The Sennheiser HD 600 came out in 1997 and is still the same price basically. Why would Apple lower the price of a headphone that is in that is considered a flagship in their audio department?
@@epzo The AirPod Maxs are overpriced 100% however they're a fantastic headphone. I've owned and used heavily the Bose QC-45, Sony XM4, and the Airpod Max. For my headshape and personal use, I like the maxs the most. But again they are 100% overpriced. Also you can't say Samsung better when they don't even have their own over-the-ear headphones. Stop blindly supporting one brand
@@epzoreading comments like these are just depressing af. The fact people like you lack any self awareness to realize how pathetic "my side is better than yours" is.
Does it matter? Airpods Max are still the best Bluetooth wireless over-ear ANC headphones on the market. Not the best headphone, not the best Bluetooth headphone, mind you.
@@KevinEnjoyer I'm not sure if that's true. I think I was seeing something about the Sonos ace being better and there's probably a few others that are up there
@@nathancasey7712 I've heard about the Sonos now. They're good, apparently. But I stand firm in my belief that the Airpods Max still reign supreme. Besides, an upgrade is due very soon.
The AirPods Max are due an incremental update (i.e. the newer Pro features that are missing) but they still do most things most people need, and the integration with the Apple ecosystem makes them unique among over-ear headphones. The noise cancellation is superb, the real-time equalisation works a treat, the spatial audio is far more convincing than with the other AirPods models, and the sound quality handily beats similarly priced Sony headphones and Beyerdynamics that I’ve owned. Yes you will enhance the baseline with lossless, but frankly this is lost on most people’s ears. There is a strange consensus among those who haven’t used them or don’t really know audio quality that the Max don’t sound very good and they are just some status symbol. Let’s be clear: they sound very good.
And I’ll say too, my wife is on the spectrum and so when she’s working or just in life repetitive noises or just general noise overwhelm can be crippling and these were a game changer for her. Comfortable, durable, stylish but still understated enough they aren’t out of place anywhere. I’m not an Apple fan boy but these things are worth every Penny
I mean they sound good, thats not the issue. They are just old and been eclipsed by other models in almost all deprtments now, yet still remain overpiced.
@@Victor_Mgt usually use it for work and longer travels, I normally comfortably come through the week when charging them fully at the beginning of the week. I would guess it is at least 15-20 hours of battery life, usually I use the transparency mode at work and no NC or NC turned on while traveling
People don’t really care about lightning or lossless audio. They care about the look, feel and sound quality and in that department these headphones are still as good as rivals.
I have the new AirPods Pro, as well as the original AirPods Max. And I will say I wear my AirPods Pro a lot more than the max. Simply because they’re more portable the transparency is just about the same and the sound quality is also basically the same. Apple truly has forgotten about these headphones and it’s kind of sad to see. Also, I don’t know if any other Max users have this problem but half the time my headphones don’t connect to my device or they will glitch and the audio will stop working and you’ll have to restart them. There is literally nothing AppleCare can do to help you with it either.
Ive been using the Airpods Max since a couple of years now and I totally recommend. Ive used various other over ear headphones and none of them come even close to the Apple ones in terms of sound quality, noise cancelling, built quality and connectivity. And by the way, losless audio is useless for Bluetooth devices anyway so it doesnt make a difference. I think that they are totally worth the price if you compare them to actually comparable headphones once...
lighting port is fine, ur charging ur headphones, the transparency mode and noise cancelling is still top notch even after 3 years. if you want them buy them. i don’t regret my purchase at all
Having owned the APM for almost three years now I can safely say the biggest problem isn't the lightning port or feature set, it's the lack of any manual override for power/pairing settings and Apple's abysmal customer support, I can't even take these things on a 30 min walk to the store without them dropping out at least once. There was a whole month where they just refused to connect to anything at all Focals sound great but the ANC is nothing special The consensus seems to be that Sony is neck and neck w Apple for ANC From my research seems B&W PX8 is the best all rounder
They need to make one with an included USB-C cable for use with lossless audio (since the updated EarPods aren't really that great for such a high bitrate), I would totally buy one if it existed.
What makes a headphone good is not how high the bitrate is but the EQ and the hardware of the headphone. The bitrate that AirPods Max has is more than enough. You probably couldn't tell the difference if you were blind-tested with anything higher if they went higher because human hearing can only hear so much. (also a lot of music isn't even in lossless)
Didn’t even pay 550$. Paid 250. They’re amazing. Yes I don’t like the lightning, yes the transparency is a tad bit outdated, but everting else is stellar. Hopefully when the new ones come out I’m more than impressed
Bro I bought a car from a dude at a bar for $500 once before. Last me 4 years a daily driver and then I sold it to someone else for $600. Headphones ain’t never gonna be no wheels either. That’s too much for headphones.
Stop making hot takes. Headphone development over the past couple years has been very minuscule and AirPods from a couple years ago can still be on par with some of the newest headphones. The AirPods Max are on the same level as the Sony 1000XM5 which is much newer.
@@jackhovatterexactly bro , they have the best craftsmanship iv have ever seen feel superior to anything else, they are solid aluminum and stainless steel
I switch between both headphones constantly, I love both sets. Both are great at noise cancelling, but Airpod Max is just better at Ambient mode.@@jackhovatter
The sound is freaking amazing, much better than the Sonys in my opinion. They have lossless audio but with a cord that costs 50$. My AirPods Max “disconnects/turns off” completely at random while in use, every time they do I have to reset them to factory settings. I’m not rich and the price made me rethink the purchase many times before pulling the trigger to actually buy them . I’ve now had them for a couple of years and even with all the cons mentioned above I couldn’t be happier, they are SO good and worth every penny. I’ve used them in many ways but today I use them mostly in front of my PC with the cord. (They still disconnects/shutting off randomly even with the cord) but I still love them.
