@@dannyjames8894 He’s one of my favorites too! Always been one of my favorite Disney villains. Wish he was added in a new KH game. Or in some other Disney media. R.I.P. David Odgen Stiers
what i love about Ratcliffe was that he wasn't a coward, he fought side by side of his men. He wasn't fat, he's actually very bulky and strong. He doesn't love his men but he doesn't treat them like shit
True... but regarding fat... he is WELL FED.... but back then the bigger you where the wealthier you where... But completely agree with the definitely not a coward bit! x
The real John Ratcliffe wasn't a villain at all. He and his colony willingly traded with the indians for years but unfortunately he was scalped and skinned alive in 1609, Werowocomoco, Virginia.
I like Governor Ratcliffe, mostly because of his facial expressions are ones that I would make in those circumstances, and he's funny and have a Wiggins. XD
I laughed the first time that Wiggins thought that Ratcliffe would give them "gift baskets" since he didn't know what Ratcliffe meant by "proper English greeting" he will shoot the savages.
The irony is that gift baskets are much closer to the actual historical account of Ratcliffe's intentions... Yet he was brutally murdered by the Powhatans...
The ironic thing is that if Ratcliffe had been smart, he would have realized that gold isn’t the only way to make money. He could have made a fortune in the lumber industry with those massive trees.
Indeed Ratcliffe was standing on a gold mine of a different variety. True the wood isn't worth much when they arrived but just think if he used all that wood for forts, fences, posts, polls, shelter for his men and trading. He would have made a fortune in lumber and wood if he played his cards right.
R.I.P. David Ogden Stiers. He was an amazing American actor. In other words, that man was hysterical. Just remember that his voice of Governor Ratcliffe and Wiggins will always be there for everyone.
Bragi the Skaldic King Actually the Chinese discovered it earlier and had maps of the Pacific coast of the Americas. Also they found burial urns in the islands of West coast of Africa with tobacco which imply that the Americas was likely discovered and rediscovered throughout human history.
armour suit she was so handsome purple coat I'm in love with Ratcliffe's wife and husband and daughter beautiful family Wiggins pug dog Percy so cute and beautiful 😍❤️ Veronica Johnson from Edmonton Canada brown hair brown eyes glasses pink
David Ogden Steers played the voice of Ratcliffe, Cogsworth, and the Archdeacon from "The Hunchback of Notre Dame." That's three Disney movies that he voiced one of the characters.
All the Disney villains are good singers with their songs being some of the most popular songs in movies. Ratcliffe, Frollo, Jafar, Scar, Ratigan, and Ursula all make such great music. They're talented singers.
R.I.P. David Odgen Stiers Voice of Ratcliffe, Wiggins, Jumba and Cogsworth. Miss you and all the others that are not here with us. Please be in Heaven with God and not in the wrong place.
"Ooh, gift baskets!" See, THIS is why I love Wiggins. Though not exactly cool and kind of naive, he definitely is friendly and sweet and has the right idea about how the Native Americans should be treated! And he KNOWS what the settlers did wrong to cause the Natives to attack them. "Wiggins, why do you think those savages attacked us?" "Because we took over their land and cut down their trees and dug up their earth." You can't get more obvious than that, and Ratcliffe is stupid enough and too blinded by greed to see that. Way to go, Wiggins!
David Ogden Stiers ' performance as Ratcliffe is criminally underrated. Say what you will about Ratcliffe's character development but every single line he delivers in this movie just SLAPS.
In Finnish dub Ratcliffe's voice actor is actually the same as Captain Hook. Well, almost, they used different voice actor for the beginning of "Savages".
