There was a man who just went through this, and he contacted a local station and they researched the law and he did not have to pay. This is criminal what they are trying to to do to you, please fight them….
sue the people that created the damage to the person that sued the district, sue them for causing the damage of the high taxes, make them pay for their stupidity. Imagine if a person gets in a car accident and gets sued trying to pass the financial judgement on to another person against their will. What a joke, stick together and sue together, there's power in numbers to be seen and heard.
@@westernbody People have no clue. If you are not liable to pay Tax in Township (not having a business in its Jurisdiction) then you are NOT a TAXPAYER. You are NOT becoming Taxpayer, just by buying the Property/home. NO commercial /Ad Valorem Activity = NO TAX, Wake up, it is Extorsion.
All of the residents should get together and file another law suit against the school board for 1.6mil, this should be illegal for them to just throw that bill onto the town residents.
I'm an insurance underwriter. 2 things to note...insurance company probably wanted school board to do things that they didn't want to do for the 1M settlement and that could've been even worse for the kids and definitely they would've had a much larger amount if it went to trial. #2 most tax bills have those fees and ANYONE in those districts are subject to the same thing. Wildfire and hurricane areas sometimes have surcharge codes on their bills that nobody is aware of. Make SURE you check your bills annually as well as your policies because many things are changing with the US!
$1 million liability policy was laughably small. I hope the board's attorney, the superintendent, and their insurance company recommended a higher amount (and made sure the recommendation was placed in the minutes.) If the board would not put it in the record, they should have taken out an ad in the local paper.
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Mary, I get that wildfires and hurricanes or normal operations to keep a school afloat...but a scandle and coverup! that should get jailtime for those involved and the party getting paid should get only what was available from the insurance. when the insurance runs out, they should sieze the assets and sell those ....heck sell the school to pay off the debt, but its not fair to bill the property owners whe were not represented with their own attorney. I have no idea what was done by the school or who was damaged, but if the person that got the award lived in the town...did they get a tax bill too? how can that be justified for them to have to contribute to the granted win?
The schoolboard should have fired the teacher instead of trying to cover it up. It sounds like there were a lot of incompetent and possibly corrupt people involved in this scam. I think that all the citizens should stand together and try to fight this injustice.
I agree they are the ones who committed the crimes the teacher for not keeping their hands to themself and the school board for trying to cover it up the town did no wrong they are not responsible for paying the rest of the settlement the ones who committed the crimes are get a lawyer
It’s all wrong!! Each and every school member and the board itself have to be bonded and insured!!! Also federal funding demands it. Whole community needs to fight that.
@@susanbrown992 Agreed. And if Salina has a community social media page, this should be brought up and addressed so keep it from happening again (and worse). It may take a state proposition to take care of the issue, but once people in the state are aware of what may happen to them, I can see it being done. The burden of a lawsuit judgement should land on the guilty parties, not the innocent tax payers.
@@tjones72381 The thing is , is that when the school bonds become due they can’t pay them. That when people’s taxes get increased. There are law suits going on in Denton County TX ! It’s all one big corrupt circle! But there are laws in TX that have to do with the actual value of property. Which is coming into play in these lawsuits where property valued are being j fasted which in Turn inflate property taxes and homeowners insurance. The. Part of those taxes go to the school! It’s all one big corrupt pike of bs!
Back in the 90’s Florida’s home owners taxes were going crazy and my mother and other people got together and petitioned a Save Our Homes bill that put a rate increase limit for homeowners of 3 percent. The Florida voters voted in. It did take a couple of years to get it through to vote on. Maybe you could try to get a comparable bill passed in Oklahoma.
That's one of the very few good amendments that we got to vote on. All of the other amendments have been junk dumped on us by Soros and other out of state elites.
In our county in middle Tennessee, everyone pays an extra $50.00 every year on our tags. First it was to pay for the new school buildings, then it went for the construction on the existing school buildings. But every year you have to pay the extra money for something.
I have never heard of a situation like this before. Fire the school board. Let the county sell property to pay for this mess. Sue the teachers involved and sell their stuff.
It's only one of the many ways Corporations and governments are Stealing land, it's only the beginning. Hawaii fires were the same thing, they also put so many regulations on small land owners farmers that they can't live amd are forced to sell
This settlement has to have been approved by the school board at a regularly scheduled school board meeting. Every such meeting must have recorded minutes that are required to be available to be viewed by members of the public via a freedom of information request. Under no circumstances should any official of the District not know how such a decision was made. Any news reporter should know how to make a proper FOIA to obtain that information.
yea thats complete bullshit they should be sued into the ground. pay their debts with the clothes on their backs. slimy that they dont assume responsiblity.
@@dt5310 I think the teacher(s) involved and any officials involved in the cover-up should be PERSONALLY responsible for the debt. Seems to me the School Board should go after them directly. This is NOT something that should be passed on to the taxpayers, PERIOD!!!
@@lesadietrich4784I agree but unfortunately that is the way it is. When a city, school or any state government get sued it always goes to the taxpayers no matter what.
They should all have to pay for a bond on themselves where they are liable for their own actions. We had a case like this in our school district down here in Texas but nothing we can do about it.
That's not exactly correct. Once the liability insurance or other funds are exhausted in paying the victims then the balance of the agreed upon settlement is on the back of the taxpayers. Doesn't mean there aren't other legal options though.
That is so ate up! The families of the children who were victimized are being charged through taxes for their own suit that they won? fight fight fight!
speaking with residents many say they feel punished for the actions of one teacher and school district. While they tell me they agree with the outcome of the lawsuit, they believe the school and teacher should be the ones to pay.
The govt and teachers union (if there is one) are going to claim "qualified immunity," but the courts have ruled that criminal action isn't qualified for immunity. I wonder if the school board that was in office for the cover-up, along with district administration, can be held criminals liable? If so, there might be an avenue of suing them to pay up instead of foisting it on the residents (including the families of the victims).
@@kimfleury how many are actually qualified for that immunity? Cover ups are not qualified for that immunity. Obstruction of justice is not qualified. Present tense board members did not commit the crime or conspire to conceal. They're the ones tasked with cleaning up litterbugs before them. They're also being persecuted having to pay the same bill on their own taxes as the residents. What consequences should apply to people in authority who are abusing their power, or embezzling funds, or facilitating child molesters? These things need to be spelled out in legislation, but the legislators themselves may be implicated as they also enjoy 'qualified immunity' when they really ought not be qualified.
I just read a little about the teacher issue with students. There's 441 households in Salina as of 2022. So 1.6 mil divided by 3 years is approx. 533,333 $. So just each of the 441 households paying their share of the 1.6 the annual tax is $1200. Not counting all the other taxes. You all got screwed by your school!
@@mrdiggie3321 if it's based on property values then my percentage would be the same as yours. Regardless of the value. If mine is worth twice what yours is, I pay twice as much, but the percentage is the same. The only thing that would affect this is if somehow they cover more than one township, and the other townships millage rate is drastically different for everything else besides the school. Then their increase would be a different percentage of their overall tax bill. But there is NO WAY it would vary from 30% to 200% increase. No way
About 3 1/2 months ago, we just sold our house in Florida. It was built back in the 60s, but it was a concrete block. I bought it back in early 80s and my taxes were under $600 a year. My insurance was like $175 a year and my flood insurance was like $125 Before we sold. Our taxes went up to $6000. Our homeowners insurance was like $5000 and a flood insurance was about $1500 a year . What broke to camels back with our insurance said that they needed to do an inspection because of the age of the house .we knew a neighbor down the street that had the same age house as we and they got the inspection and what they told them was, they needed to replace the hot water heater the air conditioner the electrical( because they had aluminum wire) replace sewer pipes because it was a cast-iron We got tired of every time you turned around they raised our taxes & are insurance , flood insurance so we just decided to say sell it, and we did we received half of what it was worth. WAKE UP PEOPLE. Because this is just beginning.
I li e in Florida and the taxes and home owners insurance is off the chart!!!! My husband is 80 and I’m 73. If we were to sell our home we would not be able to buy another house we could afford. 😡
What if anything does your post have to do with a lawsuit in Oklahoma? Bringing a house up to current code is expected. Your insurance went up because you to live a state battered by hurricanes and storm surges. That's all on you!
I believe you are correct. There’s a bigger picture at work here and what your not supposed to know is that we will be left “with nothing to own and we will be happy”. If you know you know and may wish you didn’t because the concept is about as depressing and ugly as it gets.
i do 4 point inspections in FLA...people do not understand that a house depreciates (i know the realestate peeps say otherwise)...but the roof ages, plumbing, electrical, heating AC ECT....put 300 bucs back every month to fix all the stuff that wears out or breaks.....most wont....then the shock sets in!
Schools are required to carry insurance to cover all sorts of things, failure to educate, sexual harassment, breaches of duty, neglect, errors or omissions, sports injuries, and bullying activities of the students are among the top insurance concerns. In today’s climate, where the spotlight has been placed on the instances and failures of institutions to report, address and prevent abuse or misconduct, being hyper vigilant to the safety of all under a school’s care is extremely important. Public schools get funding from federal, state, and local taxes. They’re also part of a larger school system and must follow the rules and regulations set by the government. So, something isn't passing the smell test with how the school is handling the situation.
