Thanks for all the recommendations & clarifications for things I didn't understand everybody!! Super helpful. I really appreciate it. P.S. super embarrassing that I've been mis-reading "Megadeth" as "Megadeath" this whole time lmao
you are gonna have so many comment with 50 bands that you “must” listen. but yeah soad is great also to get a general idea just listen to spotify metal playlists, you will get the hits and see what sounds you like
@@AlfoMedia For Dio I'd recommend Rainbow's Rising as well, as he sang lead over that. It also has Ritchie Blackmore the lead guitarist for Deep Purple another very early band
I'll love to see you listen to Emperor - In the Nightside Eclipse and Bathory - Under the Sign of the Black Mark. Two classics of the black metal that would be a perfect introduction to the genre.
Absolutely. For example I think that Power Metal (my favourite subgenre, tbf) is one of the best places to start. It's cleaner, but still clearly metal and can get really rough at times. I also like nu metal, but I don't think it's the best place to start.
not really. I don't need to understand anything but some history to understand sabaton I don't need to understand anything to understand Alestorm, I just need to like pirates Babymetal is just interesting to listen to and Gloryhammer, the only thing you need is imagination and love of fantasy
Every Metal head thinks that what he like is "Real Metal" and everything else isn't Metal. Lol Internet definition of Metal being loud. Mighty pathetic non technical definition - the author of that definition could have simply wrote any music I don't like.
Ginger, I understand your sentiment. Many like what they like but the most vocal like what they like and think that other's opinions are wrong. Personally I like Power Metal, Symphonic Metal, some Thrash, and didn't like the 90s metal at all. I have no problem with people who do, only those that think Black Metal and Death metal are the only metal. And it is unfortunate that most people who don't like metal or never listen to it assume the worst negative stereotypes about metal heads from the worst examples of fans of those 2 genres. My personal view of music is that if the music is good and the there is a good vocalists and good lyrics then I will listen to it. For an example I like old Metallica because they have good lyrics and good song structure. I don't like Megadeth, mostly because I can't stand the singer's voice, Slayer is just terrible, except the album South of Heaven. I don't like Death Metal as a genre but Jinger has some excellent musicianship and song writing, I could just do without the death growling parts. I like complexity in music, and that includes the ranges of instruments and vocals. I come from listening to classical music as a child and complex orchestration appeals to me. Vocalist with great ranges is important, as well as musicians that explore the full range of their instruments.
@@gerardcote8391 now that is controversial, Megadeth i understand not liking, i personally love them but mustaines voice can be a bit shit sometimes, i have the same view on Anthrax, Slayer is intentionally chaotic, thats why they are so loved because they pretty much gave birth to bands like sepultura and testament. Jinjer is ok but i dont like them much because of the style, not because ginger. What some might call tech death is a good place to get into the death growl sound bands like Gojira have incredible musicianship and the singer screams but its still coherent, the same with extreme metal bands like Meshuggah, who are incredible musically and the vocalists has his own sound. unfortunately a lot of metal has the issue of just trying to be the heaviest and the fastest and that takes away from the sound. from what you describe i imagine you would like bands like opeth and dream theater if you dont already listen to them.
@@juuzousuzuya24 they have the characteristics of a hair or a glam metal band but I can see why some people call them hard rock, not a fan of them tho so I might be biast
I hate how he became an elitist in 40 days. I like classic metal too, but the constant need to bash current artists solely for the reason they weren't born 30-40 yrs back seems absurd.
sven tutt i doubt he would like them i do enjoy some black metal but drath metal is just trash to me and its the reason people think metal is “only screaming lul”
That is the exact reason I'm watching this. I know very very little about metal and its subgeneras. I like classic rock and hip hop, but am trying to learn about Metal. I bought my first metal vinyl Metallica's Master of Puppets. I was told that was a good jumping off point. I do like the sounds of the 80s metal over some of the new stuff I've listened to. Maybe that is where everyone starts. I just don't like the growling and incoherent vocals lots of metal bands have.
@@bexiemounne7781 I don't really listen to a lot of stoner metal, but i could recommend DOWN. With Phil Anselmo being the vocalist, i think you'll like it, it's also pretty easy to listen to (not overwhelming and shit like that). \m/
Slayer: Thrash with a darker content Amon Amarth: Melodic death metal about a lot of viking stuff Rammstein: You either like it or you don’t, just give it a whirl Black Label Society: trust me on this one, some stuff is metal but Zakk Wylde likes his blues Body Count: Ice-T likes metal GWAR: it seems hokey and over the top, but necessary Killswitch Engage: I’m not big on metalcore but Howard Jones. Any of their work with Howard Jones Dio: Ronnie James Dio. If Black Sabbath had a more Dungeons and Dragons feel. Motörhead: Lemmy. Closer to punk than metal, but one of Metallica’s favorite bands Tool: Lateralus Venom: another band from the transitional hard rock to heavy metal era Sabaton: anthemic power metal and a lesson in military history
Eh, korn have more of a groove influence. Slipknot definitely have a hip hop influence but they pull from a lot of places. Its mostly Corey's vocal flow and delivery on clean vocals and sid on the turntables. Jim is more akin to a jazz guitarist, where mick is more thrash-esque. Paul and joey have a lot of groove.
One of the most confusing things about getting into metal for the first time is the fact that metal has so many different subgenres and they sound different. So one sound doesn't define the genre as a whole.
As far as the Nu Metal genre goes, would it be safe to say that Faith No More, "Roots" by Sepultura, or Pantera with their groove play a role in the start of Nu Metal?
Slipknot is one if those bands that you either vibe with or don't. If you know their backstory it really helps, because they're a band that a lot of people relate to.
I don’t mind their music, they have really sad backstories. But I just prefer classic metal. i.e Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, Megadeth and Slayer too. Mötley Crüe if you wanna count them too
Iowa hooked me into metal in general. The pure nihilism of that album was perfect for angsty 15 year old me just entering highschool. Still go back to that album from time to time brings back rushes of memories.
Me: *sees that Megadeth's name is spelled wrong* My objectively bias metalhead heart: calm down....CALM DOWN, JUST BREATH, IT'S HIS FIRST TIIIIIIIIME!!!
As a hip hop fan, this albums got me into metal, now I enjoy metal more and more Megadeth - Rust In Peace Metallica- Kill Em All Sleep - Dopesmoker Electrical Wizard - Dopethrone Death - Human / Leprosy Burzum - Filosofem Opeth - Blackwater Park
To people interested in metal I usually recommend stuff like Sabaton or Bloodywood ... you can get them with the feels and expose them to the harder stuff depending on the song
The newer bands you didn’t like are actually all huge bands within their respective sub-genres. “Old heads” hate them, but they all brought something new to the table, which is why they all still have huge fanbases and sell out arenas everywhere. Unfortunately, metal as a whole has too many elitist fans that spread hate, rather than just saying it’s not for them.
I'm about to be destroyed. I don't like slayer, Black Sabbath, or iron maiden and I have been a metal head my whole life. They just never did anything for me.
@@xero1xr Destroyed ? Well, that would be a shame. I don't like Slayer either, the other two I like but mostly because me and my brother learned our instruments and music in general listening to them amongst other bands. It's all about tastes and colors and ways you connected with things throughout your life. Ziggy's 100% right, too much elitists. That goes for everything musical but metal has the loudest of them all and sadly enough I've had more constructive discussions about music with country enthusiasts or hihopheads than metalheads for that very reason. "If you're thrashmetal you can't be core, if you're core you're not a real heavy but if you like heavy you can't like death or glam [...] ... and God forbid you like metal fusioned with anything else cause that's worse than murder or smth. It's all a shame...
Fun fact: Megadeth is a technical term that’s used to measure number of casualties caused by a nuclear bomb. 1 Megadeth = 1 million deaths via nuclear bomb.
And he also spelt it ‘megadeath’ in the video which is incorrect....sorry to be that guy but the metalhead inside me got triggered at this for some reason
@@nightshade3782 I have listened to all Tool albums countless times and imo they are more prog metal than prog rock. Prog rock tends to be even more experimental
@@jussitanska8279 yeah, I know but Tool is something between prog rock and prog metal, they not straight metal band and they even don't classificate themselves as metal
slipknot - subliminal verses, although i wasn’t born when the album come out so many songs played on the rock channels on tv and my mum was a big fan during the early 2010s
There is a documentary called Metal: A Headbangers Journey that you should check out. It could be helpful understanding the history of metal and it’s evolution
They were thrown in the metal pile by the general population a long time ago, as the hard rock/metal differences weren't that clear back then. They're definitely harder than average rock but not metal in my book. I'd say most of Deep Purple and Led Zeppelin's discography wouldn't fit in our contemporary definition of metal either, but back when they released it everything was softer and there was no way to guess how hard metal would become. I mean the "earliest" example was Helter Skelter by The Beatles of all people so
Also, the name of the band Megadeth comes from the term "megadeath" meaning "one million deaths". It's a term coined to describe the awesome destructive power of nuclear warheads. So the death toll of a nuclear war would be measured in megadeaths.
I just went in with cannibal corpse as like my first metal band I listened to and they are still one of my favorites but I get where you are coming from with Gojira because I revisited them yesterday and they are probably better if you want to into it more easily
Metal is just such a HUGE and differentiated genre. It takes a lot of time and patience to dig in and all. Also the appreciation comes with time, at first something might not sound even like music, but after a bit you begin to understand it and it all ties together, forcing you to love it. I think some interesting bands to check out would be Behemoth, Gojira, and maybe even push it further with death metal and bands like Fit for an autopsy or Thy art is murder. One of my favourite bands is Meshuggah, but that's a whole different and unique thing, which takes time to appreciate, more than anything i have ever listened to.
Well said! Back when I was younger, I used to only listen to EDM and dubstep and whatever was on the radio, like your typical 10 year old. It wasn’t until I started playing guitar and my mom introduced me to bands like Tool, Filter and Foo Fighters that I got into actual BANDS. My dad then introduced me to Metallica, Pantera and a bunch of 80’s bands. This is when it truly started for me. As I learned guitar, I started listening to music more for the MUSIC aspect, but still hated scream vocals. It was then when I got into Fit for a King and Wage War, and I started to warm up to screaming. Ever since then, I’ve been more and more into it, to the point where Thy Art is Murder, Fit for an Autopsy, Chelsea Grin and Shadow of Intent are among my top favorite bands, mainly BECAUSE of the harsh vocals. I love it now. I still listen to tamer metalcore bands (Northlane being my favorite band of all time, along with Silent Planet, Invent, Animate, Currents and Thornhill), and I also love 90’s alternative, 80’s rock, jazz, blues, 40s-50s, and even classical. I am so glad I opened up to new music, because now I couldn’t be happier with my taste in music. I wish others would do the same and stop backing the whole mumble rap trend nowadays.
I started listening with power metal and never thought I'd get into much else. Now some of my favorite bands are doom and death metal. Still like power metal though
in my honest opinion AC/DC and Guns n’ roses are hard rock, tho it’s “heavy” it doesn’t have the same type of chugging, complexity, and speed that metal bands have, guns n’ roses and ac/dc in the 80s had lots of commercial appeal and were very popular. metal was definitely a more underground thing
Influential for sure but yeah totally agree, hard rock. We just have to acknowledge that influence they had in both transitioning people to heavier music and the challenge in becoming better guitarists and more complex players.
Metal was literally the most popular genre of the 90s, after the mid 80s it was definitely not underground. Although there were the purists and snobs fans, in interviews of bands like Metalica you clearly see the bands themselves weren't even close to match the elitism of the fans, and spoke nicely about some glam or other popular metal bands. And even the "serious" metal bands were as much "posers" with their forced angry faces and rebel persona, as the ones that metal heads derided just because those bands had popular appeal. Pop bands just didn't fake it as well and played "happier" songs using major scales which was a give away lol
salem In it's current state, it's a hollow shell of what was meant to be before Lars got his hands on the mixing. Personally, I think of it as their 4th best album, simply due to the mixing issue.
@@Emolga2225 I think that the mix fits the record very well even though I'm a bass player and I love to hear bass.. I think that the lack of low end in Justice makes it sound really unique.
Yeah so the four bands you mentioned towards the end... Yeah don't worry about them. Avenged Sevenfold's guitarist has a lot of respect to his name, but he's the only standout (in my eyes anyway). Korn and Slipknot are fairly well respected for creating and popularising respectively the sub genre of Nu Metal, but not for many other reasons, seeing as nu metal is one of the most hated subgenres due to bands like Disturbed, Papa Roach etc (System of a Down sometimes get unfairly grouped into Nu Metal). As for where to go from here, definitely try System of a Down, very funny and wacky at times, but also really catchy and serious at points (melon have their sophomore album a classic review). I'd also say maybe branch out into the metalcore/ mathcore genres(Deep Cuts has a video on getting into Mathcore). There came a point when hardcore punk and metal crossed over in the 90s and so bands like The Dillinger Escape Plan, Converge, Botch from that era are worth a listen, although can be difficult to deal with the vocals, so maybe try some of Dillinger's later albums like One of Us Is The Killer or Ire works for something more experimental at points. This particular brand of more high octane metalcore (steer clear of the emo branded metalcore, it can be pretty cringy and also not really listened to by metalheads, but more by the emo scene and from what I gather, you seem to want the more authentic experience of metal) really prepared me for even more intense extreme genres. Sorry if this is a bit long but I really empathised with your intro. I grew up in an indie, alt rock and pop house, and I still love those genres, but I ended up being the one to introduce myself to metal, and honestly I find it so funny but also slightly heartbreaking for me when I see "metal families" where the entire family of people are all wearing slayer shirts and have long hair and piercings (true story). Hopefully I can help and havent come across too snobby or elitist :)
Definitely a good way to go. Metalcore/Mathcore is def a good path into the more abrasive stuff. Converge’s Jane Doe took me probably 10+ listens before I really began to love it. Still can’t understand what he’s saying though lol
Komornik5872 Honestly yeah, Toxicity is the first Metal Album that I was able to play all the way through. Now, I find myself listening to other Metal Bands while still not knowing too much about the genre 😂
Something to know about heavy metal is that it has like a million different sub genres, thrash metal, doom metal, death metal etc. I think it would make for an interesting series if you listened and investigated to all these different sub genres
I'm team Ghost all the way. I would never say they represent metal, but for what they are, they're pretty good. They're like pop-metal parody, a guilty pleasure.
