"WIVES SUBMIT" - What it REALLY means! Bible Study
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- Опубликовано: 4 дек 2015
- An unashamed teaching on this controversial and often misunderstood passage.
What submission is/isn't, how to submit and when not to.
1 Peter 3:1-6
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My mom was saved out of Woodstock style second-wave-feminism. She studied submission deeply after she found Jesus. Her motto is “ Trust God and trust your husband, and when (not if) you can’t trust your husband, trust God.”
She was wise woman. I would have mocked such faith in the past but I've seen too many strange occurrences after my mother, grandmother, and grandfather pray about things. They tend to come true or issues resolve themselves in strange ways. So I guess it is true you should trust God but it's easier said then done.
I love this.
There are no "waves" in feminism. It's all the same spawn from hell to enslave women to the government.
Praise God 🙏🏽
I love that I think I’ll write it somewhere
Ugh this is a hard one for me. I have been sinfully un-submissive to my husband. I needed to hear this teaching today... the Lord has been showing me my blindspots and this is one of them. Pray I will be able to do this as my service to the Lord.
Praying for you sister. It's a hard thing, but one that will ultimately reap an incredible harvest. God can do exceedingly abundantly beyond all that we ask or even imagine, so keep asking our Lord to bless you with the ability to submit biblically to your husband, and then wait expectantly upon Him.
@@melraelee Thank you! I will be praying exactly that.
It all comes down to respect. As a non believer agnostic I learned to respect and treat others the way you want to be treated.
So many scripture and Godly principles seem hard, but as we grow in love and true conversion, everything makes sense and is bearable. You are open to God's word and that is the most valuable thing on earth. I hope these two tidbits will help you.. If you see faults or are "troubled with your husbands actions, pray for him, pour your heart out to God. Try not to correct or criticize but pray for him and ask God to show you scripture. God knows your husbands shortfalls and if he seeks Him, God will guide him, but you need to stay as Godly as possible and know that change of heart takes time. Grow in God and you will grow closer to your husband. Second, take solace in this. As your husband grows closer to God, He will take on the responsibility to " Love you, his wife, as Christ loved the world" willing to sacrifice for you and lay his life down life for you. That is a tougher calling than "submit to your husband" on top of that the word instructs us to submit one to another as unto the Lord... so the man gets a double dose of responsibility. Lastly, remember this. You must love God more than you love your husband and your husband must love God more than he loves you. When you both start to accomplish that you will be three cords that are hard to break :) When you both love God more, your love for each other will grow and grow :)
@@TOBYD7 beautiful, thanks for this
How my wife and I interpret this is that it is my place to make the decision, and therefore I assume all the blame for any problem that occurs; whereas my wife is truly liberated to advise me completely, without the inhibition of making the wrong choice. She is my partner, best friend, and confidant on the hard decisions I must make. She must abide by my decisions, but I must make those decisions with her best interests in mind as well.
No offense, but only if she checks her brain at the door. Yall must have not come upon super hard decisions in life. Are you telling me that if you decide to move to another country and she doesn’t have peace about it, yall move anyway? One partner should not make big decisions without the other being on board.
So if your wife accidentally kills someone then your assuming all the blame for it even if you were not involved?
@@kalindakelly3417 - She doesn't "check her brain at the door," but you certainly have, and we absolutely have come to some extremely difficult decisions in life.
Yes, if I decide to move to another country she would be along with me if that's what the decision is. You seem to be missing the part where I make the decisions with her best interests in mind as well. None of the decisions are solely my input, but they are solely my responsibility for the outcome. My wife shouldn't have any stress or consequence of failure for family decisions, that is my responsibility.
The entire point of the relationship is a discussion to ensure we're both on board, and in the event of a risky move I am the one who assumes the responsibility for the action, my wife does not. You seem to be misinterpreting this on purpose.
I’ve never been happier than when I began submitting to my husband. He honors me, and my wishes, and I have never once felt like I was capitulating to his will without him taking my thoughts & feelings into account.
Simply because you have a good one not many women have that
@@sakuraesther6309 pray the Lord speaks to his heart if you are talking about your husband. Submission turns their hearts, too. You might check out The Way of Agape. It’s a terrific book written by a couple whose marriage became what God wants - a blessed and joyful one - when they followed God’s plan for marriage. ❤️💝💕
@@sakuraesther6309 if a woman doesn't have a good husband. Did your father pick your husband or did you pick your husband.
Because you're following Gods design. And you're being rewarded. I wish God would give us all the grace to just do what we need for each other. It's so simple.
@sakuraesther6309, it's the opposite actually. I see countless good men treated like garbage by their wives, and the women gaslight and blame the men because they can't take responsibility for their behavior and feelings. Most modern women are very feminist in nature. Selfish. Stubborn. Whether they say they're feminist or not, 99% of them behave this way towards the good men they married. And then they wonder why their marriages are in shambles.
Submission done properly should be a blessing & liberating for any Christian wife.
I heard excellent teaching on this when the Minister of the church, said that of course, the man must also be submitting to Jesus Christ.
So the husband submits to God.
The woman submits to her husband as to the Lord Jesus.
The husband isn't being selfish, He is being Christ-like & putting his wife's needs above his own.
The wife isn't being selfish & is putting her husband's needs above her own.
If both are praying & submitting to God, out of love & respect for one another, there should be much less controversy as both are wanting to obey God & be a blessing to one another, as they seek to properly honor their Lord's loving authority !!!
Precisely!
True but to walk this out in a self serving world is hard. Hard but not impossible in the Lord!
@@JennsCorner777 - you said "but"
Except that the text says to submit whether the husband is a believer or not.
@@helmsscotta
Not only that it says to do it even if he is being ungodly even if he is a believer.
Now I believe that there are exceptions since it says do it unto the Lord. Specifically sin, if he wants her to murder someone for him, the answer is no, the same is true of other sins.
Powerful point, we are supposed to do our part unto the Lord without looking over our shoulders at the other person to see if they are doing their part. The hardest part of any relationship is still doing your part even when they aren't doing theirs.
This part really spoke to me too.
Good lesson, I can not wait to hear about husband unto our wives.
Amen so hard 😥
I don't agree with this. Accountability is a real thing that needs to be present. It's not a man or woman thing. It's about acting like accountable Christian adults. And being a doormat for a toxic partner isn't something that should be tolerated.
Pray for my husband's salvation please...
little footprints big dreams I will pray for yours will you please pray for mine as well.
@@marinegirl4860 yes I will!!!
How are things now for both of you?
@@silversilk8438 we are going through a divorce
@@silversilk8438 played out like a comic strip lmao
Wow this has been such a blessing. I am a young woman in college. As I get older, marriage is something that I'm thinking about more often. Submission has always been a difficult topic for me. It used to be one of the reasons I ran away from God and avoided reading the Bible. I've recovered my love for God within the past year and I have tears in my eyes right now from this message. How could I not have seen the beauty in his design? God is great and much wiser than I.
The reason why people don't like this message is because it has the potential to put wives and their children in dangerous situations. Marriage has a dark history. It's all well and good to say a husband should love his wife the way God loves the church, but if you look past the noble ideals, you will see that reality is different from idealism. In reality, God-fearing men have done awful things to their wives. In my country, it was once legal for a man to send his wife to a mental institution so they could lobotomize her. That's just one example. So this ideal of wifely submission could be great in theory - just make sure you get a man who lives up to the ideal. I wish you all the best and hope it works out for you.
@@shadowthehedgehog9190 The reality is, men and women are both sinners, growing, learning and becoming more like Christ as they listen to him and follow His design for their lives. This means, no man will fully live up to the ideal of a perfect husband because we are imperfect people. God doesn't tell us to submit when our husband's live up to the ideal, but to submit out of a love for and submission to God (this is why I whole heartedly agree, as a Christian woman, it's wise to tie your life to a man who is living out his faith, seems to have a strong relationship with God, because he will be growing more and more in Godly character with time). The besutiful thing is, God is the ideal, you can always trust His leadership and His design because He is perfect and He has eternity secured, so even when we don't understand why, we can trust what He calls us to. My understanding is in cases where the man is "leading you to sin/immorality" you submit 1st to God, and should not follow the husband's lead in this issue. Also in cases of abuse you protect the household, so you may need to separate etc to protect yourself/family. This is my current understanding, but I would always compare to scripture as ultimately, God knows best.