The smell test is the local conspiracy that did an end run around the regulations & policies that would have protected the district & the state. When a crime takes place authorities get notified. How many layers of authorities turned a blind eye is the question that needs answers. Impartial investigations are in order. Investigative journalism is in order.
@@flyfishing1776it sounds like there was no discussing with public and they just ran with it. His message is to make public aware of tactics. The laws and knowing how we can interpret them is BS. It needs to be clearly explained to residents. Hidden meaning/impact needs to be clear.
What gets me is the family’s of the 15 are now having to pay for the lawsuit themselves. If this was going on for 6 years that is sad that it was not brought to a head a lot sooner. I feel very sorry for the 8th grade girls that had to go through this. But the school principal superintendent and the school board should not have let that go on EVER. Those poor girl.
Our city here increased our taxes 163% last year just because they said they "needed" it. Many of us citizens went to fight it at the city council meeting but they didn't care that all the citizens were opposed to it. So now the city employees got big raises, the police force has exponentially increased, and lots of building projects have started. It's crazy what governments get away with nowadays.
I would be livid if that happened to me. Those who may be low income or on a fixed income probably couldn’t pay it, and risk losing their property over something they had nothing to do with. I looked up the law suit. That teacher definitely should be made to pay, and the school district needs to find another way to pay.
Why should the althletes have to suffer? They should have sued the individual administrators who were involved in the coverup. Not the school district!@@jasonhaudenshield5220
I live in cook county , IL and 2 years ago they increased my property taxes from 4,000\Yearly to 7,000\Yearly. My insurance on my house has increased from 900.00 to 1,400. My car insurance has increase dramatically as well. It is getting out of control. They are pricing us out of our homes.
I live in St. Clair County illinois. My house insurance went up almost $1600, car insurance $300 every six months and don't even want to talk about real estate taxes. 67% of that goes to the school district..
That's exactly what they are want and idk what to do but we have to come together, no matter what, and figure it out. They just trippled our home owners insurance, car insurance and our taxes went up 700$ 2. Insurance was 600$ 2 1800$ car was 160$ 2 255$, taxes 1345$ 2 1900$ . We r in utah.
People should pay attention to infomercials. The next get rich scheme that is advertised on tv is going to affect you some way somehow. What's the new scheme? Tax liens. They are advertising seminars on how to get rich on tax liens on houses. Which means a lot of people are going to start to lose their homes. What was the last scheme? Buying mobile home parks. By Increasing lot fees 1000% they make a huge profit Who loses? Residents who own their trailers. They also eventually lose their homes. Do your homework. They are always scheming and scamming someone out of their property to make a quick buck. The classic fleecing of America!!
The vultures will sweep in. "Investor groups" looking for gentrification opportunities, mineral rights, timber rights etc. Properties burdened with large taxes, the sale cannot be completed until those tax liens are paid. I suggest the present tense landowners need to start thinking about how to make the land pay for itself. Rental space, raise chickens, grow tomatoes, sell electricity with solar panels, hydro, or wind, thin the tree stands selling lumber or firewood. Residents may gain forbearance from the county because there wasn't disclosure enough to let people know a huge increase was coming, but that will be a temporary measure. They could have structured the settlement for them to have longer pay backs, but it will increase the bill with the interest tacked on. Late pays will have fines imposed that also jack up the total losses. Doubtful there's much of a tax break for all these increased expenses either. Federal taxes will offer the most break if you paid into it substantially.
Lemme tell you: even if you go to EVERY school board meeting, so you actually know every thing that happens, it doesn't work. Then they start having "executive meetings", behind closed doors. Not just the school board. City Council, County Commissions... once they realized they're being studied, they start making private decisions for the public.
@ph00xy that's easier said than done when so many vote a straight party ticket and don't pay attention to what they're doing. And trust me: very few pay attention.
Hey Sean, be careful with mixing chicken feed with bare hands. I used to do that until I started getting staph in my fingers from doing that. Doctor said the dust off the feed is what caused that and any type of dew or mist. Please, be careful, it's quite nasty and it hurts.
If surety bonds are required for school personnel or board members in your state, file a claim against their bond(s) if they haven't properly done their job.
The citizens pay a good portion of the schools revenue in most American communities. It's on almost all property tax sheets. I suggest reading your own if you're a property owner. I do agree that it shouldn't have been passed on to the citizens. Those that did the deed, and tried to cover it up should be responsible. I googled it and as far as I'm concerned that coach should be rotting in jail!
Transparency comes in the form of the community attending the school board meetings. This is where school budgets are developed. Try getting the school board meetings on RUclips they are supposed to be public meetings after all. People need to be involved in their school board meetings. Lesson learned.
Dutch it probably won't be long before you have either some Dickens or some Chucks !! 😱🤣🤣 Hope this mess can be settled & the residents Don't have to pay for someone else's crimes. Blessings, Love & Hugs 🙏🙏🌹 Love 🌻 from Apex NC 💜
I googled it and the residents should not have to pay to cover the schools part of the lawsuit. The people of the town didn't do the crime. They need to go after the criminals family for the money.
Semper Fi, Sean. 🇺🇸 The way I see it, you have two options only and neither one is good. 1) Get rid of that house that put you on the hook or 2)Rally your neighbors to hire an attorney and file a joint class lawsuit, for which would finally give you a voice to stand up against the school district. Semper Fi, brother. 🤙🏻
Digital- unfortunately if he sells his home he needs to disclose to the prospective new homeowner about the lawsuit and the taxes will come up. Doubt if he can sell it now.
@ I think the best option is for everyone to hire one good attorney and depose the school district to get everything on record. The only problem that I can see with that is that a financial loss only comes after Sean pays those taxes. So basically, he’s stuck with those taxes for the next three years. 😢
I always had chicken, both laying hens, our girls, and roosters 🐓. Ita amazing how well a couple roosters can Ken keep your hens safe, call them in at dusk, and keep them away from dangerous areas. I'm 59 now, as much as I wish to still keep hens and roosters, I'm not able to...😢 but God bless you for sharing with all of us, the daily journey of tending to poultry. It makes me so happy to hear your hens and roosters. I know that sounds silly. But to me it is just wonderful. Some people may not appreciate such daily chore. But I love it!! Thank you so much. My god bless and keep you well. Big hugs to all 3 of your daughters, and an big hug to you and your wife. I don't send comments often, but I always like to share, and of course, I am subscribed. Merry Christmas to you all. From me, Jeanne in Maine. Prayers to you in this tax issue, it's really crazy.. but God is on your side.. you are amazing and we love you all so much. Thank you again for all uploads, especially the hens and roosters. God bless.
Sounds the same as every time a police department gets sued. The officer involved doesn't get sued and have to pay, the residents pay it. You want to get super pissed off, research officer involved lawsuits and the amounts and the details involving the lawsuits and the people pay the lawsuit and the officer is still employed...
That's just wrong on so many levels. The residents that are affected by this should all get together and get an attorney to represent you all. You could all put your taxes into an escrow account until the matter is resolved. Because all of you should not be on the hook for it. And sue the school board.
Every state is different but you need to have a vote of no confidence and see what legal rights you have. Increasing taxes is a legislative issue and there should be a way for your community to protest your taxes. Taxation without representation? Levies must be voted and pass to increase your taxes!
All property taxes can be taxation without representation. Individuals who own property in a taxing area but live elsewhere, and all businesses, have no vote for school board, town council, county council and commissioners, referendums, levies, mills, legislators, etc. Classic taxation without representation. Also, property tax in many places is a tax on unrealized gain. If the assessed value goes up and it causes tax to go up, you pay more tax while realizing no gain (until it is sold.) And if the assessed value later goes down, will they rebate the excess tax on gain which can never be realized? Norfolk & Way.
The residents should get together and sue those who did the coverup and the teacher who did wrong; they are the ones who should be paying the 1.6 million.
Unfortunately the were employees of the school system and the school system apparently had knowledge and is culpable. THAT places the citizens on the hook for the bill.
@@joneskendrick2084 the school system is comprised of individuals, some of which were in authority or supervisory capacity. ALL parties that obstructed justice enabling a molester in the school need to be held account.
I'm just so confused on why the officials that made this mistake are not penalized, why the town? If a caregiver makes a mistake they get fired and blacklisted Nationally. If a politician or law official makes a mistake they can pass it on to the taxpayers possibly lose their job, but just move 1 county/city over and get another job. Hold the people in power liable not the taxpayers.
@@user-cn8wu2ok5s im not talking about any of the specific actions or mistakes. Im talking about the repercussions of the event causing the public to pay the price for 1 individuals actions. Hard to believe a school couldn't come up with money, all they realistically have to do is advertise or lease out the products they use every day. School food now sponsored by McDonalds for 3 years or art and shop classes are now landscaping and drywall installation classes for the school to teach a trade and make back there debt to society.
Our school taxes this year was wild also, we paid like $480 just in property taxes to our school district and another $200 from our utility bills and misc bills that we get monthly. We don't have any kids, so we are paying for other kids to get an education.