Here a few recommendations : Progressive Metal: Mastodon - Crack the Skye (personal favourite ) Tool - Lateralus Gojira - From Mars to Sirius Stoner/Doom Metal: Electric Wizard - Dopethrone Kyuss - Welcome to Sky Valley Should hopefully be enough for now, enjoy the journey :)
The whole point of metal is that there's a lot of different genres, power metal and death metal are nearly opposites in the metal spectrum, but still are classified as metal because of the overall evolution of metal. You just gotta dive deep on some of the more niche genres to really know what you wanna hear.
The three albums in history that actually started heavy metal as a genre 1. Black Sabbath-paranoid 2. Led Zeppelin-led zeppelin II 3. Deep Purple-in rock
@@timothyness6695 no he didn't, Motorhead are awesome but the term Heavy Metal was coined about Led Zeppelin and Deep Purple, while Sabbath was the first to openly commit to it
@@Dementat I picked In Rock because all of the three albums were released around the same time(69 to 70 era). They were the three albums at that time that popularized the heavy and aggressive style of sound.
Metal is the umbrella term; not heavy metal. Heavy metal refers to the traditional style played by Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Dio, Armored Saint, etc. This includes NWOBHM bands (Iron Maiden, Saxon, Tygers of Pan Tang, Diamond Head, Raven, etc), USPM (Manowar, Jag Panzer, Riot, Savatage, Omen, etc), and NWOTHM (Enforcer, Striker, Ambush, Night Demon, Eternal Champion, etc). Heavy metal is my favourite style of metal. A lot of the "heavier" stuff is metal with punk touches which in my opinion makes it less fun. Trad chads for life!
@@JustPuckinAround I'm on the other side of you haha. I'm big on punk, specifically hardcore. I like the thrashy, sludgy shit that doesn't sound all that great (not metalcore and other core subgenres though). I still recognize the impact that the traditional bands had though and the quality of their music. Respect your opinion broski
Death - The Sound of perseverance Dying Fetus - Grotesque Implement Slipknot - Self Titled Lamb of God - Ashes of the wake Behemoth - The Satanist Bloodbath - Nightmares made flesh
You should try Black Metal. It's solf,relaxing,heart-warming,inspiring,motivational,emotional etc. Believe me Forgot to mention, infant annihilator would be nice to listen to
14:39 Those bands like Korn, Slipknot, Disturbed, etc, only seemed like fads because the gatekeepers and critics hated it coz it was so new and created a new sound (nu metal), so they convinced all metal fans that they didn't count. So these bands had to change their style to make the gatekeepers happy. But now all these bands are loved and respected by the fans, bands, and the gatekeepers.
It’s also that Nu-metal also mixed in some rap/hip-hop elements, be it thematically, sound-wise or vocally, so it might be a bit of a bridge between rap and metal. A lot of songs are basically rap with metal riffs under it
Agreed. Anyone else ever noticed how similar welcome to the jungle and cowboys from hell are? Maybe just in terms of rhythm. I mean for the sake of arguing it's almost the same genre. Almost.
He's one of the best artists to get into metal, specially if you're into pop. I have some friends who are more into pop and they tended to enjoy his first 2 albums. The dude knew how to write an enjoyable song
I would really recommend the industrial genre. Ministry, Nine Inch Nails, Einstruzende Neubaten, Pailhead, Lard, Revolting Cocks, Skinny Puppy, KMFDM, Foetus and others. The blend of electronic, metal, and noise was my 90s sound.
These should be your next stops. Death - Human Death - Symbolic Cynic - Focus Pantera - Cowboys From Hell Systerm of a Down - Self Titled Systerm of a Down - Toxicity Tool - Aenima Tool - Lateralus Judas Priest - Painkiller Judas Priest - Sad Wings of Destiny
While I don't know much about the first 2 bands, everything else on here is great, I think if you’re gonna listen to System's first 2, he might as well listen to Mesmerize and Hypnotize which IMO are their masterpieces, Tool and Dream Theater are probably the most mind blowing metal acts I’ve ever heard so Tool definitely belongs here
"Metal: a Headbanger's Journey" is the documentary *YOU NEED* ! Trust me. The Metal world goes above and beyond anything you mentioned here. We live in a golden age of metal. No, seriously. It may not be on the radio, but Metal has never been this interesting or diverse. Welcome! ♥ (Seriously watch that doc)
I know you're new to the genre and all of these amazing albums, but you almost fucking killed me when you spelt megadeth like "megaDEATH" Also, some recommendations: Thrash Slayer - Raining Blood Anthrax - Among The Living Kreator - Coma Of Souls Testament - The Legacy Suicidal Tendencies - Lights, Camera, Revolution Sepultura - Arise Death metal (heavier thrash with harsher vocals) Death - Human Death - Symbolic Morbid Angel - Alters Of Madness At The Gates - Slaughter Of The Soul Carcass - Heartwork Entombed - Left Hand Path Bolt Thrower - For Victory Black Metal (very abrasive and raw. Its designed to be that way. Also, tread VERY carefully. Some black metal fans are very intense and defensive of the genre. If you at all try to say why you don't like the genre, they will tear you a new one) Mayhem - Deathcrush Emperor - In The Nightside Eclipse Darkthrone - Transilvanian Hunger Bathory - Under The Sign Of The Black Mark Dissection - Storm Of The Lights Bane Doom Metal (heavy metal but slower and more melancholy. Can have both clean and extreme vocals) Candle mass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus Type O Negative - Bloody Kisses Sleep - Holy Mountain Electric Wizard - Dopethrone Bell Witch - Mirror Reaper Progressive Metal (pushes the boundaries of metal in terms of technicality instead of extremety, even though it can be extreme and borrow from other metal genres) Dream Theater - Images And Words Tool - Lateralus Opeth - Blackwater Park Mastodon - Crack The Skye Gojira - From Mars To Sirius Meshuggah - ObZen Cynic - Focus Metalcore (heavy metal fuzed with hardcore [a subgenre of punk and in a way, a cousin of thrash metal] once again tread very carefully. The elitists [oldheads for metal heads] absolutely HATE this genre) Killswitch Engage - The End Of Heartache Avenged Sevenfold - Waking The Fallen (probably heavier than the stuff you've heard by them) Bullet For My Valentine - Scream Aim Fire Bring Me The Horizon - Sempiternal Deathcore (death metal fuzed together with hardcore and incorporates breakdowns. This is where a bunch of the modern metal is made) Suicide Silence - The Cleansing Thy Art Is Murder - Hate Job For A Cowboy - Demonocracy Whitechapel - Our Endless War As Blood Runs Black - Allegience Black Tongue - Born Hanged Metallic Hardcore (literally hardcore bands that listen to and borrow more from metal than hardcore) Code Orange - Forever Code Orange - Underneath (literally only dropped a few weeks ago) Converge - Jane Doe Dillinger Escape Plan - Ire Works Knocked Loose - A Different Shade Of Blue Other (groove metal, industrial metal, power metal) Machine Head - Burn My Eyes Sepultura - Roots Blind Guardian - Nightfall In Middle Earth Sabaton - Heroes Dragonforce - Inhuman Rampage Rammstein - Mutter Extreme Metal (exactly what you'd expect it to be. This is the heaviest, most aggressive and most brutal forms of music ever made. I only put this in here if you really wanted to challenge yourself because this would send any new comer running to the hills [yes, that was an iron maiden pun]. Have fun with these and yes, all of these band and album names are real) Infant Annihilator - The Elysian Granderval Galleraich NAILS - You Will Never Be One Of Us Cattle Decapitation - Monolith Of Humanity Cannibal Corpse - Tomb Of The Mutilated Behemoth - The Satanist Fleshgod Apocalypse - Agony Suffocation - Effigy Of The Forgotten Carcass - Symphonies Of Sickness Devourment - Butcher The Weak Best music of last decade. Last decade had a bunch of amazing releases from both old and new bands. I've put down 10 albums which I believe were the best of last decade. Some of these are going to be underground releases and pretty extreme but I fully believe that these albums best paint a picture of 2010s metal Gojira - L'enfant Sauvage Power Trip - Nightmare Logic Deaf heaven - Sunbather Horrendous - Ecdysis Behemoth - The Satanist Carcass - Surgical Steel Bell Witch - Mirror Reaper Code Orange - Forever Mgla - Exercises In Futility Cattle Decapitation - Death Atlas Sorry for the long read but you're literally trying to cover 50 years of music history in the span of a few months. It's really not easy
A couple of rabbit hole recommendations: Rammstein (German industrial metal) Iron Maiden (classic British metal) Power metal in general (usually high tempo and more classic sounding) By rabbit hole, I mean just put on a playlist / album and just let it play. One of the bands that solidified my love of metal was Sabaton, a Swedish power metal band that focuses on telling the stories of war. When it comes to metal though, just take your time getting into it. It's a nearly endless genre of music that can easily overwhelm someone who's just starting on the journey. Hell, it took me around four years to finally start liking Slipknot.
I dont know if thats true anymore. There used to be this whole purist deal but now things are so open I couldnt condense what metal today sounds like. Its more mindset than sound these days. Almost anything can be metal.
@@zsjb_ growing up at the time I would absolutely disagree and say iron maiden is the prototypical (original version of) heavy metal sounding band. Black Sabbath invented the sound that became heavy metal but was before the term existed so would probably have been called hard Rock. But not iron maiden.
@@Will_Wel there is zero doubt in my mind that maiden is metal, and sabbath too I'd say, but I'm pointing out that many people argue that the first real metal bands were thrash like Metallica and megadeth. I think that's utter bs tho, sabbath is the first metal band
try introducing them to skinflint or ARKA'N ... I mean they are bands from different parts of Africa so it might convince them Rock and metal are for everyone
Opeth, Mastodon, Gojira, Tool, Katatonia, Between The Buried and Me, Be'lakor, Rivers of Nihil, Cult of Luna, Alcest, Behemoth, Pallbearer, Insomnium, Agalloch, Blood Incantation, Cynic, Devin Townsend, The Ocean, Zeal and Ardor...the list goes on and on! There are so many great modern bands. The classics are great, but if you are patient modern stuff will grow on you :) The current metal scene is diverse even tho you need to go a little beyond what is mainstream to find gems ! Hope you continue your metal journey :) !
@@gmobile6991 Tool is metal, obviously, but its progmetal and they are unique, but its hard sound without using the pentathonic scale, and screamings, makes Tool a great progressive METAL band. Also their lirycs are hard, complexe and tuff like metal lirycs, and also they try to make new sounds
I heard about them but never listened before, I think Zack De La Rocha was a member and I liked him on the run the jewels albums. So I'll check them out
Just throwing it out there, if you don't mind bands a little bit heavier, Astroid Boys, and Deez Nuts are great for a hardcore/rap blend, and Enter Shikari for a more techno/hardcore style
"I wish I had a metalhead to explain if both groups are welcome, or if one group is more real than the other or something" *boy do we have the elitists for you*
It isn't a matter of elitism nor a group of groups being "more metal" than another group of groups it's more of a matter of definition and classification of really what metal is. It's like saying Run DMC's and Aerosmith's version of "Walk this way" is metal just because it uses guitars and has a guitar loop or saying that Death Grips are metal because they scream and use loud noises… A metal song isn't only made up by loud noises, screams, a drum track and guitar, it's much more than that and depending on how you arrange those elements you can get very different results. In order for a metal song to be really metal it has to contain certain stylistic elements, roughness, hardness, heavyness, loudness at times, the topic, the history of the band and it's roots and inspiration, the motivation, etcetera. It's the same way with any other genre, there are certain requirements to be followed in order for a hip-hop song to be considered a real hip hop song, or a rap to b considered rap, or a funk to be considered funk or an EDM to be considered so, for Jazz to be really Jazz, for a Symphony to be considered a Symphony, for an orchestral suite to be considered so, and we can go on with any genre and style…
You don't have to explain what metal is to me, I am a metalhead. I agree that the bands in this section of the video are not metal, I'm just making a joke about how 'oblivious' he is to the degree of elitism there is in this genre. Like if that's what he's looking for, boy do we have it.
As somebody that only dabbles in metal, Ghost was one of the first bands I ever heard (outside of like Enter Sandman). I randomly stumbled on Cirice on spotify and it weirded me out but intrigued the hell out of me too. What are a couple of their songs outside of the popular ones that you think are great?
@@gabrielseaborn257 Late to this, no particular order (: Prime Mover, Deus in Absentia, Per Aspera Ad Inferi, Idolatrine, Monstrance Clock (I never appreciated this song until I saw them live and they played it as an encore love the ending so much) and Waiting For The Night. Hope you enjoy the band as much as I did, this band made me get so much deeper into metal.
Growing up around classic thrash, and mostly listening to hardcore / emo, I rarely dabble too deep into anything metal anymore but anything that Ghost produces, just clicks for some reason. They're absolutely fantastical and they're always a pleasure to listen to whenever I get the itch.