This scripture and sermon is super convicting for me, as I believe I at times have been the "contentious wife" in my complaints or frustrations. This has been on my mind a lot recently and God is making it clear to me that I have not had a gentle and quiet spirit, dissolving conflict and speaking kindly to my husband always. This is one area of submission I needed a reminder of today❤
@@baleslydia2009
Do you realize what you wrote near the beginning of the passage. You wrote that no husband will fully live up to being a perfect husband.
Well then why in the bump, are you mrn here slamming and scolding and criticizing wives about living up to the lofty expectations we place on wives.
We treat wives so bad because we run around saying they are rebellious and feminist. But then you defend husbands saying they can't live up full to their expectations..
This is not right or fair. Too many lies and twisting scripture and men's falsehoods and imbalance
@@framboise595well, well, you don't have to be feminine wife, the Bible only says submissive. Not feminine.
I certainly am not feminine wife but I am submissive.
My husband and I LOVE your lessons. Could you please do one on raising children biblically?
J R would love to hear this
Also the other way round about honouring parents not only when you’re little but what about in adulthood? And if you have in laws? Never heard anyone talk on how to honour your parents once you’re an adult
@@flora20 - honor your parents means to take care of them. Jesus said to the Pharisees that they say it but then vow what is due to their parents to the temple so they can say, I would help but I vowed to the temple negating the law of God with their customs....I'm on my phone, can't look up the reference, but it's in there.
It does not mean obey, that is a pharisaical twist to negate having to do. That's what Jesus meant by, "you must hate your father and mother to follow me". Or when He said, if you say to someone "I'll pray for you" but don't tend to their needs when you have the means, you've done nothing, that's also in there.
I agree
Yes PLEASE
This has been the most challenging thing in my life. I have so many trust issues with my dysfunctional family history that it feels dangerous and terrifying to submit to my husband. But a huge part of me feels relieved knowing that is God's will for me. That changes EVERYTHING ❤ Thank you, Mike!
The very fact that you are terrified tells you something about submitting to another flawed human being. Ignore it at your own peril
@@the8thchurch461 when you are on a bus, you submit to the driver. And the driver is a flaued human. You 304
@@alejandrodelgado5829 No I am a FEMINIST! I do not believe in men. They are mere humans who could leave a woman at a moment's notice and trade her with a younger model or be ill or pass away. So no! I am practical. I do not live in a Disney land fantasy of make believe. Smh
That's not your husbands fault and you have no right to take your issues out on him. You need to pray and seek counseling/therapy and ask God to remove those things from you and give you grace to work in you to heal.
That's honesty. That's good that you are willing to admit that you struggle with it.
Rather a wide that admits they struggle with something and at least try, than a wife that denies that they struggle with it.
Wow I’m excited to hear this. It’s common to hear “submit to your husband” but no one really talks about how to do that.
I never hear it. I hear pastors avoid it. All I hear is "husbands love your wives and lay down your life for her as Christ did for the church"
Monumentally hard. Yes, I am married for 11 years now, to an unsaved husband. I so needed to hear this AGAIN. Thankyou, thankyou. The Lord is my strength. I do every day unto God. He stretches us and enlarges our cup!
I saw my mothers faithfulness in the same role, she submitted and respected my unsaved father. While praying for his salvation unfortunately she never saw it, but I did, at age 86 he was saved, woke up at 4 am daily read his bible, learned to say “God bless you” quoted scripture and would say the Bible says… Died a believer at 94. Be encouraged God is faithful.
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@@NJK-777 Thankyou for your comment! I believe nothing is impossible with God. As long as I am alive , I shall pray for my husband and unsaved children.
Faith does not look at what is today but believes in what God is doing behind the scenes. He gives me new strength daily, great is His faithfulness. I love hearing your testimony about your father.
It is soooo encouraging.THANKYOU.
You chose to marry him
My husband sent me your sermon on being a better husband after a rough night of arguing. So far I have been the spiritual head of our household, a role that is not mine and I don’t want, but I digress. I was so impressed with your sermon on Biblical husbands I sought out this video. I am so thankful I did. Thank you for your accurate Biblical representation of both separate callings ❤ I will be listening to more of your sermons!
I think it's still important to let your points be made to your husband and not let him have the final authority if* you truely believe he is doing something wrong or being abusive
You are the head of your children's spiritual life though.
Why have you been asserting a role you don't want?
@Ksiezniczkajesttutaj, a man can be doing everything right for the woman, but if she doesn't "feel" he's doing everything right then she decides she's justified in being unsubmissive.
@@JBFJBFJBF I think this sermon teaches that a wife can and may let her points to be made to her husband AND be submissive to her husband. Submission does not mean not allowed to have an opinion.
I’ve had a really hard time with this as a young married woman (got married at 20, now 22) but I think what I’m realizing is that either we haven’t gotten to a point where we disagree enough for me to “submit” (we are usually on the same page about everything), or that I already “submit” but it makes my heart happy because I love and trust my husband.
You are an abusive man's wet dream.
I don’t think submission needs to be about conflict. Sub-mission is being under someone in a mission. And the mission is the Great Co-mission. It’s simply being a helpmeet to our husbands as we serve God’s kingdom. No conflict needed.
Submission is much easier to do, When the husband is a Godly man, doing what he is supposed to do. Then, of course, when mistakes are made, apologies are needed and communication to resolve the issues. As you have said before, Love is not just a feeling, it is a work in progress. A choice that is made and a commitment to Adapt, Adjust and Overcome. Pray together, succeed together.
@@framboise595 Wrong again. Women submit to Godly husbands only. If the husband is following non-Godly acts or Satan himself, he should be rebuked and divorced in every way.
If he is not saved or just not godly, God says he will be won over by your kind conversation and quiet quiet spirit. 1 Pet: 1,2
Read the book “Created to be his helpmeet” by Debi Pearl. I was a Christian Women’s Libber but pro-life. Oh my goodness after reading that book, it changed my life, my back slidden husband and my marriage.
@@karentreadwell9027 Oh if that was only true in all cases. Sadly, it is not. Each person is still responsible to make their own decisions and sometimes they just don't want to be Godly enough. God knows the truth of what happens.
There is something in what you say, and yes, you and I can never know the full truth of what happens in other people's marriages, and really it comes back to what Mike said, the bottom line is that submission to a husband is only easier to do when the wife firstly has an attitude of submission to God. A man can be Godly and encounter defiance, especially if he is married to an ungodly woman, even if he endeavours to love his wife as God commanded, despite his loving, prayerful and faithful lifestyle, he also may still suffer hurt and terminal loss - but God will reward the wife or husband who obeys Him, whether in this life or in eternity as well, of that I'm convinced. For instance, given that there may be grievances of a delicate nature that a Godly marriage partner may not in all honour and integrity disclose to a third party (even if their spouse plays fast and loose with information), I believe Revelation 2 v.17 shows the reward for overcomers (including honouring the sacred nature of marriage) is by nature reflective of intimacy with God, who alone knows what that saint has attained to, and His reward is a sign of His everlasting pleasure and approval of them.
Submission based on conditions is not submission at all.
I know you don’t agree much with Catholicism, I’m Catholic. But I love listening to your lessons, they are so good. Tbh keep studying and teaching, you’re amazing at it.
He teaches w/ humilty and respect.
Hi Ragin. I am concerned about Catholic theology. According to your faith, what must I do to be saved?
Ragin Cajun I’m from Louisiana myself. Moved up to NW Louisiana tears ago. South of Alexandria tends to be heavy Roman Catholic. I married a Cajun lady and actually moved from Episcopal to Roman Catholic Church for about 10years. Being raised in a ritualistic Christian Church, I didn’t see much difference in the Services at all. It wasn’t until I started studying to convert to Roman Catholicism that the red flags started showing up. The more I learned, the more I felt like I was sinning against God and belittling Jesus and his Sacrifice. God pulled us out and we currently attend a Baptist Church. It was initial shock for a Catholic school girl, but my wife has grown closer to God. An in depth study will show that Rome quit being the Church that Christ built around 700-1,000 AD.