My problem with I described above, “the disconnect” problem, I think I’ve solved it!! I had this problem for years, I finally learned that you can disassemble the headband from the cups with the help of a sim card removal tool, when I had done that I noticed some kind of oil/fluid looking stuff on the connector of the headband, “where the cups connects with the headband”, I wiped clean the connectors and reassembled it, now they have worked flawlessly for more then a week!!! I couldn’t find a fix anywhere on the internet or any reason why they behaved like they did, so if anyone has a similar problem try this above!’
Everyone talks about lossless audio, but I was always under the understanding that you can’t get lossless audio over a Bluetooth connection due to the limitations of the format?
Bluetooth codecs are currently UNLIKELY to provide lossless (CD quality) audio. However most headphones in this category come with an option to also use them wired to eliminate that "issue" for when you want that on the same device, often for less money too.
I sorta agree and disagree at the same time. Years ago I bought a TV from a non-Korean manufacturer that tech reviewers were starting to diss. In practicality it was already comfortably beyond good enough that made the tech reviewers seem a little out of touch. Two year old model was on 50% sale and still going strong after owning it for ten years.
“Features” coming to normal on-ear air pods don’t make the max obsolete. I have both. They’re DRASTICALLY different sound quality. But I’ll wear the max on a plane. But pros on a run. And I don’t give two craps about the charging port.
And the reason I returned my airpods max is that you can't turn them off and the sleep mode it has is not the same. I ended up going with mark levinson no. 5909 it has LDAC and aptx adaptive and while not lossless it's at least hi-res.
Sweet mother of god I was going to consider on buying the headphones you mentioned and return my maxes then I realized it’s twice the price. I’m sure they’re amazing headphones but nah imma keep my APMs. Plus I fix tech, and battery replacements on the Maxes are really easy and I plan on keeping these for like the next 5-6 years ish
£500 in the Uk still, I’ve just brought some,as long as you tweak the settings, they seem fine.previously using Bose comfort cheap at around £100 I’ve used for years almost impossible to break reasonable sound quality but no noise cancelling. So it just depends on what you’re willing to spend. I also have AirPods Pro. But I find in ear uncomfortable & easy to fall out when eating or walking.
@@Electrifize It does indeed after a 3 years usage I am still impressed by the sound each time I take them on - going back and forward from my gaming headset -steelseries nova pro
You could get headphones with more features, better sound and build quality cheaper when airpods were released. Only suckers that got sucked into the marketing purchased these. Every Apple product is like that, notably more expensive than it's competitors yet bringing less to the table. The only thing Apple does well is the Apple watch, Apple watch is a superb piece of hardware and software. iPhone aint too bad either but it's also lacking in innovation and slightly too expensive for what it brings (cameras are great on the pro models though).
@@filmboy18 yeah you could get wired that last longer and cheaper and better sound but less convenient and Apple standardized the removal of the aux port on portable devices so it’s even more less convenient. But I think headphones shouldn’t always be jam pack with all the features like noise canceling is good but all the others seem useless to drive up the price and just a thing they say so you can buy the new headphone. Like you said a lot of the highly marketed ones are bad like Raycons and others. And headphones who don’t focus on marketing have a bigger budget to make the headphones good like Grados who marketing is just people suggesting it to others
I did NOT return mine. All I want on the new ones are yes the charging port which is going to happen regardless but also an option to get cooling gel options for the removable ear muffs
comparing 3 year old products with todays products, of course it’s going to be outdated. for a tech reviewer you are scraping the barrel for content here!
@@scarfaceENT Wrong. 1. They don’t sound outdated. Drivers still compete with enthusiast grade headphones and still support new features / get updates 2. The only reason they’re outdated whatsoever is because Apple just finally ditched lightning. Had these release five years earlier, they would still be going strong for 8 years Crazy how you’re so insistent on hating a product for the sole reason of “it’s too expensive” like that alone makes the product bad.
listen, I've had them for 2 years now, and just got them apple cared for a refurbished set, hopefully to last me another 2 years-3 years. easily the best headphones if you have an all apple ecosystem, effortlessly pairing between my macbook pro and iphone, and seamlessy switching without messing with my bluetooth settings. airpods pro 2 do have INSANE noise cancellation but as for over ear headphones and the quality you get from them, ill take the maxes any day. final point ,the Lightning to USB-C cable is the ONLY way to reliably connect your Airpods to an Xbox or Playstation controller to use them for audio while playing.
As someone who loves and appreciates audio and sound quality. It hurts reading these comments talking about theirs many cheaper options. Theirs a reason those are cheaper.
They sound great but yeah, the build quality on the cheaper ones sorta suck. The only issue I have with the APMs is the clamp force, other than that tho they’re great headphones
The one thing that made me return mine was the inability of the Max to switch from my computer and phone seamlessly. Both my computer and phone are from Apple, so my Bose and Sony headphones shouldn’t switch more seamlessly between the two than the Max does, but they do.
@@Ravensbite I could switch back and forth, but I had to do it manually. If I let them switch automatically, my headphones would just attach to my phone as soon as it was turned on, even if I was still watching something on my computer. With other headphones, I would have to stop my phone or computer to play from the other. Maybe mine were a fluke.
The previous prediction for a new model was December last year if Max followed the same release schedule as the Pros… but being past that makes it seem that it’s a “maybe it will happen soon, maybe they will wait for when the Pro 3 is out or maybe they are silently phasing it out” I feel like the most likely at this point is to wait until the Pro 3’s come out at least, given that the Max still hold out on its own against the Pro 2’s (though not by nearly as much as the Pro 1). A big thing for this too is the battery health aspect, spacing out every 3 year works out with AirPods/AirPods Pro since they have such small batteries that wear out faster. AirPods Max is nowhere near as much.