@@dianelavoie6208 starter homes can be expensive depends on where you live. My home is only valued at 50k and taxes are increasingly expensive in my area.
You were a child once, went to school for free, and now you pay it back as an adult to the next generation. Huge increases in school taxes usually means they kicked the can down the road on maintenance (the previous decade of reduced taxes people enjoyed) and now they're forced to get it done all at once or outright build a new school. I assume you're a first time home owner of that starter home- a stitch in time saves nine. Don't slouch on maintenance or you won't be getting the mileage you counted on. Read up on plumbing before you have plumbing emergencies. Trust me.
yep looked it up, SALINA, Okla. - A lawsuit stemming from a lewd molestation case in Salina Public Schools is forcing taxpayers to foot the bill. 2 News spoke with one parent who said it feels like they’re being punished for the actions of one teacher and the school district.
The school got sued for the cover up. The revenue for the district comes from property tax. I guess they could shutdown all the sports for 5 years and pay it that way
@@jasonhaudenshield5220 Yes, they can curtail any expenses not required by state law. Then let those teachers go when contracts expire. Spread the pain around. Still gotta pay the settlement, but maybe the taxpayers could be made whole by 15 or 20 years of bare bones education. Would be a big boost for any private/parochial schools nearby when everyone who can, sends kids there.
A million dollars liability insurance for a school system is ridiculous. Personally sue the school board members for negligence in carrying adequate insurance.
I needed $2 million liability insurance on my car to drive kids for organizations I worked for and volunteered with. How can a school DISTRICT have only $1 million?!
Dutch, this profile is common in many states and school districts. Most school districts have an insurance policy like your echool district. They hope that a law suite never happens. I live in Georgia and once I reached 65, my school taxes were eliminatedoing which cut my yearly bill by 60 to 70 percent. This situation is a common example of what you need to explore before buying into a school district. When I moved 38 years ago, I asked my legal lawyer if the county I wanted to move into was safe and had money to cover law suites? He said yes for my future county and school district but no to several others around my suggested property.
Sorry this is happening to you. I just did the simplest thing and googled it and it said no the school district cannot pass that lawsuit over to the residence. Don't accept what they say time to get a lawyer.
That is crazy!! Why should the people pay for the schools crap? That school district should take it out of their budget and the teachers. It’s not the people of Salina’s fault.
So the school district is not responsible for their wrongdoings? The residents are now responsible for what the school district is settling for. There is no penalty for the school district. That is ridiculous. I didn’t know it could happen that way either. Geez!!
The taxpayers ARE in fact the school district! It's not a them v us matter. Believe it or not the board may have actually SAVED the taxpayer's money by settling v a full on court trial. Has anyone considered THAT possibility given the sensitive details of the events plus minors being involved?
@@joneskendrick2084 it is an Us vs Them matter when people who write laws and policies, and those who selectively (unevenly) enforce laws, put themselves above the law. Many failures happened in positions of authority, and none of them face consequences as they ought to.
Unfortunately, this is what you get when you have publicly funded schools. Schools only source of income is the school tax. If they have an unexpected expense, they don't have anywhere else to go for the money.
It's awful and I'm sorry you are going through this. Our property taxes went up by $1200 this year too. And, of course, we aren't notified either or have any warning it would go up so much. We got the notice of re-assessment but had no idea it would go up that much. It could be happening all over. In our case, it more than likely is all the brand new schools and remodeling the old schools. We didn't have children and therefore had no children in the local schools and we've certainly paid our fair share since, for our own schooling. But we have had a rash of new schools and then they remodel the old schools and re-use for this, that and the other. Between the hospital and schools, they own a LOT of real estate and just keep needing more and more money to keep it all up, landscaped and new buildings. Our high school was built about 3 years ago. We were told it would only raise our taxes an average of $50/year, but, as I said, ours went up $1200. Our new high school is on a plot of land with hundreds of acres of which they have to keep landscaped. It has a huge baseball field that rivals the new league baseball field in town, huge football field (both fields replete with jumbotrons), soccer fields, gym with basketball court, acres of asphalt parking lots, an outdoor amphitheater (which is NEVER used because it's too close to the busy road and too far from the school buildings), a pond with water fountain and an auditorium. The cafeteria rivals any restaurant. They have custom buses for the football team. Tax paying citizens are not allowed to use any of the features of the school because of school violence. We have to protect the students (and I agree) so NO ONE is allowed on the premises to walk the track fields or use the ampitheatre. I used to live across from a school and I often used the track field to walk when school wasn't in session. Now it's all fenced and custodians tell you to get off school property (even during the summer). As for city services we have garbage pickup and yard waste pickup. And since Hurricane Helene we've not had ANY yard waste pickup for 3 months. They "contracted with a company to do that" and so far, they have done little of it. We had no damage from the hurricane but it's leaf season and so you can't drive down our little street in our nice neighborhood for all the leaf piles in the street! I'm not exaggerating! What gets me, we used to live on a farm and I know how low the taxes are on unimproved land and farm land. But, with the burst of population (thank you, illegal aliens) and the people moving from high cost-of-living states like California, New York, etc, our city is busting at the seams. All that empty land is being built on with lots of less than 1/2 an acre. That means 100 acres of farmland that used to be billed $600 in property taxes is now subdivided into 200 1/2 acre lots with $300k homes on them which should bring in $400,000+ (if you average $2,000 taxes per house, but it's much more now, as our own house is $7,000/year but that is city taxes, county homes are less). Yet, they can't keep up with the school building and the city services? Where is all that money going? It's not going to road improvements, etc. But your situation may explain where a lot of money is going (besides in everybody's corrupt double dipping pockets). Maybe we are settling suits also and we just don't know about it. It is really distressing to know that those of us who have worked hard, planned ahead, tried to do all the right things (and paid our taxes and bills all our lives) and they could raise our taxes so high we could still lose our homes even if we paid for them and owe no mortgage on them. I almost had one house paid for. We were real proud of that. But then realized, if they raise our taxes and keep raising them, we could lose our house because we don't have the cash to pay our high taxes. I don't want to be house rich and cash poor. I had a friend like that. She and her husband had paid off their mortgage. But he's gone and she's on a fixed income and can't afford repairs, taxes and insurance. The house has been let go so long that it's not going to bring much money if she was physically able to sell it and move. She's stuck. And, on top of that, she can no longer use her upstairs as she can't go up the stairs. She lives in half the house with just a half bath downstairs. She can't afford to have the grass mown, the toilet fixed, a new refrigerator. I guess it's better than a tent but not by much. So I quit worrying about paying the mortgage off. It's low interest and tax deductible.
Yes it can happen it happened in Jackson County Missouri and there's a whole bunch of lawsuits and a criminal investigation into the giant tax increase and that was about a year and a half ago and it's still ongoing
Hey Dutch my Cousin has a small farm and also mixes his own feed because it's cheaper that way so what he did was buy a cheap concrete mixer to mix his feed. He says it was a game changer. Might be an ideal way for you to mix feed. Just a thought..
Jackson County in MO raised our assessed value 194.6% last year and then the assessor claimed it had nothing to do with our real estate tax! And there was supposed to be a 15% limit annually. Then the state sued the county, but the county can't backtrack because they have already spent last year's collection!
assessed value up our house value went up 250%this year and then the assessor claimed it wouldn't raise our real estate tax, guess what, Our taxea went up 250%
The residents ARE the school district. They can be held liable. The real question is who (county, school board, insurance co.) agreed to settle in the first place without at least a public hearing or notification and why was there not enough insurance to cover this liability?
These lawsuits are happening all over the country.I just got a notice that 2 lots I have in delaware are being assessed for over Twice as much as they have been
if you hired someone to do work for your company and they do something that gets your company sued, the owners of the company have to pay - your school system works like that.
That whole situation was horrible and it is sad and inexcusable the district did not protect the girls involved but then for the city to not prepare residents and be honest was just as bad. I am a retired educator and I did not know the city would have to bail the district out like this. Some families truly can't come up with that money.
The teacher involved should belong to a teacher association NEA or an Oklahoma teacher association which usually has insurance in case a teacher is sued for misconduct.
The same is happening in Morris, OK. Property taxes went up for everyone in the Morris School district. The school had a million dollar insurance policy and the lawsuit exceeded the insurance policy. Kingfisher school district is also dealing with something similar, but they chose to let staff go instead of raising property taxes, at least according to the News on 6 report.
Dutch, tax increases are happening all over. Brick & mortar libraries, fire stations, police depots, tax/tag agencies. Just to name a few.I can count 4 parks with swimming pools (one with an inside river run),1 skate park, within a 15 min drive from my house. My county, Gwinette County Ga bought a 16.5 million defunct shopping mall. It was originally reported as a 23 mill purchase. My local community just incorporated as a city. Can't wait to see what that brings to my door step.
Something similar happened where I was in Illinois, nowhere near Chicago. My tax bill was $9400 on a 60 yr old 1450sqft, no basment city lot home, we left. Our schools lost their minds in Illinois............
