Self Taught Musicians Suck?
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This video is in response to all the comments I received concerning my old "How to suck on guitar - the secret revealed". For the record, I am self-taught, and so are 99% of the players I know. In the end, whether you are a self-taught musician or not, what difference does it make? None!!
The truth is that we all need to have the discipline and curiosity self taught musicians naturally have to go further.
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Who existed first though. A guitarist or a guitar teacher.
Bass Lightyeah A luthier! Ha!
what came first music or theory?
Rock Lobster Probably music. I mean why would you think about something that doesn't exist?
Music came first obviously, how could their be a theory for something that doesn't exist..
but the theory was always there even if it wasn't learned. gravity existed before i understood it. its kinda the same as what came first the chicken or the egg. idk just rambling haha
If people were disciplined enough all you need is RUclips. seriously... it has EVERYTHING
Absolutely right
I am self taught, from books videos (when they where cassettes) internet etc, and I have a pretty good knowledge of harmony, modes, etc to the point I teach a pal stuff as he needs it. A teacher WILL get you there quicker if there any good, but we are all individual, with individual needs! Have fun is the only way forward in anything you do
I agree! I'm self taught too actually.
I'm a self-taught bass player, so I suck by default.
Lol it would be by default even if you werent self taught
well, it's hard to suck when you only have 4 strings
you suck by default the moment you picked the bass
not to sound butthurt but there are some really mind blowing bassists
i can play both but i prefer bass and am the bassist in my band
What's interesting is that some of the most influential musicians have been self taught. Then, it's their work that ends up being taught in music school. (Coming from a guy who has been taking drum lessons for 10 years)
I am offensive and this video is self taught
I get it.
I can play piano, drums, guitar and bass without ever having lessons... So I suck right?
Not at all, however you probably didn't really understand my point (which was poorly made I admit). My point is that being self-taught has NOTHING to do with being a good musician.
I did, I enjoyed the video and found you made a good point, I was just trolling :)
you're probably average at best, and you probably make all the common mistakes
if you want to get really good at an instrument you pretty much need lessons
wolffe93
So Brian May is average at best and makes all the common mistakes and needs lessons urgently, doesn't he?
or perhaps jeff beck?
i've never had money for a teacher, and now i can play a bit
Me too
Guitar instructor saying people who teach themselves suck. Nothing suss about this at all aha.
Looks like 3 self taught guitar players still didn't get it... Maybe I should do an apology video for this one? :D
well now they're 86 ..
Smug sarcasm is not an effective marketing tool
there is no return
you should just stop making music related videos... trust me
Rajdeep - trust an uncomprehending idiot? I wouldn't.
Create your own theory. Break the system
Jack Valentine jazz.
Jazz has so much theory behind it what?
Lol so easy
Ya like jazz
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Dimebag Darrel never took a lesson. And he was by far and wide, regarded as one the absolute greatest.
+Chris Toney Agreed!
I'm a self taught guitarist who understands music theory because I've done the work to learn it. I play mostly by ear BUT I CAN tell what note names are, where they are on the fretboard, octave, sharp or flat. I have that special sense of musical memory where I can listen to a song, learn it after a few times through, and play it back for you note for note., I've done this all of my musical life starting at the age of 3 years playing my mother's piano practice pieces, and it just progressed from there. Now I'm 62 years old and can play circles around the "haters". I'm not bragging but doing the work is an essential part of the learning curve. I have no regrets and I've benefitted from this ability. So, for all lyou self taught musicians, keep doing what you're doing and don't let people tell you anything different. Ignore those haters, they'll hate themselves after a time.
Paul V. Gentile I AM RIGHT THERE WITH YOU, AND YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT!!!!
I'm self taught and I don't suck! I only kind of suck! My level of mediocrity is very difficult to attain. People could train for years and not be as mediocre as me.
I’m self taught and I’m getting better every single day. I think that now I can teach people how to be self taught. Peace!
It depends on what the word SUCK means to you..because even when you are selftaught you can still be a succesful musician...sure,you will probably not know a lot of like techniques and sheet music and this kind of stuff...but it doesn't matter because even that way you can make a great music,it will just probably take you more time.the most important thing in music,I think,is to play with passion.
Totally agree man!