I find it funny that I am watching this video with a pair of AirPods Max on my head. I bought them because I am a big Apple fan and even though they are expensive, I really like them for a lot of reasons. They have become my editing headphones and my around the house headphones. I use AirPods Pro’s outside of the house though. The AirPods Max stay inside the house.
i swear its the price that makes people hate on them and say they are “trash” but really even after n3 years they are amazing and go on par with the sony xm5 😭
I love my AirPods Max, so what if they use a lightening cable still, it’s a charger isn’t it? Does exactly the same as a USB-C cable or let me guess a USB-C charges them up 5 minutes faster…..transparency and noise cancellation is still amazing after 3 years, do not regret buying them
I have both the Max’s and the Pro 2’s. The adaptive transparency mode is a gimmick, if somebody came up to me and started talking to me I wouldn’t hear them. I would have to ask them to repeat themselves anyways, or I could just reach up and push the stem and do the same thing. The lightning port is fine by me since my house has 20 lightning cables anyways. I will say I don’t like how the Max’s are treble heavy and kinda lifeless. The pro 2’s have a more well rounded bottom end and I actually want to sing when I’m listening to them.
@@iktn132Nah he’s not entirely wrong, Apple has a lot of influence in its sales simply due to brand recognition as opposed to actual specs and product quality. I ,for one, do buy my Apple products due to quality but the average person who owns something like an iPhone wouldn’t know what something like OLED or display refresh rate meant. Hell they probably don’t even understand what the difference between USB-C and Lightning is. So when it comes to literal children who own something like AirPods Max and use them in school, it’s definitely about showing off since there are a wide variety of better over ear headphones.
my airpod pro always have trouble connecting and switching between devices. Airpod max does that without any problem. Bought for $300 and I think it's still a better deal.
I have the AirPods Max and the Sony 1000 M5 and the Sony are way worse. Connecting to my iPhone, iPad or MacBook are a pain. The pass through mode sucks, the passive sound dampening sucks, but they are not as heavy which is a good thing
@@happycamel39agree but I don’t have it with mine bang & olfusen h9 connect automatically to Mac and iPhone when turned on. Even new devices that I never paired before know it
“I have only apple products and only their headphones don’t suck! 🤓” No shit. Do you not realise what you’re saying? Their products are made to be a pain to use with other brands, software issues, connectivity issues etc. You really have been sucked in.
@@mawangshallhang I have the Sony for work in the office and let me tell you they are not a pleasure to use with windows either. Previously I had Bose ones and they were much better sounding and connecting
Bought the Airpods Max 2 years ago and this is still the best investment i've ever made. I have a 14 pro and Airpods 3 so I dont give a shit about usb C. I use them every single day and I dont miss any features from any other products. If you want to get something dont let influencers say anything is bad just because they want you to click on the video :)
They go on sale quite a bit, the lightning port charges pretty damn fast, and ive never even thought of the missing features. For sure pricey still, but if you can get for a good price they are pretty nice. Plus of all the headsets ive used these are the only ones that swap between my steam deck , switch, phone and laptop without a bunch of bullshit.
It will come with the AirPod max 2s set to release sometime next quarter 2024 2025 and when they do, Ill be getting them because it’ll be a nice addition to my iPad Pro m4
from someone who has both, Apple allows, borderline seamless usage on the phone however, if you have RUclips red and you were listening to a video in the background and you take your headphones off, RUclips will close itself. At least that’s what I’ve noticed on the iPhone13. Sony, however, may not be seamless, but allowing an app to customize your experience, has made a world of a difference in my opinion between the two I also really appreciate how you can turn off the Sony headphones and you cannot turn off the Apple headphones. The AirPod maxes require you to put the case on in order to turn them off, I’m bad at putting headphones and back into the case so if I leave my headphones out, the battery slowly drains when I’m using them and I really hate that with Sony. I’ll go without charging because I can turn them off when I’m not using them. There is no proofreading in this speech to text review. Cheers.
Naw, I’m a AirPod pro owner of latest model and the sound quality in the air pod max lossless or not, is light years better than the air pod pros. If anyone is telling you not to buy these in 2024, it should only be with the expectation that a new model may release. Most reviews I watched on the Mac didn’t compare with experiencing the quality yourself. I’ve had them for a few months now: I lift weights and join meetings with them, and can’t be convinced that it wasn’t worth every dollar. He’s just naming off features that won’t make a difference to the everyday consumer. If anything, my Bluetooth issues are always in my pros such as one connecting and having to reseat them in the case to connect. AirPod max has yet to not connect when I take them out of the case.
But it kinda becomes an accessory beacuse it looks so much better than the other headsets out there. Lookswise i only think marshall are on the same level. You can kind of use it as a part of your outfit
the thing is with apple products, they always have the reasons for you to buy it, don't care even if it is outdated amongst the competitors. People still buy it. They really good at making sometimes best products, but sometimes decent products
My AirPods max just lasted for a year. Apple has the worst customer service. When i brought it to them to get fixed, they plainly said to me “to buy a new one” coz fixing it will cost more than the SRP
I'll never get over the ear headphones again. Own AirPod Max, Beats, and Bose. All 3 suck compared to my AirPods Pro 2nd Generation. AirPod Max are heavy and reminded me to not get the Vision Pro when those dropped.
As someone who had Airpods Max and sold them - they are amazing, but it's not worth getting them nowadays since AirPods Pro 2 are way cheaper, newer, have better noise cancelling, USB-C and the sound is comparable (Pro 2 have more bass and Max is more neutral but the sound quality is overall about the same to my ears)
Sound is subjective and I like the way they sound but the main reason I got them is because they are hands down the best with transparency mode and noise cancellation. Every other pair I have ever tried had awful transparency where I sounding like I was talking to myself on a second delay or the noise cancellation would actually make you feel sick if you had a quiet song or the music outright stopped. If Apple put a type C port on them they would be better in every way compared to the examples shown here. The only downside compared to the other examples is the lightning port.
Plus when it dies it’s not repairable. Mine died and I’m being charged more than the price it’s being sold one and a half years ago. That’s just unacceptable. Now they are just paperweights.