So starting from the late 80s to 2000s, I'd say there were 3 major developments outside of the classic/thrash metal you listened to that you seem to have missed. 1. Metalcore This is metal combined with hardcore punk from the late 80s. This music generally features breakdowns, and fast sections reminiscent of hardcore punk riffs from bands like black flag and minor threat. Albums I'd recommend are Converge - Jane Doe, Poison the Well - Opposite of December, Botch - We Are the Romans, and more recently Knocked Loose - A Different Shade of Blue from last year. The general impression among metal fans of metalcore is unreasonably negative, I'd say. Most of the bands that developed from this genre in the mid 2000s like Bring me the horizon, August Burns Red, As I Lay Dying and Parkway Drive are seen as being for angsty warped tour-going teenagers with scene hair and emo clothes, though I think a lot of the earlier stuff from the genre is great. [Some bands from this thread of music are called math-core sometimes, this basically refers to the odd and changing time signatures they use to create a chaotic sound] 2. Nu metal The embarrassing cousin of metal that is mostly looked back at with cringe. This is metal mixed with hip hop, starting in the early-mid 90s. There are very good albums from this genre that I'd recommend like Rage Against the Machine - s/t , System of a Down - Toxicity and Deftones - White Pony. The most famous bands from this genre would be Linkin Park(early) , Limp Bizkit, Slipknot and Korn. Musically, its characterised by heavily Hip-Hop influenced drumming, and down-tuned rhythm-focused guitar riffs that have a huge but monotone sound. The vocalists can be especially cringey, a prime example being Fred Durst from Limp Bizkit's rapping. 3. Extreme Metal - Namely Death Metal and Black Metal The most complex, heaviest and by far the genres with the most material. I can see fans being pissed that I put them together, but hear me out. These 2 genres are products of seeing just how far "heaviness" in metal can go, hence the "extreme" label. This question received 2 different answers, hence the split to the 2 genres. Basically Death Metal - Speed and Complexity and Black Metal - Evil and Depressing Atmosphere. a) Death Metal Recommended: Death - Symbolic and Cannibal Corpse - The Bleeding. Very fast and complex, with Blast Beats - basically a drummer going as fast as humanly possible with lyrics often about explicit violence. More Popular and pioneered in America. b) Black Metal Probably the most infamous genre of music, period, given the amount of genuine Nazis, Satanists and Church Burners in the genre. The Drums are fast, but the guitars are used to create an atmosphere of evil, with complexity thrown out the window. Its like metal's version of lo-fi or shoegaze. Depressive and satanic lyrics. Deafheaven is considered part of this genre, but is absolutely hated by the hardcore fans of the genre. Recommended: Darkthrone - Under a Funeral Moon, Immortal - Sons of Northern Darkness, Behemoth - The Satanist. Essentially in Death Metal, the hate is directed outward - to the world, wanting to destroy it and cause violence to others, but in Black Metal the hate is directed inward, with depressive and suicidal lyrics and atmosphere. Death Metal is more popular in the US and Black Metal in Europe - read into the cultural differences as much as you like **Extra Notes** -A genre with "technical" written in front of it generally means that the genre is a more "wanky" or complex version of the original genre. -Progressive Metal is what progressive rock is to rock (Rec: Opeth - Blackwater Park) -Djent is closely related to Mathcore, with odd time signature, but this time not used to create a chaotic atmosphere, and gets its name from the low guitar tone that characterises the genre. (Can hear it on eg. Meshuggah - Stengah, that low, bending sound) -Folk Metal = Folk+Metal -Power Metal = "motivational metal" - heroic lyrics and guitar leads about wars, heroism and fantasy. -Stoner/Doom Metal - Slow, thick guitar riffs that create the feeling of being high, Master of Reality is similar to this (Rec: Sleep - Holy Mountain) -Groove/Southern Metal - Rythmic-focused riffs with a lot of sliding , Pantera is in this genre
Was thinking about writing a similar comment. Thanks for doing the hard work! I hope he sees something like this because to appreciate metal as a whole it is important to hear how different it can all sound, and we all know the amount of subgenres is absurd.
@@Jordan-Ramses Oh sorry if it came off that way. Since he was asking how various bands/genres are seen by the metal community, I have to admit that although some excellent music came out of nu metal, the genre as a whole (especially the derivative stuff later) isnt seen very positively by most metalheads. By "cringe" I mean stuff like mudvayne, puddle of mudd, godsmack, disturbed. Love system of a down and slipknot btw
Resident metalhead here: There are definitely some bands that people will say aren't metal because people think they aren't good, but you don't get to decide if a band fits into a genre because you don't like them. Guns n' Roses, on the other hand, is 100% a rock band. Google has swindled you, nobody really considers gnr to be metal.
Here's my take on your questions : - ACDC and G&R are not metal, at all, they're hard rock with some punchy lyrics. - Pantera suffered from irregularity, they've got a few really awesome songs mixed into pretty mediocre albums, the singer definitely has a monstruous potential (cemetary gates, 5 minutes alone) and they had Dimebag, who's considered one of the (if not straight up the) best metal guitarist ever. - Slipknot and Disturbed are awesome, the other mentions are medium at best, i can't stand avenged sevenfold and i've never met a hardcore fan of them older than 16. - I do not like Judas Priest stuff that much either, the singer's voice and demeanor scream punk. - Please listen to more Iron Maiden, Bruce is such a powerhouse of a singer and their songs are genuinly interesting to listen to. - Do yourself a favor and listen to Rammstein. - Most metal heads i know absolutely love hip-hop (mostly old school stuff), most hip-hop heads i know despise metal, i don't know why but it is something i've seen throughout my life. - It's not about being "that guy" there's very little i find enjoyable in today's music, you don't have to like everything, you don't have to like what's new and trending, i'd rather turn my musical interest towards real classics and learn the history of music than force myself to listen to what's pop nowadays just to be included in the conversation.
Some songs to get into heavier subgenres: Mastodon: The Czar Fear Factory: Descend Dope: Paranoia All That Remains: Focus Shall Not fail Death: Crystal Mountain Gojira: Pain is a Master Falkenbach: Bluot Fuer Bluot Carach Angren: The Carriage Wheel Murder Batushka: Yekteniya 7
Its so wholesome seeing him spell Megadeth as "Megadeath", I used to do the same exact thing when I first starting learning about the genre before I got balls deep into metal.
My personal favorite metal album is Roots by the Brazilian metal band Sepultura. It’s pretty intense, but they do some really cool stuff on it. They use some classic Brazilian instruments, such as the berimbau in the intro to Attitude, Ratamataha is in Portuguese, and they did Itsari with a tribe in the Amazon. Not to mention a lot of the riffs are pretty simple. It might not be the best album for beginners in metal, because of it’s intensity, but its really worth a try
I would highly recommend watching Metal: A Headbanger's Journey. basically it is described as "The film discusses the traits and originators of some of metal's many subgenres, including the new wave of British heavy metal, power metal, nu metal, glam metal, thrash metal, black metal, and death metal."
With Slipknot, Korn, Disturbed and so on. Their lyrical rhythms are more incorporated with a rap element (more Slipknot and Disturbed). It can take multiple times listening to the bands to get into their music. Then again my preference is that I love the newer bands like Slipknot. There are also foreign bands like Rammstein and Sabaton that are worth listening to as well
Yea I would agree with that. Personally I think slipknot is a bit different from Korn. But Rammstein is considered industrial metal and because it's in a different language a lot of people don't listen to them regularly.
@@aristotleasparaguspodcast1129 I would think rammstein is totally different from hip hop, but it's so good! I guess the half german might have something to do with it? I'm not german but I still love that band lol
Hey man, You've stumbled your way into a bit of a feud within the metal community. Ie what is metal and what isn't. There's a term used a lot, "pure metal" or "true metal" that people often use to discount various forms or subgenres that they don't count as real metal. An example of this would be glam metal (eg Motley Crue) or nu metal (Korn). But realistically everything is lumped together under the overarching genre "metal". The term heavy metal wasn't actually applied to the earlier tracks that we now consider to be heavy metal. The term actually came from a lyric in Steppenwolf's Born to be Wild and was then used by a journalist to refer to music with a heavy sound and tone. There a plenty of examples of early metal but Black Sabbath is definitely the father of metal, basically responsible for multiple subgenres and setting the overall theme that would be present in heavy metal from then on. One track that is worth mentioning is Blue Cheer's Summertime Blues. Give that a listen. But from there you have bands like Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd and Deep Purple incorporate progressive and heavy elements into their music. Even if the band themselves isn't purely a metal band, they definitely contributed heavily to the formation of the genre. Coming into the late 70s and early 80s you had bands starting to push the boundaries of guitar playing and the technology on offer to the limit. Giving us an even more distorted sound and faster guitar playing. This is probably the first sub genre of heavy metal that came about. Trash. And that's what bands like Slayer, Metallica and Anthrax are. Rather than making this a short novel I thought I'd quickly go over a few prominent subgenres of metal and a few notable bands (maybe an album or two) for you to check out. Its also worth noting that most bands in metal don't strictly adhere to one subgenre but like to incorporate elements of multiple. In no particular order: Nu Metal (formed in the 90s blending metal with influences from the hip hop scene). Bands include Korn and Limp Bizkit. I'd listen to Korn's Take a Look in the Mirror (purely because that's my favourite). Linkin Park, Hybrid Theory. Alternative Metal (very similar to grunge to be honest). Bands like Alice in Chains fit this subgenre. Black Metal (not a fan of this genre myself but has a huge following). Give a listen to Emperor: IX Equilibrium. Darkthrone is another example and there's quite a few of their tracks I like. Celtic Frost, Immortal, Bathory are more well known black metal bands. Death Metal (tends to have the classic cookie monster vocal style). Bands like Cannibal Corpse, Suffocation and Deicide fit this genre. I'd recommend Suffocation's self titled album. Great listen back to front. Groove Metal (probably the sub genre that really got me into listening to and wanting to explore metal further than the nu metal that was popular when I was growing up). This is really defined by chugging riffs that have a real groove to them and make you want to move. Bands such as Lamb of God fit this genre well. Doom Metal (often characterised by slow droning chords and even lower tunings, although drone is arguably its own subgenre). This is a genre Black Sabbath is directly responsible for. See Sunn O))) and Earth. Industrial Metal was popular in the 90s along with Nu Metal. Bands like White Zombie (Rob Zombie), Rammstein, Fear Factory and Marilyn Mason are the most famous. Metalcore (this is more 2000s now and blends elements of death metal with punk and rock). Bands such as Killswitch Engage pioneered this subgenre. Other popular examples include Atreyu, Trivium and Bullet for My Valentine. Symphonic Metal (uses orchestral elements). See Nightwish, Within Temptation. Power Metal and Speed Metal. See DragonForce. Stoner Metal (and psychedelic metal, use often slow riffs like doom but have a more cheerful tone (cheerful for metal) and generally have blues as an influence as well as using retro style vocals). Examples include Electric Wizard, Acid Witch, Uncle Acid and the Deadbeats, Cybernetic Witchcult. Progressive Metal (generally characterised as using a lot of elements common and uncommon in other metal genres and blending them as well as using odd time signatures, complex structures and all around songs that are designed to take the listener on a journey). Check out Gojira's From Mars to Sirius, anything from Tool and Opeth. I know I've left multi subgenres out, such as viking, pirate, folk etc. But it's already an essay. Happy to discuss it further and for anyone else to add in their opinions/correct me if you think I'm wrong etc. It's a discussion. Enjoy the metal.
I would argue that things like pirate and viking metal all fall into either power or folk metal or maybe a blend of the two, they're mostly different thematically and don't differentiate themselves enough musically to be their own subgenre.
"See DragonForce" Don't do this to yourself. See Helloween, Gamma Ray, Blind Guardian, Edguy, Angra, Hammerfall, Stratovarius, Sonata Arctica.... Anything but DragonForce.
Pirate, Viking, Cowboy, etc are all theme metal. They don't typically share anything but having a theme, Alestorm vs Sabaton for instance have little in common.
The most problem my rap friends have with metal and rock, is the length of the song. Most of the songs my friends listen can hardly cross mark of 3 minutes. And I can listen to the song on repeat that is 13 minutes. Plus my friends(don’t have anyone irl listening to metal and rock) always insulting my music taste and making excuses for nothing. It’s really upsetting me(
13 minutes? Psshaaw! *Laughs in doom metal* In all seriousness though, don't take what people say about your music taste seriously. Because in reality, in terms of preferences and music taste, it's all subjective.
Excuse the arrogance but They are smooth-brained basic bitches who struggle to understand musical story telling and/or experiences and also have seizures if a lyric in a MINUTE long song features more than three syllables. I like some rap if that doesn’t make me any less arrogant
The 80s was like The 2000s hip hop height popularity. A good half of the 80s had a more materialistic thinking sound and a way of flaunting their style. The 90s was the era of grit and grunge in both genres. And the early 2000s was when the energy drink DAD ROCK metal stuff started.
If you're looking for more newer stuff, I'd recommend Periphery, Pall bearer, Baroness, Code orange, Nails, Vektor, and Thank you scientist ( I reccomend this in particular as they blend jazz in a weird way with metal to the point where it sounds more like the Mars Volta). For more older(not too old) stuff, Dopethrone, Agalloch (highly reccomend listening to The Mantle), Opeth, Bathory, Death, Voivod and Celtic Frost.
All great choices expect periphery(one of my favs btw), i know a lot of older metal fans, and death/black metal fans that truly despise that band for his singing style. It's almost like the style of vocals is a mix between pop and metalcore (the emo kind). People should keep an open mind if they don't like the more cringy emo metalcore stuff. Atleast with peripherys older records.
"I know nothing about heavy metal" yeah we can tell. Heavy metal is just a subgenre of metal afterall. Also, dont ever listen to a metalheads opinion, cause everyone has their own opinion what is trve and what isnt.
Some Metal Heads wanted to Lynch Rob Zombie for being in a picture with Babymetal. You don't have to be a guy to make Metal and there are quite a few fantastic women metal singers and musicians. Check out Lovebites all of their songs are top metal songs.
@@gerardcote8391 What about Arch Enemy, Jinjer, Beyond the Black, Doro Pesch, Nightwish, Epice, Heilung... and so many more, there are many Bands with women singing/fronting, and many of them are insanely good.