Yea man take Kurt Cobain, Hendrix, Grohl, Prince, Bowie they never had a single lesson
This is kind of Bullshit tbh. When I say I'm self taught, which I have been since I was 16, I mean I learn all that stuff. I subdivide my practice time into technique and music theory. For technique i do things like scales, arpeggios, repertoires etc and for theory I read a PDF file of Music theory in Conjunction with one of the guitar method books. You can do soo much on your own. When I started I would go to the websites of universities and look at the course syllabus of Guitar classes and just emulate them.
+Logan Creagh or Eddie van halen
I struggle with the concept of being a self taught musician. Technically I never took a formal lesson, and beyond a few years of music and choir classes I took early in my educational career, never pursued music classes in high school or college. Yet I put in countless hours over the past 6 or so years trying to unlock the mystery which at the time and still is the bass guitar.
Everything I learned I was taught by the bass players who give free lessons on RUclips. Scott's bass lessons, Mark from Talking Bass and many others. despite never having any one on one time that catered to my development, I have had to judge my own playing ability over time and determine myself where I need to work more on and what I already feel comfortable with. That is where the self taught comes in. The ciriticism comes from within, rather than from an outside source. But where to look for information and its availability come from this wonderful resource we call the internet. All the lessons you could ever have are right up in that search bar.
I'm a self taught guitarist since about 1967 and although I like to think I do a good job ( I've been in many bands with many line up's and still gig now )I often wish I had taken lessons early on as I feel my skills are limited. I'm not hung upabout it and find this video quite funny but I do like working with skilled musicians most of which with a bit of flattery are more than happy to impart some technical knowledge to improve my lead solo's or chord structures. Essentially music should be about expressing yourself and it should be fun, not about how many notes you can hit per second, I think music ( particularly lead guitar)has been turned into a sport and a lot of the soul has gone out of it.to quote keith Richards " the music rocks but doesn't roll .
i don't get how anyone can claim to be self taught. if you learned it from somewhere, then you aren't self taught. i learned my scales from a google search, i didn't sit there and go, "well i don't know what scales or chords are so i'm just gonna fret different notes till i like what i hear"
ben garcia you should be able to figure out scales by ear. Maybe not the correct finger positions though. As for chords, I learned most of them online or from friends with the exception of a few.
actually, ben, that is precisely what some of us do. I can't read sheet music, I don't know any actual chords, I can't seem to be taught anything by anyone (not just music either) without both sides becoming incredibly frustrated with each other. I can barely read tab enough to figure out a basic blues scale. On paper, it seems like I shouldn't even be allowed to own a guitar. however, I can do power chords, finger taps, pick sweeps, and chugging, drop D stuff like a mother fucker. in fact, even though I don't know enough to not suck, every time I play around a non musician, they want me to teach them a simple punk or metal riff. I guess wingin' it isn't always a bad thing.
"Self taught" means not having an actual live human coach telling you what you're doing wrong on real time and being able to figure those things out by yourself.
Your idea doesn't make sense, no one learns stuff out of nowhere, we're not living in the XV century anymore. If I went out in the woods disconnected of everything and just sit there in silence I won't learn physics.
***** if nobody can just learn stuff out of nowhere, than how does music even exist? Better yet, how does any form of knowledge or talent even exist? Everything has to start somewhere, and a lot of times, that "somewhere" is through experimentation.
That's not the same thing. That's why I said we're not living in the XV century anymore. Experimentation and discovery is a must on scientific fields where there's a lot of stuff in this universe that's not properly explained yet, but music's a different matter. You'll never learn music theory out of nowhere.
You can train your ears to understand dissonance by yourself (I did that), but you won't learn actual theory that way.
why cant i like this video more than once!!
First off, I didn't even see the original video and I don't really get what is going on. I am not some offended guy, but I do want to comment on your definition of self-taught in this video.
If you had a formal teacher, you were not self-taught just because you learned. You were taught. You had someone tell you exactly what to learn and what to practice and you just did that. The difference between being taught and self-taught is that self-taught musicians have to figure out what they need to learn, as well as actually learning those things. It takes more motivation and more trial and error. There is a difference between having someone show you the scales and chords and you going home to practice them, and you messing around on the guitar alone and figuring out what sounds good, or looking online for different chord types etc. I understand the internet can still be a form of "teacher" but it isn't quite the same.
Who's gonna give me back those 4 minutes of senseless video?