They were voiced by actors that also voiced another character in this film and a servant in high pitch in two films that take place in France (David Ogden Stiers, who voiced Radcliffe, also voiced Wiggins in the same film and previously Cogsworth the mantel clock in Beauty and the Beast; Hans Conried, who voiced Captain Hook, also voiced Mr Darling in the same film and later Lord Duke the Announcer in Sleeping Beauty)
I think we all had teachers or staff who were like Ratcliffe, people you always seem welcoming and calm, you don't always know what people are like until you really know them, and as a change in someone's character like him there's some antagonistic to a person coming across as malicious, crotchety, mean, grumpy or even irate
I remember from my childhood, the Pocahontas tape story book, my crazy younger brother messes with my Mom by showing her, Ratcliffe! She was like, "Guh! Brendan keeps showing me that ugly old man!" 🤣!!!!!!
I think along with Bill Sykes from Oliver and Company, and Scroop from Treasure Planet. Governor Ratcliffe is one of the most underrated Disney Villains ever.
Ratcliffe's song, "Mine, Mine, Mine" is a homograph with both meanings of the word "mine." He's telling his men to mine and that the gold they find is his.
I guess what makes him "evil" is that he deliberately is spreading hate to get what he wants, which makes him a pretty believable villain in my opinion
It's probably true that they took artistic liberties to make him a more unlikeable character, but I also like that Mr. Stiers provided Ratcliffe's voice. For those who may be unaware, he also voiced Cogsworth in Beauty and the Beast and the Archdeacon in The Hunchback of Notre Dame.
"During The Starving Time in December 1609 or early 1610, Ratcliffe and 25 fellow colonists were invited to a gathering with a large group of Powhatan Indians.[1] The Englishmen were promised they would be given corn in return for copper, but it was a trap.[citation needed] The colonists were given food baskets that were nearly empty, the Powhatan Indians ambushed them, and Ratcliffe was taken to the village. Only two colonists escaped.[citation needed] Ratcliffe suffered a particularly gruesome fate: he was tied to a stake in front of a fire.[citation needed] Women removed the skin from his entire body with mussel shells and tossed the pieces into the flame as he watched.[citation needed] They skinned his face last and finally burned him at the stake.[citation needed] This story was documented in an eyewitness account that is included in The Jamestown Adventure: Accounts of the Virginia Colony, 1605-1614 (Real Voices, Real History), edited by Ed Southern (published 2004). How this account only surfaced in 2004 is unknown. He was given the nickname Luckless Captain Ratcliffe.[citation needed]"
While Ratcliffe may not be motivated by revenge (i.e. Ursula, Hades, Captain Hook) or hide behind the guise of religion (i.e. Frollo), his greed does become all-consuming. It is interesting to note, though, that David Ogden Stiers, the actor who portrayed Governor Ratcliffe, also provided the voice of some other memorable Disney characters (i.e. Cogsworth, the Archdeacon in HoND), as well as starring in a more obscure live-action Disney film titled Iron Will.
Wiggins was one of the most human of the white men, he wanted to be friends and give out gift baskets, but no, Radcliffe had to preform genocide and screw everything up !
Herr Larson You're right it is a little weird that the whites are demonized as the Nazi-Racists(not this movie), when some of the Native-Americans we're just as prejudiced towards the settlers. I guess we're just talking plain and simple Human-Nature sometimes!
@@Deader87 I'm not sure if I'm correct,cause you know the internet is full of half truths and lies. But I remember seeing something about how the Native Americans and the English were very peaceful. And how Pocahontases tribe even gave food to the English untill a famine hit, and then that's when the English attacked the Natives and demanded for food. Again I could be wrong but that's what I heard. I can go find and site the sources if you want.
Ok, so when I first watched this movie as a kid, at first, when Ratcliffe was motivating the crew with his speech to have heart and keep going, I thought "Oooh, this guy's cool! What a great speech!" But then when I realized at 1:00 that he was only saying those things to give them the energy they need to dig up his gold, this was my reaction --> " -__- ....I hate you already..." And my hatred for him grew from there on.
