He mentioned pivoting the saw between 2 branches - The number one way to get unexpected kickback because you're concentrating on the limb you're cutting and not on where the tip is - cutting up under another branch. This video covered everything. Be aware of what you're doing and where your bar is at all times. Oh, and one more thing - NEVER walk with a running saw without first engaging the chain brake.
I wish I had a teacher like this when I was at school, he just seems to make you listen! Showing the battery drill as a kickback analogy enabled me to understand everything he subsequently said. I'm 63, and getting my first chainsaw tomorrow!
Well, if your company is smart, and you are in the US, your company is liable by law under OSHA to train and inform you on potential dangers and safety measures. Though I personally believe EVERYONE should watch these videos, just for general safety for everyone to know how to use tools, never know when it'll come in handy.
I've been using a tiny pos electric chain saw, but finally purchased a real chainsaw and decided I should do some research before using it. Glad I did! Found this video before I hurt myself. Thank you so much for sharing this.
Possibly redundant by now, but if you haven't, try one of the basic chainsaw operator courses if they're available in your country/region, it makes a world of difference. In the UK it's the CS30/31 combined course.
learned a lot. I never had a bad kick back event and didn't understand how it could happen. I actually thought it was a BS scare tactic.This was very well explained. thank you for the video.
I worked in a hospital emerg room - I saw one kick back incident- guy was missing most of his lower jaw some of his upper mouth (missing most of his teeth too) and you could literally lift his cheek and see nothing but bone underneath like it was a flap. He got life flighted to the nearest major trauma center from our hospital. Nasty shit.
@@John_Gillmandude is a dumb a. He was using a chainsaw on a ladder, strike 1. Tried cutting with the tip of the bar above his head, strike 2. The only thing that saved him is the chain brake.
What a fantastic narrator - riveting performance - John Wayne does Kickback. Hope the man is still kicking as that was filmed 25 years ago, but the content is still very pertinent.
Cutting with full rev is so important, i see so many people for no reason tapping the throttle button for no reason when cutting, i know you can use it when making a cut, but if you are bucking some wood, just keep it under full rev from start to the end of the cut. You can hit something with the tip of the bar with full rev, and it digs in, but as soon as you release it, it kicks back. Also the keep left arm straight truly saved me so many times when it happens. Also, smaller saws/bars are more prone to kickback, and is much more violently in my experiense.
I expected this to be some B.S. overblown safety video but it was actually very informative and well done. I knew about kickback, but never really considered what could be done to prevent it.
This video is great, informative, practical, and not fear mongering. I just bought my first chainsaw and other videos made me scared to even use it. Now I think I can give it a try. Thanks Workplace North.
This is an excellent video and the most informative I have seen on kickback. Been running saws all my life and (thankfully) never experienced a critical kickback, in fact, to the point that I wondered if it is really real. Now I see how easy it can happen, and how that ease grows with fatigue and complacency. Thank you "Workplace Safety North" for posting a First Class safety video!
Glad that I found this excellent video before heading out to cut wood...so much info presented so well in just 10 min. Thanks for sharing a lifelong learning in this little video.
My grandpa worked as a faller, and bucker for almost 30 years. He had a couple kickback accidents, luckily they weren’t severe, and he witnessed a few accidents from his coworkers. The woods is a dangerous place to work in. Even working around the house with a chainsaw is dangerous. I remember the first time I used one, my grandpa specifically told me this. “You better make sure that saw does not touch anything at the tip, because if that saw kicks back, you’re done. Those sons of bitches have no mercy!” So I would like to say thank you to my grandpa, and the people who made this video! Hopefully others will watch this and take it seriously!