The biggest problem is probably, that they are their own kind of product in a way. They are so expensive, that you just can't compare them to to the Sony or Bose pairs as normal Bluetooth headphones, because these can already be bought at 1/3 the price of them pretty regularly. If you look for a good or even semi professional sounding headphone for work, you would just not get Bluetooth headphones anyway, even with all the new codecs. They are in a weird middle ground with a price so high, that you would be better off buying a pair of Sonys for Bluetooth and Beyerdynamics for your work for less in total. And the worst thing of all is, that they are even "bad" Bluetooth headphones, because you can't turn them off. They are a battery powered device, that constantly wears out the battery, which literally kills them faster than any of the cheaper options and makes them a nonsensical battery device. I really can't stress enough how much this doesn't make sense for a device, that you don't use 24/7 like your phone. It's kinda sad, but they really are just a novelty item which doesn't exceed in any of it's categories for a much too high price.
Not only that but focal and Sony both have their fingers in the profesional audio pie to. With focal making great monitors and Sony with the mdr 7506. Not that AirPods sound bad. There’s just people doing it far better for far cheaper
Definitely not, mine do everything I need them to, and they sound damn fantastic at that. Lightning sucks but it’s not that big of a deal! They work so well it makes up for the lack of features
Im just gonna go ahead and say it but the xm5 are not much of a improvement. They fit loosely so background sound drifts in and the max well it’s a snugged fit. So big let down that a newer headphone does worse at sound canceling then a 3 year old headphones. Plus you need a app to get the best from the xm5 so it’s not plugged and play. Max Easy to connect mx5 if you’re a iPhone user well you have signed up to the app. The only benefit they have over the max is the headphone jack that helps a lot when using handhelds like the legion go and quest 3 that have horrible Bluetooth connection. iPhone user and primarily just apple products max. Needed for more like handhelds and quest 3 xm5.
I’ll just continue to stick with my wireless Dre Beats solos that I’ve had for years now with NO problems and still work just like they worked when I first brought them.. 💯
If my Bluetooth headphones doesn’t say “The Bluetooth is ready to pair” in a weird accent, I don’t want it.
“Thenk you for all of ze likes”
Here before this blows up
*"The Bluetoof dewhice is really chew pear"*
“Da blutu devise is ready to pair”
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As soon as i buy some this mf drops this
🤣🤣
Return them, they’re a massive waste of fucking money
return them
Me too
@FadeHook23 they told me I couldn't. Since I put them on once, they are a non returnable item unless warranty or apple care is needed.
Never would’ve paid $500 for some headphones
Agreed. Event 300€ for my Sony WF-1000XM5 felt really bad and was kinda expensive.
Imagine what kind of a brain dead moron of a human being would actually buy these lmao.what a waste of oxygen that person would be.
You can get better for like half the price
@@cfl4sh361 exactly
@@a_creative_username930are the wf the in ear or over ear headphone. I want to buy the sony xm5 the over ear
A 3 year old product thats had no price reduction is kind of ridiculous
The Sennheiser HD 600 came out in 1997 and is still the same price basically.
Why would Apple lower the price of a headphone that is in that is considered a flagship in their audio department?
When has Apple ever had a price reduction on anything?
@@lucasblanc11 thats not the point
@@AP90xbut it’s something to consider. The last time I remember apple dropping the price of something was the original iPhone
U can buy them lowest 300 ( I’m making shit up idk
Me listening to this with my airpods max: 💀💀💀
Wasted cash
I’ve had mine for 2 years now and I still love em , super sold headphones 🎧
@@1SlipperyPenguin Watsted cash crapple samsung better cope and SIit
@@epzo The AirPod Maxs are overpriced 100% however they're a fantastic headphone.
I've owned and used heavily the Bose QC-45, Sony XM4, and the Airpod Max. For my headshape and personal use, I like the maxs the most. But again they are 100% overpriced.
Also you can't say Samsung better when they don't even have their own over-the-ear headphones. Stop blindly supporting one brand
@@epzoreading comments like these are just depressing af. The fact people like you lack any self awareness to realize how pathetic "my side is better than yours" is.
3 years ago already? Jesus
Goddamn time flies
I got so much use out of these bad boys god damn
Does it matter? Airpods Max are still the best Bluetooth wireless over-ear ANC headphones on the market. Not the best headphone, not the best Bluetooth headphone, mind you.
@@KevinEnjoyer I'm not sure if that's true. I think I was seeing something about the Sonos ace being better and there's probably a few others that are up there
@@nathancasey7712 I've heard about the Sonos now. They're good, apparently. But I stand firm in my belief that the Airpods Max still reign supreme. Besides, an upgrade is due very soon.
The AirPods Max are due an incremental update (i.e. the newer Pro features that are missing) but they still do most things most people need, and the integration with the Apple ecosystem makes them unique among over-ear headphones.
The noise cancellation is superb, the real-time equalisation works a treat, the spatial audio is far more convincing than with the other AirPods models, and the sound quality handily beats similarly priced Sony headphones and Beyerdynamics that I’ve owned. Yes you will enhance the baseline with lossless, but frankly this is lost on most people’s ears.
There is a strange consensus among those who haven’t used them or don’t really know audio quality that the Max don’t sound very good and they are just some status symbol.
Let’s be clear: they sound very good.
Agreed with every point u mentioned
And I’ll say too, my wife is on the spectrum and so when she’s working or just in life repetitive noises or just general noise overwhelm can be crippling and these were a game changer for her. Comfortable, durable, stylish but still understated enough they aren’t out of place anywhere. I’m not an Apple fan boy but these things are worth every Penny
I mean they sound good, thats not the issue. They are just old and been eclipsed by other models in almost all deprtments now, yet still remain overpiced.
@@jackhovattersame, these are the best headphones for the tism I’ve gotten.
It ain't worth 5 big ones.
Bought mine almost 2 years ago. Still work great only a couple scratches on the outside. I haven’t touched any of my other pairs of headphones since
I still want a pair just cuz fuck it. But I ain’t paying $500
Yeah, I don't think $500 is reasonable. I paid a bit over $550 for two pairs of APMs
@@felixvasquez6151 Where'd you get em? I'd be pretty confident betting that they're fake
@@felixvasquez6151 so you bought fake ones?