While Ratchliffe is jerk, I think the way he is portrayed in the movie, he is pretty mellow for his time. For ex. he spares Thomas after he accidentally almost shoots Ratcliffe. in real life that would have lead to court martial, accident or not. He's still not a nice guy by any stretch of imagination by today's standards but real life 17th century governor would have been much much much worse. And I actually like him as a villain, despicable though his methods may be, I can relate to him in his lust for gold (I'm a greedy freak as well :) ).
This man put his fellow man through arduous work for metals (gold), had people killed because he saw them as inferior or different from his ideology(his attempted murder of the native Americans), and constantly referred to them as heathens out of some belief on religious superiority. I guess he is the representation of the dark nature of powerful civilizations or elitist groups.
Ratcliffe isn't really evil, he is just a greedy man. This is why he is a realistic villain unlike the second movie where he is the classic vengeful villain.
This is quite possibly the biggest case of slander in movie history. John Ratcliffe was not an evil, greedy, genocidal lunatic, but rather very generous in his dealings with the Powhatan Nation. Too generous, according to some, and among his real-life faults was also the impractical idea of building a large residence for himself in Virginia. It is ironic that he met his death at the hands of the Powhatans, who led him and what remained of the colonists (the others having all died from illness) into a trap, flayed him alive, and burned him at the stake.
That part where Ratcliffe attempts to shoot the chief Powhatan despite the fact that John Smith was saved from execution, that technically would of been a war crime because the Indians retreated not wanting to of starting the war
Voices: Ratcliffe/Wiggins- David Ogden Stiers John Smith- Mel Gibson Thomas- Christian Bale Percy- Danny Mann Ben- Billy Connolly Lon- Joe Baker Powhatan- Russell Means Pocahontas- Irene Bedard
Like when you think of reality, you don't know what people are like until you really know when meeting them, people always come into your life for a reason and decide whether to be friends with them or not
The part where Ratcliffe attempted to assassinate Powhatan in spite of Pocahontas saving the day would of technically of been an illegal war thus making him a true villain just as both sides drew their weapons not wanting to fight either
DAYUM! Poor Ratcliffe... O___O I guess that he's a villian in the movie in order to match him to the plot. Shame, they could make him a good guy and make another villian.
Pocahontas pretty much saved the natives from getting demolished and slaughtered. The settlers had cannons, muskets, and armor. The natives had bows and blunt weapons. With just bows for range, ratcliffes armor and the settlers helmets would have countered them. The natives would have been screwed.
Thomas was under Gov. Ratcliffe's radar when using the gun and ordering him around on what he was expected of the governor pressuring him doing things that's not in his nature. Finally at the end of the movie, Thomas stands up to him and have his say while seeing John Smith being shot at the same time. What a friend! He deserves to be leader.
I swear Ratcliffe has a hat very similar to Guy Fawkes which could be a fitting description and reference just like in real life that King James vi of Scotland/I of England was apparently friends with Guy Fawkes only to be betrayed
Governor Ratcliffe is an underrated villain. David Ogden Stiers (RIP) manages to make him both enjoyably over-the-top and menacing. Plus, his dual performance as Governor Ratcliffe and Wiggins is one of the best parts of the movie.
Governor Ratcliffe is greedy,deluded,pompous,haughty,dignified,obnoxious,snobbish,argumentative,evil,rude,selfish,arrogant,vain,racist,persuasive,calculating,elegant,bossy,hateful,cold,smug,lazy,stubborn,quarrelsome,cunning,ruthless,sarcastic,intelligent,collected,brutal,easily flustered,grouchy,bad-tempered,murderous and sadistic.
Ratcliffe admits he's not popular! He broke the 4th wall with that remark.
@@shanefraley827 I love the big boy
he is one of my favorites to be fair.
Maybe not popular but he’s certainly my favourite who is not Zira or Scar, Govey is handsome af.
@@dannyjames8894 He’s one of my favorites too! Always been one of my favorite Disney villains. Wish he was added in a new KH game. Or in some other Disney media. R.I.P. David Odgen Stiers
Ratcliff was absolutely the perfect villain for Pocahontas
My thoughts exactly.
