinder turbo with manual, figure out the Subaru wrx is one of the best car you can get without markup and even below msrp. No BS no game with Subaru dealer, got my first brand new 23 wrx, below msrp, special interest rate 3.9 from subaru, the best part is that lifetime Powertrain warranty adding to my wrx without additional cost. 5k mile on my car now, I feel the more I drive the car, the more I enjoy it, it’s not the fastest 4 cylinder car, but you get the best performance for the money you spend. I’m not the fan of modifying car, so that lifetime warranty is perfect for me. As automotive technician, I’m going to see how many miles I can get with this new fa24 engine from factory without modifying.
You did great! I had a similar experience!
I agree I bought my base 22 wrx for 36k out the door with tire / wheel insurance, and extended warranty . CHASE APR 4.9 % WITH A 660 SCORE In Ohio
That’s a decent deal
@Gonin60 and the crazy thing I put 1000 down 613 a month x72 months
I negotiated 8% off MSRP on a WRX premium package 11 which is the one with no moonroof. The interest rate is what killed the deal and the fact that this car needs winter tires. Seems like inventory for this car is going to grow in the near future so Im holding late winter to jump back again.
I looked at a Civic Si… forget it no way Im paying more for an Si. Looks like a great car but I’ve had too many Hondas S2000, RSX-S, Civic Si 2018 and I currently own a 87 CRX Si.
Probably not a bad idea to wait!
A WRX with summer tires will perform better than most cars with winter tires, especially a front wheel drive. I run Michelin Pilot SPORT AS 4. In the snow with no problems.
Minus the usual finance office bs I was able to get my 22 a year ago at msrp without the hassle of other dealers.
Awesome!
Absolutely. Easy to get cars at MSRP. If you visit a few dealers and deal against each of them, you get below MSRP. I am now on my third Subaru because they gave me absolutely no grief, and had my back when things went wrong. 2018 STI Limited, 2022 Outback Wilderness and 2023 WRX Premium. Keep it up Subaru.
Easy depending on the brand
I just negotiated like $4k off on a ‘21 330i. I love the car.
Congrats!
Good stuff
Shout out Toyota and Honda for trying to screw me over .subaru gave me a good price !
Right on!
I'm seriously looking at this same car. Looks like a great car!
Thanks!
I've seen maybe 2 at most of the new Z car, it's like Nissan doesn't make the car or something and it's certainly not worth 60K MSRP maybe 45-50 and I definitely wouldn't pay any addendum 👎
Yep I agree!
Dealers are being incredibly greedy with the mark ups, the add ons etc. The market is coming around and the customers who were interested in these performance vehicles that were turned off by the dealers being egregious with said mark ups and add ons aren't going to want to do business with these dealerships. Gone are the times of taking care of loyal customers and everything is about $$$$ and greed. Greed and late stage capitalism have completely ruined everything from cars, to hobbies and more. Toyota and Honda intentionally holding back inventory, Dodge has completely overpriced all their vehicles, Ford same thing with mark ups, Chevy I mean I could go on. Subaru and Mazda are what Toyota and Honda used to be years ago. Readily available and purchasable and also you can even factory order and their salesman dont play any games.
Hopefully some things come back down to earth
Good video brother
Thanks man!
Amen! The more I drive my '23, the more I'm loving it!
Right on!
As much as I prefer the GR86, if I was in the market for one of the twins I'd be sorely tempted to just order a BRZ. I know I can factory order it and get it just how I want it as far as trim, options, and colors, and there seems to be a lot less Subaru dealerships that charge markup. They're out there for sure, but I tend to hear less stories. I guess because their enthusiast cars are seen as less desirable.
Luckily, I think I'm in a good position if I decide to order an MX-5 next year. The Club trim (which is what I'd be going for) are only built to order at this point, and I've purchased from two different Mazda dealerships and had a good experience with both. Plus, I have a third dealership constantly sending me emails and wanting to get my business, so I think I have a pretty good chance of scoring a good deal if I decide to go this route. It also helps that the 2024 MX-5 isn't a new model, and just has some evolutionary improvements over the previous year rather than revolutionary.