@@joebidensdiaper8526 Hi Ragin'. Out of concern for other people, I like to try to make sure those around me are going to heaven.
Remember that Biblical faith is a personal relationship with God. It is accompanied by an overwhelming desire to read the Bible and follow what is written in it. On a personal note, I met Jesus Christ on the lawn of a church one night. If you do not have that already, ask and you shall receive!
Hello Ragin, I'm glad that you understand that there are disagreements regarding Catholicism and doctrines and not against individual Catholics. Born Again believers do not condemn people, our goal is to share the truth in God's Word and use the bible as our "doctrine". I was raised Catholic and than became "Christian" after a very dangerous and sin filled life. My faith and or conversion was not solid because I did not read and follow the bible enough. I say this because I had doubts and questions and did not seek God's truth enough. I "Backslid" for many many years but always knew God was real and that I was in sin. I came back to seek the Lord about 4 years ago. I "accepted Christ" again and went to my old Pentecostal church but again, had some doubts and or concerns about a few practices.. My wife and I prayed and studied the Word of God hard . We found bible based churches and rededicated our life to Christ and than moved to a distant County as we continued to seek God. By then, we were more grounded in the Word. We didn't smoke, drink, steal etc. etc. and were faithful to our local church. We thought we were good Christians, but unfortunately real tests of faith and Christianity came our way. This is normal when people decide to seek the truth and be "Christian". The devil will do anything to destroy believers. It wasn't until God truly showed me I was a wretched, angry and impatient sinner that I came to true repentance. I was justifying my pride and aggression towards my wife. I am ashamed to say that it led to domestic violence. I was already crying out to God to help me. I cried, how can I be mean and violent and be a Christian? Well,,,, the damage was done. Even though I stopped the violence, my wife filed for divorce. It was after that separation that I truly realized how bad my sin was and I came to true repentance. I heard many sermons about " why bad things happen" and "true brokenness" and "strongholds, sin and forgiveness", "Hardened hearts" Grieving the Holy Spirit and many others. The point is.. I sought God and his truth. The Lord broke me, I came to true repentance and surrender to God's will and now I am truly Born Again. I know because my soul cries Abba Father. I know because my soul cannot ignore sin. The smallest mistakes or faults sadden me and convict my soul deeply to repentance and all I want to do is please the Lord. It is not by anything I did, but it is by truly believing the Lord for his mercy, grace and salvation. I am a new creature in Christ.. yes outward sin such as violence, crime, etc. has left but the important thing is that Love in my heart has replaced all of that. Seek God with all your heart, mind, soul and strength and He will abide in you, and you will abide in Him. And remember, not everything is immediately wonderful and perfect after becoming a true Christian. Sometimes we have to struggle through the consequences of our mistakes and sins but eventually, when we truly find God.. All things will work out for the better for those that Love God.
Thank God for this. My small group is about to approach these verses in our read through of 1 Peter and I had no clue where to broach the topic. I looked it up and I knew Mike would have some wise words
I don’t think most wives as believers have problem with submission but are more concern with the issue where husbands weaponize these verses to spiritual , verbal or physical abuse their wives.
So get a divorce. A who man is not following Christs example, only using him to do what he wants, by taking the lords name in vain everytime he invokes passages to justify what he wants. He's being blasphemous and there's no reason to stay with a man like that.
@@JeannettieP Yeah I agree but I meant that if he does it repeatedly and often as excuse sinful behavior or justify it. You know the kinda people to cherry pick verses and ignoring the context of the passages the verses were in. Not some one who does it a couple times or on occasion.
Women do have a problem with submission, like for example, they project on their hoosbands to portray them as the problem while making themselves look holy, just like you did.
@@JeannettieP It's a sin if you talk about your man to other people at his back, while portraying yourself as holy or as if you didn't like zeggs... because you do love zeggs.
@@aramisy.cajigas744 weird.
I really did enjoy this teaching.
In my heart I have very deep feelings for a man who is not capable of leading a household. He has rejected me and 8ve been looking for comfort.
I just found you and, I thank the Lord for finding you. I believe the Holy Spirit allowed me to not just see your site but I open it and I was blessed. Your expounded on the word has given me strength to become ( I haven’t been submitting as I which means not submitting unto the Lord). Thank you for allowing tube Holy Spirit to give understanding as how to share the written word with not expressing harshness towards the in submitting wives. Be continually blessed.
It’s unreal how upset people get about this subject because they don’t understand that the equivalent job of the man is to love you wife _as Christ loves the church and gave himself for it._
Christ is not a tyrant, so how could the man in this formula ever be justified in acting like a tyrant? How can a man who prefers his wife above himself _subjugate_ her.
Both spouses have to fulfill their scriptural roles of preferring one another above themselves in the way that the scripture describes. That’s real love, and a righteous unity.
You very rarely hear a pastor preach on 1 Cor 7. HAHAHA!
@@framboise595 I agree it's not funny. But after a lifetime ya give up and see the funny side of human beings.
Hence I laugh wholeheartedly, hehe, the shepherds of the flock hehe....humour is a good cleanser
@@framboise595 And it is true by the way. The church is thoroughly feminist, and the leaders would not dare irk their wives, nor their converts by the by. Truth loses out to human emotion...
There was a great poet once, summed it up perfectly: quoth: "Who run the world? Girls. Who run the world? Girls"
Beyoncé Knowles Z
That’s because the roles have been abused
@@jborrego2406 well said
Thank you, Mike. I find your teachings very valuable! I listened this series having my son and daughter-in-law in mind, both of whom are not believers. Though I hope to find a way to share with them when the opportunity arises, I discovered in listening to the teaching for the wife that I could apply that to myself even as a divorced woman by submitting to Jesus. So often I find myself trying to look around that plank in my own eye! Again, thanks!
The important thing for your unsaved son and daughter-in-law is that they are saved. Forget about this teaching on submission. It's not for them at this stage.
As a woman who has been in an unequally yoked marriage for a long time, Abigail's story has always been very near and dear to my heart. ❤️
Isaiah 51
11 Therefore the redeemed of the Lord shall return, and come with singing unto Zion; and everlasting joy shall be upon their head: they shall obtain gladness and joy; and sorrow and mourning shall flee away.
12 I, even I, am he that comforteth you: who art thou, that thou shouldest be afraid of a man that shall die, and of the son of man which shall be made as grass;
13 And forgettest the Lord thy maker, that hath stretched forth the heavens, and laid the foundations of the earth; and hast feared continually every day because of the fury of the oppressor, as if he were ready to destroy? and where is the fury of the oppressor
22 Thus saith thy Lord the Lord, and thy God that pleadeth the cause of his people,
Behold, I have taken out of thine hand the cup of trembling, even the dregs of the cup of my fury; thou shalt no more drink it again:
23 But I will put it into the hand of them that afflict thee;
which have said to thy soul, Bow down, that we may go over: and thou hast laid thy body as the ground, and as the street, to them that went over
Hang in there!
Ill pray for your marriage.
I know this must be tough. Please hang in there.
One of my favorites. God always has a plan. He set Abigail up with a Godly man who would treat her well, King David. He took that evil Nabal out. God knows what He is doing.
ON POINT! May God continue to bless the fruit of your work for Him and His glory! Amen!
Thank you for everything you do!! May God guide you always.
Thank you Pastor Winger, watched this video alone, then with my fiancé. We both REALLY enjoyed the biblical exhortation and application 😀 Going to be married in December.
God bless you and family and congregation. 🙏
Appreciate the respect and submission to Biblical principals throughout your videos.
Loved this! Well explained .
I was brought up at church and have tried to find my connection to it as an adult a number of times but failed (because of one thing pr another). I don't consider myself unquestionably religious any longer and often even not religious at all. However, I found much solace and connectedness in what you spoke about in this video. Thank you 🙏🏻
Don't be fooled by your feelings of solace and connectedness. I'm sorry, I don't mean to be offensive, but if you are not connected to *Jesus Christ* through repentance, and trust in Him for salvation, then good feelings will lead you astray.
Jesus said that no one can come to God *except through Him.*
You don't have to feel religious, but you do need to turn to Christ to be saved. It's the most important decision you will ever make, as it affects your eternal destiny.