@Mahakala That's why Disney had to have the settlers send him back to England to jail.
🤦♂One problem, Ratcliff isn't, wasn't and he will never be popular. 🤦♂
He's very realistic villain but compared to other Disney villains he's kinda forgettable
what i love about Ratcliffe was that he wasn't a coward, he fought side by side of his men. He wasn't fat, he's actually very bulky and strong. He doesn't love his men but he doesn't treat them like shit
Thank you very much for this comment! Yes, he is definitely not a coward! I love Ratcliffe.
True... but regarding fat... he is WELL FED.... but back then the bigger you where the wealthier you where... But completely agree with the definitely not a coward bit! x
His voice range was great! Playing both the Gov and Wiggins.
"And gag him as well!" Thomas taking control and silencing Ratcliffe is perfect
The real John Ratcliffe wasn't a villain at all. He and his colony willingly traded with the indians for years but unfortunately he was scalped and skinned alive in 1609, Werowocomoco, Virginia.
dmmct99 so his story was “Twisted”
G E T R E K T 905 yeah basically
@Huginn Hjartarson yes
@@IcyDiamond They kind of reversed his and John Smith's personalities in real life for this movie.
@@slipstreamxr3763 they did?
I like Governor Ratcliffe, mostly because of his facial expressions are ones that I would make in those circumstances, and he's funny and have a Wiggins. XD
I love his "I'm surrounded by idiots"-look when he says about Wiggins that "he came so highly recommended". :D
Ratcliffe and Wiggins talking to each other is always funny to me, since they're voiced by the same guy.
The Drunken Coward Thanks never knew that no matter how many times I've seen this movie!
O_O
It was planned the same for Jafar and Iago, but that was scrapped
Because their Gay couples just stick with that
Plot Twist: Wiggins is all in Rattigans head
Rat cliff was the best Disney villain... “I’ll need those witless peasants to dig up my gold” hahaha brilliant
I laughed the first time that Wiggins thought that Ratcliffe would give them "gift baskets" since he didn't know what Ratcliffe meant by "proper English greeting" he will shoot the savages.
The irony is that gift baskets are much closer to the actual historical account of Ratcliffe's intentions... Yet he was brutally murdered by the Powhatans...
RIP David Ogden Stiers :(
The ironic thing is that if Ratcliffe had been smart, he would have realized that gold isn’t the only way to make money. He could have made a fortune in the lumber industry with those massive trees.
What? You know there’s a difference between GOLD and simple WOOD... What you gonna do with wood? Make pencils? Lol
Indeed Ratcliffe was standing on a gold mine of a different variety. True the wood isn't worth much when they arrived but just think if he used all that wood for forts, fences, posts, polls, shelter for his men and trading. He would have made a fortune in lumber and wood if he played his cards right.
I noticed Ratcliffe is the only Disney villain who has 2 songs: "Mine Mine Mine" and "Savages".
True, if only Scar had the Be Prepared reprise.
Claude Frollo has 2 songs: "Out there" (this one is very short) and "Hellfire".
Personally I think Ratchliffe is awesome villain never underestimate the power of greed. It isn't any worse motive than revenge, power, love or lust.
Jaakko Keskinen or hate
It's so sad though the real Ratcliffe was not a bad man and the Indians tortured him to death horrifically.
It's kind of hilarious that the actor behind him also plays Wiggins.
TNTV Inc Not to mention the Archdeacon in Disney's adaptation of the Hunchback of Notre Dame.
He also plays a mad scientist known as Jumba Jookiba.
Cogsworth in Beauty and the Beast also.
Has anyone ever notice how Wiggins never really interacts with anyone else other than Ratcliffe and Percy?
R.I.P. David Ogden Stiers. He was an amazing American actor. In other words, that man was hysterical. Just remember that his voice of Governor Ratcliffe and Wiggins will always be there for everyone.
John Smith had an American accent before America even existed.
Hipster.