We lived in Central farm land Illinois, we moved out to Oklahoma..we saw years ago what blue welfare voters in Chicago were always out numbering the farmers vote and working class vote.
We are in Oklahoma and this is very wrong! Stand up to this! We are dealing with a corrupt county assessor in Logan county. Extreme taxation and a felon is working in the office. Taxation! This cannot be done. I am with the grassroots in Oklahoma we are fighting against property tax period! Merry Christmas! Wendy🇺🇸🙏🏻
It's not bad enough that all the residents are being forced to pay for the bad actions of the school board members they voted for or whoever was responsible for the cover-up. It gets worse: the families of the victims have to pay increased taxes, too. So sure, they're getting whatever the lawyers don't take, but then they have to turn around and give it back to the school district. The whole thing sounds fishy.
It's just a welcome to the world of property taxes. 😊😊😊 Wait to your property tax bill adjusts, for non-homestead. (This rental property). That could be a video too?
A similar thing happened here in Nebraska. Beatrice NE cops arrested a group of 7 people in a crime and they spent several years in jail before they were found to be innocent and the county was found liable for this unjustified arrest. The 7 got a huge law suit settlement against the county and they charged the property owners with a higher property tax to pay for the negligence of these cops that arrested these innocent people.
The residents shouldn't have had to pay, but it's the jury that covicts and the prosecuter who prosecutes (with or without evidence), not the police. They were just doing their job, to the best of their ability.
Question: Do the school board members live in the town or own property in the town? Sounds like you guys have to sue the school. Don't schools have a budget? Not sure that schools can actually increase property taxes. This is worth further research. This was very worthwhile. Thank you.
They had the opportunity to provide a larger insurance policy, 1 million dollars, barely covers two auto accidents. My home town insured their own vehicles with the minimum policy, ergo our budget was on the hook for any overage, ergo taxes went up The policy was tiny compared to the payouts we incured
We had a gentleman here who had the taxes rebated by putting it on the recall vote. That man has passed but his legacy lives on. Maybe you all can put it on for recall election.😊 We have a limit of increase by law.
1. It is important to know when your respective districts are voting on school budgets, our school taxes are over $3K, property taxes are $4K (we have 13.3 acre farm), senior citizens and never had any children. The voting usually only draws about 1500 - 1800 voters for a multi million dollar budget. The population is probably around 20,000 residents. 2. The state teachers association should provide coverage through the unions, etc. 3. It should not be dumped on the laps of the remaining citizens, when the district can’t keep their teachers covered. 4. A class action suit against the the teacher and/or the district might be considered. Seems Salina lost a lot of its viable tax base with the tornado this past spring, which would put more of the burden on fewer remaining residents and businesses. Talk about punching someone in the gut when they are already knocked down. The state needs to be involved. But the same thing happens with police and qualified immunity, lawsuits end up costing the tax payers. When the money should come out of pension funds and unions. God bless!
I was trying to figure out how to say this exact thing. In Michigan they vote to increase the millage. So if you don't vote at the smaller elections you don't have a say in the outcome
Lawsuits should come out of pension funds and unions? Whatever 401k/pension fund values assigned to individual criminals should be forfeit to pay this suit. Again, punishing all the honest teachers is just another way to shift the blame off the guilty. Unions don't hire molesters, supervise molesters or enable molesters in any way. Unions are there for employees who are wrongfully accused, and once convicted, they are severed from the ranks. There is no get out of jail free card offered by the unions. The administrative school district hierarchy did this, and you blame the entire teaching profession.
My parents live in Salina. My dad has leukemia and lymphoma and can no longer work. My mom is the sole provider and they are struggling to pay their property taxes this year. They went up by a significant amount. Thank you for covering this. They worked hard all of their lives to have their property paid for, and now they are having to pay for someone else's mistakes. Sad.
Same here in Vermont. Last year property taxes went up 13.9%, this year it’s going up another 5.9%. All for school budgets! Sure it’s statewide not local but a burden on all of us!!
Wait what.. that's not a million dollar property.. is there gold.. liquid gold.. dimands in the ground. This is crazy.. school system should never up your taxes that high.. man that's bad
That is crazy, I carry 5 X that on my business insurance and you have to have that for ALL federal contracts… The school should have been MADE to sue the teacher for damages and jailed till payment is completed…..
It's negligent of the school to only carry a million dollar policy in these times. They probably could have got a 5 million policy for a few hundred dollars a year more
Interesting. Our county lost a lawsuit (that they fought in court) for breach of contract, and they had to pay ten million. You guessed it…that ten million was applied to our taxes! For seven years! It was just paid off this last year. But my property taxes still went up over $100 this year supposedly because they had “under assessed” the value of my home LAST year. You said it right. Once they get extra coming in, they won’t let it go. They will find some reason to keep getting it.
So a teacher does "something" to students, the school administration covers it up, gets sued, and the school board ok's the cost being put onto the residents. Government at its finest.
I would expect the money added to the tax bill is only a portion of the actual settlement cost. Their liability insurance was probably exhausted by a significant amount and there is no place to turn for the settlement shortfall.
The rate increase will never go away even if/once they've paid the difference. There's also the prospect they know they're going to need the future funds in case they responsible parties get sued further (especially if any of those responsible are still part of the school district employees or board).
It was the COVER UP that caused the situation to worsen - IF the school board had done their job correctly - then - the situation would have been much less.
Those who were involved in the cover up and the teacher should be responsible for the 1,6 million not the whole community.
Yes! The teacher and the district hiring manager!
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Can the community take the responsible party to court?
I agree
That's absolutely nuts. A school should not have the right to pass on the burden of a lawsuit onto residents. This should be fought tooth and nail.
8th admendment violation
There was a man who just went through this, and he contacted a local station and they researched the law and he did not have to pay. This is criminal what they are trying to to do to you, please fight them….
Dereliction of duty by the school board,they are supposed to have insurance against any lawsuits filed against them,outrageous.
sue the people that created the damage to the person that sued the district, sue them for causing the damage of the high taxes, make them pay for their stupidity. Imagine if a person gets in a car accident and gets sued trying to pass the financial judgement on to another person against their will. What a joke, stick together and sue together, there's power in numbers to be seen and heard.
@@westernbody People have no clue. If you are not liable to pay Tax in Township (not having a business in its Jurisdiction) then you are NOT a TAXPAYER. You are NOT becoming Taxpayer, just by buying the Property/home. NO commercial /Ad Valorem Activity = NO TAX, Wake up, it is Extorsion.
All of the residents should get together and file another law suit against the school board for 1.6mil, this should be illegal for them to just throw that bill onto the town residents.
I agree
A class action lawsuit!
LMAO. Yet the residents would still be paying the $1.6 million. Who do you think would be paying that judgement.
Iagree
Take it to the governor's office.
I'm an insurance underwriter. 2 things to note...insurance company probably wanted school board to do things that they didn't want to do for the 1M settlement and that could've been even worse for the kids and definitely they would've had a much larger amount if it went to trial. #2 most tax bills have those fees and ANYONE in those districts are subject to the same thing. Wildfire and hurricane areas sometimes have surcharge codes on their bills that nobody is aware of. Make SURE you check your bills annually as well as your policies because many things are changing with the US!
Yup. A new school was built in a city near me, and the bill went to all the land owners.
$1 million liability policy was laughably small. I hope the board's attorney, the superintendent, and their insurance company recommended a higher amount (and made sure the recommendation was placed in the minutes.) If the board would not put it in the record, they should have taken out an ad in the local paper.
TIME has arrive to CHANGE THE CODES. No more black BOOK maritime LAW. What was taken in USA corporation proceeding will be brought back to the Republic . Lawyers you may need to recertify The GOLDEN AGE has dawn
Mary, I get that wildfires and hurricanes or normal operations to keep a school afloat...but a scandle and coverup! that should get jailtime for those involved and the party getting paid should get only what was available from the insurance. when the insurance runs out, they should sieze the assets and sell those ....heck sell the school to pay off the debt, but its not fair to bill the property owners whe were not represented with their own attorney. I have no idea what was done by the school or who was damaged, but if the person that got the award lived in the town...did they get a tax bill too? how can that be justified for them to have to contribute to the granted win?
The schoolboard should have fired the teacher instead of trying to cover it up. It sounds like there were a lot of incompetent and possibly corrupt people involved in this scam. I think that all the citizens should stand together and try to fight this injustice.
The likely reason for non full disclosure is minors were involved. that's done everyday and you wouldn't want your child exposed either.
They should be going after the teacher and school board who covered it up!
I agree with @MadebinBC
I agree they are the ones who committed the crimes the teacher for not keeping their hands to themself and the school board for trying to cover it up the town did no wrong they are not responsible for paying the rest of the settlement the ones who committed the crimes are get a lawyer
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"Who OK'd it?" - non-sensical question.. The sheeple of this town.. How do this guy NOT understand who is the Public in Public School.
@@derrikarenal3308 You think the public voted for this or something? Somebody OK'd it, and it was the School Board.
