Is Scott Pilgrim the timeless classic we thought it was?

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  • @MaddoggComics
    @MaddoggComics  3 года назад +7

    WOOF WOOF! Sorry this video couldn't be released yesterday like planned, but I wanted to make sure it was done right. Ironically, there is now a low buzzing once it uploaded to RUclips which isn't in the original! I tried my best haha.
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    Anyway, I hope you enjoy this one, a lot of work went into it, and I tried a different approach to how I review books, so let me know if you prefer this style. I'm still learning here, and now is my time to try new things, so let me know which approach works better.
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    If you like this, please give it a thumbs up, and subscribe if you're new. If you could share the video, I'll love you forever (forever meaning until my awful diet catches up with me). The haul should be out next, but until then, stay Mad, Doggs! WOOF WOOF! 🐶

  • @pretty_puke
    @pretty_puke 2 года назад +26

    I actually like the fact that Scott Pilgrim was going for Ramona, because life isn’t interesting until you find something worth chasing. And I can relate to this story.

  • @jwilson544
    @jwilson544 3 года назад +26

    Gotta admit, I disagree with you about the final volume. Them realizing their fault and still putting up the good fight I found amazing. Being with Ramona isn't "us vs the world". It's "we're fucked up, but im willing to see it to the end if you are."

  • @9001Shadowwolf
    @9001Shadowwolf 3 года назад +16

    Me and the wife have been together since 11 and 12 so this series hurt me in ways I've never had to experience but I still really relate to a lot of the characters when they make certain mistakes, only we were making those mistakes in our teens.

    • @BenDover-st6gb
      @BenDover-st6gb 2 года назад +1

      Ok boomer

    • @9001Shadowwolf
      @9001Shadowwolf 2 года назад +2

      @@BenDover-st6gb nope, 1997. I ain't old yet, just an adult

    • @BenDover-st6gb
      @BenDover-st6gb 2 года назад +1

      @@9001Shadowwolf still, you're old

    • @BenDover-st6gb
      @BenDover-st6gb 2 года назад +2

      And who gets married so early?

    • @Boner__
      @Boner__ Год назад +1

      ​@@BenDover-st6gb yknow he's a millennial right?

  • @O_Osawa
    @O_Osawa Год назад +1

    Great review!
    I kinda like how Scott and Ramona ended up together because the whole journey got them both to be better persons, to fight their demons and at the end, even Ramona was insecure about their future, which then Scott said "now we try again", showing up that both knew they weren't a good couple. Their relationship was full of mistakes of both parts, but Scott was confident that now they could restart a very fresh relationship without worries of past mistakes and past demons, really appreciating and learning with each other. I don't think Scott would have the same experience with any other character, not because it would be impossible, but because all of what happened, happened with Ramona, and for that I can kinda see why Scott made the decision of trying again with her, as I can understand why Ramona, even with insecureness, gave them both a second chance.
    It's worth saying that we don't know if they stayed together until the end, what we do know is that they tried again, which for me is beautiful to see this effort coming from they two. They may have split up after some time, but now having learned to do things the right way.

  • @parisulki729
    @parisulki729 2 года назад +4

    Great review! I agree with many points you've brought up. The book does hit different when you are in your twenties.
    Also cool thing, that doesn't get brought up as much, is the theme of repressed memories.
    At first, Scott being forgetful seems like him being quirky and foolish, and in later books Kim reveals that his memories of him saving her are far from truth. He thought he was hero and stuff, but in reality he was kind of a jerk. I think glow represents repressed memories coming trough.
    Also i think that Ramona's bag is also a metaphor for emotional baggage, she always carries with herself. Because she is reluctant to show it's contents to Scott, and her memory of Gideon is in that bag. When the bag explodes in chaos theater it represents her opening herself up in front of everyone

  • @jcoral1
    @jcoral1 3 года назад +4

    Glad you got around to doing this retrospective! I think Perch and I are tackling this one soon since it's been on our list for months at this point. Great hearing what other people think of this one! And hoping you'll do some more retrospectives like this.

    • @MaddoggComics
      @MaddoggComics  3 года назад +1

      Thanks for watching it Joe! Give me a shout when you do the stream of it :) Let me know any titles you'd be interested in a retrospective on too! WOOF WOOF! 🐶

    • @jcoral1
      @jcoral1 3 года назад

      @@MaddoggComics No problem! And ugh it went up already! I'll definitely give you a shoutout coming up on something I do with Perch's channel though. I'd love to see you do a Matt Fraction's Iron Man retrospective; just saying. And here's the link to the Scott Pilgrim Retrospective we did the other day: ruclips.net/video/KwVndKYKDE0/видео.html

  • @druidcitycomic5426
    @druidcitycomic5426 2 года назад +3

    Great point about flashback pages with a black gutter being harder to parse when the comic is in color. The color naturally takes up more real-estate in our head, and the black gutter is a bit of an afterthought, as opposed to grayscale only, where it is probably the very first thing the reader will notice. With no set-up for the flashback, the color scheme really needed to be switched up to land properly. Something I'll have to consider myself!