Logic: Before America was discovered by the Europeans, it *didn't exist*.
Bragi the Skaldic King
Actually the Chinese discovered it earlier and had maps of the Pacific coast of the Americas. Also they found burial urns in the islands of West coast of Africa with tobacco which imply that the Americas was likely discovered and rediscovered throughout human history.
jigmond I think I heard something about it being the accent that they spoke with in the Early Modern era (the 17th century)
Australian...
most underrated villain ever next to Clayton.
I think that's mainly because he sucks :\
cbolanz1 True.
CJCroen1393 No, you're wrong!
Clayton was just a pathetic poacher, Radcliffe means genocide
Percival Mcleech is more underrated than both of them combined
RIP David Ogden Stiers, the Voice of Governor Ratcliff. (1942 - 2018)
And Wiggins, Cogsworth and the Archdeacon.
Governer Ratcliffe often reminds me of king Henry viii as they're both fat people, ruthless, greedy, brutal assholes, strict, tyrant and are British.
Oh right
ratcliffe identified as english in the movie bro not british
Henry VIII was only fat during his later years, after a serious leg injury.
GOD! Ratcliffe looked SCARY as hell in that armour suit! 😱
GOD! Ratcliffe looked SCARY as hell in that armour suit! 😱
Yeah! He looked like a beast from hell!
armour suit she was so handsome purple coat I'm in love with Ratcliffe's wife and husband and daughter beautiful family Wiggins pug dog Percy so cute and beautiful 😍❤️ Veronica Johnson from Edmonton Canada brown hair brown eyes glasses pink
David Ogden Steers played the voice of Ratcliffe, Cogsworth, and the Archdeacon from "The Hunchback of Notre Dame." That's three Disney movies that he voiced one of the characters.
And that Dr from Lilo and Stitch.
All the Disney villains are good singers with their songs being some of the most popular songs in movies. Ratcliffe, Frollo, Jafar, Scar, Ratigan, and Ursula all make such great music. They're talented singers.
R.I.P. David Odgen Stiers
Voice of Ratcliffe, Wiggins, Jumba and Cogsworth.
Miss you and all the others that are not here with us. Please be in Heaven with God and not in the wrong place.
"Ooh, gift baskets!" See, THIS is why I love Wiggins. Though not exactly cool and kind of naive, he definitely is friendly and sweet and has the right idea about how the Native Americans should be treated! And he KNOWS what the settlers did wrong to cause the Natives to attack them. "Wiggins, why do you think those savages attacked us?" "Because we took over their land and cut down their trees and dug up their earth." You can't get more obvious than that, and Ratcliffe is stupid enough and too blinded by greed to see that. Way to go, Wiggins!
RomanceFreak And he came so highly recommended!
ikr. He's a lot like Mr. Smee in many ways.
i love him so much
David Ogden Stiers ' performance as Ratcliffe is criminally underrated. Say what you will about Ratcliffe's character development but every single line he delivers in this movie just SLAPS.
PERIODT
Notice that Ratcliffe looks like a fat version of the Disney villain, Captain Hook! Similar clothing and similar black hairstyles.
He big n beautiful
In Finnish dub Ratcliffe's voice actor is actually the same as Captain Hook. Well, almost, they used different voice actor for the beginning of "Savages".
They were voiced by actors that also voiced another character in this film and a servant in high pitch in two films that take place in France (David Ogden Stiers, who voiced Radcliffe, also voiced Wiggins in the same film and previously Cogsworth the mantel clock in Beauty and the Beast; Hans Conried, who voiced Captain Hook, also voiced Mr Darling in the same film and later Lord Duke the Announcer in Sleeping Beauty)
I love how every character is semi-realistic looking except for Ratcliffe, it just makes him stand out so much more
For some reason Pocahontas is the only Disney princess not to stand next to her villain.
Thomas will eventually bring justice as batman years later!
No wonder he hates guns in this movie.