I don't understand how the public has to pay for the penalty from the schools ignorance
Thanks for sharing this video with us
It’s all wrong!! Each and every school member and the board itself have to be bonded and insured!!! Also federal funding demands it. Whole community needs to fight that.
So if they don't get federal funding
@@jasonhaudenshield5220 from my understanding all servants of government must be insured and bonded.
The school district is to carry insurance for this kind of thing . Think people needed to start going to school board meetings like they used to.
@@susanbrown992 Agreed. And if Salina has a community social media page, this should be brought up and addressed so keep it from happening again (and worse). It may take a state proposition to take care of the issue, but once people in the state are aware of what may happen to them, I can see it being done. The burden of a lawsuit judgement should land on the guilty parties, not the innocent tax payers.
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The thing is , is that when the school bonds become due they can’t pay them. That when people’s taxes get increased.
There are law suits going on in Denton County TX !
It’s all one big corrupt circle!
But there are laws in TX that have to do with the actual value of property.
Which is coming into play in these lawsuits where property valued are being j fasted which in Turn inflate property taxes and homeowners insurance.
The. Part of those taxes go to the school! It’s all one big corrupt pike of bs!
Back in the 90’s Florida’s home owners taxes were going crazy and my mother and other people got together and petitioned a Save Our Homes bill that put a rate increase limit for homeowners of 3 percent. The Florida voters voted in. It did take a couple of years to get it through to vote on.
Maybe you could try to get a comparable bill passed in Oklahoma.
That's one of the very few good amendments that we got to vote on. All of the other amendments have been junk dumped on us by Soros and other out of state elites.
Your story would have zero impact on a case like this as this isn't a tax increase; it's a legal assessment. Big difference.
In our county in middle Tennessee, everyone pays an extra $50.00 every year on our tags. First it was to pay for the new school buildings, then it went for the construction on the existing school buildings. But every year you have to pay the extra money for something.
In Indiana, we pay it for roads - wheel tax. So at least we get to drive on our money. If you drive on the school board, people would get upset.
Once they get a wheel tax in, it never goes away
$50.00? A YEAR? Jeeze. Tennessee has no state income tax either. So, how do you propose covering those "needs" when they arise?
I have never heard of a situation like this before. Fire the school board. Let the county sell property to pay for this mess. Sue the teachers involved and sell their stuff.
Good ideas!!!
It's only one of the many ways Corporations and governments are Stealing land, it's only the beginning.
Hawaii fires were the same thing, they also put so many regulations on small land owners farmers that they can't live amd are forced to sell
They count on people being illiterate, unknowledgeable, and not fighting it.
This settlement has to have been approved by the school board at a regularly scheduled school board meeting. Every such meeting must have recorded minutes that are required to be available to be viewed by members of the public via a freedom of information request. Under no circumstances should any official of the District not know how such a decision was made. Any news reporter should know how to make a proper FOIA to obtain that information.
yea thats complete bullshit they should be sued into the ground. pay their debts with the clothes on their backs. slimy that they dont assume responsiblity.
Tax payers should not be responsible for that suit.
@@dt5310 I think the teacher(s) involved and any officials involved in the cover-up should be PERSONALLY responsible for the debt. Seems to me the School Board should go after them directly. This is NOT something that should be passed on to the taxpayers, PERIOD!!!
@@lesadietrich4784I agree but unfortunately that is the way it is. When a city, school or any state government get sued it always goes to the taxpayers no matter what.
They should all have to pay for a bond on themselves where they are liable for their own actions. We had a case like this in our school district down here in Texas but nothing we can do about it.
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Not right at all.
The school board and the people involved in the cover-up should be liable not the uninvolved people of the city or county
it is wrong.
Gonna need a Lawyer. It’s sad, but that’s the only way.
You mean the representatives of the school.
That's not exactly correct. Once the liability insurance or other funds are exhausted in paying the victims then the balance of the agreed upon settlement is on the back of the taxpayers. Doesn't mean there aren't other legal options though.
That is so ate up! The families of the children who were victimized are being charged through taxes for their own suit that they won? fight fight fight!
It's called vote them all out! Local Government is more dangerous than the Federal government!
I'm so sorry for you and all the people that went through all of it. Praying 🙏 for ya'll.
speaking with residents many say they feel punished for the actions of one teacher and school district. While they tell me they agree with the outcome of the lawsuit, they believe the school and teacher should be the ones to pay.
The govt and teachers union (if there is one) are going to claim "qualified immunity," but the courts have ruled that criminal action isn't qualified for immunity. I wonder if the school board that was in office for the cover-up, along with district administration, can be held criminals liable? If so, there might be an avenue of suing them to pay up instead of foisting it on the residents (including the families of the victims).
@@kimfleury how many are actually qualified for that immunity? Cover ups are not qualified for that immunity. Obstruction of justice is not qualified. Present tense board members did not commit the crime or conspire to conceal. They're the ones tasked with cleaning up litterbugs before them. They're also being persecuted having to pay the same bill on their own taxes as the residents. What consequences should apply to people in authority who are abusing their power, or embezzling funds, or facilitating child molesters? These things need to be spelled out in legislation, but the legislators themselves may be implicated as they also enjoy 'qualified immunity' when they really ought not be qualified.
I just read a little about the teacher issue with students. There's 441 households in Salina as of 2022. So 1.6 mil divided by 3 years is approx. 533,333 $. So just each of the 441 households paying their share of the 1.6 the annual tax is $1200. Not counting all the other taxes. You all got screwed by your school!
The tax liability also extends to businesses, vacant parcels, and farms - if there are any in this school district.
They could have financed the debt via a bond over a number of years to reduce the per year burden on the tax payers.
I agree with the person that said the school board is responsible. The people that covered it up and allowed it to happen.
If it's averaged. If it's based on property values some people may get a larger proportion.
@@mrdiggie3321 if it's based on property values then my percentage would be the same as yours. Regardless of the value. If mine is worth twice what yours is, I pay twice as much, but the percentage is the same. The only thing that would affect this is if somehow they cover more than one township, and the other townships millage rate is drastically different for everything else besides the school. Then their increase would be a different percentage of their overall tax bill. But there is NO WAY it would vary from 30% to 200% increase. No way
About 3 1/2 months ago, we just sold our house in Florida. It was built back in the 60s, but it was a concrete block. I bought it back in early 80s and my taxes were under $600 a year. My insurance was like $175 a year and my flood insurance was like $125 Before we sold. Our taxes went up to $6000. Our homeowners insurance was like $5000 and a flood insurance was about $1500 a year . What broke to camels back with our insurance said that they needed to do an inspection because of the age of the house .we knew a neighbor down the street that had the same age house as we and they got the inspection and what they told them was, they needed to replace the hot water heater the air conditioner the electrical( because they had aluminum wire) replace sewer pipes because it was a cast-iron We got tired of every time you turned around they raised our taxes & are insurance , flood insurance so we just decided to say sell it, and we did we received half of what it was worth. WAKE UP PEOPLE. Because this is just beginning.
I li e in Florida and the taxes and home owners insurance is off the chart!!!! My husband is 80 and I’m 73. If we were to sell our home we would not be able to buy another house we could afford. 😡
Another form of "Land Grabs".
What if anything does your post have to do with a lawsuit in Oklahoma? Bringing a house up to current code is expected. Your insurance went up because you to live a state battered by hurricanes and storm surges. That's all on you!
I believe you are correct. There’s a bigger picture at work here and what your not supposed to know is that we will be left “with nothing to own and we will be happy”. If you know you know and may wish you didn’t because the concept is about as depressing and ugly as it gets.
i do 4 point inspections in FLA...people do not understand that a house depreciates (i know the realestate peeps say otherwise)...but the roof ages, plumbing, electrical, heating AC ECT....put 300 bucs back every month to fix all the stuff that wears out or breaks.....most wont....then the shock sets in!
Schools are required to carry insurance to cover all sorts of things, failure to educate, sexual harassment, breaches of duty, neglect, errors or omissions, sports injuries, and bullying activities of the students are among the top insurance concerns. In today’s climate, where the spotlight has been placed on the instances and failures of institutions to report, address and prevent abuse or misconduct, being hyper vigilant to the safety of all under a school’s care is extremely important. Public schools get funding from federal, state, and local taxes. They’re also part of a larger school system and must follow the rules and regulations set by the government. So, something isn't passing the smell test with how the school is handling the situation.
The smell test is the local conspiracy that did an end run around the regulations & policies that would have protected the district & the state. When a crime takes place authorities get notified. How many layers of authorities turned a blind eye is the question that needs answers. Impartial investigations are in order. Investigative journalism is in order.
Thanks!
The community should NOT be held responsible for the school system covering up for some sort of criminal activity
Your lack of involvement allows school board members to do this💩.
Know who your voting for
Like we are when multiple police officers are sued and the city’s insurance costs skyrocket because of multiple payouts (deserved payouts).
@@flyfishing1776it sounds like there was no discussing with public and they just ran with it. His message is to make public aware of tactics. The laws and knowing how we can interpret them is BS. It needs to be clearly explained to residents. Hidden meaning/impact needs to be clear.
Take it to court and fight it.
