Why The U.S. Military Faces A Growing Recruiting Crisis
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2022
- The U.S. military is facing uncertain waters: A diminishing pool of eligible applicants, low unemployment and the public's fading trust in the institution have made recruiting much harder then in previous years. The Army has been especially hard-hit by these issues, and currently faces a massive recruiting shortfall. What can the various branches do to make the military a attractive job option for young Americans?
"The Army has to recognize that there's been an evolution in that young population," said U.S. Rep. Jackie Speier, D-Calif, chair of the Subcommittee on Military Personnel. "And if you're going to target that young population for service, you've got to make it appealing to them."
Of all the military branches, the U.S. Army is running into the most difficulty this fiscal year in bringing in recruits. The other services should manage to hit their goals, according to Stars and Stripes, but underlying issues continue to make recruiting a difficult endeavor.
Watch the video above to find out more about the challenges the U.S. military face in trying to fix the growing recruiting crisis.
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Why The U.S. Military Faces A Growing Recruiting Crisis
I am a former marine desert storm vet. My children followed my footsteps and joined the marines. Both of them hate it. It's not because of the strict physical requirements, the pay nor the fear of war. They both are proud to serve their country. Their biggest gripe is the toxic leadership and the favoritism from leaders that can destroy their career in and out of the military with a stroke of a pen.
Should of went to college
Maybe but that's the other government scam.
Exactly the military doesn't weed out toxic individuals when recruiting.
I'm currently 32, when I was in college I considered getting into USMC ocs, this is back in 2011 to early 2012. The OSO, Captain Burke, gave me a really bad vibe and there was a Gunnery Sergeant there, I forget his name, that also gave me the same feeling. Anyway, I was in main part of the office and I saw that the Captain had printed out the emails of some of the applicants, put them on the board for everyone to see and had written in various things about these individuals basically making fun of them, etc. I immediately had this switch click and I walked out and did not go back or respond to their calls and messages. Shortly after, I found out that the Captain there was giving OCS slots to people who went to the same high school and university as him, despite the fact that they were no more qualified than any of the other applicants.
Toxic isn’t even the word it’s beyond that
America showed their citizens how well they treat their vets, and people decided that that wasn't well enough for them to want to enlist.
Let us enlist! You need us!
@@coletrain583 if only they didn't shove forced inoculations like the anthrax vaccine, and politics...
About 180K people join every year to fill out the total force of a little less than 1.4 million active duty and reservists.
No. Not all of them agree with your politics.
No, not all of them love Trump and hate Biden.
Yes, many of them are Democrats and vote that way.
No, not all of them are Christian.
No, Not all of them believe in God.
No, Not all of them are of European descent.
No, not all of them are straight.
No, Not all of them conform to a standard gender Identity.
No, not all of them are US Citizens, in fact, about 5K legal immigrants who are not US citizens join every year.
most powerful, accurate answer. Many reasons, but that one HAS GOT to be the number one answer.
I served 9 years in the military. If I was 18 today I would avoid it like the plague. There are no benefits and just headaches for serving and while serving.
Most people want to actually live their life and not risk it for worthless politicians
Amen
Was enlisted Navy for 6yrs. Most common reason I've heard from people getting out is horrible leadership and unlike the civilian world you can't just quit, and go to another job. Feels bad being stuck with low morale and crap leaders possibly for a year or two.
Civilian is the same if not worse leadership. There’s toxicity in all supervision
@@francescastefan2056 One huge difference. You can quit
@@francescastefan2056 toxic leadership on the civilian side will never compare to the military
Not only can civilians quit but they can separate their work from personal life. If my boss tries to call me about some bs off the clock I can till him I ain't getting paid so he can talk to me tomorrow.
But you are on the clock 24/7 in the military so you have to deal with bs at anytime.
Then there's the favoritism sho9wn to certain privileged groups-women, LGBTQ, e.g.
A major complaint of Navy men is having to serve back to back tours of sea duty thanks to "non-deployable"-i.e., pregant/single mother females.
Hard to ask people to die for something when there is nothing worth dying for in their eyes.
When the leadership is not accountable or kicked out because of being anti vaccine or hurt with no support after a injury, why would you fight for people who hate you?