Get a used one.. what i did for about £200
@@collins4948where you get them used from?
Have them since 2 years now and still love them, but I agree they are due for an update
Me for a year and a half and they are really good
@bend0ver3 @juthronee How's the battery life now?
u can go like 3 days without charging them maybe longer @@Victor_Mgt
@@Victor_Mgtima guess and probably say a good 18-24hr battery life, a couple more hours ahead then the airpods pro
@@Victor_Mgt usually use it for work and longer travels, I normally comfortably come through the week when charging them fully at the beginning of the week. I would guess it is at least 15-20 hours of battery life, usually I use the transparency mode at work and no NC or NC turned on while traveling
People don’t really care about lightning or lossless audio. They care about the look, feel and sound quality and in that department these headphones are still as good as rivals.
It doesn't have any rivals, because Sennheiser, Sony, Bose, Soundcore and many others are just leagues above it, Apple isn't even in the conversation.
I love my airpods max
I have the new AirPods Pro, as well as the original AirPods Max. And I will say I wear my AirPods Pro a lot more than the max. Simply because they’re more portable the transparency is just about the same and the sound quality is also basically the same. Apple truly has forgotten about these headphones and it’s kind of sad to see. Also, I don’t know if any other Max users have this problem but half the time my headphones don’t connect to my device or they will glitch and the audio will stop working and you’ll have to restart them. There is literally nothing AppleCare can do to help you with it either.
3 years ago?!? feels like theyre still new
Ive been using the Airpods Max since a couple of years now and I totally recommend. Ive used various other over ear headphones and none of them come even close to the Apple ones in terms of sound quality, noise cancelling, built quality and connectivity. And by the way, losless audio is useless for Bluetooth devices anyway so it doesnt make a difference. I think that they are totally worth the price if you compare them to actually comparable headphones once...
lighting port is fine, ur charging ur headphones, the transparency mode and noise cancelling is still top notch even after 3 years. if you want them buy them. i don’t regret my purchase at all
"lightning port is fine" 💀💀💀💀💀💀
@@EliTheElite1876 It is fine if you own an iPhone 14 or older. Few people actually own the iPhone 15
@@felixvasquez6151 Common samsung W
People just like to complain
@@EliTheElite1876 For headphones it's more than enough.
No way, something new is better than an older product...
Bruh even older headphones are better than the trash apple makes their so outdated on technology
@@eduardopedro02w take
New yet alot cheaper 😂 n sony during that time probably was alot better of an option meanwhile still have better features
It’s the fact that price remains similar to when it was first released since it’s older the price should’ve drop significantly
@@eduardopedro02 head tracking and transparency mode?
You can sometimes find a used pair for under 250$ and that might be worth it
i would rather buy XM5 with 250$
Just bought mine on Facebook marketplace unused and sealed in box for $150! They sound/look/feel incredible. I love em.
Nah ill stick with my chinese knock off ear buds from amazon.
I have five below airpod mac knockoffs
Y’all wastin ur money on those shit I just attach some string to a can and put it to my ear👹👹
@@BestfashionpersonLMAOOO
TOZO ftw
@@limpbiskit66 Thats what I use lmao
Having owned the APM for almost three years now I can safely say the biggest problem isn't the lightning port or feature set, it's the lack of any manual override for power/pairing settings and Apple's abysmal customer support, I can't even take these things on a 30 min walk to the store without them dropping out at least once. There was a whole month where they just refused to connect to anything at all
Focals sound great but the ANC is nothing special
The consensus seems to be that Sony is neck and neck w Apple for ANC
From my research seems B&W PX8 is the best all rounder
“Naolly r theyusing thelightning port” is what it sounded like he said 💀
While old, their unique set of features and ease of use, still makes them the best choice of headphones for a specific crowd of Apple users.
An Airpods Max 2 can fix so many issues this first model has
They need to make one with an included USB-C cable for use with lossless audio (since the updated EarPods aren't really that great for such a high bitrate), I would totally buy one if it existed.
What makes a headphone good is not how high the bitrate is but the EQ and the hardware of the headphone. The bitrate that AirPods Max has is more than enough. You probably couldn't tell the difference if you were blind-tested with anything higher if they went higher because human hearing can only hear so much. (also a lot of music isn't even in lossless)
Didn’t even pay 550$. Paid 250. They’re amazing. Yes I don’t like the lightning, yes the transparency is a tad bit outdated, but everting else is stellar. Hopefully when the new ones come out I’m more than impressed
Still can hold its weight to compete with 2023 headphones
For that price nope never
Not even close
Bro I bought a car from a dude at a bar for $500 once before. Last me 4 years a daily driver and then I sold it to someone else for $600. Headphones ain’t never gonna be no wheels either. That’s too much for headphones.
Stop making hot takes. Headphone development over the past couple years has been very minuscule and AirPods from a couple years ago can still be on par with some of the newest headphones. The AirPods Max are on the same level as the Sony 1000XM5 which is much newer.
No 🧢 detected. They are still like a 9-9.5/10 experience even 3 years later
@@jackhovatterexactly bro , they have the best craftsmanship iv have ever seen feel superior to anything else, they are solid aluminum and stainless steel
I switch between both headphones constantly, I love both sets. Both are great at noise cancelling, but Airpod Max is just better at Ambient mode.@@jackhovatter
On the same level is just false in so many ways
The sound is freaking amazing, much better than the Sonys in my opinion. They have lossless audio but with a cord that costs 50$. My AirPods Max “disconnects/turns off” completely at random while in use, every time they do I have to reset them to factory settings. I’m not rich and the price made me rethink the purchase many times before pulling the trigger to actually buy them . I’ve now had them for a couple of years and even with all the cons mentioned above I couldn’t be happier, they are SO good and worth every penny. I’ve used them in many ways but today I use them mostly in front of my PC with the cord. (They still disconnects/shutting off randomly even with the cord) but I still love them.
