I haven't gotten to that part of the video yet but I'm confused by your comment. The creature must die to be returned as a land. The land has an ability to pay some mana and tap the land to transform it and it would be tapped as it transforms back into the god.
@@nickjoseph77 Spoiler Alert!!! The misplay greatly impacts the games setting and finishing a win that shouldn't have happened in the fashion it occurred.
I see what you're trying to say now with the god. The land doesn't untap upon transforming so Stephen attacked with a creature that should have been tapped multiple times.
Unfortunately it happens like this from time to time because they play with different cards every week and new cards every 2 months and no one closely reads what anyone else plays.
@@CoreyBMTGoh man that was mean my nephew and me were play testing our bloomburrow precons and i modified mine and somehow managed to get all 4 prevent all damage spells in the deck....yeah i looked at him when i drew the last one and said this isnt fair for 1v1 espically since my decks a modified ms.bumbleflower deck
he may have misplayed, but that last statement is no longer true, a lot of card text have been changed on wizards and not the physical card to fit rulings.
28:40 there is snapback and while not technically an "unsummon" effect there is also submerge both potentially free spells. Unless he knows he doesn't have those in the decklist otherwise those cards do in fact exist.
"let us know what you think of these commanders" yeah, uh, I would if I knew what they were. Please introduce them next time, or at least show the cards on the screen at the start?
Steven and Cory's got played, I believe Jeremy had Iona which basically says "Pick a color, lock that color from being played," banned for basically nuking mono-color decks. I don't actually know Jon's.
I'd have kept it to Braids, Erayo, Leovold, and Rofellos, since they are the ones on the list for being powerful commanders. Griselbrand, Iona, and Emrakul are on the list due to being cheated out, not cast from the command zone. Lutri is banned for being a free companion and Golos got the hit for being the default 5C commander.
Can't say I really saw much of what the other commanders could do. It was essentially an entire episode of counter & bounce. Great to see everyone keep in the spirit pf things though.
This just reminds me of a pod i was in. Some friends just kept saying, " dang i dont know why but all my cards say (attack friend)." Then proceeded to tunnel vision him
Did they take away the rule about losing a point if you don't cast your commander? I know Jeremy got one point for first blood but that is the only one I remember.
Stephen definitely deserves to lose a point for cheating 3 times. Varragoth tutors to the top and bat god is tapped when it transforms so it couldn't have attacked either time.
Steven had a number of misplays, and ultimately could have lost the game pretty easily. Think he should lose a point, not because I believe he did it out of malice, but because I feel that game is a toss up, rather muddy who the winner would have been had the misplays not occurred.
I've played technically 2 illegal commanders, first was making lorescale coatle as a commander which was a funny deck, and also Phiobie from unstable as a commander which was the only deck one of my old buddies hated
You know what. You may be getting better views from this because it's a noxious situation. (The Zoomers need to hear this and the best part is they don't communicate). I've always been about how the ban list works, I've got all my non cEDH decks with no fast mana no tutors (land tutors excluding). The EDH format is better without these. cEDH is different because you need those to be 'c' - Competitive. The best part is I play other formats... Aus Highlander and Can Highlander. I love competition after 16 years this is why you have multiple formats to enjoy all the cards.
@@gesjiosyncesta6251 rofellos is one mana cheaper and requires no deck synergy other than "play lands". Marwyn requires that you play elves and selvala requires that you play big creatures. Yes, those are things green already wants to do, but synergy requirements and costing 1 more mana makes them definitely worse than rofellos.
@@andrewb378 you get Marwyn and Selvala out on turn 2 really damn consistent and both are accelerating way faster. when I tested it out with friends we felt like Rofellos accelerates way slower than the other 2 which lead to winning less often. I do believe Rofellos is strong and probably way too good for casual since he would become the "best" green commander if you dont want to go tribal or synergy based like Marwyn/Selvala. but if I would need to pick the stronger deck it would be Marwyn and Selvala.
I understand why it was popular but man I HATED playing against it. It’s good to see you understood the ban instead of whining about it, I’m honestly glad it’s gone.