@@nowlwane9623 the vaccine wasn't necessary
Especially after the wars in the middle east that we ALL know was purely to control oil fields. Like we invaded Iraq and continued to fund the saudi’s despite the fact that the saudi government funded the attacks on 9/11
But who will protect the millions of surveillance cameras, at most U.S. intersections?
(That we made it centuries without, following Communist China's lead)
@@josephromero1498 till you blow up in a supply convoy, or die in a vehicle turnover.
It's almost like the kids born in the 2000's saw their parents and older siblings come home from Afghanistan with nothing to show except life long injuries, a weaker economy, and less benifits.
I'm a OEF Veteran and I was able to get a bachelor's degree at no cost, a home with no money down, and a nice federal job with a pension and 401k.
@@bobbytatum84 alot of those people that get out the military and complain they got screwed over didn't apply themselves when they got out and didn't use the resources or benifits given to them, and they decide to blame all their failures on the military.
@@jesussalas2407 the navy i know is trying to fix that problem by telling and informing people of the benefits they have when they get out. I had to go through it when i was getting out.
@@bobbytatum84 I served to and trust me I'm very happy for ya brother but not all of us were so fortunate and many and I mean many I personally know including my self have had bouts of homeless ness of other issues. may I ask where you and officer? or high rank nco from what I seen those seem to be the ones that did fairly well and not even sometimes. glad things worked our for you though.
@@jesussalas2407 I'm gonna tell you straight up that's bull I'm sure some may have done that but there quite a lot folks who would disagree with you. plenty folks who would disagree with you. I had to wait six weeks to get a diagnosed for my osa and then three months for my machine that I need so I could work I work I'm transport cdl and my insurance didn't cover that but the VA did and although I'm grateful for getting it I lost almost half a year of work trying to get them to set and appointment and then three months to get the machine. first time I looked up the VA I was one year out and homerless I told them this they had be fill out a form and I didn't hear from them for ten years. plenty of my other friends had the same problems bs med board discharges and ended up home during one of the work recessions kind of like we are in now, I had to pick my self up nd it wasn't easy. but nice way to paint with a wide brush
As a marine corps veteran, I can confidently say that those 4 years were the worst of my life. The worst part was toxic leadership. I was offered a 55,000 dollar reenlistment bonus and refused it. I value my freedom more than money
I’m with you they could have offered me a million and I’d say hell no to another enlistment
Lol, man it's the military. What did you guys expect? Should have joined the AF or Navy. No one forced you guys...
@@chickendinner5572that’s why their numbers keep falling because people know what to expect now. Brainwashed kids and people with nowhere else to go are all that joins now
@chickendinner5572 And no one is forcing them to stay! Get f*cked!
I was active army, 11B M.O.S., served in 2-28 Black Lions in Pakita Afghanistan from 2011-2012.
Any young people reading this, DO NOT enlist, and dodge the draft. You are not fighting for your country, our government is corrupt and wars are for some career politicians bank account rather than "freedom"
The draft?
I like how most of the points made in this video were not about fixing the internal problems of the military, so that demand increases, but rather how to lower the barrier of entry so more people can enlist. Love to see that even the military is reactionary rather than proactive.
They will get to the point of Mandatory Conscription. If strengths drop. Even if you are overweight. They will force you to exercise and lose weight. Pre Bootcamp. 6 months should do it. Lets Go Brandon
That's cuz there are no "internal problem"
@@lawrenceleverton7426 doubt it...only females would be most qualified. By the time most males make it out of highschool they have records. The few that don't still would qualify due to underlying health issues such as asthma, mental illness, etc. Only 20% as is of eligible age people qualify...meaning they have no issues. Than society is going to complain about conscription of women...which would have to be done ..because there is just not enough men and men today won't go unless everyone is required. These new kids are different.
@@lawrenceleverton7426 also the population would certainly decrease...because no one wants to have their kids to be forced into something they don't want to do. Alot of people are anti military these days. A conscription would be a very very very bad move...that would end us.
They are catering to non-binary folks and Woke people. The lunatics are running it now lol
Not that hard: treat people like people. Clean out horrible leadership. Make upward mobility a priority.