My problem with I described above, “the disconnect” problem, I think I’ve solved it!!
I had this problem for years, I finally learned that you can disassemble the headband from the cups with the help of a sim card removal tool, when I had done that I noticed some kind of oil/fluid looking stuff on the connector of the headband, “where the cups connects with the headband”, I wiped clean the connectors and reassembled it, now they have worked flawlessly for more then a week!!!
I couldn’t find a fix anywhere on the internet or any reason why they behaved like they did, so if anyone has a similar problem try this above!’
Just get them used. Listening to this on my pair, you sound great!
Still the most comfortable. Worth the purchase for the cups and the headband alone.
Everyone talks about lossless audio, but I was always under the understanding that you can’t get lossless audio over a Bluetooth connection due to the limitations of the format?
he’s talking shit about it being bluetooth
only vision pro can provide lossless audio to airpods pro 2’s
Bluetooth codecs are currently UNLIKELY to provide lossless (CD quality) audio. However most headphones in this category come with an option to also use them wired to eliminate that "issue" for when you want that on the same device, often for less money too.
I sorta agree and disagree at the same time. Years ago I bought a TV from a non-Korean manufacturer that tech reviewers were starting to diss. In practicality it was already comfortably beyond good enough that made the tech reviewers seem a little out of touch. Two year old model was on 50% sale and still going strong after owning it for ten years.
I got mine in early 2021 with carbon fiber shell cases for them, some of the best built headphones ever
“Features” coming to normal on-ear air pods don’t make the max obsolete. I have both. They’re DRASTICALLY different sound quality.
But I’ll wear the max on a plane. But pros on a run.
And I don’t give two craps about the charging port.
And the reason I returned my airpods max is that you can't turn them off and the sleep mode it has is not the same. I ended up going with mark levinson no. 5909 it has LDAC and aptx adaptive and while not lossless it's at least hi-res.
Sweet mother of god I was going to consider on buying the headphones you mentioned and return my maxes then I realized it’s twice the price. I’m sure they’re amazing headphones but nah imma keep my APMs. Plus I fix tech, and battery replacements on the Maxes are really easy and I plan on keeping these for like the next 5-6 years ish
£500 in the Uk still, I’ve just brought some,as long as you tweak the settings, they seem fine.previously using Bose comfort cheap at around £100 I’ve used for years almost impossible to break reasonable sound quality but no noise cancelling. So it just depends on what you’re willing to spend. I also have AirPods Pro. But I find in ear uncomfortable & easy to fall out when eating or walking.
How could I live without transparency mode?
My $30 Jlabs I got on sale lasting over 2 years and going through hell still holding up 🔥
And im sitting using b&o h95 that is a REAL STATEMENT
Got em too🤝🏻🤝🏻🤝🏻
Does the sound quality justify the $1000?
@@Electrifize It does indeed after a 3 years usage I am still impressed by the sound each time I take them on - going back and forward from my gaming headset -steelseries nova pro
I just got knock off ones from 5 below and they still sound good
Seems alright idk why you need all those feature only adds to the cost
You could get headphones with more features, better sound and build quality cheaper when airpods were released. Only suckers that got sucked into the marketing purchased these.
Every Apple product is like that, notably more expensive than it's competitors yet bringing less to the table. The only thing Apple does well is the Apple watch, Apple watch is a superb piece of hardware and software. iPhone aint too bad either but it's also lacking in innovation and slightly too expensive for what it brings (cameras are great on the pro models though).
@@filmboy18 yeah you could get wired that last longer and cheaper and better sound but less convenient and Apple standardized the removal of the aux port on portable devices so it’s even more less convenient. But I think headphones shouldn’t always be jam pack with all the features like noise canceling is good but all the others seem useless to drive up the price and just a thing they say so you can buy the new headphone. Like you said a lot of the highly marketed ones are bad like Raycons and others. And headphones who don’t focus on marketing have a bigger budget to make the headphones good like Grados who marketing is just people suggesting it to others
I did NOT return mine. All I want on the new ones are yes the charging port which is going to happen regardless but also an option to get cooling gel options for the removable ear muffs
comparing 3 year old products with todays products, of course it’s going to be outdated. for a tech reviewer you are scraping the barrel for content here!
“DO NOT BUY THE XBOX 360 IN 2023”
The creazy thing that Even when they compare old apple vs new headphones apple always WIN!
A $500 pair of headphones that sound/feel outdated only 3 years later are dogshit, doesn’t matter how you look at it.
@@scarfaceENT
Wrong.
1. They don’t sound outdated. Drivers still compete with enthusiast grade headphones and still support new features / get updates
2. The only reason they’re outdated whatsoever is because Apple just finally ditched lightning. Had these release five years earlier, they would still be going strong for 8 years
Crazy how you’re so insistent on hating a product for the sole reason of “it’s too expensive” like that alone makes the product bad.
the issue is that they're still selling it lmao
listen, I've had them for 2 years now, and just got them apple cared for a refurbished set, hopefully to last me another 2 years-3 years. easily the best headphones if you have an all apple ecosystem, effortlessly pairing between my macbook pro and iphone, and seamlessy switching without messing with my bluetooth settings. airpods pro 2 do have INSANE noise cancellation but as for over ear headphones and the quality you get from them, ill take the maxes any day. final point ,the Lightning to USB-C cable is the ONLY way to reliably connect your Airpods to an Xbox or Playstation controller to use them for audio while playing.
As someone who loves and appreciates audio and sound quality. It hurts reading these comments talking about theirs many cheaper options. Theirs a reason those are cheaper.
They sound great but yeah, the build quality on the cheaper ones sorta suck. The only issue I have with the APMs is the clamp force, other than that tho they’re great headphones
The one thing that made me return mine was the inability of the Max to switch from my computer and phone seamlessly. Both my computer and phone are from Apple, so my Bose and Sony headphones shouldn’t switch more seamlessly between the two than the Max does, but they do.