8:56 - "That's also why you have to start EVERY CUT under FULL POWER and keep it up until you are finished". This is the first time I've heard any chainsaw instruction or safety video explicitly say this! I've been wondering about this for years! See, I thought by not putting the saw at full speed you will be safer if anything happens (kickback, what-have-you) -- driving a car faster usually results in more damaging accidents that ones at a slower speed. But, every time I've tried to "vary" the chainsaw speed while cutting it has kicked back!
great video..only differences from what i was taught in the uk in always have the saw up against ur knee ur whole body weight resists the kick back as much as possible, and if it does happen the saw passes by ur side not over ur head, and also remember to use the pushing or pulling side of the bar in the right circumstances and avoid the potential of a kick back as much as possible by making sure the saw runs away from you if anything
Complacently just kicked my you know what. I had been cutting all week. End of the week, 2 hour job finish, and while I hastily wanted to get home I left my chaps in the truck. 20' from me, second limb saw bucked hit my left knee, 27 staples, cut half way through my upper thigh tendon. 4 weeks of crunches. Always wear PPE{personal protective equipment}.
thank you best safety video regarding chainsaw kickback and how to bother understand and prevent it plus how to protect yourself too. i recommend everyone who just bought a chainsaw to watch this video first. and i will be making sure anyone who uses my chainsaw has either watched this video or are already experts in using a chainsaw properly and safely.
Brilliant advice! My son died instantly, in Feb2016, 20ft up a tree when the top-handled saw he was using kicked back. With handles so close together on the saw he could not have used the 'locked elbow' technique. I reckon it hit him in 1/3 of the time it took the chain brake to work. The cut went through his neck to his spine. Top-handled saws are so lively they should ALWAYS be fitted with bar-tip guards to eliminate kickback for climbers.
Great video! There is a video on RUclips of an injury to a man't forearm from a chainsaw. Do you not need to wear any arm protection? I had no idea about the technical aspects of sharpening and using a depth gauge. I'm way way safer now than before - thank you. Subscribed.
Good, clear....and fluent explanation. It's great to hear someone articulate who doesn't stumble with 'um' and 'er' or pad the time out with needless repetition or rambling. And not a single use of 'like'....which nowadays is obligatory several times in every Millenial's every sentence. Bravo!
My situation at present is that I have just purchased a baby chainsaw (I know - still dangerous) and before I even use it, I will get myself some chainsaw boots, chaps etc. as I already have goggles and ear protection with no need for a hard hat because I am not felling trees or de-limbing or that sorta thing. What I am attempting to do is to reduce the height of my hedges for which I normally use a hedge trimmer but I don't want to damage it by trying to cut through some branches that have become as thick as 3" !!! So ... where do I stand with the following scenario - cutting mostly across as opposed to up or down AND having to stand on a ladder or platform. I won't lie and say that I am not at least a little nervous so any advice or other youtube links along these lines would be gratefully appreciated...
Respect deserving guy. 100%, AMEN, shout it from the mountain tops. Your PPE IS the last line of defense. Your attitude is your first. Your brain is your second. Everything else is situational and somewhere in between attitude and PPE.
thanks a lot. very informative. say if I were cutting a large diameter tree stump, horizontally, what can I do to avoid kickback and getting the tip stuck on this one ? maybe use a larger saw ?? cheers
I usually try to use the rear of the saw as much for cutting to prevent kick back. Was told by old timer. Never use tip for cutting been cutting since I was about 7 to 8 yrs old I'm 35 now.
Easy. Avoid starting cut with "danger quadrant", the upper part of the tip. Start the cut with the lower half of the tip, and gradually transition to using the full tip. Of course, at all times keep all body parts "out of the plane of the chain" and not behind saw. You can't get hit there. Bet you knew that, and were just trolling.
What about the safety bar tip. This prevents the kickback area from touching anything. I just installed one on my echo cs-400. I don't see the pros using this. Maybe it's for weekend chainsaw users like me.
I have a feeling that the modern Chainsaws of today have what's known as an Inertia Chainbrake. What that means is that if the tip of the guide bar strikes a solid object, the Chainbrake automatically activates, without the operater having to react. I'm not sure if the process only works if the chainsaw is being used vertically, or if it works when being used both horizontally and vertically
The chainbreak is activated when the saw slams back into the operator's hand on the handle bar. If somebody is not using two hands the chainbreak will not function. And regardless, a high powered saw can still fly out of the operators hand and is still dangerous after the chain stops, as it only stops after the saw is already coming backward with momentum. The example in the video that saw has a chain break but flew out of the users hand.