What gets me is the family’s of the 15 are now having to pay for the lawsuit themselves. If this was going on for 6 years that is sad that it was not brought to a head a lot sooner. I feel very sorry for the 8th grade girls that had to go through this. But the school principal superintendent and the school board should not have let that go on EVER. Those poor girl.
Our city here increased our taxes 163% last year just because they said they "needed" it. Many of us citizens went to fight it at the city council meeting but they didn't care that all the citizens were opposed to it. So now the city employees got big raises, the police force has exponentially increased, and lots of building projects have started. It's crazy what governments get away with nowadays.
Greetings from Northeast Ohio. I looked it up and the whole story is right there. You told a story correctly.
I would be livid if that happened to me. Those who may be low income or on a fixed income probably couldn’t pay it, and risk losing their property over something they had nothing to do with. I looked up the law suit. That teacher definitely should be made to pay, and the school district needs to find another way to pay.
Shutdown all sports and use that money to pay the amount
Why should the althletes have to suffer? They should have sued the individual administrators who were involved in the coverup. Not the school district!@@jasonhaudenshield5220
I live in cook county , IL and 2 years ago they increased my property taxes from 4,000\Yearly to 7,000\Yearly. My insurance on my house has increased from 900.00 to 1,400. My car insurance has increase dramatically as well. It is getting out of control. They are pricing us out of our homes.
I live in St. Clair County illinois. My house insurance went up almost $1600, car insurance $300 every six months and don't even want to talk about real estate taxes. 67% of that goes to the school district..
I live in Rockford and my home owners insurance just tripled!!!
You will rent everything and be happy ~ Klaus Schwab: The unelected guidance counselor of the world
That's exactly what they are want and idk what to do but we have to come together, no matter what, and figure it out. They just trippled our home owners insurance, car insurance and our taxes went up 700$ 2. Insurance was 600$ 2 1800$ car was 160$ 2 255$, taxes 1345$ 2 1900$ . We r in utah.
This is crazy!
Another sad thing about this tax increase is those who are struggling already are at risk of losing their homes for unpaid taxes.
Bingo
Thats what they want then they can turn the area into a solar farm
People should pay attention to infomercials. The next get rich scheme that is advertised on tv is going to affect you some way somehow. What's the new scheme? Tax liens. They are advertising seminars on how to get rich on tax liens on houses. Which means a lot of people are going to start to lose their homes. What was the last scheme? Buying mobile home parks. By Increasing lot fees 1000% they make a huge profit Who loses? Residents who own their trailers. They also eventually lose their homes. Do your homework. They are always scheming and scamming someone out of their property to make a quick buck. The classic fleecing of America!!
Especially those that are old and on fixed income, not everyone is rich at an old age etc.
The vultures will sweep in. "Investor groups" looking for gentrification opportunities, mineral rights, timber rights etc. Properties burdened with large taxes, the sale cannot be completed until those tax liens are paid.
I suggest the present tense landowners need to start thinking about how to make the land pay for itself. Rental space, raise chickens, grow tomatoes, sell electricity with solar panels, hydro, or wind, thin the tree stands selling lumber or firewood. Residents may gain forbearance from the county because there wasn't disclosure enough to let people know a huge increase was coming, but that will be a temporary measure. They could have structured the settlement for them to have longer pay backs, but it will increase the bill with the interest tacked on. Late pays will have fines imposed that also jack up the total losses. Doubtful there's much of a tax break for all these increased expenses either. Federal taxes will offer the most break if you paid into it substantially.
Everyone needs to get together on this, and REFUSE to pay the unfair taxes! I hate property taxes!!
Lemme tell you: even if you go to EVERY school board meeting, so you actually know every thing that happens, it doesn't work.
Then they start having "executive meetings", behind closed doors.
Not just the school board. City Council, County Commissions... once they realized they're being studied, they start making private decisions for the public.
That's when you need to vote them out.
@ph00xy that's easier said than done when so many vote a straight party ticket and don't pay attention to what they're doing.
And trust me: very few pay attention.
Hey Sean, be careful with mixing chicken feed with bare hands. I used to do that until I started getting staph in my fingers from doing that. Doctor said the dust off the feed is what caused that and any type of dew or mist. Please, be careful, it's quite nasty and it hurts.
Wow! Good info.
Why would mixing chicken feed bare handed cause staph? 😮 What’s in it?!
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He stated that the Dr. said it was the dust that caused it.
Inhaling dust isn’t good full stop!
Staph infections can lead to sepsis, a period of painful misery, and a dirt nap.
If surety bonds are required for school personnel or board members in your state, file a claim against their bond(s) if they haven't properly done their job.
This should go back on the school not the citizens.
The citizens pay a good portion of the schools revenue in most American communities. It's on almost all property tax sheets. I suggest reading your own if you're a property owner. I do agree that it shouldn't have been passed on to the citizens. Those that did the deed, and tried to cover it up should be responsible.
I googled it and as far as I'm concerned that coach should be rotting in jail!
It would still come back on homeowners
Transparency comes in the form of the community attending the school board meetings. This is where school budgets are developed. Try getting the school board meetings on RUclips they are supposed to be public meetings after all. People need to be involved in their school board meetings. Lesson learned.
Dutch it probably won't be long before you have either some Dickens or some Chucks !! 😱🤣🤣
Hope this mess can be settled & the residents Don't have to pay for someone else's crimes.
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I googled it and the residents should not have to pay to cover the schools part of the lawsuit. The people of the town didn't do the crime. They need to go after the criminals family for the money.
The crime was the cover up. Which the school did.
Semper Fi, Sean. 🇺🇸
The way I see it, you have two options only and neither one is good.
1) Get rid of that house that put you on the hook or 2)Rally your neighbors to hire an attorney and file a joint class lawsuit, for which would finally give you a voice to stand up against the school district.
Semper Fi, brother. 🤙🏻
Digital- unfortunately if he sells his home he needs to disclose to the prospective new homeowner about the lawsuit and the taxes will come up. Doubt if he can sell it now.
@ I think the best option is for everyone to hire one good attorney and depose the school district to get everything on record. The only problem that I can see with that is that a financial loss only comes after Sean pays those taxes. So basically, he’s stuck with those taxes for the next three years. 😢
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I don't send comments often, but I always like to share, and of course, I am subscribed.
Merry Christmas to you all. From me, Jeanne in Maine. Prayers to you in this tax issue, it's really crazy.. but God is on your side.. you are amazing and we love you all so much.
Thank you again for all uploads, especially the hens and roosters.
God bless.
Wonderful post❤
Sounds the same as every time a police department gets sued. The officer involved doesn't get sued and have to pay, the residents pay it. You want to get super pissed off, research officer involved lawsuits and the amounts and the details involving the lawsuits and the people pay the lawsuit and the officer is still employed...
20:15 - What do you get when you cross a rooster with a duck? Looks like Foghorn Leghorn and Daffy are moving to Thilver Lake, CA!
Dang
I was glad to see I wasn’t the only one who saw that happening !! LOL
That school board is doing you like that rooster is to them ducks.
EXACTLY
A law like this needs repealing.
Winning comment !!!!!!😅
LOL--but you are Right...
Truer words have never been spoken...
That's just wrong on so many levels. The residents that are affected by this should all get together and get an attorney to represent you all. You could all put your taxes into an escrow account until the matter is resolved. Because all of you should not be on the hook for it. And sue the school board.
The school board represents the school so the district is still on the hook
Every state is different but you need to have a vote of no confidence and see what legal rights you have. Increasing taxes is a legislative issue and there should be a way for your community to protest your taxes. Taxation without representation? Levies must be voted and pass to increase your taxes!
What is the limit they can increase the property tax on a calendar year. What were they taxing before? The land's value. Or land and structures?
The people are not responsible for the school
All property taxes can be taxation without representation. Individuals who own property in a taxing area but live elsewhere, and all businesses, have no vote for school board, town council, county council and commissioners, referendums, levies, mills, legislators, etc. Classic taxation without representation. Also, property tax in many places is a tax on unrealized gain. If the assessed value goes up and it causes tax to go up, you pay more tax while realizing no gain (until it is sold.) And if the assessed value later goes down, will they rebate the excess tax on gain which can never be realized? Norfolk & Way.
The school/school boards should be required to disclose 'problems' as they arise ( respecting student privacy of course).
The school needs to increase their insurance liability
Why doesn’t the school file bankruptcy??? This shouldn’t be put on the residents of your town!!!!!!!
The residents should get together and sue those who did the coverup and the teacher who did wrong; they are the ones who should be paying the 1.6 million.
The board was involved in a conspiracy to violate the rights of the citizens. Hiding malfeasance. They can successfully be sued. 😊
Unfortunately the were employees of the school system and the school system apparently had knowledge and is culpable. THAT places the citizens on the hook for the bill.
@@joneskendrick2084 the school system is comprised of individuals, some of which were in authority or supervisory capacity. ALL parties that obstructed justice enabling a molester in the school need to be held account.
I'm just so confused on why the officials that made this mistake are not penalized, why the town? If a caregiver makes a mistake they get fired and blacklisted Nationally. If a politician or law official makes a mistake they can pass it on to the taxpayers possibly lose their job, but just move 1 county/city over and get another job. Hold the people in power liable not the taxpayers.