The military doesn't give personality diagnostics, that's why u have some many toxic people in leadership
There can only be so many generals. The army needs foot soldiers
No
@@kingnothing5678 👍🏼
Maybe make the country they’re serving, something besides a shithole. Our healthcare sucks, education is a business instead of a virtue, oil companies own politicians, facts and reality are being made into villains because people worship an orange lunatic who was planning to sell nuclear codes to the highest bidder… Why serve the US? This country sucks. “If you don’t like it, leave.” It sucks so bad, I’m trapped in this shithole.
Nobody wants to be around leaders who treat people less than human.
As a veteran I have this to say… life in the army has been the most soul crushing and miserable experience of my life
Facts! 😂😂😂
@@MaryBeth321123 lmao.
Unfortunately, like someone once said, "We grow too soon old & too late smart."
US soldiers are the useful idiots for corrupt leaders .
I hope the rest goes better for you.
Fight for truth, not a flag. It's more valuable and will last longer.
PS: "A person who likes learning" is known as a "Philosopher". "Philo" = Love "Sophos" = "Learning"
Let the Philosophers recruit you next time. You'll find life has a different taste.
It's not meant to be easy 😂
@USA_USA_USA jeez professor, you don't say. The dude must have gotten screwed over by the recruiter.
It’s hard to attract youth to the military when they lose friends & family to war, suicide & job related diseases while survivors are neglected in abject poverty and mental illnesses. The occasional “Thank you for your service” is not worth the risk.
2 of 4 veterans in my family have attempted suicide. Another lost an arm in Iraq. The “thank you” letters come, but the help they need never does.
I've known as many or more who Killed themselves as died from combat. Thanks Uncle Scum.
For me the VA tried denying my grandfather his benefits multiple times despite serving. My uncles are both in poor states too mental-wise, and are not getting help.
Well if Iraq was actually a case of stopping an invasion, all that suffering would be worth it right?
My uncle served in Vietnam.
He later came back and destroyed a car dealerships display window in a fit of rage that he was sold a lemon.
I avoid the military like the plague after that.
This generation watched their older peers die and be catastrophically wounded in combat in unjustified wars/occupations. They've watched those veterans be ignored and downright mistreated by the government, and a understaffed, underfunded, and overwhelmed VA system. They see a two tier retirement system for career military people that has eliminated defined benefit pensions. And they see a government whom they don't trust not to send them into combat as "cannon fodder" for imperialism and not national security or defense of the nation. Bottom line: the RISK is not worth the REWARD. If America is faced with a possible wartime situation, look for selective service to be reinstated.
Yeah any near peer threat and it's gonna take a draft. Honestly? I don't think we could handle a near peer right now. Especially since the Ukrainians have all our equipment. You have SF ODAs having to send MTOEd equipment to Ukraine. All our 155, Javs, AT4s, SAMs, basically everything but our tank rounds and aircraft weapons. They never restocked the Reforger sites that they opened for Iraq. It's like they've removed the combat arms from the Army and Marines.
Veterans are the primary means of recruitment. Many sign up not because of a sales pitch from an official recruiter, but from the wisdom and advice of a veteran they know. If the veterans are not treated well, people around them will know. And (gasp!) think twice about joining.
Woke promotional videos don't help either.
@@peterbelanger4094 most of us were used as human cattle. We were valuable enough to get paid hush money ie enlistment bonuses, but not valuable enough to listen to determine that a change in leadership style is required. This is an all volunteer force still running off the Conscript law book. All the laws are designed for a person there against their will. You can't treat people that volunteered without respect and expect them to promote their system. The reality is the military is supposed to representative of the people it serves. Well the US military resembles a time when we still had a three tiered class system. The military is supposed to elevate you to the true middle class. However we don't have that system anymore. There is no preferential hiring anymore. If anything you're actually labeled a liability. The problem is the rot goes so deep you would have to rewrite the red book (UCMJ Law book). If you were to actually force a draft, you would have unit wide mutinies at some point. Noone has pushed the doctrine that caused young men to volunteer to die for years. We don't demand that our kids grow up strong actually we prefer them to grow up broken. We (the American people) no longer have true respect for authority. Why would anyone join a system that is so alien to them at this point?