Although this is a good video and does indeed teach the proper safety precautions to avoid kickback, his explanation of why kickback happens is somewhat flawed. You see, a sudden stop of the chain will not have nearly as much effect as the real reason for kickback. Try revving up your saw to full speed and slamming on your chain brake. The saw should kick a little, yes, but nothing too uncontrollable. What really happens in the event of kickback is the chain not cutting, but lodging itself in the wood, and by the power of both the inertia of the chain and the continued force from the motor, the chain “climbs”, so to speak, up whatever you're cutting and launches itself upwards. The only place on the bar where the chain is running vertically is, of course, the nose, and thus, this is where kickback happens. Again, I fully support this video as a pedagogical and preventive tool, but if you want to learn about the real forces at play and further understand the tool with which you are working, other videos or literature may be the answer.
Both effects come into play. Try putting the tip of a chainsaw in a vice and then rev it up. Use a string to rev it from a safe distance because I guarantee it will kickback.
Julia Gale If you work with chainsaw you’ll experience them once in awhile and yeah it’s frightening I’ve had it happen a few times but the brake saved my ass many times...no warning the saw just comes flying fast back at you even if you are holding it tight
If you meet somebody resolutely overconfident on the subject of chainsaws, point them toward (by way of an example) the Journal of Traumatic Injury's submission by Han Joo Choi in 2019 (warning, it's very graphic, but the man did survive). Also, whoever and wherever you are, do a first aid course with trauma treatment, and then buy yourself some hemostatic (celex or similar) gauze or powder. Several people I've worked with know people whose lives were saved by it. The Korean guy in the above article also owes his life to it.
This fella is the type of guy you want to listen to. Very credible wisdom.
👍
He mentioned pivoting the saw between 2 branches - The number one way to get unexpected kickback because you're concentrating on the limb you're cutting and not on where the tip is - cutting up under another branch.
This video covered everything. Be aware of what you're doing and where your bar is at all times.
Oh, and one more thing - NEVER walk with a running saw without first engaging the chain brake.
7:36: There's a lot of things you can do prevent kickback and all you have to do is ALL OF THEM. . . ALL THE TIME!!!
and sharp chain
One of the best chainsaw safety videos I have seen
Outstanding tutorial. To the point, packed with information from an experienced "competent" person and concise. Thanks.
I wish I had a teacher like this when I was at school, he just seems to make you listen!
Showing the battery drill as a kickback analogy enabled me to understand everything he subsequently said. I'm 63, and getting my first chainsaw tomorrow!
this has to be one of the best health and safety videos i've seen. he is such a good speaker
Everyone should see this before using a chainsaw.
Well, if your company is smart, and you are in the US, your company is liable by law under OSHA to train and inform you on potential dangers and safety measures.
Though I personally believe EVERYONE should watch these videos, just for general safety for everyone to know how to use tools, never know when it'll come in handy.
@@gorgeousfreeman1318 I didn’t mention a business.... obviously they’d have training. I meant this is a great video for DIY people to see.
@@mdhaynie Yeah I agreed
My second paragraph mentions that, but yeah.
Not just see it, but learn from it and put it into practice
I like this guy.
I've been using a tiny pos electric chain saw, but finally purchased a real chainsaw and decided I should do some research before using it. Glad I did! Found this video before I hurt myself. Thank you so much for sharing this.
Possibly redundant by now, but if you haven't, try one of the basic chainsaw operator courses if they're available in your country/region, it makes a world of difference. In the UK it's the CS30/31 combined course.
learned a lot. I never had a bad kick back event and didn't understand how it could happen. I actually thought it was a BS scare tactic.This was very well explained. thank you for the video.
Yeah that's how it's designed so thank god chain break is invented
I worked in a hospital emerg room - I saw one kick back incident- guy was missing most of his lower jaw some of his upper mouth (missing most of his teeth too) and you could literally lift his cheek and see nothing but bone underneath like it was a flap. He got life flighted to the nearest major trauma center from our hospital. Nasty shit.
@@jestofreestone1 i don’t know what’s worst, the kickback or seeing that type of injury...kudos to you for your line of work
there´s a video where a guy is cutting the top of a wooden ceiling, kickback happens and it stops like 2 inches in front of his nose
@@John_Gillmandude is a dumb a. He was using a chainsaw on a ladder, strike 1. Tried cutting with the tip of the bar above his head, strike 2. The only thing that saved him is the chain brake.