14:34 my friends mom was a teacher and had a girl from West Asia area and her parents named her Shi-th-ead. And of course when she read it she saw and read it as, sh** head
The current banlist needs to be removed and rebuilt from the ground up. Rofellos is the only Commander that doesn't make you 100% kill on sight at a table, while: Griselbrand would be focused solely because of the assumed turbo [Even though K'rrik would be better with Grisel in the 99], Iona would be focused because people would assume there's a Painter's Servant in the 99, and Erayo would be focused because Blue AND the flip. In the 99, I can only see Erayo being an actual threat in the 99 because there's a high likelihood of it just being a controlly Blue deck is high, where as Iona would still be high enough cost to be enough to hinder it unless you planned on trying to power/cheat it out, and Grisel would lead to more draw hate in the format. Rofellos is just what Green already does: Big dumb mana. And of the four, I rather just have Iona for the 99 of my Jodah deck.
As someone who has this discussion quite often I can tell you the banned list really isn't that bad. Most of the cards on there are there out of necessity or for the spirit of the game. While there are likely a few cards that could sneak off the list its unlikely mostly due to fear of being abused to easily. Besides there hasn't been an unnecessary banning in quite some time and they're very good about letting things stick around to be tested before putting them on the block. Outside if Lutri but that was a necessity at the time 😅
Wasn't just selling the ones they had it was the buy out of all the inventions and regular foils the day before they announced the unban... old RC was just insider trading
boring... bring the decks a bit more up to power and this won't be trash casual gameplay... once you join cEDH tournaments seeing this hurts my eyes... cringe
@@AgonalRhythmyea… I get the sentiment of what they’re trying to say, but man is their mannerisms just terrible. If you want to watch cEDH gameplay, go find Playing with Power, Play to Win, Scrybabies or the other myriad of channels. I prefer the casual gameplay they do here with a little cEDH sprinkled in.
Of course Jeremy gets the one that's NOT an issue as a commander. Don't get me wrong, she deserves to be banned. She's just a bigger problem in the 99 rather than as a commander.
Aclazotz, Deepest Betrayal transforms meaning it never leaves the battlefield from being tapped as a land to activate it's second ability.
This. Also, the Strip Mine would have saved Jeremy if he responded to the activation.
I haven't gotten to that part of the video yet but I'm confused by your comment. The creature must die to be returned as a land. The land has an ability to pay some mana and tap the land to transform it and it would be tapped as it transforms back into the god.
@@nickjoseph77 Spoiler Alert!!! The misplay greatly impacts the games setting and finishing a win that shouldn't have happened in the fashion it occurred.
I see what you're trying to say now with the god. The land doesn't untap upon transforming so Stephen attacked with a creature that should have been tapped multiple times.
Unfortunately it happens like this from time to time because they play with different cards every week and new cards every 2 months and no one closely reads what anyone else plays.
It's very nice of Britney to support the show
Jeremy could have responded to the activation by strip mining the land right?
Best play of the game is Corey snapping allosaurus sheperd back to Johns hand and countering his green spell. For a minute he looked crushed 😂😂😂
I got him so good!!!
@@CoreyBMTGoh man that was mean my nephew and me were play testing our bloomburrow precons and i modified mine and somehow managed to get all 4 prevent all damage spells in the deck....yeah i looked at him when i drew the last one and said this isnt fair for 1v1 espically since my decks a modified ms.bumbleflower deck
Varragoth tutors to the top of the deck, Steven misplayed. Reading the card explains the card.
he may have misplayed, but that last statement is no longer true, a lot of card text have been changed on wizards and not the physical card to fit rulings.
I wonder how Corey feels about his "This card should be banned" comment at the end now hahaha
Gotta respect Corey putting the giant target on his head by showcasing why that commander is banned.
As if the others needed more reason to just attack Corey. This is just like when everyone just attacked Justin all the time. So boring.
The fact Corey did what he did on his turn 2, yeah, that is a fine candidate to show why Erayo is a banned card
Corey should have been allowed to play Emrakul.
It's funny at the end of the game Corey goes "Mana crypt should be banned". And here we are :)
28:40 there is snapback and while not technically an "unsummon" effect there is also submerge both potentially free spells. Unless he knows he doesn't have those in the decklist otherwise those cards do in fact exist.
aclazotz taps to transform. which means Stephen attacking with it was not allowed
Love the banned commanders idea, fun game 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Transforming the land into the creature doesn't untap it
The way it ended is HILARIOUS lmaoooo
well, this episode did NOT convince me that the commitee did a good job with the banlist.
