I think it's high time for a crossover event. If you liked the route, I think it's a good occasion to project it together with Ondra. After all, you two are the only two undisputed 9c climbers at the moment, so it would be fitting for you to establish another 9c together.
Note that Seb was belaying Ondra when he sent Silence, so wouldn't be the first time they were on a 9c together! Seb wasn't nearly climbing at that level at the time though.
@@CollinGill7I doesn't think so, I think Jakob was saying that it was probably 9b+ with perfect condition, but as the condition are always a bit bad it's probably 9c to climb it when it's not perfectly dry. So no 9c+
He deserves more subs but he’s not better than Ondra. It’s one thing to send hard routes but Ondra’s list of onsites and flashes set him apart. Even if Seb climbed Silence (two 9c routes)he still couldn’t be considered the best.
I think Seb is great, but disagree he’s better outdoors than Ondra Schubert Ghisolfi. Of course Seb’s tick list is bigger since the others also stop to compete in the IFSC & Olympics. Seb puts more time in outside. He is amazing and is on par for outdoor I would say, this past year.
Great video Seb, the last two dynos are sick. You just need to get these moves right, and link together, I am sure you can do it. I would like to see a Silence repeat, either you or Ghisolfi, and I also hope someone will try DNA, would love to know how it compares to Silence. Judging from the progress in 8 days, Project Big I suppose is something like 9b/+.
Like adam, jakob and seb said, the single moves aren't super hard (for climbers with a potential for 9c). It's the amount of moves, I think its 80m long, with the hardest right at the end that makes it hard. Still very well could be 9c, having 3 of the best climbers projecting it and not yet sending.
i think if the hardest moves are right at the end the difficulty of those moves can be slightly lower compared to cruxmoves in other climbs of the same grade, that are at the beginning of the route. if a route is 8C+ into easy climbing you need to do the crux once and you can try it over and over again, because it doesnt suck as much energy. If the crux after 70m of climbing is an 8B+/8C then that should add to about the same difficulty, depending on the rest, of the rests are bad the last boulder could even be easier and still recieve the same grade
It's the gym Ondra built when he was projecting Silence. I think it's in a barn not too far away. Must be convenient cause you see it in almost every video where people go climbing in this cave
Faut regarder Reel Rock tour 17, ça commence au salon de l'escalade le 29 septembre. Une fois la tournée terminée, peut-être qu'on pourra les voir sur youtube mais pas sûr, il y a des droits j'imagine.
It seems like 9b+, based on what Adam and Jakob have said about it. Definitely not 9c+ since if it was that hard, they'd all be saying its the hardest thing they've tried.
Bonjour Seb ! Belle vidéo et beau projet ! Étant un peu nouveau dans l'escalade, j'avais en tête que l'ouvreur avait la "priorité" de la FA sur sa voie. Comment cela se passe à haut niveau? Est-ce que vous en discutez entre athlètes? Est-ce au bon vouloir des "concurrents" même si vous ne l'êtes pas vraiment? Merci ! 🙂
Salut, à haut niveau comme ça personne n'a de priorité sur l'ascension. C'est tellement dur que si tu dois attendre que le mec ait réussi la voie tu en as pour un bout de temps... Meme a moyen niveau ca ne se fait pas trop en réalité (ca depend de ton éthique en vrai). Quand j'ouvre/equipe une voie je le fait pour les autres plus que pour moi. Ce n'est pas ton rocher mais celui de tout le monde
@@2gouv Justement, c'est tellement du haut niveau et que chacun de ces grimpeurs passent leurs temps à chercher une "King line", ça peut être rageant de se la voir piquer par un autre. Avant, c'était simple, il suffisait de pas trop en parler. Mais avec la nécessité de faire des vidéos, du suivis pour les sponsors, je doute qu'un projet reste secret bien longtemps. Évidemment pour le commun des mortels c'est différent. Encore que... si tu passes ton temps libre a ouvrir une voie, ça semble logique de vouloir la faire avant les autres. (c'est toi qui a investi ton temps, ton argent, ta motivation...)