After decades of Agent Orange, Gulf War Syndrome, and toxic burn pits, only now are we seeing real legislation to help vets who suffered from those policies. Even then there was stiff opposition from congress about how it's "wasteful spending." And it's unlikely that victims of lesser known abuses like documented cases of using soldiers for experimental torture and weapons experiments will see any benefits for their sacrifices. Meanwhile, female recruits still face a hostile work environment for reporting sexual assaults, and in recent times Marine drill instructors were exposed for putting recruits in a dryer machine and singling out ethic middle eastern enlistees for special punishment. Today's generation has information at their fingertips and sees what's behind the curtain; whereas, past generations learned from movies that romanticized and glossed over the details.
@@fathead8933 Army veteran, discharged in 2014. When I was getting out, the Army was already talking about doing away with the 20 year pension in favor of a TSP (401K). They were med-boarding many people for very small injuries. They were essentially drawing down. Most of the new recruits are coming from either the lowest socioeconomic class or like the report says, the Southeast US. I was born in to an upper-middle class family and joined because I wanted to and it was a great experience. Would do it again in a heartbeat.
People don't want to fight wars for the rich.
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Why would someone volunteer to fight for a bunch of crooked politicians?
Exactly!
Not even politician. They are fighting for corporate interest
I’m currently in the army one of the biggest issues for me personally is toxic leadership. Time and time again I’ve seen fellow soldiers opt out of signing another contract based solely on the type of leadership we have to deal with on a day to day basis
Hey just read your comment. Is the toxic leadership like being mentally and verbally abusive to soldiers?
If you can’t beat em, join em
I am also currently in the army I know right now the biggest issue in recruiting today is that darn mhs genesis system
@ZunfiX ~ Seems more like the people are waking up to the fact that the US military is chasing false enemies overseas while ignoring the true enemy behind the viel at home.
No one wants to join that, lol..
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@@72marshflower15 mhs genesis is the main reason I am currently in the military and my brother is a army recruiter
It’s hard to recruit the same young people that see the undesirable lifestyles of retired veterans.
This was bound to happen eventually..
So very true!
True
Every single vet I talk to tells me not to join
Say it louder for the people in the back!. Sure you could come out of it very financially stable and maybe a solid looking career path. But that stuff is mainly on you figuring it all out for yourself. The big green weenie doesn’t care.
A big part is the corruption and human trafficking. Its so deep. Oh and the government intentionally giving marines cancer at camp Lejeune
Don't worry. Emma and her 2 moms will protect you.
yup & they'll out rank everyone too & if they're that color they never have to do any training either
I just hope whoever made that commercial is fired…what a woke joke.
Society is changing rapidly with technology. For example, suicide rates in the military began surpassing the general public in 2007-2008. Suicide is now a risk factor in the military, when the military used to be a protective factor pre-2007. It's not just the military, younger generations are failing to meet performance standards in education and the workplace. We need to do something if we plan to thrive, or even survive, in the long run.
I tried to make a career out of the Air Force by going to college to become a commissioned officer and pilot. After doing all that work, and being prior enlisted, they simply told me they don’t put prior enlisted guys in pilot positions. They even wanted a picture of me in my application (which is a little weird). This was in 2008. So I honorably served the remainder as a helicopter mechanic and left. Also applied for pilot positions for the navy and two air guard units and was told I was too old (at 28 years of age). Funny how things work out. Both a pilot shortage and military shortage. I’m truly ashamed of their recruiting process.
Did u eventually become a pilot? Tell us your story
@@amanbudhathoki550 funny story. I got out and used my GI Bill to pay for a commercial helicopter license. However with only 250 hours it’s impossible to get a pilot job unless you want to be a flight instructor for a while. Eventually the money dried up but atleast I got to fly for a couple of years while I was learning. So the military paid for my flight training one way or another. It could’ve been to their advantage but they decided to be stupid 🤷🏼♂️
It's very weird to me the age limits in the military. They truly want only young boys for whatever reason. Your body doesn't really decline until 35 or so, 28 should not be "too old" for any industry. Oh well as an 18 year old who's pretty anti-military, I'm hoping that nothing catastrophic happens in the next eight years and I can age out of mandatory conscription.
@@jasonrice1803 You could have became an Army Warrant to flew.
@@danielschick7554 yeah I could have. But by that time I had a good job with my B.S and I honestly lost interest.