19:10 best joke ever 😂😂😂😂😂
Hahahah love it.
"let us know what you think of these commanders"
yeah, uh, I would if I knew what they were. Please introduce them next time, or at least show the cards on the screen at the start?
Steven and Cory's got played, I believe Jeremy had Iona which basically says "Pick a color, lock that color from being played," banned for basically nuking mono-color decks. I don't actually know Jon's.
@@MythrilShotgun Rofellos, Llanowar Visionary. Taps for a green for each forest you control
I'd have kept it to Braids, Erayo, Leovold, and Rofellos, since they are the ones on the list for being powerful commanders. Griselbrand, Iona, and Emrakul are on the list due to being cheated out, not cast from the command zone. Lutri is banned for being a free companion and Golos got the hit for being the default 5C commander.
Can't say I really saw much of what the other commanders could do. It was essentially an entire episode of counter & bounce. Great to see everyone keep in the spirit pf things though.
blue and black showed very well why they are banned cards. All that control, and drawing enough cards that playing into it wasn't a problem
This just reminds me of a pod i was in. Some friends just kept saying, " dang i dont know why but all my cards say (attack friend)." Then proceeded to tunnel vision him
Corey!!!! Why?! 😂 As a Corey myself I back you 100% great plays this game, bet you would have won🎉
Always love the weekly episode
One dude keeps lookin at Corey’s hand like through the whole episode
I do not know all my MTG art, thus only knew one of the commanders played, lesigh
I have to wonder if Jeremy had Helm of the Host in his Iona deck.
Amazing way to end
Missed an opportunity to let Cory play Emrakul. Would have been hilarious
They had no idea
Let's see more of these commanders
Scary decks
"I ain't got censorship"
Lololol
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Cory loses so many points by never saving anyone.😅
I feel like Jeremy got screwed.
He really did. Bro did nothing all game and gets dunked on by Steven even though he did all the work to get Corey low.
How did Thought Monitor trade with Windborn?
Because of Stephen's Maha setting base toughness of opponent creatures to 1.
@@Universum oh of course thank you
i dont watch the show very much, but every time i do corey is the butt end of everyones jokes. i feel bad for him.
Did they take away the rule about losing a point if you don't cast your commander? I know Jeremy got one point for first blood but that is the only one I remember.
They get one point for last place.
Epic game
I think this is the quickest corey dies xD
I deserved it this time. 😅
@@CoreyBMTG i mean ur not wrong xD lol
But MOST OF THE TIME I don’t deserve it. 😅
@@CoreyBMTG im going to submitt the best and funniest deck for u and i hope u win xD. Tho one day id like to play a match with ya
Why is Stephen sacrificing kill spells? He could have killed Cory's commander while he only had 2 cards in hand (meaning he couldn't immediately flip)
Corey's commander flipped into an enchantment and was no longer a creature
Even if it was a creature, spellskite could redirect any resolved kill spell and then emry can even reanimate the spellskite on corey’s following turn
Stephen definitely deserves to lose a point for cheating 3 times. Varragoth tutors to the top and bat god is tapped when it transforms so it couldn't have attacked either time.
Cory has snow covered island aren’t they a different name
Steven had a number of misplays, and ultimately could have lost the game pretty easily.
Think he should lose a point, not because I believe he did it out of malice, but because I feel that game is a toss up, rather muddy who the winner would have been had the misplays not occurred.
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I would love if every single game was this level of power (not meaning the ban commanders, but the construction of the decks)
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Ban Corey for using evens as damage for Mana Crypt
Put your hands down you child
Unban Griselbrand ‼️
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just use krosan grip or whatever that split second card is, suprised that isnt in thegreen deck
I've played technically 2 illegal commanders, first was making lorescale coatle as a commander which was a funny deck, and also Phiobie from unstable as a commander which was the only deck one of my old buddies hated
You know what. You may be getting better views from this because it's a noxious situation. (The Zoomers need to hear this and the best part is they don't communicate). I've always been about how the ban list works, I've got all my non cEDH decks with no fast mana no tutors (land tutors excluding). The EDH format is better without these. cEDH is different because you need those to be 'c' - Competitive. The best part is I play other formats... Aus Highlander and Can Highlander. I love competition after 16 years this is why you have multiple formats to enjoy all the cards.