I've had no issues switching from my Macbook to my phone with the Max headphones.
@@Ravensbite I could switch back and forth, but I had to do it manually. If I let them switch automatically, my headphones would just attach to my phone as soon as it was turned on, even if I was still watching something on my computer. With other headphones, I would have to stop my phone or computer to play from the other. Maybe mine were a fluke.
Lossless audio on airpods lmfao
They do have lossless audio when paired to the vision pro as it doesn't use bluetooth.
The previous prediction for a new model was December last year if Max followed the same release schedule as the Pros… but being past that makes it seem that it’s a “maybe it will happen soon, maybe they will wait for when the Pro 3 is out or maybe they are silently phasing it out”
I feel like the most likely at this point is to wait until the Pro 3’s come out at least, given that the Max still hold out on its own against the Pro 2’s (though not by nearly as much as the Pro 1). A big thing for this too is the battery health aspect, spacing out every 3 year works out with AirPods/AirPods Pro since they have such small batteries that wear out faster. AirPods Max is nowhere near as much.
I find it funny that I am watching this video with a pair of AirPods Max on my head. I bought them because I am a big Apple fan and even though they are expensive, I really like them for a lot of reasons. They have become my editing headphones and my around the house headphones. I use AirPods Pro’s outside of the house though. The AirPods Max stay inside the house.
i swear its the price that makes people hate on them and say they are “trash” but really even after n3 years they are amazing and go on par with the sony xm5 😭
AirPods Pro does not have lossless audio unless you buy a Vision Pro
The Mac Pro of headphones🤔 And now, the VR headset. Do you see a pattern yet
I love my AirPods Max, so what if they use a lightening cable still, it’s a charger isn’t it? Does exactly the same as a USB-C cable or let me guess a USB-C charges them up 5 minutes faster…..transparency and noise cancellation is still amazing after 3 years, do not regret buying them
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The Airpod Max had some of the highest RMA rate of any Apple product. I am sure if we see a Gen 2 its likely they wont look anything like Gen 1.
isn’t this the same guy that stuttered a million times when he was asked what the smelliest fandom is
I have both the Max’s and the Pro 2’s.
The adaptive transparency mode is a gimmick, if somebody came up to me and started talking to me I wouldn’t hear them. I would have to ask them to repeat themselves anyways, or I could just reach up and push the stem and do the same thing. The lightning port is fine by me since my house has 20 lightning cables anyways. I will say I don’t like how the Max’s are treble heavy and kinda lifeless. The pro 2’s have a more well rounded bottom end and I actually want to sing when I’m listening to them.
All those mf’s at school thinking there soo cool with their MAX headphones 💀💀
No they don’t, you’re just concocting bc you’re jealous you don’t have enough money to buy them
@@iktn132Nah he’s not entirely wrong, Apple has a lot of influence in its sales simply due to brand recognition as opposed to actual specs and product quality. I ,for one, do buy my Apple products due to quality but the average person who owns something like an iPhone wouldn’t know what something like OLED or display refresh rate meant. Hell they probably don’t even understand what the difference between USB-C and Lightning is. So when it comes to literal children who own something like AirPods Max and use them in school, it’s definitely about showing off since there are a wide variety of better over ear headphones.
or maybe cuz they are also genuinely really good headphones 🤓
And at the gym 😂
@@Jorda5sfr. I don't know why people wear them at the gym I mean they aren't waterproof
my airpod pro always have trouble connecting and switching between devices. Airpod max does that without any problem. Bought for $300 and I think it's still a better deal.
I have the AirPods Max and the Sony 1000 M5 and the Sony are way worse. Connecting to my iPhone, iPad or MacBook are a pain. The pass through mode sucks, the passive sound dampening sucks, but they are not as heavy which is a good thing
obviously, you are in the apple ecosystem, everything else is gonna suck if you are stuck in the apple ecosystem
@@happycamel39agree but I don’t have it with mine bang & olfusen h9 connect automatically to Mac and iPhone when turned on.
Even new devices that I never paired before know it
“I have only apple products and only their headphones don’t suck! 🤓” No shit. Do you not realise what you’re saying? Their products are made to be a pain to use with other brands, software issues, connectivity issues etc. You really have been sucked in.
@@mawangshallhang I have the Sony for work in the office and let me tell you they are not a pleasure to use with windows either. Previously I had Bose ones and they were much better sounding and connecting
Bought the Airpods Max 2 years ago and this is still the best investment i've ever made. I have a 14 pro and Airpods 3 so I dont give a shit about usb C. I use them every single day and I dont miss any features from any other products. If you want to get something dont let influencers say anything is bad just because they want you to click on the video :)
They go on sale quite a bit, the lightning port charges pretty damn fast, and ive never even thought of the missing features. For sure pricey still, but if you can get for a good price they are pretty nice. Plus of all the headsets ive used these are the only ones that swap between my steam deck , switch, phone and laptop without a bunch of bullshit.
It will come with the AirPod max 2s set to release sometime next quarter 2024 2025 and when they do, Ill be getting them because it’ll be a nice addition to my iPad Pro m4
from someone who has both, Apple allows, borderline seamless usage on the phone however, if you have RUclips red and you were listening to a video in the background and you take your headphones off, RUclips will close itself. At least that’s what I’ve noticed on the iPhone13. Sony, however, may not be seamless, but allowing an app to customize your experience, has made a world of a difference in my opinion between the two I also really appreciate how you can turn off the Sony headphones and you cannot turn off the Apple headphones. The AirPod maxes require you to put the case on in order to turn them off, I’m bad at putting headphones and back into the case so if I leave my headphones out, the battery slowly drains when I’m using them and I really hate that with Sony. I’ll go without charging because I can turn them off when I’m not using them.
There is no proofreading in this speech to text review. Cheers.