My uncle tony who was a former Vietnam veteran marine. Was at a veterans hospital for years. He has pain and kept telling the nurses for 4 years. But they just kept telling him it was just pulled muscles. Eventually he yelled at them to do something and they finally ran a scan. Turned out he had stage 4 cancer. If they did a scan four years ago when he first started complaining. My uncle may still be here. What’s the point of having disability benefits if you can’t even get them. Just thought I’d share my story.
Oh man, sorry for that
Even those outside of service know that the VA and so on are absolutely terrible.
It’s insane how much we spend on military and foreign aid yet we can’t even take care of our own soldiers when they are hurt or when they retire.
You guys should sue them. You'd definitely win
That sounds like gross negligence to me
@qtsssim exactly. Welcome to public healthcare
i think that the big news stations should look into leadership in the branches and i think that they will find out why so many good soldiers are leaving after their 1st or 2nd contract
I tried to join the Australian Defence Force when I was 20 years old. I was declined because a doctor said I had depression in high school. I had wanted to serve since I was 8. But I tell you what, I missed the lifestyle but im now earning 6 figures on the mines so whatever it worked out.
Good on ya
As an Iraq war veteran, I would like to point to the 'big white elephant" in the room. One of the real reasons why no one wants to sign up and serve is because many young folks now know "WAR IS A RACKET" as famously stated by Smedley Butler (a former Marine Corp. general)!!! Both the unjust wars in Afghanistan and Iraq were to help enrich the "MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX" and "BIG OIL" at the expense of many service men and women lives of whom come back with PTSD, missing limbs, exposure to toxic burn pits, etc. Only to have to fight another battle with the government for disability benefits!!!
Exactly all fake wars. I’m not gonna risk myself over a lie.
Big facts.
Very true. Some sheeple unknowingly work for the new world order
The fact that nations and countries have HAD to do this throughout literally the entirety of known history, and soldiers have always carried the burden for wars that bolster national security/interests in ways beyond their comprehension.
This is why there are decision makers and foot soldiers are foot soldiers.
Everyone plays their part but one single person cannot possibly comprehend and execute operations at the scale that these things happen at.
This is why you'll never probably know the TRUE reason why you are at another country or a war. Because most people simply cannot handle the truth so we are fed the story that'll work for morale until the decision makers accomplish their true goal.
This is why elected leaders and competent electors are important, since with our beautifully ugly system of democracy, we choose a vast majority of these decision makers with the hopes that they lead us to the right direction.
The time of stretching our ambitions over seas is coming to an END and the era of having to protect American soil is coming.
New generations, new threats, new military.
The only thing that can stop bad people with Ill intentions, are good people with good intentions.
@@giftedshfter4433 dude life is not some dramatic war movie. It's just life. We are all just human beings trying to survive. The 'decision makers' have become obsolete and the 'foot soldiers' have had it with being oppressed and used.
I’m currently in the Army right now. I’m currently stationed in fort hood (the great place). I can honestly say what makes the Army so terrible isn’t the physical punishment (I like moving my body and working out). It’s not the pay (the pay can BE better). It’s the toxic leadership and the lack of accountability on officers and senior leadership. Jr enlisted suffer the most from toxic leadership and favoritism that occurs. Throughout my two and half years of being in the Army, I’ve had been exposed to toxic leadership and favoritism. There’s many great things about the Army that I have enjoyed, but I’ve also seen many soldier’s careers get destroyed by the stroke of a pen. In the Army, I promise you the Pen is mightier than the sword
The great place 🤣🤣 i love the positive energy
I’m currently in also brother. Stationed at Fort Stewart currently. Hang in there! The Leadership here is extremely toxic also. It is unfortunate, I joined at 26 years old after doing some time as a Cop before. I’m an 11B but changing over to 35L series. You should look into it! There taking PFCs currently. God bless and continue to endure and reclass or go to selection when you can. Trust me, every job is toxic unfortunately now days even Police. As a wise man told me once the grass is never greener on the other side. If you plan to retire and get your pension, it will be worth it. Save 5% in TSP, make smart choices and stay tactical and away from drama.
Same here bro, toxic leadership and favoritism is to damn big here in JBLM
@@meloncholylife hang in there brother ✝️🇺🇸
@@LastPatriot1994 I’ll try my best to, I don’t want to lose hope in the military
I served in the Marines and while I find this sad, I can't blame these kids for not wanting to serve in the military. The biggest reason I got out is because the majority of "leaders" are just people who stayed in because they couldn't function in the real world; the good leaders were few and far between and outnumbered by egomaniacs that weren't hugged enough by daddy growing up. Not to mention the fact that if you look at the average age of service members, it's like Lord of the Flies with children in charge of children.