I have recently found your bible studies. I have really enjoyed watching
Had to pause this for conviction sake. What a wonder and amassing God we serve.
This was a GREAT teaching. Thanks, Mike. I love watching your videos, cuz you are so down to earth, humble AND wise beyond your year. Bless you, for the work you do.
I love your profile picture! ♥️
Such excellent Bible teaching! His humble spirit makes it easy for a tough message for some to be received.
Thank you for posting.❤️
It's easy to see Christ in Mike. It's not really Mike, it's Jesus pouring through him because he seems to genuinely submit to and love the Lord.
Excellent breakdown on the subject of submission... thank you for including Abigail's story... such a vital piece...
My husband is definitely my head. I love your teachings. Thank you for covering this topic!
Love your studies/teachings!
“Me changing diapers of my mom” 😂😂😂😂 listening to this as I’m about to change my mom’s diaper. Haha haha! Thank you for this sermon. I needed to hear this during this season in my marriage. The selfie, diaper change part was a plus 👍👍👍
I find my marriage going through this cyclical pattern where I am resistant to my husband's authority and our marriage suffers so badly. Then I realize my sin and repent and try my hardest to treat my husband as my leader. We do well for several months before I backslide into old patterns. It makes me sad to think that my husband feels like a child in his own home. 😖
I too, like another commenter, grew up in a rocky, chaotic household and have trust issues. Vulnerability doesn't come natural to me. I have defense mechanisms that kick in when things get deep and I want to run.
It's crazy that my marriage mirrors my relationship with God. When we are not doing so well, I'm usually in a spiritual low, not trusting God and rebelling against Him.
I know the key is to remain in strong relationship with God because His word is the perfect defense against the enemy working his way into my life, destroying my marriage, and robbing my joy.
Thank you Pastor Mike for this message. I'm going to refer to it often as a reminder of God's perfect order.
Thank you for your incredible reply. I found Pastor Mike Winger and it’s a miracle because eight years ago a friend gave me this book called “Created to be a helpmeet”
It revolutionized my marriage because I was a control freak, and the poor man was just browbeaten by me and here he was a supervisor in the defense department these marriage conference men like Jimmy Evans has it all Ron they are afraid of women and they are Wolk in their teaching and Mike Winger needs to talk to Jimmy Evans, and all the other pastors that are afraid to offend women. You know they buy 80% of marriage books and so that’s why marriage books don’t want to offend them and tell them the truth about submission. God bless you.
Crazy how everyone is the same in the end
At least you see this in yourself. My wife grew up in a very stable, good household and for the life of me she cannot listen to anything I say at all. She dominates the relationship in every way and even if I gently tell her the destruction she's causing, I am blamed for it all.
This is so beautiful to listen to. I am happy to submit to my husband, he is a wonderful leader and provider.
Does this mean he only has to love you if you're a wonderful lover and helper to him?
Ah, how amazing is that? 🌟 Thank you so much 💖
May God bless you and your family all the days of your life for teaching us The Truth! This is yes extremely difficult to do especially when your marriage is on the verge on divorced, however I thank God so much for this teaching today, I’ve read this passage many of times but never took it to seriously I would always allow my heart to get in the way and that’s because I was trying to be submissive to my husband on my own and not with Gods Strength but this time God made it very clear to me no matter how my husband feels or what he does it absolutely has nothing to do with my obedience to God, this time I’m not going to do this on my own understanding but The Lords🙌🏼 I know this was no coincidence for me to hear this and if God said to do this He’s The Only One we can truly trust that in the end no matter what happens it will be in Gods Will and Gods Will is always Good!🙌🏼 I pray for Gods strength upon all of us wives to submit to our husbands the way God told us to do, Father you know each one of our situations and only You can guide us through this I pray for Guidance, Strength, Love, Patience, Wisdom, Knowledge and everything we need spiritually to be able to be submissive to our husbands, We Praise Your Holy Name There is none not one like YOU!🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼 We ask these things in The Name of Jesus Christ Amen 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
He's so right when he mentions how men so often impose God's instruction to wives, but conveniently neglect His marital instructions to men. I can only imagine how difficult it is for my wife to submit when I'm being a total jerk, but I'm sure it's equally difficult to be Christ (as I am commanded) to my wife while seeing her every flaw. Thank you Lord for Your ever-present grace! Right now I'm going through this series as part of my daily morning time with God. Looking forward to tomorrow when I watch Mike's vid on my responsibilities to my wife.
@@framboise595 Non-sequitur. The only one I called a "jerk" was myself.
@@framboise595 Ah. Don't take him too seriously when he makes remarks like that and remember that he's including himself :-)
Thank you for saying this! I notice that the woman’s traditional roles/duties/standards are focused on (however good of Godly) but for some reason people barely mention the men’s side of that. Even on the video he made about husbands, he mentioned that he felt himself asking how he’s supposed to be a man (or more like a husband), if he doesn’t really have a sense of what should be expected of him. This is also part of the reason a lot of women wince at this passage (even if they are Christian, because although they have no problems with what God says and know the deeper meaning and greater design, a lot of guys kind of weaponize it)
I literally see the opposite. Countless Christian women are feminists imposing their wills onto the men while holding men to impossible standards and ignoring scripture
@kevinschaefer3945, hes projecting
Genesis 3:16 spoke to me and I’m sure other women that struggle with disorder of their relationships and submission to God first, then the husband. 6 years old and this sermon echos relevancy. I’m 26 years old and I’m in my first year of marriage. I’ve struggled in all my relationships with a strong desire to satisfy my other half, and in a nutshell being very dependent and needy because he becomes my source. The disorder of my relationships and priorities with Christ and my husband has caused us issues and it’s a blessing to have my eyes re-opened and be reminded of the right and working order.
Thank you, Mike
This helps me to think biblically about marriage in the area of submission
Loved it. The word Lord is still the same Lord. When Sarah's example was quoted by Paul, perhaps the first century church were also far from living as Sarah & Abraham so they needed to hear?
Yes I agree. The word Lord is still the same. Or maybe we could change it to yes sir. Either way it is a title of respect.
Once someone approached my husband because they were watching me interact with my two young kids. He said he was mesmerized because it was so beautiful to see a mom caring for her children. One of the best compliments I've ever received.
8:25 thank you for the clarification about all other men. I am a recovering JW. Jehovah's Witnesses believe women must submit to all men. During their meetings for Field Service (meeting they have before they go door to door preaching) if there are 12 women there who have been believers (baptized) for 30+ years and then there is one 12 year old boy who have been baptized for 2 weeks, he is the one who will conduct the meeting and say the prayer. So this is a very interesting topic to me now that I am leaving that cult and it's very dangerous false teachings.
@@framboise595 As absurd as it is, that is what they teach. I was baptized for 30 years and was an active pioneer (at the time I pioneered it was 90 hours a month of preaching, now it is 70) so yes I absolutely sure that is what they teach. You make an excellent point with the two masters! Never thought of it like that. All women in that cult have to submit to all baptized males. If you do not they say your lack humility and are proud all bad things that is then tied to Satan. You either learn your place or you will be counseled.
They seem cultish to me, unfortunately. Things should still be logical.
My mom is JW, and I was and attended as a kid, but now I’m a Christian! So glad you are here now! Keep studying! I will be praying for your journey!
@@deborahd2936 Thank you so much. It is toughing to see true love in the Christian congregation. I can use all the prayers, I felt like the Holy Spirit help to wake me up and lead me out but now I feel as though the spirit has abandoned me. I feel like I did something wrong but I know the majority JW teachings are wrong so I know it is not going back but I am lost on what next steps to take. Thank you.
@@rosiej.1473 I sure will pray specifically about those things. My thoughts, if its not too bold, is to keep reading and listening to guys like this, and see if there is a doctrinally sound church to go to.
But before all of that, know that the Lord is with you and He hasn’t left! He loves you so deeply. Just keep pressing in to finding His truth, which as you’ve learned, is not always what people label as “truth”. Do you have Christian friends to talk with about these things?
At 21:10 I had one of those huge eureka moments that I know will massively help me when I go on to marry. Thank you Mike!