Some personal favorites: Judas Priest- Defenders of the Faith Black Sabbath- S/T Iron Maiden- Killers Megadeth- Peace Sells King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard- Infest the Rat's Nest Death- Symbolic Venom- Welcome to Hell Bruce Dickinson- The Chemical Wedding Rainbow- Rising (Not sure if this one counts as metal) Rage Against the Machine- S/T Lost Horizon- A Flame to the Ground Beneath DIO- Holy Diver Nile- Annihilation of the Wicked
Damn man you need to listen to more of what Korn has to offer, and DEFINITELY classic Deftones.. but I do like those newer bands, you gotta delve deeper into their works. Kinda hurts me to hear 90s and early 2000s bands being thrown under the bus.. that’s my childhood and still a part of my adult life. Please reconsider checking them out more.
I'm mainly a hip hop and Indie/Alternative guy myself but I've always liked System of a Down, especially Toxicity. I think its mainly because that album covers topics about problems with America similarly to a lot of my favorite hip hop songs. Plus, I love how bipolar each song is, making the whole album feel like a rollercoaster ride of sorts.
Well, nothing well ever really beat their first record. If you didn't listened to it, I highly reccomend it. The punk influences, the rawness, the vocal delivery, the mixing, the tracklist.... I do not listen to Toxicity no more.
@@bexiemounne7781 I'm a mezmerize kinda person myself. Immense range of influences among the tracks, from techno to reggae. The rest of the album's have one or two tracks I dislike but that has literally none.
Aveneged Sevenfold is like My Chemical Romance for me: Loved them when I was 15 and an angsty teenager, cringed at myself for a few years, and loved them again now for the nostalgia... Also,. try Ensiferum - Victory Songs - Finland has the most metal bands per captita and this album is what got me into the folk/melodic death metal stuff
Guns n Roses were never "heavy metal", it is more accurate to say that they were "ugly LA hard rock", a contrast to the "pretty boy" hard rock (aka Glam) like Def Leppard, Bon Jovi, Cinderella, Poison, Warrant, etc, that dominated at the time.
yes these bands arent like metal today, but they are definitely (more GNR then AC/DC) building blocks that led to the metal we know today. Although GNR isn’t like metal today, back then they were harder and more harsh then others. Making them stand out.
I feel like everyone who's trying to get into metal should start out with Metallica, it's always a good starter and it'll most likely be your first favorite metal band. After a few weeks, you'll get more into intense bands. I was a MASSIVE fan of Metallica for a good month until I started to listen to a ton of Slayer and Venom, or anything Death and Black metal in general. Now I can't really listen to Metallica as I could before because it's not as heavy and/or intense as what I listen to now.
Well I'd recommend to start more with System Of A Down if you want to get use to heavy heavy stuff faster and then work your down to black metal as fast as possible and really explore the metal genres more, but Metallica is good if you want to take your time exploring metal
Even though it wasn't received the greatest, Slipknots the Gray Chapter is in my opinion a really good starting point, it's not to heavy but has a couple songs that show the slipknot flare
Thanks for all the recommendations & clarifications for things I didn't understand everybody!! Super helpful. I really appreciate it. P.S. super embarrassing that I've been mis-reading "Megadeth" as "Megadeath" this whole time lmao
System of a Down, Mastodon, and Dio seem to be the front runners for suggestions rn 🤝
you are gonna have so many comment with 50 bands that you “must” listen. but yeah soad is great also to get a general idea just listen to spotify metal playlists, you will get the hits and see what sounds you like
Pre-emptive defense nice, was coming here to comment Megadeath lol
@@AlfoMedia For Dio I'd recommend Rainbow's Rising as well, as he sang lead over that. It also has Ritchie Blackmore the lead guitarist for Deep Purple another very early band
I'll love to see you listen to Emperor - In the Nightside Eclipse and Bathory - Under the Sign of the Black Mark. Two classics of the black metal that would be a perfect introduction to the genre.
"I'm not scared of this genre anymore" - a man who hasn't touched black metal yet.
Helios XII exactly what I was thinking when he said that haha
Lol the first time listening to Gorgoroth, Deathspell Omega, and Blut Aus Nord were definitely some experiences for me..
Helios XII I've been a metal head since 7th grade. I still steer clear of black metal.
Wait till he finds out about grindcore
That sunbather stuff comes near it
Alfo: *Spells Megadeth like Megadeath*
Everybody: So you have chosen, Deth
Actually he chose death
@@blueroses7468 You ruined the joke!
Not going to lie when I was trying to get into Megadeth I spelled it Megadeath
@@blueroses7468 did he do that?
*voice of the soul intensifies*
Started on Ozzy Osbourne’s birthday. That’s a pretty metal way to begin
my birthday too!!
Vchicago lmao no one asked hahahahaha
@@talan4493 no u
@@talan4493 just f off
posted the day ordinary man (his new album) was released as well
As a metal head, I think that to understand metal fully, you need to understand metal sub-genres
Absolutely. For example I think that Power Metal (my favourite subgenre, tbf) is one of the best places to start. It's cleaner, but still clearly metal and can get really rough at times. I also like nu metal, but I don't think it's the best place to start.
facts
not really. I don't need to understand anything but some history to understand sabaton
I don't need to understand anything to understand Alestorm, I just need to like pirates
Babymetal is just interesting to listen to
and Gloryhammer, the only thing you need is imagination and love of fantasy
Absolutely agree Aidan.
Started with black metal 💀
Hah, that's cute, he thinks there is any consensus at all in the metal community
Every Metal head thinks that what he like is "Real Metal" and everything else isn't Metal.
Lol Internet definition of Metal being loud. Mighty pathetic non technical definition - the author of that definition could have simply wrote any music I don't like.
@@gerardcote8391 thats not always the case, thats the way elitists think, normal metalheads just like what they like and move on
Ginger, I understand your sentiment. Many like what they like but the most vocal like what they like and think that other's opinions are wrong. Personally I like Power Metal, Symphonic Metal, some Thrash, and didn't like the 90s metal at all. I have no problem with people who do, only those that think Black Metal and Death metal are the only metal.
And it is unfortunate that most people who don't like metal or never listen to it assume the worst negative stereotypes about metal heads from the worst examples of fans of those 2 genres.
My personal view of music is that if the music is good and the there is a good vocalists and good lyrics then I will listen to it. For an example I like old Metallica because they have good lyrics and good song structure. I don't like Megadeth, mostly because I can't stand the singer's voice, Slayer is just terrible, except the album South of Heaven. I don't like Death Metal as a genre but Jinger has some excellent musicianship and song writing, I could just do without the death growling parts. I like complexity in music, and that includes the ranges of instruments and vocals. I come from listening to classical music as a child and complex orchestration appeals to me. Vocalist with great ranges is important, as well as musicians that explore the full range of their instruments.
@@gerardcote8391 now that is controversial, Megadeth i understand not liking, i personally love them but mustaines voice can be a bit shit sometimes, i have the same view on Anthrax, Slayer is intentionally chaotic, thats why they are so loved because they pretty much gave birth to bands like sepultura and testament. Jinjer is ok but i dont like them much because of the style, not because ginger. What some might call tech death is a good place to get into the death growl sound bands like Gojira have incredible musicianship and the singer screams but its still coherent, the same with extreme metal bands like Meshuggah, who are incredible musically and the vocalists has his own sound. unfortunately a lot of metal has the issue of just trying to be the heaviest and the fastest and that takes away from the sound.
from what you describe i imagine you would like bands like opeth and dream theater if you dont already listen to them.
Hahahaaa
When has Guns N' Roses and AC/DC ever classified as Metal lmao, I love them both but they’re Hard Rock plain and simple
guns is hair metal tho
@@syrionband gnr isn't quite "metal" altho their "use your illusions albums were kinda heavy.
@@juuzousuzuya24 they have the characteristics of a hair or a glam metal band but I can see why some people call them hard rock, not a fan of them tho so I might be biast
"Dont damn me" is kinda heavy metal
@@syrionband hair metal is far from heavy metal and thrash which is what metal has become known for
I love how he became a metal elitist in just 40 days
I hate how he became an elitist in 40 days. I like classic metal too, but the constant need to bash current artists solely for the reason they weren't born 30-40 yrs back seems absurd.
Baivab Jena yeah I know, It was a joke and I’m with you on that, I for one love both old and new metal and always have
Besides, he didn’t actively bash the newer bands, he just said he didn’t vibe with it too much
LMAO
sven tutt i doubt he would like them i do enjoy some black metal but drath metal is just trash to me and its the reason people think metal is “only screaming lul”
You have my respect. As a metalhead, I can respect someone who knows nothing wanting to get the knowledge.
It's a trippy journey through many sub-genras, as well as the history of the electric guitar.
That is the exact reason I'm watching this. I know very very little about metal and its subgeneras. I like classic rock and hip hop, but am trying to learn about Metal. I bought my first metal vinyl Metallica's Master of Puppets. I was told that was a good jumping off point. I do like the sounds of the 80s metal over some of the new stuff I've listened to. Maybe that is where everyone starts. I just don't like the growling and incoherent vocals lots of metal bands have.
Amen
"the speed seems like a big factor too"
*stoner metal would like to know your location*
The Sword might really be my favorite band, when I don't really know any other stoner band. I like their rawness. D'you have any recomendations pal?
@@bexiemounne7781 I don't really listen to a lot of stoner metal, but i could recommend DOWN. With Phil Anselmo being the vocalist, i think you'll like it, it's also pretty easy to listen to (not overwhelming and shit like that). \m/
Sleep is probably the best band ever when I'm high, nearly impossible to enjoy when I'm sober
*Sun O))) wants to know your location*
Doom Metal is awesome
Slayer: Thrash with a darker content
Amon Amarth: Melodic death metal about a lot of viking stuff
Rammstein: You either like it or you don’t, just give it a whirl
Black Label Society: trust me on this one, some stuff is metal but Zakk Wylde likes his blues
Body Count: Ice-T likes metal
GWAR: it seems hokey and over the top, but necessary
Killswitch Engage: I’m not big on metalcore but Howard Jones. Any of their work with Howard Jones
Dio: Ronnie James Dio. If Black Sabbath had a more Dungeons and Dragons feel.
Motörhead: Lemmy. Closer to punk than metal, but one of Metallica’s favorite bands
Tool: Lateralus
Venom: another band from the transitional hard rock to heavy metal era
Sabaton: anthemic power metal and a lesson in military history
vulcan1358 “Tool: Lateralus” well said
THROUGH THE GATES IF HELL, AS WE MAKE OUR WAY TO HEAVEN, THOUGH THE NAZI LIIIINES, PRIMO VICTORIA!
Amon Amarth is viking metal
@@osmacar5331 well said my friend
@@cockixxon6308 They actually don't like to be classified as viking metal.
I find it kind of funny how you, coming from a hip hop background, dislike bands like Korn and Slipknot, who have a clear hip hop influence.
Lot of the time bands like that come off as corny.
No pun intended.
Because they're painfully forced.
because they can't hip hop
Doesn't mean he has to like it
Eh, korn have more of a groove influence.
Slipknot definitely have a hip hop influence but they pull from a lot of places. Its mostly Corey's vocal flow and delivery on clean vocals and sid on the turntables. Jim is more akin to a jazz guitarist, where mick is more thrash-esque. Paul and joey have a lot of groove.
One of the most confusing things about getting into metal for the first time is the fact that metal has so many different subgenres and they sound different. So one sound doesn't define the genre as a whole.
Korn, slipknot, disturbed, and all of them are part of a “Nu Metal” group that korn practically created
Slipknot is much more than that
As far as the Nu Metal genre goes, would it be safe to say that Faith No More, "Roots" by Sepultura, or Pantera with their groove play a role in the start of Nu Metal?
Brad Pritt definitely a role. I know the guys in korn were big panthers fans
Ancient Darkness I’d agree. I categorized them here because a lot of people that listen to slipknot listen to these kinds of groups
@@is_c_h_a_i_r fair enough
Slipknot is one if those bands that you either vibe with or don't. If you know their backstory it really helps, because they're a band that a lot of people relate to.
i agree. personally i think IOWA is their best album partially because of what happened behind the scenes and how they managed to power through it.
Yasss
I don’t mind their music, they have really sad backstories. But I just prefer classic metal. i.e Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, Megadeth and Slayer too. Mötley Crüe if you wanna count them too
Iowa hooked me into metal in general. The pure nihilism of that album was perfect for angsty 15 year old me just entering highschool. Still go back to that album from time to time brings back rushes of memories.
I’ve gone through just about the entire discography and I don’t like 99% of SlipKnot but Physcosocial is so fucking fun idk why
Me: *sees that Megadeth's name is spelled wrong*
My objectively bias metalhead heart: calm down....CALM DOWN, JUST BREATH, IT'S HIS FIRST TIIIIIIIIME!!!
RJEIDHSJDNSJDKDKDKSDNAHA
He called the black album Metallica's self entitled album
@@Titopaivag3 Wellll, the black album was trash, so, he could have just called it that, I would have been fine with it.
Yes, take a deep breth and calm down.
same though
As a hip hop fan, this albums got me into metal, now I enjoy metal more and more
Megadeth - Rust In Peace
Metallica- Kill Em All
Sleep - Dopesmoker
Electrical Wizard - Dopethrone
Death - Human / Leprosy
Burzum - Filosofem
Opeth - Blackwater Park
Burzum ah a man of culture
fK metal
Nice to see Burzum in there
To people interested in metal I usually recommend stuff like Sabaton or Bloodywood ... you can get them with the feels and expose them to the harder stuff depending on the song
@@PeoplecallmeLucifer I kinda started of with cannibal corpse
The newer bands you didn’t like are actually all huge bands within their respective sub-genres. “Old heads” hate them, but they all brought something new to the table, which is why they all still have huge fanbases and sell out arenas everywhere. Unfortunately, metal as a whole has too many elitist fans that spread hate, rather than just saying it’s not for them.
Well said!
sad but trueUEEEEE
I'm about to be destroyed. I don't like slayer, Black Sabbath, or iron maiden and I have been a metal head my whole life. They just never did anything for me.
@@xero1xr Destroyed ? Well, that would be a shame. I don't like Slayer either, the other two I like but mostly because me and my brother learned our instruments and music in general listening to them amongst other bands. It's all about tastes and colors and ways you connected with things throughout your life.