It’s not a mistake! Just to be clear…what happened was a crime…not a mistake! Adults don’t mistakenly molest children.
@@Americandreamofcreditdebt Not a mistake! They all made choices!
@@user-cn8wu2ok5s im not talking about any of the specific actions or mistakes. Im talking about the repercussions of the event causing the public to pay the price for 1 individuals actions. Hard to believe a school couldn't come up with money, all they realistically have to do is advertise or lease out the products they use every day. School food now sponsored by McDonalds for 3 years or art and shop classes are now landscaping and drywall installation classes for the school to teach a trade and make back there debt to society.
You got that right, once they got money, you will never ever see it go away😔😔
That is 💯 taxation without representation. It’s not your burden to offset a legal ruling. Class action lawsuit is in order.
No it isn't. Jeeze
Our school taxes this year was wild also, we paid like $480 just in property taxes to our school district and another $200 from our utility bills and misc bills that we get monthly. We don't have any kids, so we are paying for other kids to get an education.
I'm sorry for you living in a FREE country,
@@carlomartin6156 surely you jest, this country was never free, someone paid the price.
That’s nothing. I pay $7000 a year taxes on a starter home and most goes to schools.
@@dianelavoie6208 starter homes can be expensive depends on where you live. My home is only valued at 50k and taxes are increasingly expensive in my area.
You were a child once, went to school for free, and now you pay it back as an adult to the next generation. Huge increases in school taxes usually means they kicked the can down the road on maintenance (the previous decade of reduced taxes people enjoyed) and now they're forced to get it done all at once or outright build a new school. I assume you're a first time home owner of that starter home- a stitch in time saves nine. Don't slouch on maintenance or you won't be getting the mileage you counted on. Read up on plumbing before you have plumbing emergencies. Trust me.
yep looked it up, SALINA, Okla. - A lawsuit stemming from a lewd molestation case in Salina Public Schools is forcing taxpayers to foot the bill.
2 News spoke with one parent who said it feels like they’re being punished for the actions of one teacher and the school district.
The school got sued for the cover up. The revenue for the district comes from property tax. I guess they could shutdown all the sports for 5 years and pay it that way
I would get all the community together and sue the teacher that this involves , force them to foot the bill but back to the community
@@jasonhaudenshield5220 Yes, they can curtail any expenses not required by state law. Then let those teachers go when contracts expire. Spread the pain around. Still gotta pay the settlement, but maybe the taxpayers could be made whole by 15 or 20 years of bare bones education. Would be a big boost for any private/parochial schools nearby when everyone who can, sends kids there.
THEY ARE BEING PUNISHED !
A million dollars liability insurance for a school system is ridiculous. Personally sue the school board members for negligence in carrying adequate insurance.
I needed $2 million liability insurance on my car to drive kids for organizations I worked for and volunteered with. How can a school DISTRICT have only $1 million?!
Dutch, this profile is common in many states and school districts. Most school districts have an insurance policy like your echool district. They hope that a law suite never happens. I live in Georgia and once I reached 65, my school taxes were eliminatedoing which cut my yearly bill by 60 to 70 percent. This situation is a common example of what you need to explore before buying into a school district. When I moved 38 years ago, I asked my legal lawyer if the county I wanted to move into was safe and had money to cover law suites? He said yes for my future county and school district but no to several others around my suggested property.
Sorry this is happening to you. I just did the simplest thing and googled it and it said no the school district cannot pass that lawsuit over to the residence. Don't accept what they say time to get a lawyer.
That is crazy!! Why should the people pay for the schools crap? That school district should take it out of their budget and the teachers. It’s not the people of Salina’s fault.
This is about "liability" not "fault". There is a difference.
Ironic that a nation founded based on a tax revolt can have this type of tax problem.
LMAO
That’s why we the people have amendments granted by God and our founding fathers and why our government has been chipping away at it so diligently,😢
So the school district is not responsible for their wrongdoings? The residents are now responsible for what the school district is settling for. There is no penalty for the school district. That is ridiculous. I didn’t know it could happen that way either. Geez!!
The taxpayers ARE in fact the school district! It's not a them v us matter. Believe it or not the board may have actually SAVED the taxpayer's money by settling v a full on court trial. Has anyone considered THAT possibility given the sensitive details of the events plus minors being involved?
Y'all are not responsible. The adult criminals are
The property owners are the school district. School district financial responsibilities are tax payer responsibilities.
@@joneskendrick2084 it is an Us vs Them matter when people who write laws and policies, and those who selectively (unevenly) enforce laws, put themselves above the law. Many failures happened in positions of authority, and none of them face consequences as they ought to.
Unfortunately, this is what you get when you have publicly funded schools. Schools only source of income is the school tax. If they have an unexpected expense, they don't have anywhere else to go for the money.
Dutch love and enjoy your videos. May the lord bless and protect you and your family and the animals.
Thanks so much
It's awful and I'm sorry you are going through this. Our property taxes went up by $1200 this year too. And, of course, we aren't notified either or have any warning it would go up so much. We got the notice of re-assessment but had no idea it would go up that much. It could be happening all over. In our case, it more than likely is all the brand new schools and remodeling the old schools. We didn't have children and therefore had no children in the local schools and we've certainly paid our fair share since, for our own schooling. But we have had a rash of new schools and then they remodel the old schools and re-use for this, that and the other. Between the hospital and schools, they own a LOT of real estate and just keep needing more and more money to keep it all up, landscaped and new buildings. Our high school was built about 3 years ago. We were told it would only raise our taxes an average of $50/year, but, as I said, ours went up $1200. Our new high school is on a plot of land with hundreds of acres of which they have to keep landscaped. It has a huge baseball field that rivals the new league baseball field in town, huge football field (both fields replete with jumbotrons), soccer fields, gym with basketball court, acres of asphalt parking lots, an outdoor amphitheater (which is NEVER used because it's too close to the busy road and too far from the school buildings), a pond with water fountain and an auditorium. The cafeteria rivals any restaurant. They have custom buses for the football team. Tax paying citizens are not allowed to use any of the features of the school because of school violence. We have to protect the students (and I agree) so NO ONE is allowed on the premises to walk the track fields or use the ampitheatre. I used to live across from a school and I often used the track field to walk when school wasn't in session. Now it's all fenced and custodians tell you to get off school property (even during the summer). As for city services we have garbage pickup and yard waste pickup. And since Hurricane Helene we've not had ANY yard waste pickup for 3 months. They "contracted with a company to do that" and so far, they have done little of it. We had no damage from the hurricane but it's leaf season and so you can't drive down our little street in our nice neighborhood for all the leaf piles in the street! I'm not exaggerating! What gets me, we used to live on a farm and I know how low the taxes are on unimproved land and farm land. But, with the burst of population (thank you, illegal aliens) and the people moving from high cost-of-living states like California, New York, etc, our city is busting at the seams. All that empty land is being built on with lots of less than 1/2 an acre. That means 100 acres of farmland that used to be billed $600 in property taxes is now subdivided into 200 1/2 acre lots with $300k homes on them which should bring in $400,000+ (if you average $2,000 taxes per house, but it's much more now, as our own house is $7,000/year but that is city taxes, county homes are less). Yet, they can't keep up with the school building and the city services? Where is all that money going? It's not going to road improvements, etc. But your situation may explain where a lot of money is going (besides in everybody's corrupt double dipping pockets). Maybe we are settling suits also and we just don't know about it. It is really distressing to know that those of us who have worked hard, planned ahead, tried to do all the right things (and paid our taxes and bills all our lives) and they could raise our taxes so high we could still lose our homes even if we paid for them and owe no mortgage on them. I almost had one house paid for. We were real proud of that. But then realized, if they raise our taxes and keep raising them, we could lose our house because we don't have the cash to pay our high taxes. I don't want to be house rich and cash poor. I had a friend like that. She and her husband had paid off their mortgage. But he's gone and she's on a fixed income and can't afford repairs, taxes and insurance. The house has been let go so long that it's not going to bring much money if she was physically able to sell it and move. She's stuck. And, on top of that, she can no longer use her upstairs as she can't go up the stairs. She lives in half the house with just a half bath downstairs. She can't afford to have the grass mown, the toilet fixed, a new refrigerator. I guess it's better than a tent but not by much. So I quit worrying about paying the mortgage off. It's low interest and tax deductible.
Yes it can happen it happened in Jackson County Missouri and there's a whole bunch of lawsuits and a criminal investigation into the giant tax increase and that was about a year and a half ago and it's still ongoing
Wow, Sounds Like Homesteaders Needs To Lawyer Up! This Is Insane And Glad You Looked Into This Dutch!
Hey Dutch my Cousin has a small farm and also mixes his own feed because it's cheaper that way so what he did was buy a cheap concrete mixer to mix his feed. He says it was a game changer. Might be an ideal way for you to mix feed. Just a thought..