I am so RELIEVED to hear this story of Abigail!! I had never heard that before, or if I had it didn't click and I completely forgot it. God bless Abigail and God bless me to submit to and serve my husband. He is worthy of that submission, he's a godly man.
So if a man has to be worthy of submission, then logically that means you as a woman need to be worthy of love and feeling understood right? Look in the mirror
I just laughed out loud - when you said "in case you think it's a typo" your humor makes these teachings so much easier to hear.
Excellent! This is a must watch for all Christian wives! This is also good for women who are not yet married, so they know what to expect.
Cinnamon Bergeron if your religion tells you to summit to your husbands, why some Christians bash muslim women when their religion say same thing? No offense but I was wondering
@@BIYorganization - because that death cult will rape a woman and then stone her to death for having been raped??
There is no comparison. Jesus is my head, my leader. I am my wife's head, her leader. So I am responsible for her well-being! My you would have me study under various imams who teach HOW to beat the wife??
@@Charles.Wright So you think your religion is better than Islam? What a joke. Remember, Islam comes from Christianity.
@@the8thchurch461 Nope
@@BIYorganization what are the submission rules in islam? Is it true that husband can rape and beat their wives?
I, as a female teen who struggled with these passages, came at peace not just with struggling with the verse but inner-peace. Thank you!
Just remember to not tolerate any abuse bro!
@@JBFJBFJBF The Bible calls females jewels, I would never accept that. Thank you though!
All women's truffle with it. Even if the man is a good man. I see countless good men treated like garbage by wives who have been given everything.
I'm glad submission does not mean trust. I'm with a husband that is emotionally abusive, actually separated right now. I was listening to this to see if there is anything I have done wrong in the marriage. I am very depressed by this. It seems cruel to me that God would ask wives to submit to ungodly men(1 Peter 3). He can curse God in front of me, but I'm to submit. He can walk away from me and say F---k that, but I have to submit. He can dismiss my severe health needs, but I have to submit. All to show the world what? How does this glorify God? Something is not right here. Mike I think some practical examples would help like it means this but not this... If the husband is the leader then perhaps submission is when he is leading godly, otherwise what is there to submit to?
Check out the "life saving divorce."
So I feel like this husband/wife series should have about a billion more views...thanks Mike!
As a woman, the idea of submitting to a husband horrifies me not because I don't want to do the will of God, but because of how many men throughout history have used this verse to imply that their wives are inferior and shouldn't be involved in making decisions. If/When I choose a husband in the future, I would rather have a husband who considers me his equal in decision-making than an inferior like so many traditionally Christian men seem to believe. I was a child/teenager once, I hated not having my opinions listened to and the constant condescension, and marrying a strictly complementarian Christian man would likely be a similar experience. I would rather be sad and single for my entire life to preserve my personal autonomy and freedom than have a man who thinks a marriage is a leader-subordinate relationship and treat me like an adult child.
I understand the inner struggle you are facing. You aren't saying you want to disobey the Bible's teachings but rather that you are afraid a future husband won't live out the Bible accurately, thus resulting in you feeling inferior, not of equal value to your husband, and making submission almost impossible. This is why it is so important to choose the correct man for your marriage; you are commanded to submit to your husband in marriage, but marrying a godly man that lives selflessly in his leadership is much easier to submit to than a man that is misguided and uses his God-given authority to tower over you (which is a sin on the man's part).
Even still, I encourage you to understand that God's commands are NOT conditional on others actions. This is the entirety of what marriage is about; you doing your part regardless of what your spouse is doing or not doing. If God's commands were conditional then nothing would ever get done in a marriage: "I'm not going to show my wife love because she has been disrespecting me all day!!" "Well I'm not going to submit to my husband because he is not acting like a leader and making horrible decisions." On and on the cycle goes, and we end up with a 50% divorce rate. God's commands are directed right at the individual, with no qualifiers. Husbands are commanded to LOVE their wives ALWAYS, not only when their wife is acting right or when she is looking extra attractive. In the same way wives are commanded to SUBMIT to their husbands ALWAYS, not only when he is doing his part of being kind, loving, understanding, thoughtful, and Biblical in every action he is doing throughout the day.
One line that really worries me is when you said "I would rather be sad and single for my entire life to preserve my personal autonomy and freedom than have a man who thinks a marriage is a leader-subordinate relationship and treat me like an adult child." You are not commanded to be married so to each their own, yet one thing you are missing here is that marriage is ABSOLUTELY a leader-subordinate relationship in the same exact way our relationship with Jesus is a leader-subordinate relationship; you were correct in saying you do not want a marriage to be an adult-child relationship as that is absolutely not the way God has designed marriage. Allow me to point you to Ephesians 5 where is states that "wives are to submit to their own husbands as onto the Lord." Our submission to the Lord is the same leader-subordinate relationship the wife must enact towards the husband; there is no getting around God's Word on the matter as it is crystal clear. The wife is not the leader or even the co-leader in the household; she is the helper, the aid, the support system, the homemaker, the comforter, the encourager, the advisor, etc. The husband is the sole leader and it is his job (and a very wise thing to do) to look to his wife for counsel, advice, and perspective when making ANY decision; a husband that does not value and lovingly seek out his wife's opinions and perspectives is a fool and not a good leader (even though he IS the leader in the household according to the Bible). There is not one verse that states that wives must assume authority or control and any attempt to take ahold of the reins as a wife is sinful. The way God has established leadership in the household cannot be overturned because of spousal complaints. God's Word remains despite our shortcomings.
I implore you to pray about this and seek out an older woman in the church and seek her perspective as the older women are called to teach the younger women these principles. Submission is a beautiful and liberating thing for a Christian wife, not a disgusting devaluing action. Even still, I encourage you to understand that the struggle of a wife is to resist the Word of God as it is counter to sinful nature so it is normal to feel a repulsiveness to this command. God knows marriage better than you so following what God says is ALWAYS the best thing to do.
I understand completely what you said about this. You can marry a Christian man as long as you really know the kind of person he is and take the time to find out what he believes about this. Be open and actually be honest about what marriage would be like when decisions come up. Be very careful about what you agree too and what you can live up to. There are denominations that don’t make this like it’s one of the Ten Commandments. God bless you
I agree with you. I can’t risk being in a subordinate position again with a man. I have also learned that freedom and autonomy are better than what my ex called “love.”
Why would you waste your life signing a death vow to a guy you claim to love only to spend your entire marriage not believing he wants what's best for you, and therefore you emasculate him and rebel against him like a child?
I’m thankful for a husband who doesn’t try to subjugate me and order me about. No human flourishes under being commanded how to do things day in and day out. Marriage is a partnership. Both make decisions together after discussion. Why would a husband move on a major decision when his wife doesn’t have peace about the matter? That’s a foolish way to do things. Carefully consider your husband before marrying. There is someone out there for you.
Really appreciate all your teaching Mike! I so wish there was a solid preacher in my area, that would teach similarly. I'm in a very liberal city that would never stand for these types of biblical teachings.
Thank God for RUclips.
I spent 15 years with my husband and am truly lucky to have escaped with my life. He follows Rome and looks down on all non-Catholics, including me. All I ever did was submit to him, but he never understood what love is, what it is to place anyone before yourself. He has even made multiple attempts on my life since our divorce. He will never stop wanting me dead, and I constantly live in fear for my life. We have two children, so it makes everything more complicated. I am at peace with God and Christ, and pray for his salvation and my own survival.
@@lepidoptera9337 Thank you for your kind words.
Clearly not every husband should be submitted to. Sorry this happened to you.
He certainly isn't following Catholic teaching.
Your the only message making sense I saw this evening here. Jesus asks us ALL to submit, as he did, as this is the core of servant hood. We are called. I was so upset of seeing some people comments but then I was reminded where Jesus states people get offended easily these days (I agree regarding what you said about abuse...)But we are all equal in Christ Jesus. Races, genders, religions etc... We are not separated into division but all one in Christ Jesus. Then I saw your message. Thank you.
At first, when I saw that the description included 1 Peter 3:1-6 without including 7, I wondered where this would go. But, after you mentioned God told the wives how they're supposed to act as opposed to telling the husbands how their wives are supposed to act, I was like, "Okay, you're pointing out how God is directly giving them their roles as opposed to the husband being expected to train submission into his wife. They have both been set aside to address what their roles are supposed to be individually within the marriage."