What a fantastic narrator - riveting performance - John Wayne does Kickback. Hope the man is still kicking as that was filmed 25 years ago, but the content is still very pertinent.
Cutting with full rev is so important, i see so many people for no reason tapping the throttle button for no reason when cutting, i know you can use it when making a cut, but if you are bucking some wood, just keep it under full rev from start to the end of the cut.
You can hit something with the tip of the bar with full rev, and it digs in, but as soon as you release it, it kicks back.
Also the keep left arm straight truly saved me so many times when it happens.
Also, smaller saws/bars are more prone to kickback, and is much more violently in my experiense.
I expected this to be some B.S. overblown safety video but it was actually very informative and well done. I knew about kickback, but never really considered what could be done to prevent it.
very informative and proper serious presenter
This video is great, informative, practical, and not fear mongering. I just bought my first chainsaw and other videos made me scared to even use it. Now I think I can give it a try. Thanks Workplace North.
This is an excellent video and the most informative I have seen on kickback. Been running saws all my life and (thankfully) never experienced a critical kickback, in fact, to the point that I wondered if it is really real. Now I see how easy it can happen, and how that ease grows with fatigue and complacency. Thank you "Workplace Safety North" for posting a First Class safety video!
Glad that I found this excellent video before heading out to cut wood...so much info presented so well in just 10 min. Thanks for sharing a lifelong learning in this little video.
My grandpa worked as a faller, and bucker for almost 30 years. He had a couple kickback accidents, luckily they weren’t severe, and he witnessed a few accidents from his coworkers.
The woods is a dangerous place to work in. Even working around the house with a chainsaw is dangerous. I remember the first time I used one, my grandpa specifically told me this. “You better make sure that saw does not touch anything at the tip, because if that saw kicks back, you’re done. Those sons of bitches have no mercy!”
So I would like to say thank you to my grandpa, and the people who made this video! Hopefully others will watch this and take it seriously!
Very, very good explanation and guidance. Thank you.
It's 2am an i don't even own a chain saw but really into this for some reason.
lol 3:13am here
same lmao
Do you like to dress in women's clothing and hang around in bars ?
8:56 - "That's also why you have to start EVERY CUT under FULL POWER and keep it up until you are finished". This is the first time I've heard any chainsaw instruction or safety video explicitly say this! I've been wondering about this for years! See, I thought by not putting the saw at full speed you will be safer if anything happens (kickback, what-have-you) -- driving a car faster usually results in more damaging accidents that ones at a slower speed. But, every time I've tried to "vary" the chainsaw speed while cutting it has kicked back!
Best instructive video I have EVER seen...
Thank you.
I did like the clarity of your instruction. Thank you!
Really helpful. We're going to use this in a college lecture. Thank you so much.
great video..only differences from what i was taught in the uk in always have the saw up against ur knee ur whole body weight resists the kick back as much as possible, and if it does happen the saw passes by ur side not over ur head, and also remember to use the pushing or pulling side of the bar in the right circumstances and avoid the potential of a kick back as much as possible by making sure the saw runs away from you if anything
Thank you for teaching a little bit more in terms of Chainsaws. I will lock the front arm and bend the back in the correct position now.
That is an awesome video. Should accompany every chainsaw sold.
Great video, great instructor
Complacently just kicked my you know what. I had been cutting all week. End of the week, 2 hour job finish, and while I hastily wanted to get home I left my chaps in the truck. 20' from me, second limb saw bucked hit my left knee, 27 staples, cut half way through my upper thigh tendon. 4 weeks of crunches. Always wear PPE{personal protective equipment}.
Ouch.
What do you mean the second limb "saw bucked"?
thank you best safety video regarding chainsaw kickback and how to bother understand and prevent it plus how to protect yourself too. i recommend everyone who just bought a chainsaw to watch this video first. and i will be making sure anyone who uses my chainsaw has either watched this video or are already experts in using a chainsaw properly and safely.
I’m glad I haven’t seen any chainsaw man fans yet
Thanks for posting this- exactly what I was looking for.