Did the guy who invented the guitar, have a guitar teacher... hmm okay then
+Eric Castilo I don't think you got my point. :)
Just joking around man, nothing but respect for your videos just making fun :)
+Eric Castilo I totally misread your comment, I apologize! Thanks so much for your support! :)
brilliant title and very good points! There are so many resources online that there is no excuse not to further increase your musical skills to whatever level you are striving for. I took piano lessons as a teen. I am now 47 and learning guitar. I've learned at my pace and there are a ton of free online teachers . there is bound to be a person that you "connect" with. your spot on with the point in the video!
I agree, I am mostly a Self Taught guitarist, and I consider myself not a good one, but eventually I took lessons from very good, competent musicians and I improve sustancially after those lessons.
Conclusion: I would be a better musician if I take more often real live lessons from compelling professional musicians
True I am self taught and I don't know cords and what notes the strings were until I ask people and did the same improve dramatically
"I play the guitar. I taught myself how to play the guitar, which was a bad decision because I didn’t know how to play it. So I was a shitty teacher. I would never have went to me."
-Mitch Hedberg
Try watching the whole video before commenting
True that!!! I never had a lesson in person but the amount of hours I spent watching people play and talking about it is mental. I still can't read music but before RUclips I didnt even understand guitar tabs.
Diatonic harmony, chord formulas, scales, modes, arpeggios... All this information is available for free. An instructor might save you some time, but like Dave said, you still have to do the work, so you still have to invest yourself regardless of whether or not you pay for tutelage.
+eddieisfiction I totally agree. You're never finished learning. You've never really mastered the thing, and just when you think you've got your arms around it, you find yourself in a rut. Then you have to approach the instrument from a whole other angle. Sometimes you forget stuff you could play blindfolded! Maybe it comes back, maybe it doesn't. It's a bumpy ride, but still totally worth the migraines and blisters :)
Good grief, judging by many of the comments here, .some people just don't get irony.
Dimebag Darrell was fully self taught and he turned out to be one of the best guitar players that ever lived
Dave, you're a hoot man! Thanks for helping me yesterday.
Dude come on, self taught musicians would obviously take that to heart. I sort of understand what he is saying tho. I learned guitar by myself by ear and yes a teacher could take me to new levels of playing, but iv always believed that if your self taught then your music shows your own style of playing instead of other people's songs and reach higher levels by yourself.
Funny stuff, Dave. No idea why people get twisted about these things. Thanks for continuing the videos, and for the great learning materials at Guitar Playback.
Most people who claim they're "self taught" aren't actually self taught, they just learned from the Internet or from an app. Guys, being self taught is literally just listening to music and watching people play and teaching yourself! Not, "not having a teacher"
There is a diff between skills and creativity you need to learn guitar technical chords notes sweeps picking from a teacher
Creativity is your own quality
As a self taught guitar player I actually agree with you, what you say very much reflects my own experience. There is just so much stuff out there and quite often it doesn't make sense at all. But I did (accidentally) bump into a few good books that taught me theory. Most of all, I learned a lot from playing with other musicians, especially musicians who were way ahead of me. I do practice my ear on a daily basis, do sight reading (horrible, painful stuff) play along to as many (jazz) records as I can, try to keep up with the theory and am painfully aware that it's actually the simple stuff that is most in important. This way I kind of taught myself to play jazz, sort of. But I do miss proper feedback from time to time, especially when I get stuck. I can figure out a Charlie Parker lick allright, but applying all that musical quicksilver in my own playing is really difficult. I only got a bit of discipline in training and practicing the guitar in my forties. I have made a lot of headway, but look back at the past thirty years with a certain regret - just to realise how much better I could have been if had had some discipline and yes, a good teacher.
you sir just earned a sub
im self taught
but that doesnt stop me from doing research on techniques and other such. it's a lot better than a teacher because you can move at your own pace.
Um, you can learn at your own pace with teacher too.
+SlenderBird with a private teacher
I've always had an ear for rhythm and tempo and could play by ear really well. I regret learning many instruments by ear, though. Reading music from a sheet makes it so much easier and faster to learn accurately, and if I put in the time to learn that at the beginning then I'd probably be a lot better off now...
Charlie Christian and Wes Montgomery were Self Taught Jazz Guitarists! My Dad was a Jazz Musician who was Self Taught because he was Musically Literate.