Awesome talk. Truly good. Thank you so much. 🙏
It is so sad that people who teach on this subject have to sugarcoat and be anxiously careful with not saying any “harsh” words because we women have become so proud and arrogant that we will get offended very easily if they don’t adorn this message of submission.
i think it also happens bc we men have abused our authority in personal and public leadership so much that the idea of submission makes many women uncomfortable.
@@Lil08103 you're what's called a cis cuck, and God forgive any woman who disgraces herself with your presence. You literally did precisely what this brave lady was complaining about...🤔
@@Lil08103 That's a personal problem, not a general one. *Some* men have abused their positions in such a way. But a woman is not marrying those men. *Some* women have also abused their positions of power, but I'm not holding other women accountable for their failings. I'm not marrying those women. I wouldn't even give them a second glance. We see this problem time and time again. Stop identifying everyone by their group status and start treating them as individuals. Claiming that women have a hard time submitting because *some* men have abused their power is a cop out. It's just a way to avoid the accountability for the fact that most women these days are trying to be masculine, aggressive, and unbiblical. Like I said before: it's a personal problem.
@@NovusIgnis it’s not a personal problem. Society at large has been lead by MEN. And most people who have abused their power have been men. You are a dishonest liar when you try to compare the two. The ratio of powerful women to men is like 1:1000.
You are a filthy liar when you try to diminish the amount of men who’ve abused their power by saying “Some”. It’s not some, it’s a lot. Because every woman knows a woman who has suffered under a sinful man. What did you expect now that women are rebelling?
People can only live in submission to terrible people before they’ve had enough. Feminism is the result of men not exercising their power according to Gods will. They abused it. So now they will pay.
@@caramelgumdrop393 Except it is a personal problem. Society has always been led by these "men". Satan wants the people in charge to follow him, not God. It's no wonder that he would manipulate things to get his desired outcome. Even when Jesus walked the earth, He was still under the laws of evil "men". He still followed God and didn't forsake what was good just to fit into the world's design. Your job is to make sure that your partner is a follower of God, not a follower of sin. That's what you can control. If you choose poorly, that's on you and nobody else. You're far too concerned with the world at large when you don't even have the world around you figured out.
You are an absolute blessing to Christians everywhere. I am so grateful that God created you.
Submit unto the lord toward your spouse & if not your rebellion against God. Wow I pray the forgives me for this! I pray that I learn how to do better!
You are a talented speaker! I like your speaking style very much!
Thank you, Mike, for all your insightful teachings - May the LORD continue to guide and bless you and your family! (Numbers 6:24-26) Also, another Hebrew translation of "wives be submitted to your own husband" is "wives be tenderly devoted to your own husbands" ...a woman's heart understands the depth of what God is talking about. Shalom!
My take on this topic is as follows. Marriage is a "type" of the marriage of the Bride (church) and The Bridegroom (Jesus). The Bride must submit fully to the Bridegroom and in turn He loves her intensely. Paul says "This is a profound mystery - but I am talking about Christ and the church." (Ephesians 5:32). It's the same with the ancient hebrew marriage ritual being a "type" of the rapture. Check it out. The Bible is riddled with these patterns. The Author is Awesome! God bless you all!
that's exactly right! and it's most glorifying to God.
One important distinction, you have the woman submitting and then the man responding. It’s the other way around: His constantly creating love actions for her, should cause her to respond with submission. A husband who is not constantly active, creative, inventive, in love ( not feelings, ---sacrificial actions), he will reap bitterness and rebellion.
@@rampartranger7749 I believe it goes both ways at once. A man can be a loving leader and create an wonderful environment for his family to flourish in and get nothing in return and a woman can be submissive but get nothing in return.
The wife has her commands to follow and obey but the husband can't force it. Same the wife can't force the husband.
The Holy Spirit will never lead people to try to force or control others.
That doesn't excuse another person but it allows free choice which is given to every person.
See Corinthians 13 and Galatians 5
Never demanding, forcing your way, controlling. But fully and completely giving of yourself and taking care of just as you take care of your own self.
For no one ever yet hated their own body.
So just as people care for themselves and nourish themselves,
They want understanding and love, they want mercy and compassion, they want forgiveness, comfort, long suffering, encouragement, gentleness and humility, they want food, shelter clothing, respect and honour. So just as they want these things, they must give them.
They must also allow the wife to make choices to obey the scripture of their own free will and not to control.
They must lead with humility, honour, example and leading the way in godliness and let their wife be led and taught by the Holy Spirit through the Word and example if she is a Christian. Never by force or control.
As that is not of God it is opposite of what God says.
Leading with love and example Just as Jesus does.
But that doesn't make them Jesus/God.
The husband is responsible before God for obeying the Word and the wife is also responsible before God for obeying the Word.
Neither one can force the other but are responsible to make sure that their own life is in submission and obedience to God.
The kindness and love has the most chance anyway.
Ephesians 5
28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.
29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and Cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church.
Ephesians 5:25-27
King James Version
25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
Jesus love leads Him to serve despite being Master and having all authority.
Luke 22:27
25 And he said unto them, The kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and they that exercise authority upon them are called benefactors.
26 But ye shall Not be so:
but he that is greatest among you, let him be as the younger; and he that is chief, as he that doth serve
For whether is greater, he that sitteth at meat, or he that serveth? is not he that sitteth at meat? but I am among you as he that serveth
1 Peter 3:7
Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife,
as unto the weaker vessel,
and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered
Galatians 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus
The husband has more responsibility to love and be an example
Than the wife does. Yet that does not mean the wife is not responsible for herself and her choices. She will stand before the judgement seat as will the husband and answer for herself.
The woman is commanded to submit to her husband but he can't force her to. She is also commanded to love him.
Corinthians 13 and Galations 5
@@framboise595 Yes it does Ephesians 5:21. Everyone is meant to. However, that doesn't put the wife above the husband, he's still the head in the scripture. This has nothing to do with feminism.
Well done ... May Yah bless you for this lesson
I'm glad that everyone understands that there are disagreements regarding Catholicism and doctrines and not against individual Catholics. Born Again believers do not condemn people, our goal is to share the truth in God's Word and use the bible as our "doctrine". I was raised Catholic and than became "Christian" after a very dangerous and sin filled life. My faith and or conversion was not solid because I did not read and follow the bible enough. I say this because I had doubts and questions and did not seek God's truth enough. I "Backslid" for many many years but always knew God was real and that I was in sin. I came back to seek the Lord about 4 years ago. I "accepted Christ" again and went to my old Pentecostal church but again, had some doubts and or concerns about a few practices.. My wife and I prayed and studied the Word of God hard . We found bible based churches and rededicated our life to Christ and than moved to a distant County as we continued to seek God. By then, we were more grounded in the Word. We didn't smoke, drink, steal etc. etc. and were faithful to our local church. We thought we were good Christians, but unfortunately real tests of faith and Christianity came our way. This is normal when people decide to seek the truth and be "Christian". The devil will do anything to destroy believers. It wasn't until God truly showed me I was a wretched, angry and impatient sinner that I came to true repentance. I was justifying my pride and aggression towards my wife. I am ashamed to say that it led to domestic violence. I was already crying out to God to help me. I cried, how can I be mean and violent and be a Christian? Well,,,, the damage was done. Even though I stopped the violence, my wife filed for divorce. It was after that separation that I truly realized how bad my sin was and I came to true repentance. I heard many sermons about " why bad things happen" and "true brokenness" and "strongholds, sin and forgiveness", "Hardened hearts" Grieving the Holy Spirit and many others. The point is.. I sought God and his truth. The Lord broke me, I came to true repentance and surrender to God's will and now I am truly Born Again. I know because my soul cries Abba Father. I know because my soul cannot ignore sin. The smallest mistakes or faults sadden me and convict my soul deeply to repentance and all I want to do is please the Lord. It is not by anything I did, but it is by truly believing the Lord for his mercy, grace and salvation. I am a new creature in Christ.. yes outward sin such as violence, crime, etc. has left but the important thing is that Love in my heart has replaced all of that. Seek God with all your heart, mind, soul and strength and He will abide in you, and you will abide in Him. And remember, not everything is immediately wonderful and perfect after becoming a true Christian. Sometimes we have to struggle through the consequences of our mistakes and sins but eventually, when we truly find God.. All things will work out for the better for those that Love God.