Right on! I’m excited to see what you end up doing. I agree
@@Gonin60 Thanks, Austin. About 85% set on going back to the MX-5 at this point, but still not fully convinced to sell the Camaro. Still waiting to get the final specs and pricing on the MX-5 for the U.S. market.
Its really sad how everything is, as you said “really hard to get and really expensive” because its just more of a clout game at this point. the game of who can flex the most money and if you tell them no they get butthurt and say “well i got some other shmuck who i can con.” whats also crazy is that a lot of the times they dont know everything about the car, and they just look at the badge and think “oH mAn LeTs mArK iT Up eVeN HiGhEr.” its the main reason why i dont even want to buy a new car. i have a eagle talon tsi awd and it keeps up with a good majority of new cars and yea i know that its a 30 year old car, but with how little mileage it has, id rather just spend the money and have more fun in that, and i mean ik its kinda weird to hear from an 18 yo but its my preference ig😅. Also semi-related, but i do appreciate all the videos on the new wrx and giving the honest truth, ive been helping my friend as he has an opportunity to buy one and you have been one of the few people who has really put the effort for someone who is new and i immediately recommended him to your channel so i really appreciate you for that!
That means a lot! Thank you for the kind words!
Bro are you snowed in or something, or waiting for the next new ride to come in🤫
Hey there! I’m alive! Vids will start up again in Feb if that’s what you’re asking.
@@Gonin60 Just making sure you're ok
@@JoeSmith-nu8oo thank you! I appreciate that!
100% Chase Bank FTW!!! My third Subie financed with them, this time my 20 WRX...3% rate, and my score is not stellar. Not gonna lie, Subaru Dealers, Subaru of America and Chase Bank have been really good to me.
Yep!!
I want the new WRX! Can’t beat under 30k brand new with a warranty, they are a steal. I have bought two crosstrek from Subaru and both buying experiences were straightforward and great. When I go to another dealership first thing they want is to hold my ass hostage and feed some BS. Bro I’m not trying to make friends give a deal bc I don’t even want to deal with a middle man and I don’t fking want GAP shit either hahah
Haha exactly!
wrong. they still tried to sell me a used GR86/BRZ for 36k. told them a new premium is around 33k and they refused to negotiate. OTD was nearly 41k.
Some Nissan dealer tried to sell me a used 2022 BRZ Limited 6AT for $40k a few months ago and I walked right outta there. Three weeks ago I placed an order at Subaru for a brand new 2024 BRZ TS for the same price (including a $1k markup I only agreed to because I'm impatient and the other nearby Subaru dealership who told me there would be no markup didn't have any orders available yet).
Subaru did this?
@@Gonin60 yes ; in Austin.
Your right next time I get a raise i get one
Hope it comes
😊👍 Nice car!
You can do what you want, obviously, but the driving POV would be a lot better without your hands on top of the steering wheel. I hadn’t really thought about it, but I heard the theory that driving with your hands, arms over the steering wheel airbag is a good way to get a hand and/or arm smashed into your face if the airbag deploys. I need to remind my wife of this fact too often. Thanks for sharing. Have a great day! ✌️😊🖖
Thanks
🙂
@2:03....that 'option' list though.....🤣🤣🤣🤣....500$ for a cargo tray.....400 for R logo center caps....🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂....naaah bruh....they puffin' that good good.
Right?? lol
Kinda hard to not mention the q50 and q60
How so?
Will Subaru release an STI version?
Not in the near future. It’s supposed to be electric
@@Gonin60 RIP Subaru.
Dealers are the worst form of scum. I may go the WRX route. No games.
Not all dealers but some for sure
Apex?
Hahah yes
I want one
Sweet!!
Car price crash incoming
Yeah I agree
Need Trump back
Sounds good
Did you finally put on appropriate tires for the snow? lol
He sold his Wrx for a golf R
Thanks for watching!
subi, if you want a engine to blow up with any modifications. Perfect
Waiting for the diehard subi boys showing 1 off cars that made high hp and still driving.
Okay