  • @netherfreakultima4498
    @netherfreakultima4498 9 месяцев назад +1

    Loved the franchise ^^

  • @kennyjones7761
    @kennyjones7761 Год назад +1

    A series where it’s about Knives going through similar battles and development arc would be pretty interesting. 💯

  • @HighlandG
    @HighlandG 3 года назад +8

    Great Video. Its not a book I have read but I have seen the movie. I enjoyed the looser unscripted format.

    • @MaddoggComics
      @MaddoggComics  3 года назад

      Cheers mate :) it's kinda hard to find my rhythm with these reviews, it's a bit trial and error. The movie really is great though, would be cool to maybe do a review on that too. Thanks for giving it a watch mate! WOOF WOOF! 🐶

  • @nickdorenkamp959
    @nickdorenkamp959 2 года назад +2

    I honestly didn't mind the ending because while yeah a majority of the story was a boss fight, gotta remember that most Mangas have volumes that are mainly boss fights.

  • @mawinstallation6626
    @mawinstallation6626 11 дней назад

    You should watch the Netflix show about Scott Pilgrim. It was marketed as a 1:1 adaptation of the comic book but it was a bait-and-switch. It's a sequel to the comic books and the protagonist is Ramona. She show tackles really well how toxic and unstable their relationship is and all the characters get amazing development that they didn't have in the comic books (except Emvy and Lisa sadly, the latter not even showing up in there)

  • @ComicBound
    @ComicBound 3 года назад +4

    Great review Dogg! I read the first 2 books a long time ago which I enjoyed quite a lot but never got very motivated to pick up the 3rd, and so I lost interest. However, I think a large part of that was that the format was small and I didn't actually like the lack of colour, it was just something I tolerated during the first 2 books. I would love to give this series a second chance with the colour versions some day. I actually really like the cleaner look that you get with it. I loved the film so I'm kind of aware of most of the main themes and elements from that, but it does sound like there's a lot more to explore in the books. I think I'm gonna have to give it another try at some point.
    As for your review, I actually think it was a noticeable improvement in terms of just how well you articulated your thoughts in this one, and at the end when you mention you'd given it a go without so heavily scripting, it all made sense!
    Keep up the great work bro! WOOF WOOF!

    • @comicsvstheworld
      @comicsvstheworld 3 года назад

      It's criminal that you never finished it! Definitely one of the books that originally made me start appreciating stuff outside of the big two.

    • @ComicBound
      @ComicBound 3 года назад +1

      @@comicsvstheworld As soon as I hit "post", it dawned on me that you might have something to say about my comment! 😛
      I mean, this was a very long time ago now that I originally tried to read them. I must have been about 23 at the time, so clearly there wasn't a lot for me to connect with 🙄😅
      For you, Richard, I will give them another go! I think I will have to go the coloured version route though. I definitely think in a story like this, it's pretty essential in my mind and would have been one of the reasons it just didn't click with me in black & white.

    • @comicsvstheworld
      @comicsvstheworld 3 года назад

      @@ComicBound I'd like to read the colour versions, but there's too much other stuff on my Wishlist to start thinking about double dipping so I'm happy to stick with my well thumbed black and white copies. Hopefully you enjoy it when you get round to it!

    • @MaddoggComics
      @MaddoggComics  3 года назад

      Will be very interesting to hear what you think of the series now mate! It stepped up a bit in the 3rd in my opinion, and the movie neglected most of the smaller scenes from then onwards :)
      I appreciate the feedback too mate! I worried I rambled too much, but it just felt more organic than a script, so will stick with this approach! Thanks for watching mate! WOOF WOOF! 🐶

  • @Akirex5000
    @Akirex5000 2 года назад +1

    Scott Pilgrim: a story about two awful people who are willing to try to be less awful in order to be with each other

  • @dartagnanjames8069
    @dartagnanjames8069 10 месяцев назад

    Honestly, part of me thinks it would have made the most sense for Scott to end up with Kim, but I'm happy with their resolution. She's just the only other character that seemed right for him.

  • @comicsvstheworld
    @comicsvstheworld 3 года назад +4

    Great video Marcus! The editing on this was perfect 👌 Nice to take a longer look back over a series that was so impactful when it came out. I agree that the ending wasn't perfect, but I can accept it as one of those books that's more about the journey than the destination.