First of all, Catholics ARE Christians...
You light be surprised yo okie that just as some “Christians” do not think Catholics are Christians, very traditional, pre Vatican II Catholics do not believe non Catholics are Christians. Gid is probably having a good laugh...or a good cry... over such narrow thinking
@@sandygrogg1203 I'm sorry. I thought I was Christian until I found the truth in truly being Born Again with a truly converted heart and soul that realized that my sins were against God.
This may sound odd, but I have no problem being submissive to my husband. God made him the man. Marriage is built off God, love, trust and obedience. I love God and he has given me and my spouse abundant love for each other! I can honestly say from the depth of my heart...I love my husband and he loves me! I thank the Almighty God for sending him in my life! God knew just what I wanted and needed. #foreverinlove! ❤
Toppy Cat thats amazing Praise God!
God bless.
Detective In-Christ God bless you.
Being submissive is a personal trait, some people are natural submissive others are not. Submissive people are not submissive to everyone but only against the person they choose to be submissive too.
It is wrong to expect that every (women) should be submissive to everyone or, at least, against their partner.
Being a submissive person, admit it and find someone to be submissive to is just a way to experience a better life.
There will be a time when it won't be easy or natural and will take faith to do.
+Wounded Ego
I did not understand your post, please elaborate
What a GREAT teaching! So happy to stumble across this ministry.
Right!
Amen
Amen!!! you do your part without looking over your shoulder to see if they are doing their part. Yes.
Simply beautifully put Mike. You are such an encouragement. Thank you .
Sometimes it's not easy to submit to imperfect men, and it's not easy to lead an imperfect woman, that's why a marriage needs God. Without God, no one can fulfill the roles he gives them.
"One of the key of marriage is that you do your part with out looking over your shoulder to see if they are doing their part." I am a guy...I NEEDED this. I just listened to mikes sermon on husbands. I wish he would have said this. I know it but some times I need reminders.
@@framboise595 WOW, you think that? I didn't get that at ALL. I am as conservative as they come but you are a chauvinist if I ever saw one!
Honestly, this is not what the bible teaches. Gods instruction to husbands says: "Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself up for her, so that He might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word, that He might present to Himself the church in all her glory, having no spot or wrinkle or any such thing, but that she would be holy and blameless. (Ephesians 5:25-27)
That verse tells husbands that the primary way that a husband is supposed to love his wife is by washing her in the water of the word to help remove her spots and blemishes.
Another way that a husband is supposed to love his wife as Christ loves the church is expressed in Revelation 3:19 where Jesus says "Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline. Therefore be zealous and repent." One of the ways that Jesus loves his bride the church is by reproving and disciplining her.
Paul goes on to tell us that marriage is designed to be a picture of the relationship between Christ and the church where the husband lays the role of Christ and the wife plays the role of the church. Think about the ramifications of that.
We are ALL instructed to confront other Christians when we see them in sin and a husband confronting his wife on her sin (lack of submission) is no exception.
@@j.p.5716
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A husband is not to confront his wife. She is not a bull. She is his wife. He should go to her lovingly.. Confrontation is hostile. Speak to her with respect. Also if husband is sinning, like molesting daughter, lusting after other females, cheating, looking at porn, then he is not fit to head anyone. He can't even clean up himself. A Christian wife can speak to her husband. She can exhort him too.
@@Irleniar - You are confused by the cancer of Feminism. As Christians, we are all to confront each other when we see another Christian in sin. (Matthew 18:15-20)
Regarding your statement about a bad husband. The apostle Peter covered that in 1 Peter 3:1-2. Submission has nothing to do with the "fitness" of the recipient.
And yes, a wife can speak with her husband, but for a Christian woman to "exhort" the one in authority over her, it has to be done with the greatest respect (Ephesians 5:33b) and should be put in the form of an appeal, not a demand.
@@j.p.5716
You are trying your best to squeeze out something to fit your agenda.
We husbands are not kings or gods. We are only lowly earthly humans. The Bible has commands for husbands too, it's for both genders. We are tired of hearing videos only sbout wives submit. We are also to submit ye to one another. We men are so busy scolding wives thst we forget that we have to obey God.
Husbands are to lay down our lives for our wives. We need to be good husbands and follow Christ. We are not good husbands if we are sinning.
This is very helpful, I really like the lesson for men as well.
Awesome WORD🙏🌹
The church growing up told me all day everything I had to do as a man. They beat us down. Second class citizen. Everything but how to lead.
How did they make you feel beat down?
@@BiblePsychology68 a few things...but it's mostly everything was put on us. If any of us strayed with a wxman it the mxns fault. We had rules for how to treat wxmen with kid gloves. Look out for them, sacrifice for them, put up with them, protect them...on and on.
Mothers day: Lxdies have we told you how great you are lately besides all the time?
Father's day: Mxn you need to step it up. Be better. Do better. You're knuckle heads that are lucky to be married. Let's talk about what you can do to make wxmens lives easier.
All the leadership roles are on us and the modern church which has lost its mind gives us no tools for leadership. We are constantly admonished to fulfill our roles and wxmen more often the not got a pass. I wonder to this day why I would ever sign up for that. Especially when according to this preacher no matter what I face its going to be all about my issues. There will be no support. The Bible is clear. This ain't it chief.
@@localstrangeness find a new church. One that preaches the gospel.
@@BiblePsychology68 that's the problem lady. You see lots of churches preach the gospel but when it comes to this very important topic they sort of lose their minds. I've seen one pastor tackle it and that was in amherst mass. A liberal capital and he just popped off. He's like men love your wives. Wives submit to your husband's. Then a pause and he says it's not pc but that's the what the Bible says. If you have an issue with it take it up with God.
@@localstrangeness it's definitely a topic that's out of balance and needs revelation. It's ok, God will probably use a woman to set it all straight and y'all be glad for once you let a woman have the microphone.
I love how gentle and biblical you are! I learned a lot and I will try to be a better wife and do my part regardless of how my husband behaves! God bless u pastor x
Its really heartbreaking to see women accepting a lesser position in life in favour of men. This world is not worth living in.
@@the8thchurch461 I am no way lesser than my husband! And the pastor did not teach that. You should pay more attention to the teaching you listening to.
@@hannacamacho I admit I didn't listen to the teacher/video but I know what the Bible teaches and the fact that women are the ones strengthening the ideology that teaches that we are trash, less intelligent (mustn't teach men, mustn't be in positions of power as rulers, mustn't preach), is simply heartbreaking. All your Father in Heaven wants for you is to be a homemaker, a wife and mother. Do you wear a NIQAB, covering the whole body including the eyes, with holes around the eyes so you can see where you are going? Women are more religious than men and I suppose that supports the idea that we are infact brainless.
@@the8thchurch461 I think you are really out of touch of what is happening here. I did not comment that I do my part as only a home maker. I recommend you watching the video before you become all emotional and randomly acc using for no reason. With a behaviour like this you are just proving whatever you try to deny. You are being far too emotional and far off without knowing context. My comment was simply ; we all have our part in marriage and I have to do my part regardless how much my husband does his. It had nothing to do with me being lesser or brainless… please think and listen before you speak
@@hannacamacho I know what he is talking about but whatever. I am just glad that women are refusing for men to have "authority" over them. Sickening. Glad I am not married.
Thank you for your insight and wisdom. I have learned so much. Best of all I look forward to learned my more.
The issues you point out Pastor Mike regarding two people trying to be the leader and the battles is something I'm witnessing with my parents. You even accurately pointed out what happens when parents divide up certain responsibilities. ( I know now this approach came out of mistrust and mismanagenent with finances). Their marriage has not been wonderful to watch. And yes, my dad has unfortunately come out looking unreasonable while my mom gripes about him behind his back.
There came a point where I realised she was actually poisoning my mind against my dad - whether it was her intention or not. Now, I'm asking God to change my heart towards my dad because I'm now very stubborn toward him.