Myself, I haven't watched the original video but I'll have to check it out! I'm self taught, and am a few months away from 18 years of playing and to be honest, dedicating that much time hasn't yielded too much progress up until a couple of years ago. About 7 years ago, I vehemently opposed lessons and learning theory but things have changed. I used to believe that learning the technical and theoretical approaches to guitar would take away the fun and that I'd just wank and do nothing but boring noodling, and diminishing the songwriting process. I haven't done so yet, but I'm definitely interested in investing money to learn under a skilled teacher. Once the modes, scales, and legato are picked up I'll definitely be able to tell a difference. I can already tell a difference in my playing now vs a couple years ago and I look forward to improvement! It's amazing what constant practice can do to make a guitarist better, and now I'm off to watch this other video!
Take care and have a great day!
What about self-taught pianists? :p I totally agree though, when I get lessons the 20 minutes a week I spend with my teacher makes up for only 1% of the work I actually put into my playing and developing as a musician... great video man.
I know lots of smug people who went to some expencive music school, but in reality can't play one song straight, while I am personally someone who invested the past years into guitar and bass on my own, practicing at least 2 hours daily, with the result of playing in a rather sucessful band now (which I thought would never be possible, because people kept telling me, that I have to go to music school to have any chance of that ever happening). I do want to catch up on the theory as soon as I'm done with university and can afford a teacher, but I think first and foremostly, learning how your fingers, ears and eyes work together is more important than knowing the location and name of every note by heart from the start. There is a difference between feeling for music and knowledge about it and feeling is something that can't be taught, but has to be discovered.
And on a side note: Only self-absorbed idiots (not talking about you necessarily) pretend that music is some kind of rocket science only they and a chosen few can master x3
Lyosha Mikalenkova YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT!!!
You, of course, are correct.
You're right. There is no longer any excuse for not learning music theory. I may be self-taught at guitar, but having a life-long relationship with music at mother's insistence, taught me the value of learning the theory behind what I was doing.
I enjoyed the first video and I did enjoy this one too. Great job and please,,,, keep on posting !!!
Definitely agree, and I was definitely the type of person you were talking about. The type of person who just knows the basic major chords and some minor chords maybe, and their training is mostly using tabs online to learn their favorite songs. But they really know very little about their instrument and they couldn't create a song of any quality on their own. People say Jimi Hendrix was self taught, and maybe he was or wasn't, but he knew music theory which is imperative to being a good musician.
Good for you man, no one is really self taught but eveyone is self motivated. It's up to the player to seek out thier own improvement. There is no excuse to not know even basic theory today. Maybe not at first obviously but it should be a sign post on the road to improvment. I feel the whole "self taught" label is usually a humble brag when you get down to it. I know because I'm "self taught" and I used it that way. I know others who did too.
You don't need a teacher to rock n roll
i agree with you. I thought i was good until i had guitar class. the teacher is amazing and fun. didnt even know what aeolian ionian mixolidian and those things were. I really think that if you want to become a great musician, you'd have to learn and understand music theory. And there is A lot to learn like the circle of fifths, minor/major triads, how to know which is major, minor, or diminished in a key... yea theres a lot more. So if you're self taught, you should probably try to learn more. and being self taught doesnt necessarily mean you suck, you just dont have enough knowledge. so yea those are my thoughts about this topic.
true, been going to guitar lessons for a few weeks now, and I learned more in the past 10 minutes by looking at tabs and learning how to play than all those classes put together
I am not self-taught, but I am learning on my own. Still a long way to go, and you inspire me. Thanks!
Knowledge is power and deliberate practice with a great teacher can be amazing. However, I'm still amazed by guys like Wes Montgomery and their harmonic command without any formal training and no RUclips, digital slowdowns etc.
having attended university for a semester in music, I'll say this: you can read all the theory you want, but it really takes a teacher to show you how to apply it.
and I DO feel self taught musicians are at a disadvantage in playing, and especially, composing.
I never took lessons and did teach myself to play guitar and am a theory junkie and find this hilarious! What's funny is most people that are really into theory aren't "elitists" but are just perceived to be by people who think it makes you less of a musician to actually know what you're doing. I can very slowly read some music but can't sight read. People are always like "Jimi Hendrix couldn't read music!" or "Wes Montgomery couldn't read music!" but that's not to say they were completely clueless. They actually both knew their instruments AND music VERY well. Just because I'm self taught doesn't mean that I can't know the reasons behind things. Knowing theory to me is more about knowing a "language" that enabled me as a teenager to sit in with bands of older musicians on a second's notice because they would just go "it's a I-IV-5 in G" and I would instantly know what to do. It just opens more opportunities is all.
so whT does a I I'v in g mean? lol I want to learn all that shit too like the numbers and which key but don't know where to start
Mel Alvarez A 1 4 5 is the 1st 4th and 5th "scale degrees" of the major scale. The formula for that scale is Whole Step Whole Step Half Step Whole Step Whole Step Whole Step Half Step. The first note is the 1 the 4th note is the 4 and the fifth note is the 5. The 8th note is the octave and from that you keep counting up and that's how a lot of jazz chords are built.