Ziggy's 100% right, too much elitists. That goes for everything musical but metal has the loudest of them all and sadly enough I've had more constructive discussions about music with country enthusiasts or hihopheads than metalheads for that very reason.
"If you're thrashmetal you can't be core, if you're core you're not a real heavy but if you like heavy you can't like death or glam [...]
... and God forbid you like metal fusioned with anything else cause that's worse than murder or smth. It's all a shame...
@@FoxyHxCMacfly that's what I meant by destroyed. I figured the elitists would come after me for my blasphemy lol
Fun fact: Megadeth is a technical term that’s used to measure number of casualties caused by a nuclear bomb. 1 Megadeth = 1 million deaths via nuclear bomb.
Actually it's mega dumb
Its megadeath Dave Just tossed away the "a" because its cooler without it
I hear a meganerd
@@aideneberhardt6871 meganrd
And he also spelt it ‘megadeath’ in the video which is incorrect....sorry to be that guy but the metalhead inside me got triggered at this for some reason
You gotta start off with something casual and easy to get into like Infant Annihilator for example.
Holy shit, don´t scare him right away. :D
Infant Annihilator is a bit weak. I would say The Violation by Fleshgod Apocalypse is a better start for something casual
This made me lol. The new album is sick as shit
U Wot M8? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
IA is a good start for something casual but I'd say listen to some Benighted if you're looking to just kick your feet up and relax.
Tool and Opeth are two absolute must metal bands to try out. Tool's 'Lateralus' and Opeth's 'Ghost Reveries' are two fantastic albums.
Lateralus, huh? It would seem sir that you have been infected with, "Good Taste." I'm (not) so sorry to say, there is no cure.
I love Tool music but they're not metal, even musicians from Tool said that, it's more like prog rock than metal
@@nightshade3782 I have listened to all Tool albums countless times and imo they are more prog metal than prog rock. Prog rock tends to be even more experimental
All Prog fans love at least one of those two
@@jussitanska8279 yeah, I know but Tool is something between prog rock and prog metal, they not straight metal band and they even don't classificate themselves as metal
6:34 too much going on? wait till he finds out about Dream Theater
Wait until he hears octavarium
Bruh he said «that’s not the case here at all»..
@@jameshatfield7165 exactly, wait till he hears Dream Theater...
Yeah or almost any prog, fusion or symphonic band.
Wait till he finds Between the buried and me
Don’t forget to listen to Grunge. It’s not metal, but it’s our little cousin that died young but left an impact in our hearts.
I love this. perfect description of grunge lmaoo
it killed metal tho
That really is a beautiful way to describe grunge
Grunge is complete ass full of Whining bitches
@@Yeoldepube exactly
90s: Death, Pantera
20s: System of a Down
Also check Gojira
he should've just checked Cowboys from hell other than vulgar display of power
@@krabbypatty849 he should've checked both :)
Dexter vortex sungte your a toilet
Oh yes Gojira is fantastic. Especially Flying Whales but the whole album and their other songs too are just a treat.
The 90s own Mayhem and CC
Motörhead directly inspired Metallica so listening to them is a must in my book if you love Metallica
"They might be niche sub-genre's" - Oh boy... he said the G word
Blackened synphonic death metal
My favourite has to be post industrial blackened folk power death metal
@@aryan5695 thats great, but I think Melodic blackened symphonic speed death metal
i like heavy bands like slipknot, but death metal is to heavy and vulger for me.
My favourite one is nedal.
Me, a metalhead: there is no album we unanimously agree upon
“Most seemed to say master of puppets”
...... damn, you won this time
Injustice for all was better
I prefered kill em all
MoP is very insane in first listen, but since it's very overplayed in my playlist i get kinda bored
Vio-Lence - Eternal Nightmare. Probably the best Thrash album ever made. Never been a huge Metallica fan and Justice is their best work in my opinion.
Alief Fauzan thecat battery always does it for me, purely for the intro
90's - Pantera, Emperor, Darkthrone, Blind Guardian, Iced Earth.
2000's - Lamb of God, Gojira, Strapping Young Lad/Devin Townsend Project, Septicflesh, Wintersun.
Everything with Devin Townsend is good, the guy is a genius.
Don't you dare forget Opeth
@@bulletfaceLP devin is beastly.
@@chaosbringer2752 Dude Opeth is just great
Oh shit yeah Devin Townsend, I always think of him as a mad scientist of metal
I love it when someone has an open mind enough to make an effort to really explore something new. This was a cool video!
Ayee Gojira. Hell yeah
The album that made me a metal head is DIO - HOLY DIVER, i think it's a perfect introduction to the genre
I love holy diver, the song, its one of my favourite metal songs, but i always questioned if the rest was metal. It sounded too soft.
@@s_for_short2400 it is the sound of traditional heavy metal tho.
slipknot - subliminal verses, although i wasn’t born when the album come out so many songs played on the rock channels on tv and my mum was a big fan during the early 2010s
@@s_for_short2400 go listen to the song stand Up and shout then get back to me.
as a huge metal head, i personally think the black album is a great introduction into heavy metal
There is a documentary called Metal: A Headbangers Journey that you should check out. It could be helpful understanding the history of metal and it’s evolution
Yeah! Also there’s a full version of Dio’s interview which was released on RUclips by “Headbangers” creator
“the one album that everyone seems to like is Master of Puppets-“ *audible cheering*
"Everything is super fast."
Doom metal: 👁👄👁
This was so delightful I really wish he would do an update. Its so much fun to watch someone start getting into something you're passionate about!
Yeah I'd love to see if he burst his death metal cherry and which band got him into it.
@@aaradicatin12 yea i can imagine it will be something more mellow like death or obituary
Never heard of Guns 'n Roses as a metal band, being a metalhead.
Pieter K. Slash is more of the metal in GnR
Maybe glam or hair metal idk
They were thrown in the metal pile by the general population a long time ago, as the hard rock/metal differences weren't that clear back then. They're definitely harder than average rock but not metal in my book.
I'd say most of Deep Purple and Led Zeppelin's discography wouldn't fit in our contemporary definition of metal either, but back when they released it everything was softer and there was no way to guess how hard metal would become.
I mean the "earliest" example was Helter Skelter by The Beatles of all people so
Aren’t they a t-shirt brand?
Hard rock is more like it honestly
Also, the name of the band Megadeth comes from the term "megadeath" meaning "one million deaths". It's a term coined to describe the awesome destructive power of nuclear warheads. So the death toll of a nuclear war would be measured in megadeaths.
You have to try Gojira, I think they are essential for getting people into heavier stuff. They are fuckin amazing
Yeah I agree completely. Flying Whales was the first song I actually loved that didn't have clean vocals
I just went in with cannibal corpse as like my first metal band I listened to and they are still one of my favorites but I get where you are coming from with Gojira because I revisited them yesterday and they are probably better if you want to into it more easily
I love them
Metal is just such a HUGE and differentiated genre. It takes a lot of time and patience to dig in and all. Also the appreciation comes with time, at first something might not sound even like music, but after a bit you begin to understand it and it all ties together, forcing you to love it.
I think some interesting bands to check out would be Behemoth, Gojira, and maybe even push it further with death metal and bands like Fit for an autopsy or Thy art is murder.
One of my favourite bands is Meshuggah, but that's a whole different and unique thing, which takes time to appreciate, more than anything i have ever listened to.
Well said! Back when I was younger, I used to only listen to EDM and dubstep and whatever was on the radio, like your typical 10 year old. It wasn’t until I started playing guitar and my mom introduced me to bands like Tool, Filter and Foo Fighters that I got into actual BANDS. My dad then introduced me to Metallica, Pantera and a bunch of 80’s bands. This is when it truly started for me. As I learned guitar, I started listening to music more for the MUSIC aspect, but still hated scream vocals. It was then when I got into Fit for a King and Wage War, and I started to warm up to screaming. Ever since then, I’ve been more and more into it, to the point where Thy Art is Murder, Fit for an Autopsy, Chelsea Grin and Shadow of Intent are among my top favorite bands, mainly BECAUSE of the harsh vocals. I love it now. I still listen to tamer metalcore bands (Northlane being my favorite band of all time, along with Silent Planet, Invent, Animate, Currents and Thornhill), and I also love 90’s alternative, 80’s rock, jazz, blues, 40s-50s, and even classical. I am so glad I opened up to new music, because now I couldn’t be happier with my taste in music. I wish others would do the same and stop backing the whole mumble rap trend nowadays.
I started listening with power metal and never thought I'd get into much else. Now some of my favorite bands are doom and death metal. Still like power metal though
in my honest opinion AC/DC and Guns n’ roses are hard rock, tho it’s “heavy” it doesn’t have the same type of chugging, complexity, and speed that metal bands have, guns n’ roses and ac/dc in the 80s had lots of commercial appeal and were very popular. metal was definitely a more underground thing
I call 80s stuff dust metal
Influential for sure but yeah totally agree, hard rock. We just have to acknowledge that influence they had in both transitioning people to heavier music and the challenge in becoming better guitarists and more complex players.
I’ve never heard anyone call them metal, only hard rock😂
I think the reason tose bands get often lumped into metal, is that you won't get shit from the "real" metal fans for liking them.
Metal was literally the most popular genre of the 90s, after the mid 80s it was definitely not underground. Although there were the purists and snobs fans, in interviews of bands like Metalica you clearly see the bands themselves weren't even close to match the elitism of the fans, and spoke nicely about some glam or other popular metal bands. And even the "serious" metal bands were as much "posers" with their forced angry faces and rebel persona, as the ones that metal heads derided just because those bands had popular appeal. Pop bands just didn't fake it as well and played "happier" songs using major scales which was a give away lol
I think the album Ride the Lightning is actually better then Master of Puppets personally
Kaleb Madron I honestly thought I was the only one who thought that as well. Love both albums, but Ride the Lightning as a whole does it more for me
Justice is the best metallica album..
salem In it's current state, it's a hollow shell of what was meant to be before Lars got his hands on the mixing. Personally, I think of it as their 4th best album, simply due to the mixing issue.
agreed
@@Emolga2225 I think that the mix fits the record very well even though I'm a bass player and I love to hear bass.. I think that the lack of low end in Justice makes it sound really unique.
You have my utmost respect for being honest and for wanting to get knowledge
Yeah so the four bands you mentioned towards the end... Yeah don't worry about them. Avenged Sevenfold's guitarist has a lot of respect to his name, but he's the only standout (in my eyes anyway). Korn and Slipknot are fairly well respected for creating and popularising respectively the sub genre of Nu Metal, but not for many other reasons, seeing as nu metal is one of the most hated subgenres due to bands like Disturbed, Papa Roach etc (System of a Down sometimes get unfairly grouped into Nu Metal).
As for where to go from here, definitely try System of a Down, very funny and wacky at times, but also really catchy and serious at points (melon have their sophomore album a classic review). I'd also say maybe branch out into the metalcore/ mathcore genres(Deep Cuts has a video on getting into Mathcore). There came a point when hardcore punk and metal crossed over in the 90s and so bands like The Dillinger Escape Plan, Converge, Botch from that era are worth a listen, although can be difficult to deal with the vocals, so maybe try some of Dillinger's later albums like One of Us Is The Killer or Ire works for something more experimental at points. This particular brand of more high octane metalcore (steer clear of the emo branded metalcore, it can be pretty cringy and also not really listened to by metalheads, but more by the emo scene and from what I gather, you seem to want the more authentic experience of metal) really prepared me for even more intense extreme genres.
Sorry if this is a bit long but I really empathised with your intro. I grew up in an indie, alt rock and pop house, and I still love those genres, but I ended up being the one to introduce myself to metal, and honestly I find it so funny but also slightly heartbreaking for me when I see "metal families" where the entire family of people are all wearing slayer shirts and have long hair and piercings (true story). Hopefully I can help and havent come across too snobby or elitist :)
not snobby/elitist at all! thanks for the suggestions!!
Definitely a good way to go. Metalcore/Mathcore is def a good path into the more abrasive stuff. Converge’s Jane Doe took me probably 10+ listens before I really began to love it. Still can’t understand what he’s saying though lol
Yes, converge and Dillinger all the way.
@@AlfoMedia if you wanna get into emo music feel free to dm me for what music you should check out
Deep Cuts is a channel dedicated to music, for lovers of music
System of a down is pretty great for people who start listening to metal
Komornik5872 10/10 discography
Agreed, fantastic artist to start with
They were the first metal band ive listened to, and I love them so much. Their first album is the best.
Komornik5872 Honestly yeah, Toxicity is the first Metal Album that I was able to play all the way through. Now, I find myself listening to other Metal Bands while still not knowing too much about the genre 😂
Soad is my My first metal band that I listen :(
Something to know about heavy metal is that it has like a million different sub genres, thrash metal, doom metal, death metal etc. I think it would make for an interesting series if you listened and investigated to all these different sub genres
Yeah, if I had a pound for every "progressive alternative vegetarian brutal black-gazecore joke...
doom metal is one of the easiest sub genres to get into as a hip hop fan imo.
@@doctapeppur1900 Any relation to MF Doom?
@@des0163 haha, nah. it's slower, more instrumental, more downtempo metal. MF Doom is a legend tho
@@doctapeppur1900 I love MF Doom, and Doom metal is my favorite metal subgenre. Lol
When he said he liked ghost I started fearing for his life
I'm team Ghost all the way. I would never say they represent metal, but for what they are, they're pretty good. They're like pop-metal parody, a guilty pleasure.
Wtf? How is Ghost not metal? They literally sound like a late 60's metal band.
at least it wasn't nickleback
First two albums can be considered as metal-ish but since Meliora, their sound got softer and with Prequelle they just became a rockpop shit band
Ghost is awesome
Here a few recommendations :
Progressive Metal:
Mastodon - Crack the Skye (personal favourite )
Tool - Lateralus
Gojira - From Mars to Sirius
Stoner/Doom Metal:
Electric Wizard - Dopethrone
Kyuss - Welcome to Sky Valley
Should hopefully be enough for now, enjoy the journey :)
Great list here!