@@bastouflette2552 l'escalade est un sport sans règles, il n'y a que ta propre éthique qui va dicter tes règles. Ce n'est pas dans l'éthique des "grands grimpeurs" de penser qu'une ligne est le sienne. Souvent les gens estiment que le rocher est a tout le monde et le premier qui arrive a enchainer peut-être n'importe qui
Je pense que ça dépend du grimpeur. Ondra (qui a équippé les voies je crois) a toujours été dans le partage là dessus, c'est assez fréquent qu'il invite des gens dessus (par exemple schubert sur project big). J'ai l'impression que c'est assez courant au top niveau de travailler les voies dures à plusieurs, cf par exemple Excalibur de ghisolfi
En théorie tout le monde peut essayer... Mais certains grimpeurs sont un peu moins accommodant : sharma par exemple aime bien qu'on lui laisse ses projets...
The plural of moose is moose like the plural of deer is deer, but the more people say meese the more accepted it'll be so I say meese because it sounds better
They come from different etymological places. Goose came from the same language group as foot -> feet, but moose entered English lexicon hundreds of years later from a Native American language and has no shared roots in pluralization
No of course not. Not even close. If you read the description he only spent 8 days on the project. DNA took him 250 tries. Not even comparable. This is most likely a 9b/+ route, definitely not a 9c.
man you are quite the hater, jacob schubert and adam ondra, both of whom who fit the style of this route wayyyy better are both struggling. if you watch adams (or jacobs) video on the route both of them recon the crux is significantly higher up than the section seb is struggling on. dont get me wrong, seb bouin is definitely capable of climbing this route but i dont think saying its 9b/+ is fair. @@biomorphic
Hater, for what? This route is not going to be a 9c. It will not take the effort required by Silence or DNA. Happy to be proved wrong, but I am pretty sure I am not.@@mrwhale7875
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The wall of the cave looks so much bigger when you see all those people on the ground. Good luck Seb!
Seb you are one of the most engaging and exciting climbers to watch. You pull us right in with you. I feel the pump watching you. Love this!
Seb is the one actually climbing and the only one not getting pumped haha
I think it's high time for a crossover event. If you liked the route, I think it's a good occasion to project it together with Ondra. After all, you two are the only two undisputed 9c climbers at the moment, so it would be fitting for you to establish another 9c together.
Note that Seb was belaying Ondra when he sent Silence, so wouldn't be the first time they were on a 9c together! Seb wasn't nearly climbing at that level at the time though.
do you think its possible this will be the first 9c+? would that be 5.16a in YDS?
@@CollinGill7I doesn't think so, I think Jakob was saying that it was probably 9b+ with perfect condition, but as the condition are always a bit bad it's probably 9c to climb it when it's not perfectly dry. So no 9c+
@@TristanCleveland he belayed for some time, but not on the send go I believe
@@CollinGill7 I think so, if he could do some impossible endurance problem, since he's a genetic mutant when it comes to endurance.
Allez Seb !
On attend avec impatience la réussite de Project Big, Move et Silence dans l'année :-)
C'est magnifique !! Les plans sont d'une beauté rare...
Bon courage Seb !
I love the close up shots !!
Nice, it would be great to see you and Adam send each other's routes!
That's an aggresively pink rope + draw set though, easy to know when it needs cleanign I guess
So psyched to see you work on this and other stuff in the cave, best of luck!
Seb is maybe currently the best outdoor sport climber. He deserves more than 20,000 subs!!!
subs aren't the measure of climbing ability
He deserves more subs but he’s not better than Ondra. It’s one thing to send hard routes but Ondra’s list of onsites and flashes set him apart. Even if Seb climbed Silence (two 9c routes)he still couldn’t be considered the best.
@@chrissmithdoe2100 didn’t say it was. It’s a sign of popularity. He should be more popular. And it’s also a sign of marketability, if he wants.
@@MarkS-fc7ls the operative word is “currently”. His last year’s productivity is higher than any other sport climber.