There's so much bittnerness in my mom's heart towards my father. So much pain and unforgiveness. Granted, its the same with my dad who often feels we always pick my mom's side.
Through this lesson I'm seeing the very issue with my parent's marriage. And I can now learn what not to do if I get married.
I'm a woman and I approve this message 😂. You hit this head-on. And you are soo on point with the women conference "beautiful" thing.😅 This is Honestly one of the best teachings to women I've heard on this topic and it's by a man. 🤦🏾♀️😂
It’s a miracle that this pastor has the guts to preach the word about women and their place in society. Eight years ago I read the book. “Created to be his helpmeet” by Debi Pearl it blew me away I was a Christian women Liber and controlled my sweet, precious, loving, hubby to the point where he stayed in his man cave all evening. When I shut my mouth and stopped telling him a better way of doing things and stopped arguing with him he came alive into a beautiful person and here he’s a supervisor at the defense department for many years I’m so ashamed how I treated him for 15 years and my dad all those years growing up being defiant. God bless you.
This was much needed . To do my part and and love My wife biblically
Good to learn about this :)
Lol 😆 Mike trying to do the accent so funny!!
This philosophy on marriage is so beautiful and exactly what I needed. Thank God you were able to share this message! I needed to especially hear the part where you said marriage is FOR the glory of God, because I was concerned that submission in undesirable circumstances wouldn't be later rewarded by God in heaven since marriage "WAS" the reward. I am no longer afraid of marriage now knowing that while marriage has its benefits, God acknowledges the responsibility and is willing to reward accordingly in heaven. A detrimental sacrifice on earth will still result in a reward in heaven, so I don't have to fear my submission being taken advantage of. Thank you deeply God and this church for saving my marriage before it ever begins!
I think that you should be afraid of your submission be taken advantage of, and therefore choose wisely who you are going to marry. If they are not submitted to God, it can feel like hell.
@aimee3042, it's far more likely that she will take advantage of the man's love.
Mike, I’ve been truly blessed by your teachings. Thank you.
This was EXCELLENT!
Mike, thank you so much for having the guts to teach us women what our place in a marriage is. Christian marriage counselor teachers out there like Jimmy Evans needs to listen to your studies because he and all pastors are too afraid of women to tell us what we need to know about how to submit to our husbands They know that 80% of women are the tithers in the church and 80% of women buy all the marriage books and no author wants to offend these women by telling them the truth. You are brave! Please write a book!
I got to tell you I was a Christian woman Liber until I read a book 8 years ago “Created to be his helpmeet” by Debi Pearl
It revolutionized by marriage I realized how I controlling I was to my sweet hubby, who was a supervisor in the Defense department for many years. Every day he’d stay in his man cave, and I wondered why? I couldn’t find any pastor not even Jimmy Evans who is the renowned marriage conference speaker to tell us women what our role in the marriage is and how to to submit to our husbands and not argue with them. I felt so ashamed how I treated this sweet kind, thoughtful, tender man. I realized that if I was living with Jesus, I would have treated him the same way eventually. God bless you Mike!!!!
Thank you for this sermon.
I love the philosophical approach you take and your sermon on husbandry gave me a better insight on being a better husband to my wonderful jewel I married.
God bless and keep up the fantastic job.
I am sorry to God but I am not submitting to an abusive man,a man who does not love me , a man who does not appreceiate me ,a man Who CHEATS .
NEVER ,IT IS OKAY WHATEVER HAPPENS HAPPENS
BUT I AM NOT PUTTING MY LIFE IN DANGER, OR MY MENTAL HEALTH,IT IS NOT WORTH IT
This was a really helpful video. Also thank you for clarifying that the submission is to a woman's husband. When I was lukewarm, this domineering chauvinist mindset that some Christian men have was very off putting. It means so much to know that this is God's idea for the structure of marriage, since He totally knows what is best for us. My inner feminist/womanist reacted when I first read those passages, but at the same time, I was reading it with the mindset that I trust God.
I guess my worry, before I started reading the Bible, was that women were some how seen as some slightly lesser human or something. While there seems to be an order to things, so far (New Testament and up to the beginning of Exodus) I don't see that God treats women as less valuable in His sight. In my own life, I feel God's love and care.
The Way of Agape is an excellent book on this topic, written by Chuck and Nancy Missler, whose marriage was saved and became a wonderful example of what God intends which is a blessed and joyful relationship when they followed his plan for marriage.
Just watching this video for the first time, and I haven't read the 1,259 comments.
You mentioned Abigail properly rebelling against Nabal, and I always use her as an example myself.
However, you said that she was the only woman who rebelled rightly that you could think of, and I just want to say that if Sapphira had rebelled against Ananias in Acts chapter 5, then the Lord wouldn't have killed her for agreeing to tempt the Spirit of the Lord with her wicked husband.
Great point with Acts 5. It reaffirms the idea that "submission" applies only until it results in unholy acts.
I mean, you're forgetting the part where husbands submit to Jesus, and wolves submit to Jesus and then their husbands. In all things, God comes first. This is perfectly illustrated in Genesis with the fall of man.
as a fifteen year old, i always understood this topic but never had a great understanding of it to defend it, thank you so much
Try something. Look at the ages of the people who speak from opposing viewpoints. Even if its just on this video, I've noticed that the older crowd isn't promoting this idea of biblical submission. Unless they are getting paid somehow. That really ought to speak volumes.
@@meredithr9824 because they bought into the lies jezebel sold them
Wow. I never thought of the Abigail story as a occurrence to not "submit"
Consistent good teaching. Thank you!
102 women gave this a 👎🏻😂. I'm not one of them! Love your ministry. Thank you and God bless 🙏🏻. Men and women think I'm crazy when I say feminism killed chivalry. I work in security and the chain of command is of the utmost importance and simple to understand why. Why can't we be different but of equal importance?
Hey there! I just looked up 1 Peter 3:3 and I notice that it’s only the NASB that adds “merely”. I sure like the merely being in there but why would it be missing from the other translations. There’s a big difference between “do not” and “do not merely”.
The command is not to abandon outward beauty but to esteem inward beauty more than what meets the eye. A girl who is not particularly pretty genetically, should find complete peace in the fact that she cultivates the fruits of the Spirit. A girl who is especially beautiful outwardly, should be especially careful not to become wrapped up in the looks she gets from men, to pursue the attention and to obsess over her clothes, weight and makeup. We are being called to be eternally minded. To truly covet the real goodness, that bears fruit when we become older and wrinklier and most importantly in the afterlife.
The reason we must always take care to outwardly beautify ourselves is for the sake of our husbands and society in general. The heart and the purpose is what matters here. Paul encourages couples to make love regularly. A part of this is the wife's role to make herself physically attractive for her husband in a way that pleases him. It would be loveless to let yourself go, when you know your husband needs you to be put together, looking and being healthy. Dressing tastefully and practicing good grooming are signs of wellness and are generally inspiring for to others to see.
The NKJV adds "merely," too.
@@tanyag-artist of course it does cos it's "new" (the old version does not)
Watch the documentary on RUclips "new world order bible translations". ONLY THE King James is correct all these "new" translations are brought about by demonic forces trying to corrupt gods word. They're just doing it slowly but surely through a change here and a change there. It won't stop and in another 50 years it will be further than it is now
@@EmilyGrobler The "merely" is added in NKJ and other modern versions and shouldn't be there.
@mike winger, after doing the in depth study on women in ministry, do you still hold this stance fully on submission? Thank you
Good question. His stance (and tone) has changed considerably in the past few years, which is not uncommon.
So here’s an issue I would like some clarity on:
If my husband says I said something I know I did not say, am I supposed to submit to his judgment and agree to that? Conversely, if do tell him something and he insists I did not tell him, am I to submit to his judgement and agree that I didn’t tell him?
Lying would be a sin. I would recommend being as gentle as possible and tell the truth. You don’t need to convince him or keep the conversation going if he wants to drop it. I would say that if you feel that you would not be safe by following this advice, don’t do it. If that is the case, you may need to recognize that you are in a marriage with an abusive person. As he mentioned in this video, Abigail had to go behind her husbands back to keep her household safe.