All of those albums are amazing
Good choices
Sleep - Dopesmoker
Melvins - Houdini is a personal fav doom metal album
The whole point of metal is that there's a lot of different genres, power metal and death metal are nearly opposites in the metal spectrum, but still are classified as metal because of the overall evolution of metal. You just gotta dive deep on some of the more niche genres to really know what you wanna hear.
I can't wait for him to find grindcore, goregrind and pornogrind 😂
@@andrewfurey2999 Anime slam is fucking weird, it's decent but I am never showing anyone I know it
Hip Hop Fan tries metal:
Metal heads: *entered the chat*
edit: spelling
Alice in chains is considered as alternative metal and they’re my favourite band. They’re mainly considered grunge but alternative metal works.
ehhh, i disagree, dont get me wrong, AIC is dope but "mostly grunge with heavy metal influence" is a better way to describe them
They’re grunge with metal influence. Just like Nirvana were grunge with punk and Pearl Jam were grunge with rock.
@@Ballin4Vengeancesame for soundgarden. AiC seems more thrashy and SG more Sabbathy
AIC is great but too depressing hahaha, I feel a bit down after listening to them.
The three albums in history that actually started heavy metal as a genre
1. Black Sabbath-paranoid
2. Led Zeppelin-led zeppelin II
3. Deep Purple-in rock
You forgot motorhead
@@timothyness6695 no he didn't, Motorhead are awesome but the term Heavy Metal was coined about Led Zeppelin and Deep Purple, while Sabbath was the first to openly commit to it
Although I will say I think he picked out the wrong Deep Purple album, Machine head is way more important than In Rock
I prefer the less “thrashy” stuff, I prefer deep purple, led zeppelin and black sabbath for some reason
@@Dementat I picked In Rock because all of the three albums were released around the same time(69 to 70 era). They were the three albums at that time that popularized the heavy and aggressive style of sound.
I don’t like how people classify metal as heavy metal. Especially since heavy metal is one of the lightest sub genres of metal
Heavy metal is lighter than other metal. That's what I call irony.
Metal is the umbrella term; not heavy metal. Heavy metal refers to the traditional style played by Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Dio, Armored Saint, etc. This includes NWOBHM bands (Iron Maiden, Saxon, Tygers of Pan Tang, Diamond Head, Raven, etc), USPM (Manowar, Jag Panzer, Riot, Savatage, Omen, etc), and NWOTHM (Enforcer, Striker, Ambush, Night Demon, Eternal Champion, etc).
Heavy metal is my favourite style of metal. A lot of the "heavier" stuff is metal with punk touches which in my opinion makes it less fun. Trad chads for life!
@Dudeman Senior I'm crying in Rainbow (even if it became more pop after Ronnie James Dio left)...
@@nightjaronthegate the door is to the left, please leave and take my like
@@JustPuckinAround I'm on the other side of you haha. I'm big on punk, specifically hardcore. I like the thrashy, sludgy shit that doesn't sound all that great (not metalcore and other core subgenres though). I still recognize the impact that the traditional bands had though and the quality of their music. Respect your opinion broski
Death - The Sound of perseverance
Dying Fetus - Grotesque Implement
Slipknot - Self Titled
Lamb of God - Ashes of the wake
Behemoth - The Satanist
Bloodbath - Nightmares made flesh
The Slipknot self titled album might be the best for a hip hop head imo
Nevermind, he doesn’t like Slipknot lol
Whitechapel - This is Exile
Ah, a man of taste
Great albums but those are all going to be very harsh for someone who doesn't already like metal.
At the gates "slaughter of the soul", 1995. A must! Melodic death metal
“I’m not scared of this genre anymore” wait until your turn your back on Metallica and they hit you with saint anger, you’re not ready
He's going to be in for a shock.
No one tell him about Load's album cover!
XDXD
Saint Anger is like being constipated. I couldn't give a shit about it. Metallica stopped being worth the listen with And Justice For All
Or Cannibal Corpse
You should try Black Metal. It's solf,relaxing,heart-warming,inspiring,motivational,emotional etc. Believe me
Forgot to mention, infant annihilator would be nice to listen to
Yes forced gender reassignment is a beautiful song. I saranade the ladies with it.
I propose behemoth.
I recommend Mayhem, it's so relaxing that the singer is sleeping to this day :)
@@just_another_internet_man755 they even made an album using a photo of him sleeping, what a generous and lovely band
@@micsokoli4207 don't forget that the bassist helped the guitarist fall asslepp.
Megadeth: one million deaths -usually used as a unit in reference to nuclear warfare.
I'm a Deth fan and I genuinely didn't know that
14:39 Those bands like Korn, Slipknot, Disturbed, etc, only seemed like fads because the gatekeepers and critics hated it coz it was so new and created a new sound (nu metal), so they convinced all metal fans that they didn't count. So these bands had to change their style to make the gatekeepers happy.
But now all these bands are loved and respected by the fans, bands, and the gatekeepers.
Yeah they kinda lead him astray on that one. Every metalhead that I've ever known including myself appreciates all those bands.
Slipknot is still very popular today though
@@brooksmullen5426 I never said they weren't.
Thank you for defending them Nu metal is fun
It’s also that Nu-metal also mixed in some rap/hip-hop elements, be it thematically, sound-wise or vocally, so it might be a bit of a bridge between rap and metal. A lot of songs are basically rap with metal riffs under it
Guns 'n Roses don't live in "the Metal house", but they hang out and we think they're cool guys. They can crash on the couch, if they feel like it.
I have never heard such a perfect way of putting it before....thank you.
This guy.
Just... Just this guy.
Better with words than Hemingway
Agreed. Anyone else ever noticed how similar welcome to the jungle and cowboys from hell are? Maybe just in terms of rhythm. I mean for the sake of arguing it's almost the same genre. Almost.
Except Pantera is good
Not seeing or hearing Dio here makes me kinda sad
Dio was and is the best metal vocalist in the history of the genre. Those who know Ronnie, know what's up. Everything he did was so metal.
True 🤘🤘
Well of course we didn't. Kinda hard to see or hear DIO in stopped time.
He's one of the best artists to get into metal, specially if you're into pop. I have some friends who are more into pop and they tended to enjoy his first 2 albums. The dude knew how to write an enjoyable song
Omg Holy Diver by Dio is one of my favorite songs ever
When he types out the second A in megadeth...
I felt that
big oof
It felt like a punch in the balls
I would really recommend the industrial genre. Ministry, Nine Inch Nails, Einstruzende Neubaten, Pailhead, Lard, Revolting Cocks, Skinny Puppy, KMFDM, Foetus and others. The blend of electronic, metal, and noise was my 90s sound.
I know you didn’t purposely exclude Rammstein for the Industrial side of metal
Industrial is so cool, skinny puppy sounded like nothing else I had ever heard when I found them
Hell yes!
NIN has my upvote
Glad to see Revolting Cocks + Rammstein. Some of the industrial samples in Pop Will Eat Its Self are great too
These should be your next stops.
Death - Human
Death - Symbolic
Cynic - Focus
Pantera - Cowboys From Hell
Systerm of a Down - Self Titled
Systerm of a Down - Toxicity
Tool - Aenima
Tool - Lateralus
Judas Priest - Painkiller
Judas Priest - Sad Wings of Destiny
Definitely some good choices there!
I would recommend ever Death album.
Yea he should have listened to cowboys from hell instead of vulgar
Oh add in opeth's in Claude veneume and watershed
While I don't know much about the first 2 bands, everything else on here is great, I think if you’re gonna listen to System's first 2, he might as well listen to Mesmerize and Hypnotize which IMO are their masterpieces, Tool and Dream Theater are probably the most mind blowing metal acts I’ve ever heard so Tool definitely belongs here
"Metal: a Headbanger's Journey" is the documentary *YOU NEED* ! Trust me. The Metal world goes above and beyond anything you mentioned here. We live in a golden age of metal. No, seriously. It may not be on the radio, but Metal has never been this interesting or diverse. Welcome! ♥
(Seriously watch that doc)
That one person is right !
I agree. There’s TOO many sub genres and it’ll get overwhelming for a new person.
I second this! I hope he sees this and watches it!
I know you're new to the genre and all of these amazing albums, but you almost fucking killed me when you spelt megadeth like "megaDEATH"
Also, some recommendations:
Thrash
Slayer - Raining Blood
Anthrax - Among The Living
Kreator - Coma Of Souls
Testament - The Legacy
Suicidal Tendencies - Lights, Camera, Revolution
Sepultura - Arise
Death metal (heavier thrash with harsher vocals)
Death - Human
Death - Symbolic
Morbid Angel - Alters Of Madness
At The Gates - Slaughter Of The Soul
Carcass - Heartwork
Entombed - Left Hand Path
Bolt Thrower - For Victory
Black Metal (very abrasive and raw. Its designed to be that way. Also, tread VERY carefully. Some black metal fans are very intense and defensive of the genre. If you at all try to say why you don't like the genre, they will tear you a new one)
Mayhem - Deathcrush
Emperor - In The Nightside Eclipse
Darkthrone - Transilvanian Hunger
Bathory - Under The Sign Of The Black Mark
Dissection - Storm Of The Lights Bane
Doom Metal (heavy metal but slower and more melancholy. Can have both clean and extreme vocals)
Candle mass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus
Type O Negative - Bloody Kisses
Sleep - Holy Mountain
Electric Wizard - Dopethrone
Bell Witch - Mirror Reaper
Progressive Metal (pushes the boundaries of metal in terms of technicality instead of extremety, even though it can be extreme and borrow from other metal genres)
Dream Theater - Images And Words
Tool - Lateralus
Opeth - Blackwater Park
Mastodon - Crack The Skye
Gojira - From Mars To Sirius
Meshuggah - ObZen
Cynic - Focus
Metalcore (heavy metal fuzed with hardcore [a subgenre of punk and in a way, a cousin of thrash metal] once again tread very carefully. The elitists [oldheads for metal heads] absolutely HATE this genre)
Killswitch Engage - The End Of Heartache
Avenged Sevenfold - Waking The Fallen (probably heavier than the stuff you've heard by them)
Bullet For My Valentine - Scream Aim Fire
Bring Me The Horizon - Sempiternal
Deathcore (death metal fuzed together with hardcore and incorporates breakdowns. This is where a bunch of the modern metal is made)
Suicide Silence - The Cleansing
Thy Art Is Murder - Hate
Job For A Cowboy - Demonocracy
Whitechapel - Our Endless War
As Blood Runs Black - Allegience
Black Tongue - Born Hanged
Metallic Hardcore (literally hardcore bands that listen to and borrow more from metal than hardcore)
Code Orange - Forever
Code Orange - Underneath (literally only dropped a few weeks ago)
Converge - Jane Doe
Dillinger Escape Plan - Ire Works
Knocked Loose - A Different Shade Of Blue
Other (groove metal, industrial metal, power metal)
Machine Head - Burn My Eyes
Sepultura - Roots
Blind Guardian - Nightfall In Middle Earth
Sabaton - Heroes
Dragonforce - Inhuman Rampage
Rammstein - Mutter
Extreme Metal (exactly what you'd expect it to be. This is the heaviest, most aggressive and most brutal forms of music ever made. I only put this in here if you really wanted to challenge yourself because this would send any new comer running to the hills [yes, that was an iron maiden pun]. Have fun with these and yes, all of these band and album names are real)
Infant Annihilator - The Elysian Granderval Galleraich
NAILS - You Will Never Be One Of Us
Cattle Decapitation - Monolith Of Humanity
Cannibal Corpse - Tomb Of The Mutilated
Behemoth - The Satanist
Fleshgod Apocalypse - Agony
Suffocation - Effigy Of The Forgotten
Carcass - Symphonies Of Sickness
Devourment - Butcher The Weak
Best music of last decade. Last decade had a bunch of amazing releases from both old and new bands. I've put down 10 albums which I believe were the best of last decade. Some of these are going to be underground releases and pretty extreme but I fully believe that these albums best paint a picture of 2010s metal
Gojira - L'enfant Sauvage
Power Trip - Nightmare Logic
Deaf heaven - Sunbather
Horrendous - Ecdysis
Behemoth - The Satanist
Carcass - Surgical Steel
Bell Witch - Mirror Reaper
Code Orange - Forever
Mgla - Exercises In Futility
Cattle Decapitation - Death Atlas
Sorry for the long read but you're literally trying to cover 50 years of music history in the span of a few months. It's really not easy
replying to this a few months later but this list got me into metal! thank you so much, i'm now a prog metal superfan lmao
you really said a few suggestions and named every metal album
for a second I was worried Ecdysis was never going to show up on the list lol
Your list threatens my manhood
I recommend Death atlas over Monolith of Inhumanity
Great video. I’m a massive classic rock and metal fan. Cool to hear a actual opinion not some fake reaction.
A couple of rabbit hole recommendations:
Rammstein (German industrial metal)
Iron Maiden (classic British metal)
Power metal in general (usually high tempo and more classic sounding)
By rabbit hole, I mean just put on a playlist / album and just let it play.
One of the bands that solidified my love of metal was Sabaton, a Swedish power metal band that focuses on telling the stories of war.
When it comes to metal though, just take your time getting into it. It's a nearly endless genre of music that can easily overwhelm someone who's just starting on the journey. Hell, it took me around four years to finally start liking Slipknot.
Definitely check out Powerwolf.
@@shadowsinsomniacs9943 Powerwolf is one of my favs, Resurection by Erection and Army of the Night.
sabaton is great
@@sovietmachine528 Hell yeah they are!
The fact that you categorized Slayer, Metallica and Megadeth together made me very happy!
Get anthrax in there and we got us a big 4 tour!
@@andyb1653 hell yes!
If the band makes you hesitant about classifying then as metal than it’s probably not metal
I mean a lot of people would argue that even iron maiden are hard rock, I guess the line between classic metal and hard rock can get blurry at times
I dont know if thats true anymore. There used to be this whole purist deal but now things are so open I couldnt condense what metal today sounds like. Its more mindset than sound these days. Almost anything can be metal.