I think Seb is great, but disagree he’s better outdoors than Ondra Schubert Ghisolfi. Of course Seb’s tick list is bigger since the others also stop to compete in the IFSC & Olympics. Seb puts more time in outside. He is amazing and is on par for outdoor I would say, this past year.
Allez Seb! Tu peux le faire!!! 💪
Wow~I would love to go there~
Keep going Seb, you will send this project together with Adam and Jacob soon.
Great video Seb, the last two dynos are sick. You just need to get these moves right, and link together, I am sure you can do it. I would like to see a Silence repeat, either you or Ghisolfi, and I also hope someone will try DNA, would love to know how it compares to Silence. Judging from the progress in 8 days, Project Big I suppose is something like 9b/+.
Like adam, jakob and seb said, the single moves aren't super hard (for climbers with a potential for 9c). It's the amount of moves, I think its 80m long, with the hardest right at the end that makes it hard. Still very well could be 9c, having 3 of the best climbers projecting it and not yet sending.
i think if the hardest moves are right at the end the difficulty of those moves can be slightly lower compared to cruxmoves in other climbs of the same grade, that are at the beginning of the route.
if a route is 8C+ into easy climbing you need to do the crux once and you can try it over and over again, because it doesnt suck as much energy. If the crux after 70m of climbing is an 8B+/8C then that should add to about the same difficulty, depending on the rest, of the rests are bad the last boulder could even be easier and still recieve the same grade
Have fun on this one Seb! Looks super cool and really challenging ;)
You are a beast! Glad to hear you like it her i Norway 👍
At 4:43 where he grabs and initiates a swing on the quick draw in order to make the rest position better is techy. Do other people do this?
Yeah, it's situational but people do it. I've seen it both irl and in other videos from top climbers
Stefano Ghisolfi does it too
9C? I can't fathom that. I've been struggling with 6B+ for ages.
Seb Bouin: is it big enough?
Jakob Schubert: yes, it is.
Bientôt 3 9C à flattanger 🤯
Allez seb! Achete toi une cabane en Norvège et plie tout ces projets !
Those bolts have been in the cliff two years and pretty rusted 1:59 maybe a place for titanium?
Pretty sure it was bolted with silence so closer to 5 years ago, point still stands though
How does one bolt a route like this by the way ?
@@MalcolmBasenji by hanging on the previous bolt, or hang from removable gear. Its quite a lot work to bolt a route but it stays a long time
@@Ben-ew3hvboth routes were bolted alongside Change, Move, and a number of others back in 2011 or 2012
keep going strong Seb!
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😁👍
I would enjoy the walk to the crag.
How far is the cave from the training place 😅? Is he still warm?
It's the gym Ondra built when he was projecting Silence. I think it's in a barn not too far away. Must be convenient cause you see it in almost every video where people go climbing in this cave
super film
what shoes does he wear now?
Nice!
La vidéo sur DNA stp
Faut regarder Reel Rock tour 17, ça commence au salon de l'escalade le 29 septembre. Une fois la tournée terminée, peut-être qu'on pourra les voir sur youtube mais pas sûr, il y a des droits j'imagine.
After Adam and Jakob, the ladder gave up
Jeez that rope is bright
New rope for climbing during the night 😁
What is proposed grade of Project Big?
We don t know yet but for sure 9b+
Black diamond will give him big check if hi climb this before Ondra😂
New Eb shoes? 👀
He is climbing with BD shoes now! At least i think
i understand its all relative and to a 5.15 climber a 7A is nothing but as someone who has to project 5.11s calling a 7A start easy is so funny to me
OMG! He is hot on their heels! Top lad!!
That's what she said
1:38. WAAaAaAah
1:40 hard moves are hard for him.
could project big be the first 9C+? or is it on par with silence and DNA?
It seems like 9b+, based on what Adam and Jakob have said about it. Definitely not 9c+ since if it was that hard, they'd all be saying its the hardest thing they've tried.