That's a crazy random factoid that I'll use for awhile ty lol never knew that
R.I.P David Ogden Steirs
2:17 "Succe-e-ess will be miiiiinne. Atlast." LOL!
R.I.P., David Ogden Stiers.
I think we all had teachers or staff who were like Ratcliffe, people you always seem welcoming and calm, you don't always know what people are like until you really know them, and as a change in someone's character like him there's some antagonistic to a person coming across as malicious, crotchety, mean, grumpy or even irate
BAHA XD
"And you came so highly recommended"
I AM SO USING THIS ON SOMEONE!
If there's one thing Radcliffe has going for him, it's occasional bouts of humor. _Occasional._
@@CJCroen1393 And style, voice and hotness.
I remember from my childhood, the Pocahontas tape story book, my crazy younger brother messes with my Mom by showing her, Ratcliffe!
She was like, "Guh! Brendan keeps showing me that ugly old man!" 🤣!!!!!!
Rip David Ogden Sitiers aka ratcliffe and wiggins
And the Archdeacon “David” (seriously he needs a name! He’s like my favourite HoND character, tied with Clopin)
I think along with Bill Sykes from Oliver and Company, and Scroop from Treasure Planet. Governor Ratcliffe is one of the most underrated Disney Villains ever.
Tbh he’s my favourite Disney villain with Gaston and Frollo
Ratcliffe's song, "Mine, Mine, Mine" is a homograph with both meanings of the word "mine." He's telling his men to mine and that the gold they find is his.
I guess what makes him "evil" is that he deliberately is spreading hate to get what he wants, which makes him a pretty believable villain in my opinion
David Ogden Stiers does a fabulous job as Radcliffe and Wiggins!! :)
Absolutely!
He sure did!! R.I.P. David Ogden Stiers, one of the best voice actors and one of my favorites.
Ratcliffe is one of my favourite Disney villains- sadly also one of the most underrated.
Blinded by his own greed, his own ego, and his treachery.
It's probably true that they took artistic liberties to make him a more unlikeable character, but I also like that Mr. Stiers provided Ratcliffe's voice. For those who may be unaware, he also voiced Cogsworth in Beauty and the Beast and the Archdeacon in The Hunchback of Notre Dame.
"During The Starving Time in December 1609 or early 1610, Ratcliffe and 25 fellow colonists were invited to a gathering with a large group of Powhatan Indians.[1] The Englishmen were promised they would be given corn in return for copper, but it was a trap.[citation needed] The colonists were given food baskets that were nearly empty, the Powhatan Indians ambushed them, and Ratcliffe was taken to the village. Only two colonists escaped.[citation needed] Ratcliffe suffered a particularly gruesome fate: he was tied to a stake in front of a fire.[citation needed] Women removed the skin from his entire body with mussel shells and tossed the pieces into the flame as he watched.[citation needed] They skinned his face last and finally burned him at the stake.[citation needed] This story was documented in an eyewitness account that is included in The Jamestown Adventure: Accounts of the Virginia Colony, 1605-1614 (Real Voices, Real History), edited by Ed Southern (published 2004). How this account only surfaced in 2004 is unknown. He was given the nickname Luckless Captain Ratcliffe.[citation needed]"
My favorite Disney quote of all time: "Suceeesss will be miiiine at LAST"
While Ratcliffe may not be motivated by revenge (i.e. Ursula, Hades, Captain Hook) or hide behind the guise of religion (i.e. Frollo), his greed does become all-consuming. It is interesting to note, though, that David Ogden Stiers, the actor who portrayed Governor Ratcliffe, also provided the voice of some other memorable Disney characters (i.e. Cogsworth, the Archdeacon in HoND), as well as starring in a more obscure live-action Disney film titled Iron Will.
Stussmeister you forgot Mr Harcourt from Atlantis the lost empire
And as Major Winchester in MASH
One word. Cogsworth.
Strange, David Ogden Stiers voices both the governor AND Wiggins.