@@s_for_short2400 bruh
@@zsjb_ growing up at the time I would absolutely disagree and say iron maiden is the prototypical (original version of) heavy metal sounding band. Black Sabbath invented the sound that became heavy metal but was before the term existed so would probably have been called hard Rock. But not iron maiden.
@@Will_Wel there is zero doubt in my mind that maiden is metal, and sabbath too I'd say, but I'm pointing out that many people argue that the first real metal bands were thrash like Metallica and megadeth. I think that's utter bs tho, sabbath is the first metal band
I am African, and I love Avenged SevenFold.
My friends and neighbors don't get it.
They say black ppl shouldn't listen to rock music.
try introducing them to skinflint or ARKA'N ... I mean they are bands from different parts of Africa so it might convince them Rock and metal are for everyone
Remember Jimi Hendrix is a literal god of rock and electric guitarist, is not only black. But a real inspirational to many artist like me
@@AsteoEz I mean Hendrix basically uplifted the rock genre to a new level
man, thats complete fucking bullshit, they probably said the same things to Hendrix back in the day, now he's legendary status
Music is universal.
Opeth, Mastodon, Gojira, Tool, Katatonia, Between The Buried and Me, Be'lakor, Rivers of Nihil, Cult of Luna, Alcest, Behemoth, Pallbearer, Insomnium, Agalloch, Blood Incantation, Cynic, Devin Townsend, The Ocean, Zeal and Ardor...the list goes on and on! There are so many great modern bands. The classics are great, but if you are patient modern stuff will grow on you :) The current metal scene is diverse even
tho you need to go a little beyond what is mainstream to find gems ! Hope you continue your metal journey :) !
Can add Jinjer to the list as well
i wouldnt call tool metal Id put them more in an experimental alt rock category
@@gmobile6991 Tool is metal, obviously, but its progmetal and they are unique, but its hard sound without using the pentathonic scale, and screamings, makes Tool a great progressive METAL band. Also their lirycs are hard, complexe and tuff like metal lirycs, and also they try to make new sounds
Death,Sabaton
100% this list. A lot of progressive metal here and it is most likely some of the deepest metal you can find.
As a Hip Hop fan i'd suggest Rage Against The Machine as a great blender of rap and metal to start with
I heard about them but never listened before, I think Zack De La Rocha was a member and I liked him on the run the jewels albums. So I'll check them out
@@merthayaloglu1475 ruclips.net/video/Yppny2ZOpXg/видео.html
@@gab_gallard thanks
Just throwing it out there, if you don't mind bands a little bit heavier, Astroid Boys, and Deez Nuts are great for a hardcore/rap blend, and Enter Shikari for a more techno/hardcore style
Limpbizkit. Lol jk they suck.
"I wish I had a metalhead to explain if both groups are welcome, or if one group is more real than the other or something" *boy do we have the elitists for you*
Boris Katzmarzyk l o l, ac/dc and g&r arent metal tho. If elitists say korn isnt “trve” metal they can suck their moms dick
@@koffieverslaafde627 this is factual
RE4VER 😌
It isn't a matter of elitism nor a group of groups being "more metal" than another group of groups it's more of a matter of definition and classification of really what metal is.
It's like saying Run DMC's and Aerosmith's version of "Walk this way" is metal just because it uses guitars and has a guitar loop or saying that Death Grips are metal because they scream and use loud noises…
A metal song isn't only made up by loud noises, screams, a drum track and guitar, it's much more than that and depending on how you arrange those elements you can get very different results.
In order for a metal song to be really metal it has to contain certain stylistic elements, roughness, hardness, heavyness, loudness at times, the topic, the history of the band and it's roots and inspiration, the motivation, etcetera.
It's the same way with any other genre, there are certain requirements to be followed in order for a hip-hop song to be considered a real hip hop song, or a rap to b considered rap, or a funk to be considered funk or an EDM to be considered so, for Jazz to be really Jazz, for a Symphony to be considered a Symphony, for an orchestral suite to be considered so, and we can go on with any genre and style…
You don't have to explain what metal is to me, I am a metalhead. I agree that the bands in this section of the video are not metal, I'm just making a joke about how 'oblivious' he is to the degree of elitism there is in this genre. Like if that's what he's looking for, boy do we have it.
As a Ghost fan I was so happy to see they're a band that people outside of the rock/metal community can enjoy
As somebody that only dabbles in metal, Ghost was one of the first bands I ever heard (outside of like Enter Sandman). I randomly stumbled on Cirice on spotify and it weirded me out but intrigued the hell out of me too. What are a couple of their songs outside of the popular ones that you think are great?
@@gabrielseaborn257 Absolution, Witch Image, Stand by Him, Faith, Ghuleh/Zombie Queen, Ritual
@@wadekemmsies7180 spot on. Absolution and Ritual are my favorites
@@gabrielseaborn257 Late to this, no particular order (:
Prime Mover, Deus in Absentia, Per Aspera Ad Inferi, Idolatrine, Monstrance Clock (I never appreciated this song until I saw them live and they played it as an encore love the ending so much) and Waiting For The Night. Hope you enjoy the band as much as I did, this band made me get so much deeper into metal.
Growing up around classic thrash, and mostly listening to hardcore / emo, I rarely dabble too deep into anything metal anymore but anything that Ghost produces, just clicks for some reason. They're absolutely fantastical and they're always a pleasure to listen to whenever I get the itch.
So starting from the late 80s to 2000s, I'd say there were 3 major developments outside of the classic/thrash metal you listened to that you seem to have missed.
1. Metalcore
This is metal combined with hardcore punk from the late 80s. This music generally features breakdowns, and fast sections reminiscent of hardcore punk riffs from bands like black flag and minor threat. Albums I'd recommend are Converge - Jane Doe, Poison the Well - Opposite of December, Botch - We Are the Romans, and more recently Knocked Loose - A Different Shade of Blue from last year.
The general impression among metal fans of metalcore is unreasonably negative, I'd say. Most of the bands that developed from this genre in the mid 2000s like Bring me the horizon, August Burns Red, As I Lay Dying and Parkway Drive are seen as being for angsty warped tour-going teenagers with scene hair and emo clothes, though I think a lot of the earlier stuff from the genre is great.
[Some bands from this thread of music are called math-core sometimes, this basically refers to the odd and changing time signatures they use to create a chaotic sound]
2. Nu metal
The embarrassing cousin of metal that is mostly looked back at with cringe. This is metal mixed with hip hop, starting in the early-mid 90s. There are very good albums from this genre that I'd recommend like Rage Against the Machine - s/t , System of a Down - Toxicity and Deftones - White Pony. The most famous bands from this genre would be Linkin Park(early) , Limp Bizkit, Slipknot and Korn. Musically, its characterised by heavily Hip-Hop influenced drumming, and down-tuned rhythm-focused guitar riffs that have a huge but monotone sound. The vocalists can be especially cringey, a prime example being Fred Durst from Limp Bizkit's rapping.
3. Extreme Metal - Namely Death Metal and Black Metal
The most complex, heaviest and by far the genres with the most material. I can see fans being pissed that I put them together, but hear me out.
These 2 genres are products of seeing just how far "heaviness" in metal can go, hence the "extreme" label. This question received 2 different answers, hence the split to the 2 genres. Basically Death Metal - Speed and Complexity and Black Metal - Evil and Depressing Atmosphere.
a) Death Metal
Recommended: Death - Symbolic and Cannibal Corpse - The Bleeding. Very fast and complex, with Blast Beats - basically a drummer going as fast as humanly possible with lyrics often about explicit violence. More Popular and pioneered in America.
b) Black Metal
Probably the most infamous genre of music, period, given the amount of genuine Nazis, Satanists and Church Burners in the genre. The Drums are fast, but the guitars are used to create an atmosphere of evil, with complexity thrown out the window. Its like metal's version of lo-fi or shoegaze. Depressive and satanic lyrics. Deafheaven is considered part of this genre, but is absolutely hated by the hardcore fans of the genre. Recommended: Darkthrone - Under a Funeral Moon, Immortal - Sons of Northern Darkness, Behemoth - The Satanist.
Essentially in Death Metal, the hate is directed outward - to the world, wanting to destroy it and cause violence to others, but in Black Metal the hate is directed inward, with depressive and suicidal lyrics and atmosphere. Death Metal is more popular in the US and Black Metal in Europe - read into the cultural differences as much as you like
**Extra Notes**
-A genre with "technical" written in front of it generally means that the genre is a more "wanky" or complex version of the original genre.
-Progressive Metal is what progressive rock is to rock (Rec: Opeth - Blackwater Park)
-Djent is closely related to Mathcore, with odd time signature, but this time not used to create a chaotic atmosphere, and gets its name from the low guitar tone that characterises the genre. (Can hear it on eg. Meshuggah - Stengah, that low, bending sound)
-Folk Metal = Folk+Metal
-Power Metal = "motivational metal" - heroic lyrics and guitar leads about wars, heroism and fantasy.
-Stoner/Doom Metal - Slow, thick guitar riffs that create the feeling of being high, Master of Reality is similar to this (Rec: Sleep - Holy Mountain)
-Groove/Southern Metal - Rythmic-focused riffs with a lot of sliding , Pantera is in this genre
Great write up, home it gains more traction.
Was thinking about writing a similar comment. Thanks for doing the hard work! I hope he sees something like this because to appreciate metal as a whole it is important to hear how different it can all sound, and we all know the amount of subgenres is absurd.
LOL. Slipknot and System of a Down are cringy? Ok pal. What's cringy is the atonal screeching that counts as 'singing' now.
It's great to know all this stuff. Everyone's gotta find their niche in metal.
@@Jordan-Ramses Oh sorry if it came off that way. Since he was asking how various bands/genres are seen by the metal community, I have to admit that although some excellent music came out of nu metal, the genre as a whole (especially the derivative stuff later) isnt seen very positively by most metalheads. By "cringe" I mean stuff like mudvayne, puddle of mudd, godsmack, disturbed. Love system of a down and slipknot btw
Resident metalhead here: There are definitely some bands that people will say aren't metal because people think they aren't good, but you don't get to decide if a band fits into a genre because you don't like them. Guns n' Roses, on the other hand, is 100% a rock band. Google has swindled you, nobody really considers gnr to be metal.
Here's my take on your questions :
- ACDC and G&R are not metal, at all, they're hard rock with some punchy lyrics.
- Pantera suffered from irregularity, they've got a few really awesome songs mixed into pretty mediocre albums, the singer definitely has a monstruous potential (cemetary gates, 5 minutes alone) and they had Dimebag, who's considered one of the (if not straight up the) best metal guitarist ever.
- Slipknot and Disturbed are awesome, the other mentions are medium at best, i can't stand avenged sevenfold and i've never met a hardcore fan of them older than 16.
- I do not like Judas Priest stuff that much either, the singer's voice and demeanor scream punk.
- Please listen to more Iron Maiden, Bruce is such a powerhouse of a singer and their songs are genuinly interesting to listen to.
- Do yourself a favor and listen to Rammstein.
- Most metal heads i know absolutely love hip-hop (mostly old school stuff), most hip-hop heads i know despise metal, i don't know why but it is something i've seen throughout my life.
- It's not about being "that guy" there's very little i find enjoyable in today's music, you don't have to like everything, you don't have to like what's new and trending, i'd rather turn my musical interest towards real classics and learn the history of music than force myself to listen to what's pop nowadays just to be included in the conversation.
I never understood the strong dislike towards Avenged Sevenfold
@@edenjamesis2398 same
@@chillychese growing up my intro to metal. They were the starters for me and only a handful of A7X fans were around the metal community I was in
@@edenjamesis2398 slipknot got me into metal but avenged was definitely in my top 10
@@chillychese agreed felt the same way with slipknot. Just wish there was a satisfied explanation
Some songs to get into heavier subgenres:
Mastodon: The Czar
Fear Factory: Descend
Dope: Paranoia
All That Remains: Focus Shall Not fail
Death: Crystal Mountain
Gojira: Pain is a Master
Falkenbach: Bluot Fuer Bluot
Carach Angren: The Carriage Wheel Murder
Batushka: Yekteniya 7
I'm all aboard on The Czar. GOD I love that track.
Mastadon and Gojira, my man.
If you're gonna give him "Batushka" then given him bands such as " Sleep", "OM" and "Electric Wizard"
Holy shit, another person who's listened to Dope?!?!
I'd Add Dana Dan by Bloodywood to this list
Its so wholesome seeing him spell Megadeth as "Megadeath", I used to do the same exact thing when I first starting learning about the genre before I got balls deep into metal.
gonna recomend Sabaton, swedish power metal band playing songs about military history
I recommend them too
I also recommend
I 5th this
I 6th this, it might not be for him, but if this is for you, then GOD DAMNIT is it for you!
Sabaton, Powerwolf, Dragonforce 😍❤️😍❤️
My personal favorite metal album is Roots by the Brazilian metal band Sepultura. It’s pretty intense, but they do some really cool stuff on it. They use some classic Brazilian instruments, such as the berimbau in the intro to Attitude, Ratamataha is in Portuguese, and they did Itsari with a tribe in the Amazon. Not to mention a lot of the riffs are pretty simple. It might not be the best album for beginners in metal, because of it’s intensity, but its really worth a try
I would highly recommend watching Metal: A Headbanger's Journey. basically it is described as "The film discusses the traits and originators of some of metal's many subgenres, including the new wave of British heavy metal, power metal, nu metal, glam metal, thrash metal, black metal, and death metal."
Also Heavy: the story of Metal
With Slipknot, Korn, Disturbed and so on. Their lyrical rhythms are more incorporated with a rap element (more Slipknot and Disturbed). It can take multiple times listening to the bands to get into their music. Then again my preference is that I love the newer bands like Slipknot. There are also foreign bands like Rammstein and Sabaton that are worth listening to as well
Yea I would agree with that. Personally I think slipknot is a bit different from Korn. But Rammstein is considered industrial metal and because it's in a different language a lot of people don't listen to them regularly.