Erayo is 100% correct ban, but rofellos and gbrand not as game ruining
Rofellos is vastly too powerful in commander. Griselbrand is too powerful in the 99.
Rofellos looks weak because Erayo is dumb. If it was unbanned it would be far and away the strongest green commander.
marwyn the nurturer and selvala heart of the wilds are actually the same or might even be better than Rofellos in terms of ramp.
@@gesjiosyncesta6251 rofellos is one mana cheaper and requires no deck synergy other than "play lands". Marwyn requires that you play elves and selvala requires that you play big creatures. Yes, those are things green already wants to do, but synergy requirements and costing 1 more mana makes them definitely worse than rofellos.
@@andrewb378 you get Marwyn and Selvala out on turn 2 really damn consistent and both are accelerating way faster. when I tested it out with friends we felt like Rofellos accelerates way slower than the other 2 which lead to winning less often.
I do believe Rofellos is strong and probably way too good for casual since he would become the "best" green commander if you dont want to go tribal or synergy based like Marwyn/Selvala. but if I would need to pick the stronger deck it would be Marwyn and Selvala.
Didn't Jeremy get First Blood? So he should have two points?
And negative one for not casting his commander.
Didn't cast iona
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I played Golos before its banned. I'm sad it banned but I also understand
I understand why it was popular but man I HATED playing against it. It’s good to see you understood the ban instead of whining about it, I’m honestly glad it’s gone.
14:34 my friends mom was a teacher and had a girl from West Asia area and her parents named her Shi-th-ead. And of course when she read it she saw and read it as, sh** head
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The current banlist needs to be removed and rebuilt from the ground up. Rofellos is the only Commander that doesn't make you 100% kill on sight at a table, while: Griselbrand would be focused solely because of the assumed turbo [Even though K'rrik would be better with Grisel in the 99], Iona would be focused because people would assume there's a Painter's Servant in the 99, and Erayo would be focused because Blue AND the flip.
In the 99, I can only see Erayo being an actual threat in the 99 because there's a high likelihood of it just being a controlly Blue deck is high, where as Iona would still be high enough cost to be enough to hinder it unless you planned on trying to power/cheat it out, and Grisel would lead to more draw hate in the format. Rofellos is just what Green already does: Big dumb mana. And of the four, I rather just have Iona for the 99 of my Jodah deck.
As someone who has this discussion quite often I can tell you the banned list really isn't that bad. Most of the cards on there are there out of necessity or for the spirit of the game. While there are likely a few cards that could sneak off the list its unlikely mostly due to fear of being abused to easily.
Besides there hasn't been an unnecessary banning in quite some time and they're very good about letting things stick around to be tested before putting them on the block. Outside if Lutri but that was a necessity at the time 😅
Iona was only banned so someone on the rules committee could sell all their painters servants, which got unbanned at the same time
Wasn't just selling the ones they had it was the buy out of all the inventions and regular foils the day before they announced the unban... old RC was just insider trading
Nah. The gameplay loop of "I turn off your deck have fun not playing" just sucks. As much as I'd love for Iona to be legal, it won't be.
I am once again begging you to get rid of the loud background music
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Why is Cory always so smug and annoying?
First?
boring... bring the decks a bit more up to power and this won't be trash casual gameplay... once you join cEDH tournaments seeing this hurts my eyes... cringe
I feel lucky most of the cEDH people I know and play with don't have as terrible an attitude as you
@@AgonalRhythmyea… I get the sentiment of what they’re trying to say, but man is their mannerisms just terrible. If you want to watch cEDH gameplay, go find Playing with Power, Play to Win, Scrybabies or the other myriad of channels. I prefer the casual gameplay they do here with a little cEDH sprinkled in.
you still a troll huh?
Wah wah wah, buh bye then :)
There are many other channels to watch for cEDH
Of course Jeremy gets the one that's NOT an issue as a commander. Don't get me wrong, she deserves to be banned. She's just a bigger problem in the 99 rather than as a commander.