    • @MaddoggComics
      @MaddoggComics  3 года назад +1

      If there was one person I needed to approve of the video, it was Bryan Lee O'Malley but you're a close second! So thank you for giving it a watch! Interesting to know I'm not alone on the ending, but I'd love to do like a proper retrospective on the series, detailing it's origins, it's rise, completely unbiased :) Be interesting if that would sound interesting to you? Thanks for watching mate! WOOF WOOF! 🐶

    • @comicsvstheworld
      @comicsvstheworld 3 года назад

      @@MaddoggComics The retrospective sounds like a really good idea, a full history of how it came to be so popular and then it's effects on future comics. I think since you've only just done this review it's maybe too soon to think about doing another video on it now, but maybe test the format with something else first? The first thing that springs to mind that might be a good fit is Walking Dead?

  • @parisulki729
    @parisulki729 2 года назад +1

    Also i believe colored version to be superior, as it's much clearer, you can easily differentiate every character by their hair color and skin tone. I mean when i read it in BW long ago, i thought that Ramona was the drummer in Shatterband.
    On the other note, whole series feels so nostalgic already, with all the late 2000's tech and fashion. And the fact that it's universally loved by everyone, has great movie adaptation, has awesome game based on it, cast of the meeting again for script reading and NOW anime adaptation coming warms my heart so much. This is such a great timeless story ❤ Cool people aren't cool

  • @JCResDoc94
    @JCResDoc94 3 года назад +1

    *5:10** ohhhh! it was better in the original b&w manga, oh of course.* jk. gr8 vid.

  • @tigerguyhero8038
    @tigerguyhero8038 3 года назад +1

    You my friend obviously haven’t read enough manga. In manga a flash back is always black unless it’s a flash back in a flash back where then it is grey

  • @Joakimcomicscenter
    @Joakimcomicscenter 3 года назад +1

    Scott Pilgrim vs The World is pretty much my Go to movie, next to Robocop x)
    Really good review buddy, I won´t buy the books, but I am sure walking away with more knowledge of the series than what I had before arriving :)
    People who are having their doubts about picking it up will/should totally watch this video!

    • @MaddoggComics
      @MaddoggComics  3 года назад

      Such a good movie! I'd love to branch into retrospectives of different media, and that would be high on the list! (Maybe a collab?)
      Thank you for still checking it out, and at least now you know for certain you don't need to buy them haha! WOOF WOOF! 🐶

    • @Joakimcomicscenter
      @Joakimcomicscenter 3 года назад

      @@MaddoggComics I could absolutely spill my guts on what I think about Robocop!

  • @manuelpalacios9419
    @manuelpalacios9419 Год назад

    17:37 Dude, I can totally see that. Seriously.
    Plus, what you said before, about fighting for the wrong person or thing, I think that's really deep.

  • @JCResDoc94
    @JCResDoc94 3 года назад +1

    18:00 sunk cost fallacy

  • @Dennis-xm8uc
    @Dennis-xm8uc 3 года назад +1

    Woof Woof!
    Never read or watched Scott Pilgrim, but definitely going to!
    Great review!

    • @MaddoggComics
      @MaddoggComics  3 года назад

      Thank you Mr. Zoom! It really is a fun series, and I think when I first read it I was the same age as you are now, so would be interesting to hear your thoughts! WOOF WOOF! 🐶

  • @mipskymipingstoniii9057
    @mipskymipingstoniii9057 3 года назад +3

    I've been looking back at these books for the past few days, and I have to say there were a lot of missed opportunities for the last book. My personal would be a story about Scott and Wallace realizing they have been repressing feelings for each other and Scott still defeating the last guy because holy shit that dude is like super duper evil.

  • @ShawnLuster
    @ShawnLuster 2 года назад +2

    I really wanted Scott to not end up with Ramona. When I first read the book I thought he was going to out grow Ramona and just go off on his own.

  • @PerfectEditionComics
    @PerfectEditionComics 3 года назад

    Closet western manga fan....I see you 🧐

    • @MaddoggComics
      @MaddoggComics  3 года назад +1

      *sweats nervously* Have I ran out of 'My Girlfriend brought this, not me' passes? :P WOOF WOOF! 🐶

  • @kittykatj9132
    @kittykatj9132 3 года назад

    Nice video man

  • @cheeseballthegreat179
    @cheeseballthegreat179 3 года назад

    Great video (:

    • @MaddoggComics
      @MaddoggComics  3 года назад

      Thank you mate, it was fun to do this video, glad you enjoyed it! WOOF WOOF! 🐶