@@phromprong2068 One of my closest friends listens to usual rap, pop, and R&B stuff but he's a big Rammstein fan, but he is half German
@@aristotleasparaguspodcast1129 I would think rammstein is totally different from hip hop, but it's so good! I guess the half german might have something to do with it? I'm not german but I still love that band lol
Buck27 man fuck outa here with your elitist bullshit
I've seen Sabaton twice, great band to see live.
70's :Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden
80's :Metallica, Megadeth
90's :Death, Pantera
20's: soad, lamb of god, cob
21's: Gojira
Iron Maidens first album was in 1980?
@@ervv2905 As opposed to Death and Pantera? lol
@@ervv2905 Chuck Schuldiner is literally the Godfather of Death Metal
90: Spultura, Pantera*
A7X was my gateway to metal. The stage was really good.
The stage is an absolute banger!
They are great! Sidewinders is also super underrated and Unholy Confessions always remains one of my favorites from them.
@@alisunwonderland4242 M.I.A and betrayed is my favorites from them
For me it was polyphia, randomly stumbled upon G.O.A.T. fell in love with the song and slowly also in metal
I enjoyed the self titled album and City Of Evil
Hey man,
You've stumbled your way into a bit of a feud within the metal community. Ie what is metal and what isn't. There's a term used a lot, "pure metal" or "true metal" that people often use to discount various forms or subgenres that they don't count as real metal. An example of this would be glam metal (eg Motley Crue) or nu metal (Korn). But realistically everything is lumped together under the overarching genre "metal".
The term heavy metal wasn't actually applied to the earlier tracks that we now consider to be heavy metal. The term actually came from a lyric in Steppenwolf's Born to be Wild and was then used by a journalist to refer to music with a heavy sound and tone. There a plenty of examples of early metal but Black Sabbath is definitely the father of metal, basically responsible for multiple subgenres and setting the overall theme that would be present in heavy metal from then on. One track that is worth mentioning is Blue Cheer's Summertime Blues. Give that a listen. But from there you have bands like Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd and Deep Purple incorporate progressive and heavy elements into their music. Even if the band themselves isn't purely a metal band, they definitely contributed heavily to the formation of the genre.
Coming into the late 70s and early 80s you had bands starting to push the boundaries of guitar playing and the technology on offer to the limit. Giving us an even more distorted sound and faster guitar playing. This is probably the first sub genre of heavy metal that came about. Trash. And that's what bands like Slayer, Metallica and Anthrax are.
Rather than making this a short novel I thought I'd quickly go over a few prominent subgenres of metal and a few notable bands (maybe an album or two) for you to check out. Its also worth noting that most bands in metal don't strictly adhere to one subgenre but like to incorporate elements of multiple. In no particular order:
Nu Metal (formed in the 90s blending metal with influences from the hip hop scene). Bands include Korn and Limp Bizkit. I'd listen to Korn's Take a Look in the Mirror (purely because that's my favourite). Linkin Park, Hybrid Theory.
Alternative Metal (very similar to grunge to be honest). Bands like Alice in Chains fit this subgenre.
Black Metal (not a fan of this genre myself but has a huge following). Give a listen to Emperor: IX Equilibrium. Darkthrone is another example and there's quite a few of their tracks I like. Celtic Frost, Immortal, Bathory are more well known black metal bands.
Death Metal (tends to have the classic cookie monster vocal style). Bands like Cannibal Corpse, Suffocation and Deicide fit this genre. I'd recommend Suffocation's self titled album. Great listen back to front.
Groove Metal (probably the sub genre that really got me into listening to and wanting to explore metal further than the nu metal that was popular when I was growing up). This is really defined by chugging riffs that have a real groove to them and make you want to move. Bands such as Lamb of God fit this genre well.
Doom Metal (often characterised by slow droning chords and even lower tunings, although drone is arguably its own subgenre). This is a genre Black Sabbath is directly responsible for. See Sunn O))) and Earth.
Industrial Metal was popular in the 90s along with Nu Metal. Bands like White Zombie (Rob Zombie), Rammstein, Fear Factory and Marilyn Mason are the most famous.
Metalcore (this is more 2000s now and blends elements of death metal with punk and rock). Bands such as Killswitch Engage pioneered this subgenre. Other popular examples include Atreyu, Trivium and Bullet for My Valentine.
Symphonic Metal (uses orchestral elements). See Nightwish, Within Temptation.
Power Metal and Speed Metal. See DragonForce.
Stoner Metal (and psychedelic metal, use often slow riffs like doom but have a more cheerful tone (cheerful for metal) and generally have blues as an influence as well as using retro style vocals). Examples include Electric Wizard, Acid Witch, Uncle Acid and the Deadbeats, Cybernetic Witchcult.
Progressive Metal (generally characterised as using a lot of elements common and uncommon in other metal genres and blending them as well as using odd time signatures, complex structures and all around songs that are designed to take the listener on a journey). Check out Gojira's From Mars to Sirius, anything from Tool and Opeth.
I know I've left multi subgenres out, such as viking, pirate, folk etc. But it's already an essay. Happy to discuss it further and for anyone else to add in their opinions/correct me if you think I'm wrong etc. It's a discussion.
Enjoy the metal.
Matthew Edwards Rap-Metal for example early Linkin Park. Like the name says its a blending of the 2 genres
Dude how long took this comment to wright 😂😂😂
I would argue that things like pirate and viking metal all fall into either power or folk metal or maybe a blend of the two, they're mostly different thematically and don't differentiate themselves enough musically to be their own subgenre.
"See DragonForce"
Don't do this to yourself.
See Helloween, Gamma Ray, Blind Guardian, Edguy, Angra, Hammerfall, Stratovarius, Sonata Arctica.... Anything but DragonForce.
Pirate, Viking, Cowboy, etc are all theme metal. They don't typically share anything but having a theme, Alestorm vs Sabaton for instance have little in common.
The most problem my rap friends have with metal and rock, is the length of the song. Most of the songs my friends listen can hardly cross mark of 3 minutes. And I can listen to the song on repeat that is 13 minutes. Plus my friends(don’t have anyone irl listening to metal and rock) always insulting my music taste and making excuses for nothing. It’s really upsetting me(
They wouldn't like Prog or Symphonic Metal. Some of those songs run 20 minutes plus.
@@gerardcote8391 besides with prog, they wouldn't get the appeal of odd times
13 minutes? Psshaaw! *Laughs in doom metal*
In all seriousness though, don't take what people say about your music taste seriously.
Because in reality, in terms of preferences and music taste, it's all subjective.
Excuse the arrogance but
They are smooth-brained basic bitches who struggle to understand musical story telling and/or experiences and also have seizures if a lyric in a MINUTE long song features more than three syllables.
I like some rap if that doesn’t make me any less arrogant
@@tysonevarard968 ya I listen to doom metal sometimes)
“ I feel like Led Zeppelin wouldn’t be on there”😭😭 I love him already
Agreed. I love Led Zep to death but 100% not metal.
It’s mostly because people think about stairway as pop rock or something but in led zeppelin II you get heartbreaker and whole lotta love
The 80s was like The 2000s hip hop height popularity. A good half of the 80s had a more materialistic thinking sound and a way of flaunting their style. The 90s was the era of grit and grunge in both genres. And the early 2000s was when the energy drink DAD ROCK metal stuff started.
If you're looking for more newer stuff, I'd recommend Periphery, Pall bearer, Baroness, Code orange, Nails, Vektor, and Thank you scientist ( I reccomend this in particular as they blend jazz in a weird way with metal to the point where it sounds more like the Mars Volta). For more older(not too old) stuff, Dopethrone, Agalloch (highly reccomend listening to The Mantle), Opeth, Bathory, Death, Voivod and Celtic Frost.
All great choices expect periphery(one of my favs btw), i know a lot of older metal fans, and death/black metal fans that truly despise that band for his singing style. It's almost like the style of vocals is a mix between pop and metalcore (the emo kind). People should keep an open mind if they don't like the more cringy emo metalcore stuff. Atleast with peripherys older records.
This is a solid recommendation
Really great recommendations.
Fellow prog boi!
Pallbearer definitely if he like Black Sabbath
"I know nothing about heavy metal" yeah we can tell. Heavy metal is just a subgenre of metal afterall.
Also, dont ever listen to a metalheads opinion, cause everyone has their own opinion what is trve and what isnt.
No shit, huh. Trying to start a fight lol
@@tajbaber9425 Nah, that wouldnt be TRVE
Lol, that is so true. Metalheads can get a long, until they share their own opinions about different bands.
Some Metal Heads wanted to Lynch Rob Zombie for being in a picture with Babymetal. You don't have to be a guy to make Metal and there are quite a few fantastic women metal singers and musicians.
Check out Lovebites all of their songs are top metal songs.
@@gerardcote8391 What about Arch Enemy, Jinjer, Beyond the Black, Doro Pesch, Nightwish, Epice, Heilung... and so many more, there are many Bands with women singing/fronting, and many of them are insanely good.
Some personal favorites:
Judas Priest- Defenders of the Faith
Black Sabbath- S/T
Iron Maiden- Killers
Megadeth- Peace Sells
King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard- Infest the Rat's Nest
Death- Symbolic
Venom- Welcome to Hell
Bruce Dickinson- The Chemical Wedding
Rainbow- Rising (Not sure if this one counts as metal)
Rage Against the Machine- S/T
Lost Horizon- A Flame to the Ground Beneath
DIO- Holy Diver
Nile- Annihilation of the Wicked
Great list. I would say Rainbow's "Rising" definitely counts as metal.
So you put Nile on there but not Origin's Anthithesis? Or Entity?
Damn man you need to listen to more of what Korn has to offer, and DEFINITELY classic Deftones.. but I do like those newer bands, you gotta delve deeper into their works. Kinda hurts me to hear 90s and early 2000s bands being thrown under the bus.. that’s my childhood and still a part of my adult life. Please reconsider checking them out more.
Deftones is in my recommended as well, important to note that they are more grunge then metal. Love that band.
Check out Cowboys “from hell” of Pantera and the song “Floods” in The Great Southern trend kill by Pantera
The solo in floods is one of the best
And hollow you can not forget hollow
Fucking Hostile will get me goin
Avoid the light is another really good one. Don't know why that was only on a soundtrack cd
And walk you can't forget about that one
"Run for the hills sounds fun" it's about genocide 🤣🤣🤣
Still sounds fun
System of a Down - Toxicity is a masterpiece
I'm mainly a hip hop and Indie/Alternative guy myself but I've always liked System of a Down, especially Toxicity. I think its mainly because that album covers topics about problems with America similarly to a lot of my favorite hip hop songs. Plus, I love how bipolar each song is, making the whole album feel like a rollercoaster ride of sorts.
Mesmerize / Hypnotize are brilliant as well
@@OzwalR I mean they don't really have a bad album imho
Well, nothing well ever really beat their first record. If you didn't listened to it, I highly reccomend it. The punk influences, the rawness, the vocal delivery, the mixing, the tracklist.... I do not listen to Toxicity no more.
@@bexiemounne7781 I'm a mezmerize kinda person myself. Immense range of influences among the tracks, from techno to reggae. The rest of the album's have one or two tracks I dislike but that has literally none.
Aveneged Sevenfold is like My Chemical Romance for me: Loved them when I was 15 and an angsty teenager, cringed at myself for a few years, and loved them again now for the nostalgia...
Also,. try Ensiferum - Victory Songs - Finland has the most metal bands per captita and this album is what got me into the folk/melodic death metal stuff
They do have some genuinely great tracks though. I consider Exist to be one of the greatest songs of all time
@@Lyralye23a7x's guitarist is crazy
You can tell this guy is new when he writes "Megadeth" as "Megadeath"
Blame Spell checker. I spell it right and Autocorrect always changes the spelling.
Guns n Roses were never "heavy metal", it is more accurate to say that they were "ugly LA hard rock", a contrast to the "pretty boy" hard rock (aka Glam) like Def Leppard, Bon Jovi, Cinderella, Poison, Warrant, etc, that dominated at the time.
thevisionary2007 The whole time I’m like GNR and AC/DC is rock not metal
Yup!
yes these bands arent like metal today, but they are definitely (more GNR then AC/DC) building blocks that led to the metal we know today. Although GNR isn’t like metal today, back then they were harder and more harsh then others. Making them stand out.
Matthew Caimbeul ummm no, first GnR album was 87, thrash metal exploded in 83. By 87 even death metal and grindcore we’re becoming a thing.
no guns and roses are heavy metal
I feel like everyone who's trying to get into metal should start out with Metallica, it's always a good starter and it'll most likely be your first favorite metal band. After a few weeks, you'll get more into intense bands. I was a MASSIVE fan of Metallica for a good month until I started to listen to a ton of Slayer and Venom, or anything Death and Black metal in general. Now I can't really listen to Metallica as I could before because it's not as heavy and/or intense as what I listen to now.
Well I'd recommend to start more with System Of A Down if you want to get use to heavy heavy stuff faster and then work your down to black metal as fast as possible and really explore the metal genres more, but Metallica is good if you want to take your time exploring metal
Even though it wasn't received the greatest, Slipknots the Gray Chapter is in my opinion a really good starting point, it's not to heavy but has a couple songs that show the slipknot flare
I think it would be better to start with Cannibal Corpse it's much lighter than Metallica :))
Lmao my friend started me on Motionless in White so I didn’t know how much heavier I could get
Nobody in the comments is mentioning Mastodon. They are one of the best metal bands ever and almost certainly the best from the last 20 years.
Yeah and Nobody mentioned Man 'O' War either, what's your point?
SOAD, Korn, and Seether are my personal favorite from the last 20 years, but you are entitled to your opinion.
That is exactly what I was thinking
Eh mastodon is alright
Too much happening in too little time imo. Not even a live show could convince me (I was there for Opeth though)