Frightened the hell out of me. I'll be more aware of the proper handling and safety when using my saws. WOW. Super impressed. Thank you Barry.
Thank you. Excellent safety video.
This video helped me learn how to be safer with a chainsaw. Now I can show others how to be safe as well. Thank you!
Excellent video, he's great and you can't stop watching until it's over he's such a good presenter.
Brilliant advice! My son died instantly, in Feb2016, 20ft up a tree when the top-handled saw he was using kicked back. With handles so close together on the saw he could not have used the 'locked elbow' technique. I reckon it hit him in 1/3 of the time it took the chain brake to work. The cut went through his neck to his spine. Top-handled saws are so lively they should ALWAYS be fitted with bar-tip guards to eliminate kickback for climbers.
So sorry for your lose
I didn't realize that Ted Kennedy knew so much about chainsaws.
lol
gwmgbwi
Looks like a pup wood logger 🤨
Shame he didn't know that much about cars...
... or being a lifeguard.
thanks for spending the time to do this. it might be old, but it's really good. thanks again.
Great video, really well presented and informative. Thanks
Great video! There is a video on RUclips of an injury to a man't forearm from a chainsaw. Do you not need to wear any arm protection? I had no idea about the technical aspects of sharpening and using a depth gauge. I'm way way safer now than before - thank you. Subscribed.
Very useful, thank you. Now when I ask my friend to show me how to use a chainsaw I'll have at least some safety knowledge in mind.
This guy is a beauty, great lesson
Good, clear....and fluent explanation. It's great to hear someone articulate who doesn't stumble with 'um' and 'er' or pad the time out with needless repetition or rambling. And not a single use of 'like'....which nowadays is obligatory several times in every Millenial's every sentence. Bravo!
Good video. To the point and well presented.
My situation at present is that I have just purchased a baby chainsaw (I know - still dangerous) and before I even use it, I will get myself some chainsaw boots, chaps etc. as I already have goggles and ear protection with no need for a hard hat because I am not felling trees or de-limbing or that sorta thing. What I am attempting to do is to reduce the height of my hedges for which I normally use a hedge trimmer but I don't want to damage it by trying to cut through some branches that have become as thick as 3" !!! So ... where do I stand with the following scenario - cutting mostly across as opposed to up or down AND having to stand on a ladder or platform. I won't lie and say that I am not at least a little nervous so any advice or other youtube links along these lines would be gratefully appreciated...
Great detail,very valuable info, superbly done.... Thanks
Excellent video. Your use of safety equipment is spot on.
Great tutorial Barry. You were known for being a kind and smart guy. Also very popular with the ladies. My Grandmother loved watching you.
yes well done, great instructions, thank you
The amount of people cutting with one hand with big powerfull saws on youtube is crazy,
Respect deserving guy. 100%, AMEN, shout it from the mountain tops. Your PPE IS the last line of defense. Your attitude is your first. Your brain is your second. Everything else is situational and somewhere in between attitude and PPE.
really good video, very instructive, complete, and well intrepreted, you should be an actor !
thanks a lot. very informative. say if I were cutting a large diameter tree stump, horizontally, what can I do to avoid kickback and getting the tip stuck on this one ? maybe use a larger saw ?? cheers
He reminds me of someone I know here in England He looks like the sort of man you wouldn't mess with ... A real hard man ...
I usually try to use the rear of the saw as much for cutting to prevent kick back. Was told by old timer. Never use tip for cutting been cutting since I was about 7 to 8 yrs old I'm 35 now.
Isn’t that why the teeth are at base f bar, to “bite” the log so you can pivot saw
Thank you sir very informative and to the point,thanks for your care
Very informative video. Very theatrical host.
Kickback is horrific. Gives me the fear.
How about drinking alcohol whilst cutting, never mentioned so I take that as an ok, thanks for that mate.
I assume he just made a joke ;)
you can't tell that the comment about it being ok to drink alcohol while using a chainsaw was a joke??????
Lol don't even tocuh it if u drank alcohol :P
No it's not using a chainsaw while drunk you are asking for a death wish
Because if it kicks back while you are drunk
Great video. This guy knows how to teach
Thank you excellant overview very helpful
Great video. Thanks for posting
He seems like he would be a great father in-law
Great video/lesson. Thank you.