Jackson County in MO raised our assessed value 194.6% last year and then the assessor claimed it had nothing to do with our real estate tax! And there was supposed to be a 15% limit annually. Then the state sued the county, but the county can't backtrack because they have already spent last year's collection!
OHH YES THEY CAN DON,T LET THEM BULLSHIT YOU.
assessed value up our house value went up 250%this year and then the assessor claimed it wouldn't raise our real estate tax, guess what, Our taxea went up 250%
@@carlbenj1668 That's the thing why would anyone believe a snake in a suit?
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Sean, this tax bill is crazy. The financial burden should not be fixed by the residents. I am so sorry the tax payers are going through this.
That’s not fair why should the residents have to pay for school district’s mistake
The residents ARE the school district. They can be held liable. The real question is who (county, school board, insurance co.) agreed to settle in the first place without at least a public hearing or notification and why was there not enough insurance to cover this liability?
Appeal the lawsuit. People were not responsible. They should have settled for the limit on the policy.
That is horrible for people already struggling barely able to afford food.
Prayers for health and safety.🙏❤️🙏
These lawsuits are happening all over the country.I just got a notice that 2 lots I have in delaware are being assessed for over Twice as much as they have been
if you hired someone to do work for your company and they do something that gets your company sued, the owners of the company have to pay - your school system works like that.
That whole situation was horrible and it is sad and inexcusable the district did not protect the girls involved but then for the city to not prepare residents and be honest was just as bad. I am a retired educator and I did not know the city would have to bail the district out like this. Some families truly can't come up with that money.
You all need to contact State Representative, this is absolutely illegal. They are just hoping people won't protest
Where else would the money come from? I guess shutting down the sports program is possible
The teacher involved should belong to a teacher association NEA or an Oklahoma teacher association which usually has insurance in case a teacher is sued for misconduct.
We had to separate our ducks and chickens. The ducks kept breading the chicken hens. They did it so much the hens had no feathers on their backs.
The same is happening in Morris, OK. Property taxes went up for everyone in the Morris School district. The school had a million dollar insurance policy and the lawsuit exceeded the insurance policy. Kingfisher school district is also dealing with something similar, but they chose to let staff go instead of raising property taxes, at least according to the News on 6 report.
Dutch, tax increases are happening all over. Brick & mortar libraries, fire stations, police depots, tax/tag agencies. Just to name a few.I can count 4 parks with swimming pools (one with an inside river run),1 skate park, within a 15 min drive from my house. My county, Gwinette County Ga bought a 16.5 million defunct shopping mall. It was originally reported as a 23 mill purchase. My local community just incorporated as a city. Can't wait to see what that brings to my door step.
Something similar happened where I was in Illinois, nowhere near Chicago. My tax bill was $9400 on a 60 yr old 1450sqft, no basment city lot home, we left. Our schools lost their minds in Illinois............
We lived in Central farm land Illinois, we moved out to Oklahoma..we saw years ago what blue welfare voters in Chicago were always out numbering the farmers vote and working class vote.
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You got that right!
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Lock up the rooster.... he's naughty
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We are in Oklahoma and this is very wrong! Stand up to this! We are dealing with a corrupt county assessor in Logan county. Extreme taxation and a felon is working in the office. Taxation! This cannot be done. I am with the grassroots in Oklahoma we are fighting against property tax period! Merry Christmas! Wendy🇺🇸🙏🏻
It's not bad enough that all the residents are being forced to pay for the bad actions of the school board members they voted for or whoever was responsible for the cover-up. It gets worse: the families of the victims have to pay increased taxes, too. So sure, they're getting whatever the lawyers don't take, but then they have to turn around and give it back to the school district. The whole thing sounds fishy.
It's just a welcome to the world of property taxes. 😊😊😊 Wait to your property tax bill adjusts, for non-homestead. (This rental property). That could be a video too?
A similar thing happened here in Nebraska. Beatrice NE cops arrested a group of 7 people in a crime and they spent several years in jail before they were found to be innocent and the county was found liable for this unjustified arrest. The 7 got a huge law suit settlement against the county and they charged the property owners with a higher property tax to pay for the negligence of these cops that arrested these innocent people.
The residents shouldn't have had to pay, but it's the jury that covicts and the prosecuter who prosecutes (with or without evidence), not the police. They were just doing their job, to the best of their ability.
We used to mix horse feed, especially during the winter. Sweet feed would turn into a brick. We had a small chest freezer that we used.
Question: Do the school board members live in the town or own property in the town?
Sounds like you guys have to sue the school. Don't schools have a budget? Not sure that schools can actually increase property taxes. This is worth further research. This was very worthwhile. Thank you.
They had the opportunity to provide a larger insurance policy, 1 million dollars, barely covers two auto accidents. My home town insured their own vehicles with the minimum policy, ergo our budget was on the hook for any overage, ergo taxes went up The policy was tiny compared to the payouts we incured
Sorry to hear this, hopefully it gets sorted out quickly…
ALL THE BEST big fella…
We had a gentleman here who had the taxes rebated by putting it on the recall vote. That man has passed but his legacy lives on. Maybe you all can put it on for recall election.😊 We have a limit of increase by law.
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LMAO I guess they can cut the sports program for 5 years.
1. It is important to know when your respective districts are voting on school budgets, our school taxes are over $3K, property taxes are $4K (we have 13.3 acre farm), senior citizens and never had any children. The voting usually only draws about 1500 - 1800 voters for a multi million dollar budget. The population is probably around 20,000 residents. 2. The state teachers association should provide coverage through the unions, etc. 3. It should not be dumped on the laps of the remaining citizens, when the district can’t keep their teachers covered. 4. A class action suit against the the teacher and/or the district might be considered. Seems Salina lost a lot of its viable tax base with the tornado this past spring, which would put more of the burden on fewer remaining residents and businesses. Talk about punching someone in the gut when they are already knocked down. The state needs to be involved. But the same thing happens with police and qualified immunity, lawsuits end up costing the tax payers. When the money should come out of pension funds and unions. God bless!
That class action lawsuit would just mean they are taxing themselves to pay that judgement
I was trying to figure out how to say this exact thing. In Michigan they vote to increase the millage. So if you don't vote at the smaller elections you don't have a say in the outcome
Lawsuits should come out of pension funds and unions? Whatever 401k/pension fund values assigned to individual criminals should be forfeit to pay this suit. Again, punishing all the honest teachers is just another way to shift the blame off the guilty. Unions don't hire molesters, supervise molesters or enable molesters in any way. Unions are there for employees who are wrongfully accused, and once convicted, they are severed from the ranks. There is no get out of jail free card offered by the unions. The administrative school district hierarchy did this, and you blame the entire teaching profession.
My parents live in Salina. My dad has leukemia and lymphoma and can no longer work. My mom is the sole provider and they are struggling to pay their property taxes this year. They went up by a significant amount. Thank you for covering this. They worked hard all of their lives to have their property paid for, and now they are having to pay for someone else's mistakes. Sad.
Same here in Vermont. Last year property taxes went up 13.9%, this year it’s going up another 5.9%. All for school budgets! Sure it’s statewide not local but a burden on all of us!!
Good evening from Syracuse NY everyone thank you for sharing your adventures and your farm
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@KeepingItDutch I enjoy watching all the videos put out by your family
Wait what.. that's not a million dollar property.. is there gold.. liquid gold.. dimands in the ground. This is crazy.. school system should never up your taxes that high.. man that's bad
That is crazy, I carry 5 X that on my business insurance and you have to have that for ALL federal contracts…
The school should have been MADE to sue the teacher for damages and jailed till payment is completed…..
We have no idea what the total settlement amount was. I bet it was several times the amount taxpayers are left with raising.
It's negligent of the school to only carry a million dollar policy in these times. They probably could have got a 5 million policy for a few hundred dollars a year more
Who is on this school board? The ones responsible for the issue! You all need to sue them back. Get everyone of them. Make them pay.😊
Interesting. Our county lost a lawsuit (that they fought in court) for breach of contract, and they had to pay ten million. You guessed it…that ten million was applied to our taxes! For seven years! It was just paid off this last year. But my property taxes still went up over $100 this year supposedly because they had “under assessed” the value of my home LAST year. You said it right. Once they get extra coming in, they won’t let it go. They will find some reason to keep getting it.
So a teacher does "something" to students, the school administration covers it up, gets sued, and the school board ok's the cost being put onto the residents. Government at its finest.
They either get additional money coming in. OR they cut the sports program.
I would expect the money added to the tax bill is only a portion of the actual settlement cost. Their liability insurance was probably exhausted by a significant amount and there is no place to turn for the settlement shortfall.
Crazy. Never own anyone. Don't pay the taxes they will take your land.
That's a bunch of horse poo! I hope you guys can do something about that mess. The whole town should refuse to pay that BS.
The rate increase will never go away even if/once they've paid the difference. There's also the prospect they know they're going to need the future funds in case they responsible parties get sued further (especially if any of those responsible are still part of the school district employees or board).
Try adding water to your feed and letting it sit for three days to ferment.. will save you 30% on your feed bill.
It was the COVER UP that caused the situation to worsen - IF the school board had done their job correctly - then - the situation would have been much less.