Ohhhh okay, what's some videos on here I could watch to get a better understanding of the whole half step half-step whole step and the different scales, I really want to get this info down, thanks for replying man I appreciate it
Well if you look at the first dot on your fretboard it is on the 3rd fret. If you look at the next dot it is on the 5th fret. That's a whole step. The half step is the space between that. A half step just means one fret up from the fret you are currently on. A whole step means 2 frets up from the one you are on. It also works backwards like that. A half step DOWN would be on fret DOWN from the fret you are currently on. A whole step DOWN would be two frets DOWN from where you are currently at. That's the basics. Also a good way to learn your "Fourths" easy is to look at your guitar in standard tuning. It is generally tuned to "fourths" with a major 3rd going from G to B strings. Basically, from low to high, from E to A is a 4th. From A to D is a 4th. From D to G is a 4th. Then from G to B is a Major 3rd. The reason for that is because B is the 3rd scale degree in the major scale of B. Then from B to E is a 4th. Also the thing to know about Major 3rds is that all major chords are built off of them. A standard G major just means it has a G,B,D in the chord. A major chord is built off of the 1,3,5 of the major scale. So in the key of C the 1 3 5 would be C-E-G. That's a C Major chord. Then a G Major chord would be G,B,D because G is the first scale degree. B is the 3rd scale degree. D is the 5th scale degree. I hope this helps lead you down a road of understanding. It's really not as complicated as people make it out. I'm a self taught musician and even I can understand it and I'm really a pretty big moron. LOL!
wow made thanks for breaking it down so simple like that I finally get it man, I can't thank u enough man that helped big time
I am self taught on string bass and play in my school's jazz band.
Your school has a jazz band? That's awesome!
looks like we got a special fucking snowflake
Georginsky2000 Seems like he is.
I feel like anyone who comments, "B-B-BUT I CAN PLAY THIS, AND THIS PERSON WAS SELF TAUGHT" didn't even watch the video.
Nice video, man. I've learned the vast majority of what I know by myself, but that's because I learn backwards. I never looked anything up, I just used my ears. I was taught basic chords by my Dad and went from there. I ended up playing lotsa stuff that I'd never have learned if anyone tried to teach me. Sometimes I picked out a chord note by note, string by string. That was using a song as a reference, so... the song taught me? I dunno. Anyway. It's better for me to just play the damn thing, then figure out what it is afterwards. Hence, learning backwards. If I know How to do a thing already, the What and Why are just filling in small gaps in my knowledge.
I wish I had time to make a long comment but I"m too busy self-teaching right now! LOL
You are so right about that bro. The two things you need our passion and discipline. I have the passion but I lack discipline. lol
Im not gonna bother finishing this. I wish you luck on your quest for more views my boy. God luck and good speed!
I’m a self taught guitarist and programmer. Now I work for a big company like google and Microsoft. Will start doing covers of major songs. Guys where there is a will there is a way ✌🏻
Im a self taught and you can learn theory if you study hard and practise daily. You can try purchase books on theory and plenty of online stuff. The guy is right, to properly teach yourself you need major discipline.
Similar thing happened with my brother. He learns computer technology and got a lot of knowledge from the Internet, and that's it! He learnt more by sitting in front of the computer than by school teaching! His ICT teachers also tell him that his level of knowledge is that of a university student. Seriously, he is the best of the best in his class! Musicians can do that too and be the same. All we need to do is find the information from a trust-worthy website.
Then why did SRV and Jimi Hendrix take off?