Only wired high quality headphones and a portable amp dac for me
Huge respect for mentioning the bathys. It’s prob the only noise cancelling headphone that sounds good on an audiophile level
Naw, I’m a AirPod pro owner of latest model and the sound quality in the air pod max lossless or not, is light years better than the air pod pros. If anyone is telling you not to buy these in 2024, it should only be with the expectation that a new model may release. Most reviews I watched on the Mac didn’t compare with experiencing the quality yourself. I’ve had them for a few months now: I lift weights and join meetings with them, and can’t be convinced that it wasn’t worth every dollar.
He’s just naming off features that won’t make a difference to the everyday consumer. If anything, my Bluetooth issues are always in my pros such as one connecting and having to reseat them in the case to connect. AirPod max has yet to not connect when I take them out of the case.
We need more RUclipsrs slating these headphones so they finally update them
Bruh everyone has lighting cables
AirPods Pro Gen 2 does not support lossless audio. No Apple headphones can because it can’t be transmitted through the current Bluetooth protocols.
They still better than those headsets you mentioned imo.
Dang! I just purchased mine from Amazon used Prime ($349). Love them so far, but it feels a bit heavy. Hoping I’ll get use to the weight ..,
“Do you think this is what people who listen to this podcast are stoked on?” Yes. I was looking forward to this lol
As soon as I buy a pair they’ll drop a new version. I’m gonna just wait
But it kinda becomes an accessory beacuse it looks so much better than the other headsets out there. Lookswise i only think marshall are on the same level. You can kind of use it as a part of your outfit
Rocking my XM5s, over 3.5k hours used so far in 11 months
I love AirPods Max noise cancelling feature it better than AirPods Pro
the thing is with apple products, they always have the reasons for you to buy it, don't care even if it is outdated amongst the competitors. People still buy it. They really good at making sometimes best products, but sometimes decent products
My AirPods max just lasted for a year. Apple has the worst customer service. When i brought it to them to get fixed, they plainly said to me “to buy a new one” coz fixing it will cost more than the SRP
I'll never get over the ear headphones again. Own AirPod Max, Beats, and Bose. All 3 suck compared to my AirPods Pro 2nd Generation. AirPod Max are heavy and reminded me to not get the Vision Pro when those dropped.
can get these used for around 230 on eBay now and in good shape (shows how many people did not like them). But still probably not worth it probably
As someone who had Airpods Max and sold them - they are amazing, but it's not worth getting them nowadays since AirPods Pro 2 are way cheaper, newer, have better noise cancelling, USB-C and the sound is comparable (Pro 2 have more bass and Max is more neutral but the sound quality is overall about the same to my ears)
noise cancellation mode on the Max's when I bought them was amazing...
Years later - Dookie. It's like they downgraded the features.
Sound is subjective and I like the way they sound but the main reason I got them is because they are hands down the best with transparency mode and noise cancellation. Every other pair I have ever tried had awful transparency where I sounding like I was talking to myself on a second delay or the noise cancellation would actually make you feel sick if you had a quiet song or the music outright stopped. If Apple put a type C port on them they would be better in every way compared to the examples shown here. The only downside compared to the other examples is the lightning port.
No Bluetooth device can use lossless audio u need a cable lossless cannot stream via Bluetooth
Got them as a gift yesterday, i was happy and sad at the same time.
How many versions are there just one? Next gen should be much better
The sound is amazing though. What kind of update could make the sound any better?
Have you used the Sony X-1000?
@@DillonWilksno, I haven’t. Are they better than the AirPods Max in your opinion?
Plus when it dies it’s not repairable. Mine died and I’m being charged more than the price it’s being sold one and a half years ago. That’s just unacceptable. Now they are just paperweights.
No wonder they were on sale on prime day at Walmart for 350$. I bought but I will return now.
The biggest problem is probably, that they are their own kind of product in a way. They are so expensive, that you just can't compare them to to the Sony or Bose pairs as normal Bluetooth headphones, because these can already be bought at 1/3 the price of them pretty regularly. If you look for a good or even semi professional sounding headphone for work, you would just not get Bluetooth headphones anyway, even with all the new codecs. They are in a weird middle ground with a price so high, that you would be better off buying a pair of Sonys for Bluetooth and Beyerdynamics for your work for less in total.
And the worst thing of all is, that they are even "bad" Bluetooth headphones, because you can't turn them off. They are a battery powered device, that constantly wears out the battery, which literally kills them faster than any of the cheaper options and makes them a nonsensical battery device. I really can't stress enough how much this doesn't make sense for a device, that you don't use 24/7 like your phone.
It's kinda sad, but they really are just a novelty item which doesn't exceed in any of it's categories for a much too high price.
Not only that but focal and Sony both have their fingers in the profesional audio pie to. With focal making great monitors and Sony with the mdr 7506. Not that AirPods sound bad. There’s just people doing it far better for far cheaper
Definitely not, mine do everything I need them to, and they sound damn fantastic at that. Lightning sucks but it’s not that big of a deal! They work so well it makes up for the lack of features
I hope they come out with new AirPods Max
If mine would break I immediately buy another pair. No hesitation. After all the models I’ve been using in the past 15yrs, this one sticks
What is al that fuzz about the lightning ports? I love lightning ports way better than usb-c.
But do any of those alternatives have lossless audio or adaptive mode?
The audio sounds damn near perfect on these headphones and they do support lossless audio that’s why the cost so much
Im just gonna go ahead and say it but the xm5 are not much of a improvement. They fit loosely so background sound drifts in and the max well it’s a snugged fit. So big let down that a newer headphone does worse at sound canceling then a 3 year old headphones. Plus you need a app to get the best from the xm5 so it’s not plugged and play.
Max Easy to connect mx5 if you’re a iPhone user well you have signed up to the app. The only benefit they have over the max is the headphone jack that helps a lot when using handhelds like the legion go and quest 3 that have horrible Bluetooth connection. iPhone user and primarily just apple products max. Needed for more like handhelds and quest 3 xm5.
I’ll just continue to stick with my wireless Dre Beats solos that I’ve had for years now with NO problems and still work just like they worked when I first brought them.. 💯
I've had em for 2 years, work like new.