Benefits are very little and like pulling teeth to take advantage of and the pay is awful. As others have pointed out, you might as well work in fast food or at Amazon because the benefits are just as good, if not better.
When was the last time the United States fought a war that WASN'T about spoiled trust-fund babies maximizing profit margins and/or laundering money through political campaigns? You think kids with the most access to all the World's information ever are going to sign up to fight for that?
You won't see any interest in joining the military until the United States experiences a real and extreme threat to the homeland.
That is true. Look at 9/11. People joined because there was a threat. Because so many people died in those terrorist attacks. It was a serious threat that shook up America. But once that fight was over they still kept sending people out to fight. On top of not taking care of their vets and all that there is just burn out basically. People seeing their friends and family come home traumatised and not even the same person and the constant deployment, tours, and all that.
I get fighting for your country and the motivation was there in 9/11. Same thing for Pearl Harbor. America didn't want to get involved because they had no reason, then Imperial Japan attacks and people wanted revenge and to ensure their friends and families safety.
But once that flame dies out no one wants to go back to that.
For example right now the only way America will get involved in the Russia Invasion of Ukraine is if Russia attacks us or something.
It's just constant burn out. Plus the fact is with modern technology and East access to info people can do their own research. People can see if it is worth it, people can see what the results of war are. Back then military propaganda and media all made it look like joining during say WW2 was the best choice in a career path.
Another example the propaganda used about the German MGs. The propaganda made it look like it's bark was worse then it's bite, but soldiers who faced it realized that was a lie.
But now people can just look up the facts and do their research. Now people can see the effects and detriments of war on people. Now things are changing.
Sounds bout right
GTA IV Niko Bellic: War is when the young and stupid are tricked by the old and bitter into killing each other. I was very young and very angry.
Former Marine, here. Heed the words of General Smedley Butler, "I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism." Not much has changed; I've had friends die in Iraq so the CEOs of the military industrial complex can get even richer. In the end our lives have little value next to billion dollar contracts for the already wealthy.
This comment needs to be highlighted. Heard about Smedley Butler a year or two ago and boy he definitely hit it on the head with War is a Racket. Just a civvie by the way.
You’re missing something like the abrams the marine corps is currently missing out on. Companies follow approved procedures, even when told otherwise. Why claim you’re a muscle man for portions of industry when all government/religion and industry follows the same procedure? Are you MARSOC btw? Would you know?
There are NO former Marines. Once a Marine, Always a Marine. 😂 Which Marine Division you served with?
@@EckRD 3rd Mar Div. 2 yrs on Camp Hansen, 2 yrs Kenohe Bay, spent some time in 29 stumps and even Ft. Sill Oklahoma.
This is the most raw and honest comment I've ever heard about this matter.
My last commander tried to illegally frame me as if I tested positive for THC on a military drug test. That was after 10 years of loyal service where I did not even have a single negative counseling on my record. That kind of dirtbag toxic leader ship is more common in the army then healthy productive leader ship. I’m glad that this is happening. Hopefully the army changes. It’s disgusting how this video doesn’t mention changing the reason why people are not joining or staying in the military.
A hot urinalysis will always get you, Cheffie. No way around that one!
That's impossible bro. You need to failed a test (urianalysis) no Commander can trick the system to destroy the career of the Soldier.
All of you turds who say "that's impossible " the amount of illegal crap I have seen leaders try to get away with is astounding. And peace time army sucks. Instead of leaders worried about war they are worried about politics.
It’s gonna change. Once it goes full commie like the government it’ll be just like China. You have to buy your way in then buy your way up to the officer positions where you can really start scamming. Say shoot two rockets sell eight. Same with artillery and other items. Or like Russia where they skimmed so much off at every step they have no night vision. Two guys in charge went to another country to start a factory to produce NV and none got made.
Ngl, you maybe had someone switch yours with one (theirs or a buddy) that was hot. And yeah I’ve seen it happen/been around those who did (used to be a upl)
Love you so much thank you for your service!