+avery surratt Did you watch the end of the video or just comment on the title? ;)
honestly.. my main reason why I'm investing money for music school, skilled teacher, etc. It's because there are many "links" music business industry that i need, whether i become session player for artist, composer, producer, or session player for recording. The other reason is, i love to meet a new people, especially when they are high skilled musicians, so i can exchange some ideas with them and maybe steal their "language prhases". Music theory always have same concept but when people start to using it, there will be a different implementations because each person have unique "prhases"
NOT EDDIE VAN HALEN
Salut, David. Je suis américain et anglophone, mais j’étudie le français parce que j'aime les langues étrangères. J’étudie aussi la guitare, et c'est pour ça que je t'ai trouvé sur RUclips. Pendant quelque temps, je me demandais si tu étais anglophone ou non, et je croyais que tu étais "étranger" mais a cause de ton anglais presque parfait, je n’étais pas sur de ce qu’était ta langue maternelle. Mais a la fin de cette vidéo, tu as dis "salut" et la j'ai su que c’était le français. J’espère un de ces jours de parler français avec la moitie de l’adresse avec laquelle tu parle anglais. Eh ouais, tu joues "assez bien" de la guitare, aussi. Bonne continuation, mec, tu rock.
It always freaks me out when someone posts a reply to something I wrote and I'm thinking I don't even remember writing that. Then looking at the date it's something I wrote a year or more ago.
Im a self taught guitarist and bassist but I know theorybecause of my piano teacher. My dad is a full time guitarist and has His own musicschool so I also learned from him.
+David Wallimann don't worry about the people who didn't get your point. I played the guitar since i was 12 and sucked at it for all my life. People like you however give me hope that I can have my guitar skills better as long as I am dedicated to it. I am just one guy from a third world country; I'm sure there are more in the world who shares my sentiment and agree with you. Thank you for all your videos by the way, I learned a lot from it. Hope to see more from you.
+Christian Paul Ramos Thank you very much Paul!
as a self-taught player I think it doesn't really matter of you have lessons or not, what truly matters is to start playing with other musicians as early as you can and do it a lot, I know some guys who have all the theory and everything, but still suck at playing with others because they just never practised it
The good thing about being self-taught is that you might just develop some unique techniques along the way.
There is a difference between teaching and learning. No one can learn for you but you can definitely be taught.
As was said to me - "A talented professionally schooled musician can always learn something from a beginner". I play "by ear" and it is hard. Ears are soft and it hurts like hell.
i'm self taught. i taught myself how to play guitar by watching my dad and my uncle. id pay close attention on how they'd put their fingers and i would go play what i thought i heard and that's how i learned, then i started improving my tone, learning new songs. and then bam not to brag but people say i'm probably one of the best guitarists in my little area.
Im a Widow in guitar. Self taught since I was in 3rd Grade. I Play Jazz and earn a living out of it do i suck now?
I started teaching myself guitar. Then I realized that I don't know shit about guitar, so I probably suck. I had a few scales my uncle penned down.
Meanwhile, I was taking drum lessons where multiple instruments were taught. Wanted to skip a lesson to see Ozzy in 1981, and teacher gave me a hard time "In the audience, or on the stage. Up to you." So I went to my lesson, figuring I'd go to the show a bit late.
Go to the bathroom to change, and I see some little chick standing at the sink. I walk over to say hello, and it's Randy Fucking Rhoads.
Then I said the first dumbest thing ever. "Hey, you're Randy Fucking Rhoads! What are you doing here?"
He said that he was taking a lesson. I misheard and thought he was teaching. He corrected me, and then I said the next most stupid thing ever.
"But you're Randy Rhoads. You don't need to take lessons!"
He explained to my 16-year-old self that he would call ahead while on tour and book lessons, partly to get warmed up for a show. But he had a second reason.
"There is always something to learn from someone else."
I took his words to heart, and it's been the greatest advice that I have ever received.
Got my Music Theory in college, brought it to LA, and it was mostly useless, except for a few situations. Still good to know the rules if one wishes to break them.
I'll admit I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to music theory. Hell, I can't even tell you the name of the note I'm playing at any given moment. I realize that I can never be a huge rock star without knowing at least half that stuff, but that isn't why I play. to me, it's purely for my own enjoyment. I do it mostly for the therapeutic effect music tends to have on me. I have actually rejected joining two different bands, partially because of this, but also because they seemed to think I was way more talented than I actually was. the point is, whether I suck or not, I just don't care. I enjoy my keyboards, bass, and electric guitars, and to me, that's all that matters.
a lot of people are butthurt but I'm just meh, because I used books but I am self taught, but I ended up learning a lot and I'm proud of it, if you got mad maybe it's because you need more practice however keep rocking everyone \m/
I think both self taught and taking lessons have its benefits. As long as am getting information to improve everything counts.