So is project Big an open project?
Has been since it was bolted over a decade ago. It's just that no one has cared to try it until last year
Bonjour Seb ! Belle vidéo et beau projet !
Étant un peu nouveau dans l'escalade, j'avais en tête que l'ouvreur avait la "priorité" de la FA sur sa voie. Comment cela se passe à haut niveau? Est-ce que vous en discutez entre athlètes? Est-ce au bon vouloir des "concurrents" même si vous ne l'êtes pas vraiment?
Merci ! 🙂
Salut, à haut niveau comme ça personne n'a de priorité sur l'ascension. C'est tellement dur que si tu dois attendre que le mec ait réussi la voie tu en as pour un bout de temps... Meme a moyen niveau ca ne se fait pas trop en réalité (ca depend de ton éthique en vrai). Quand j'ouvre/equipe une voie je le fait pour les autres plus que pour moi. Ce n'est pas ton rocher mais celui de tout le monde
@@2gouv Justement, c'est tellement du haut niveau et que chacun de ces grimpeurs passent leurs temps à chercher une "King line", ça peut être rageant de se la voir piquer par un autre.
Avant, c'était simple, il suffisait de pas trop en parler. Mais avec la nécessité de faire des vidéos, du suivis pour les sponsors, je doute qu'un projet reste secret bien longtemps.
Évidemment pour le commun des mortels c'est différent. Encore que... si tu passes ton temps libre a ouvrir une voie, ça semble logique de vouloir la faire avant les autres. (c'est toi qui a investi ton temps, ton argent, ta motivation...)
@@bastouflette2552 l'escalade est un sport sans règles, il n'y a que ta propre éthique qui va dicter tes règles. Ce n'est pas dans l'éthique des "grands grimpeurs" de penser qu'une ligne est le sienne. Souvent les gens estiment que le rocher est a tout le monde et le premier qui arrive a enchainer peut-être n'importe qui
Je pense que ça dépend du grimpeur. Ondra (qui a équippé les voies je crois) a toujours été dans le partage là dessus, c'est assez fréquent qu'il invite des gens dessus (par exemple schubert sur project big). J'ai l'impression que c'est assez courant au top niveau de travailler les voies dures à plusieurs, cf par exemple Excalibur de ghisolfi
En théorie tout le monde peut essayer... Mais certains grimpeurs sont un peu moins accommodant : sharma par exemple aime bien qu'on lui laisse ses projets...
Is it big enough for what?
Actually I'd like it a bit bigger please
Allez Séb mange le ce cailloux !
If the plural of goose is geese, is the plural of moose supposed to be meese?
The plural of moose is moose like the plural of deer is deer, but the more people say meese the more accepted it'll be so I say meese because it sounds better
They come from different etymological places. Goose came from the same language group as foot -> feet, but moose entered English lexicon hundreds of years later from a Native American language and has no shared roots in pluralization
@@MrMediumJohnson but why do they walk so weird?
@@taiiiz3969 Deer is obviously the plural form. Singular is actually "door" ;)
"Project big. Is it big enough?" That's what she said.
harder than DNA?
No of course not. Not even close. If you read the description he only spent 8 days on the project. DNA took him 250 tries. Not even comparable. This is most likely a 9b/+ route, definitely not a 9c.
man you are quite the hater, jacob schubert and adam ondra, both of whom who fit the style of this route wayyyy better are both struggling. if you watch adams (or jacobs) video on the route both of them recon the crux is significantly higher up than the section seb is struggling on. dont get me wrong, seb bouin is definitely capable of climbing this route but i dont think saying its 9b/+ is fair. @@biomorphic
Hater, for what? This route is not going to be a 9c. It will not take the effort required by Silence or DNA. Happy to be proved wrong, but I am pretty sure I am not.@@mrwhale7875
@@biomorphiccould very much be a 9c, it is at least 9b+
That's what I wondered. I guess it's hard but differently.
Thanks Seb for continuing on Project Big was wondering when a new video about it was coming lol awesome!!!