Remember that correct standing position is very important.
But you’re NOT out of the woods yet!
Thank you!
Great video thanks for the tips
Isn't it necessary to use the tip of the saw in making "plunge" or "bore" cuts? How do you do this safely?
Easy. Avoid starting cut with "danger quadrant", the upper part of the tip. Start the cut with the lower half of the tip, and gradually transition to using the full tip. Of course, at all times keep all body parts "out of the plane of the chain" and not behind saw. You can't get hit there. Bet you knew that, and were just trolling.
I bet this man has saved a lot of limbs and lives. Possibly mines as well. Great video.
Tks soo much for this vid.. any advise on where Yo buy all protection gear?
Tools & More DIY go to your local saw shop, or buy online. I’m sure if a saw shop doesn’t carry one thing, they can definitely get it for you!
Good stuff from Canada
What about the safety bar tip. This prevents the kickback area from touching anything. I just installed one on my echo cs-400. I don't see the pros using this. Maybe it's for weekend chainsaw users like me.
I have a feeling that the modern Chainsaws of today have what's known as an Inertia Chainbrake. What that means is that if the tip of the guide bar strikes a solid object, the Chainbrake automatically activates, without the operater having to react.
I'm not sure if the process only works if the chainsaw is being used vertically, or if it works when being used both horizontally and vertically
The chainbreak is activated when the saw slams back into the operator's hand on the handle bar. If somebody is not using two hands the chainbreak will not function. And regardless, a high powered saw can still fly out of the operators hand and is still dangerous after the chain stops, as it only stops after the saw is already coming backward with momentum. The example in the video that saw has a chain break but flew out of the users hand.
Good information, thanks
Although this is a good video and does indeed teach the proper safety precautions to avoid kickback, his explanation of why kickback happens is somewhat flawed.
You see, a sudden stop of the chain will not have nearly as much effect as the real reason for kickback. Try revving up your saw to full speed and slamming on your chain brake. The saw should kick a little, yes, but nothing too uncontrollable. What really happens in the event of kickback is the chain not cutting, but lodging itself in the wood, and by the power of both the inertia of the chain and the continued force from the motor, the chain “climbs”, so to speak, up whatever you're cutting and launches itself upwards. The only place on the bar where the chain is running vertically is, of course, the nose, and thus, this is where kickback happens.
Again, I fully support this video as a pedagogical and preventive tool, but if you want to learn about the real forces at play and further understand the tool with which you are working, other videos or literature may be the answer.
Both effects come into play. Try putting the tip of a chainsaw in a vice and then rev it up. Use a string to rev it from a safe distance because I guarantee it will kickback.
thanks for the laoded content ,,very infromative
I have a 1964 mcculloch 790... no hand guard, brake, nothing. Just man and beast.
Where does worksafe even get this music
Awesome safety video!
very good, thanx
Don’t wear gold and black dress watch while clad in logging gear.
That’s my fashion advice of the day.
Great video!
Great advice!
thank you
Thank you. These machines really frighten me, but I need to use them.
Julia Gale If you work with chainsaw you’ll experience them once in awhile and yeah it’s frightening I’ve had it happen a few times but the brake saved my ass many times...no warning the saw just comes flying fast back at you even if you are holding it tight
Very good. Thank you!
Good advice.
Very informative, thank you. I should buy a depth gauge tool, I have only been eyeballing the size of the teeth
Hi great video and good tips on kickback
Excellent tutorial! No questions left unanswered.
Thank you very well done I learned a lot.
What a delightful man!
Thank you for this video.
what year was this filmed?
I think 94 ish
Good advice mate thank you
Thank you safety grandpa!
Excellent!
If you meet somebody resolutely overconfident on the subject of chainsaws, point them toward (by way of an example) the Journal of Traumatic Injury's submission by Han Joo Choi in 2019 (warning, it's very graphic, but the man did survive).
Also, whoever and wherever you are, do a first aid course with trauma treatment, and then buy yourself some hemostatic (celex or similar) gauze or powder. Several people I've worked with know people whose lives were saved by it. The Korean guy in the above article also owes his life to it.