Wiggins was one of the most human of the white men, he wanted to be friends and give out gift baskets, but no, Radcliffe had to preform genocide and screw everything up !
Herr Larson
You're right it is a little weird that the whites are demonized as the Nazi-Racists(not this movie), when some of the Native-Americans we're just as prejudiced towards the settlers. I guess we're just talking plain and simple Human-Nature sometimes!
Interesting!
@@Deader87 I'm not sure if I'm correct,cause you know the internet is full of half truths and lies. But I remember seeing something about how the Native Americans and the English were very peaceful. And how Pocahontases tribe even gave food to the English untill a famine hit, and then that's when the English attacked the Natives and demanded for food. Again I could be wrong but that's what I heard. I can go find and site the sources if you want.
If we do meet any we will be sure to give them a proper English welcome
GIFTS BASKETS!!!
XD
"Hmm...and he came so highly recommended." -_-
Ratcliffe is the best thing about both Pocahontas movies in my opinion
He is definitely one of the best Disney villains
I love him
Me2
Not exactly the best historical representation, am I right?
But still, a good Disney villain.
4:52 "Fucking a country. I know"
LMAO
And he came so highly recommended.
Ok, so when I first watched this movie as a kid, at first, when Ratcliffe was motivating the crew with his speech to have heart and keep going, I thought "Oooh, this guy's cool! What a great speech!" But then when I realized at 1:00 that he was only saying those things to give them the energy they need to dig up his gold, this was my reaction --> " -__- ....I hate you already..." And my hatred for him grew from there on.
While Ratchliffe is jerk, I think the way he is portrayed in the movie, he is pretty mellow for his time. For ex. he spares Thomas after he accidentally almost shoots Ratcliffe. in real life that would have lead to court martial, accident or not. He's still not a nice guy by any stretch of imagination by today's standards but real life 17th century governor would have been much much much worse. And I actually like him as a villain, despicable though his methods may be, I can relate to him in his lust for gold (I'm a greedy freak as well :) ).
Successsss will be miiiiiiine at lassssst
1:39: I'm counting on you to make sure those filthy heathens don't disrupt our mission.
RIP David Odgen Stiers
(1942-2018).
If they're anything like the savages we fought before it's nothing he can't handle 🙂
This man put his fellow man through arduous work for metals (gold), had people killed because he saw them as inferior or different from his ideology(his attempted murder of the native Americans), and constantly referred to them as heathens out of some belief on religious superiority. I guess he is the representation of the dark nature of powerful civilizations or elitist groups.
Powhatans murdered him, actually.
In reality he was very nice to the natives, to bad he met a very gruesome death
@@setha7066 Not talking of real life. Talking of the movie character. Stay in Context.
EmptyMan000 I know, that’s why I said “ in reality “
Ratcliffe isn't really evil, he is just a greedy man. This is why he is a realistic villain unlike the second movie where he is the classic vengeful villain.
The Gold digging song makes me laugh every time! best villain-song ever :D
This is quite possibly the biggest case of slander in movie history. John Ratcliffe was not an evil, greedy, genocidal lunatic, but rather very generous in his dealings with the Powhatan Nation. Too generous, according to some, and among his real-life faults was also the impractical idea of building a large residence for himself in Virginia. It is ironic that he met his death at the hands of the Powhatans, who led him and what remained of the colonists (the others having all died from illness) into a trap, flayed him alive, and burned him at the stake.
MaskedMan66 Blah blah it’s a film.
I would really like to to see Alfred Molina to play Governor Ratcliff in a Live Action Pocahontas
That part where Ratcliffe attempts to shoot the chief Powhatan despite the fact that John Smith was saved from execution, that technically would of been a war crime because the Indians retreated not wanting to of starting the war
Voices:
Ratcliffe/Wiggins- David Ogden Stiers
John Smith- Mel Gibson
Thomas- Christian Bale
Percy- Danny Mann
Ben- Billy Connolly
Lon- Joe Baker
Powhatan- Russell Means
Pocahontas- Irene Bedard
if their ever as an entity of greed and glutenous nature it was him.