10 years ago i picked up an electric guitar and just watched people play and would just copy them and that's how i learn. i can do it with pretty much every instrument besides the drums. i need to listen to someone playing it in order to learn. apparently it's a "gift".
jacob harmer how did you learn what tuning your guitar should be in if nobody ever taught you and you never read any material?
I am knee deep into music, engeneering, audio postproduction, voice over acting. paying the bills with it full time (twi kids). I am completely and intentionally self thaught.
will check it out,good luck to you,be safe.
its good to learn music theory- i mean at least a little bit! it really does help with experimenting with weird chords that can make your music stand out. go online and look it up and try it out, that's what i call self teaching
I'm a "self taught" guitarist only because when I was younger I didn't have money to pay a teacher and living in the south you either learn country or bluesy styles of music.. nothing wrong with that but as a youngster I was wanting to be a "shredder" and I completely ignored the most important things so I regret learning like I did.. I can play damn near anything by ear and read tabs and all that but I can't tell you what key I'm in or the notes I'm playing or even the chord names.. so to everyone out there save up or find a local guitar clinic and attend.. learn from people who know what they're doing
Hey great video man, I've been playing gat for about 10 years but learning theory for the last 2 years, wow, really helps to know what your doing. One question though dude, what is the order in which to learn theory? Your right about the vast expanse of digital material on the web, but where do 'self taught' guitarists start? I think it would be safe to assume that most self taught guitarists know basic chords and chord shapes, pentatonic, blues and major/minor scales, maybe even some of the modal shapes. But where do we start to really learn? There is so much stuff out there like, interval theory, harmony, rhythm and timing (probably most important), melody, modes and their application (great vid by the way), etc. What should we start with and what to go to after that, and so on. Any info would be great, thanks David. Jack.
Cheers bro!
it's a good video and funny too....Laugh a lot... initially, thought it's some kind of awkward thing, but, when watched till the end, i like it... Good Way to attrack people, kinda feel amazing on twisting the word self taught... love it
Im self taught and can confirm I suck
thanks man!, yea it's the title that got me mad before watching it, i wouldn't take it down tho maybe change the title to something more positive, because you make valid points, keep on keeping on! oh i deleted my comment in doing so yours disappeared some how but thanks!
Thank you so much!
Good idea on the title!
This video made little sense to me. What if I learned music theory through separate instruments and self-taught myself guitar? Do I have to learn music theory through guitar also in order to not suck?
I taught my self half note whole notes quater note 8th notes and 16 notes and so on and i am really good at guitar,ukulele,drums,bass,Piano,trumpet
I don't have a problem with the idea of self taught, it's just that so many guitarists who are self taught pride themselves in not knowing how to read, theory, etc. If you are trying to make it in the music industry without knowing this stuff, it's like buying a lottery ticket and hoping you win.
you don't have to apologize. you just not know any better. it's okay
I can't believe people are getting so worked up on this lol! I'm "self taught" and I found it hilarious. I guess the difference is that I've taken the time to read the beginning pages of the books I've used to "teach myself" where it actually explains the theory behind what's going on. Read the words don't just look at the pictures!!!! Hilarious video!!
I tried learning with a teacher at first but I didn't like his style of playing and how slowly he made me go so I left that and just taught myself, I figure some people who are guitar teachers say that self taught guitarists suck only say that since they're getting no money from them, I personally just learn quickly and like being able to learn without getting in the habit of playing like a teacher
I was "self taught" ie, never took lessons but picked up bits & pieces from this guy or that guy then youtube & Jam Play and even some guy named David Wallimann ! last year though I took a big step at the ripe age of ??? and got some one on one lessons with Dave Nassie from Next Level Guitar fame and learned a stack of things from him in a short time that I doubt would happened otherwise or would have taken 5 years instead of 5 months .
I am self-taught up until I started teaching myself using RUclips. There's a wealth of information people can utilize watching videos on RUclips. Self-taught people can make themselves better by learning off others. I think this video was just trying to prove a point though.
+Anthony Silva thank you for getting it!! :)
"if you don't have the ability to find the answers on your own, then that's because you're self taught" 100% accurate and 100% hilarious! !
dime bag was self taught he had very basic knowledge of music. But still became a legendary player .