Governor Ratcliff has no fucks to give
RATCLIFFE = DONALD TRUMP
Like when you think of reality, you don't know what people are like until you really know when meeting them, people always come into your life for a reason and decide whether to be friends with them or not
Tricky people, you either loved him or hated him!
The part where Ratcliffe attempted to assassinate Powhatan in spite of Pocahontas saving the day would of technically of been an illegal war thus making him a true villain just as both sides drew their weapons not wanting to fight either
DAYUM! Poor Ratcliffe... O___O
I guess that he's a villian in the movie in order to match him to the plot. Shame, they could make him a good guy and make another villian.
Pocahontas pretty much saved the natives from getting demolished and slaughtered. The settlers had cannons, muskets, and armor. The natives had bows and blunt weapons. With just bows for range, ratcliffes armor and the settlers helmets would have countered them. The natives would have been screwed.
Ratcliffe: How England used to be.
Wiggins: How England is now.
Smith: America in their minds
Ratcliffe: In reality
@@Mr.cladmaniac Yup
Funniest Disney villain ever!
In my opinion he should have become a musical star xD his songs are great
2:17 succe-ess will be miiiinne... atlast. Makes me laugh every time!
Him and his sidekick are the only characters I like in this movie
Aye!
Thomas became the leader of the group
You said the same thing my sister said.
Thomas was under Gov. Ratcliffe's radar when using the gun and ordering him around on what he was expected of the governor pressuring him doing things that's not in his nature. Finally at the end of the movie, Thomas stands up to him and have his say while seeing John Smith being shot at the same time. What a friend! He deserves to be leader.
I swear Ratcliffe has a hat very similar to Guy Fawkes which could be a fitting description and reference just like in real life that King James vi of Scotland/I of England was apparently friends with Guy Fawkes only to be betrayed
"And gag him as well!"
Thomas is so awesome.
Future batman ;)
Best Disney villain ever!!! And one that doesn’t die in the end -_-
I love the big boy soo much
@@italym6410 felt that
@@cosmicsins6226 he so big n loveable
italy m hahah ikr i love him
@@cosmicsins6226 people hate fat men I love big men
"We must sound the drums of war!" love this part
Surely the most underrated Disney bad guy EVER!
and the second dislike is ratcliffe's servant
Percy was the true star if y'all didn't know
wiggins says hi
Governor Ratcliffe is an underrated villain. David Ogden Stiers (RIP) manages to make him both enjoyably over-the-top and menacing. Plus, his dual performance as Governor Ratcliffe and Wiggins is one of the best parts of the movie.
He so big n loveable
@@shanefraley827 so big
The real savage was Ratcliffe just now hands down.
I'm glad Percy switched sides at the end of Pocahontas.
I'm not too crazy about his character design, but I LOVE that they got David Ogden Stiers to do the voice.
the one dislike is Governor Ratcliffe. ROFL
Ratcliffe is a realistic villain, just like Frollo.
Frollo= Fanatic
Ratcliffe= Greedy
Shit, when this came out, people in theaters all across the south were probably rooting for him😂
Governor Ratcliffe is greedy,deluded,pompous,haughty,dignified,obnoxious,snobbish,argumentative,evil,rude,selfish,arrogant,vain,racist,persuasive,calculating,elegant,bossy,hateful,cold,smug,lazy,stubborn,quarrelsome,cunning,ruthless,sarcastic,intelligent,collected,brutal,easily flustered,grouchy,bad-tempered,murderous and sadistic.
Ratcliffe and Forte (from Beauty and The Beast; The Enchanted Christmas) are the most underrated Disney villains in my opinion.
Too bad Forte, an amazing villain, was wasted on such a stupid movie... Such a shame...
Rip david ogden stiers
"Gift Baskets" lol
I love his mustache!!!!! :p
Ratcliffe is such a Boss!