The main answer is rather simple: more people are waking up to the fact that serving in the armed forces is no longer a means of serving your country, but rather serving the economic interests of major corporations and politicians who don't care about you.
Coming from someone who serves, the military deserves this, the way they allow leadership to be and the climate they foster I’m just surprised they can get anyone to want to join anymore
Maybe That's why they are recruiting more gullible women now. lol
Not gonna fight the Whyte man's war
@@TheIronhyde1 and the t rans
@@andret5418 And the T rans away!.far far away, I see what you did there. hehe good one.
@@andret5418 I did my time. I’m done. Not fighting anyones war.
I was in the army and the leadership is the reason why people want to quit. Army full of leaders who don’t care about but themselves and don’t know anything outside of the army.
I love how those leaders try to give advice about staying in when they've done 20 plus. Like they know about civilian jobs.
@@batboy555 bruh facts, I was on my last 6 months and I had mofo tell Me that I won’t make it out there, even though I probably have more time in the civilian world then them.
My parents brought in a person who was 22 years old and three years in the army. He was a worthless and toxic person. It makes sense that the leadership is toxic.
Don’t forget about the sexual harassment,bullying, discrimination, and toxicity.
"don't know anything outside of the army" So true. I think the Guard is a much healthier structure.
I went to Fort Benning for Basic and I loved every bit of it, but during my Active Duty experience it was hectic, I pushed myself to reach at my peak and yet I see others were favored more, getting better treatment, especially when it came to female soldiers if it was for passes, consequences, pt, training, etc.. It’s hard not to fall for the individual mindset and still work as a team member but when you have sh*tty leadership and lack of oversight it makes your time in military hell.
Why would a young person want to fight and die for a country that not only doesn’t care about them but also hates them for simply existing?
+1 you have more common sense than the entire Ministery of Defence
I am a veteran. I truly believe that lack of leadership has a part in this.
A lot of the "hard charging" young people that used to join aren't joining because they see what is going on. It's really sad.
They recruit and promote the wrong people. Gangs especially. It wrecks a unit. The ones that try to be good get rubbed out
I was gonna join. Then I realized I wouldn't be serving anything. I would be a number for our politicians to flex, a cog in our imperial war machine. That's it, theirs nothing to be proud of in that...
I thought about it, but I’m White (came from Europe first generation) and as I understand it there are even more White privilege/rage/white people bad classes you have to take in the military than in the private sector. My current job does a lot of this stuff but at least I can turn my camera off and go do something else
they are still sexually assaulting people that's why. they sexually assaulted me and they pay me the maximum VA disability by law and social security disability on top of that. I am 42 years old and im done working for life.
They have diluted men in this culture, the problems in this country will get worse. Veteran in 2nd world war said it right, he is embarrassed to fight for this culture.
My Dad was Special Forces and was in Vietnam & Desert Storm... Want to know how the Army repaid him for risking his life and the damage to his body (physically and mentally)?
Losing his medical paperwork and as a result he's owed about 300k in back pay but the VA doesn't want to pay him so he's been fighting over 2 Decades to get the money he's rightfully owed...
Your Dad was in the army for 40 years?
May be he meant Vietnam. Still ould have been pretty seniors for the gulf war
@@leonardskinerd7758 🤣 Whoops myb, he was in Vietnam and Desert Storm lol
Your dad was an idiot fighting for lies and old people. Smoke and mirrors.
Meanwhile illegals get everything for free lol
I'm running into this health care case, i took some meds i doctor gave me for a month (i stopped because it made me sick), the recruiter told me i would have to wait a whole year before i could join, just because i took for a month (been off of it now almost 3 months).
same thing happened to me. im 17, going on 18, and because ive been on antidepressants, ive been disqualified until i get off of them. i see why they do it but with the amount of people in this generation that is on medication for similar things, its obviously going to be hard for them to get people who qualify to join.
this comment is old but im glad i could find someone with a similar issue!
Love it when woke sources say that wokeness isn’t the problem but then follow up that statement with a woke talking point.
I'm Japanese American and served 27 years in the US Army. I come from a family that served in the US Military for almost 100 years. My sons WILL NOT. Two of them are members of the Japanese SDF and the third will join in a few years. The US Military is poorly lead and is not the force I joined (and not the one my father joined). My family isn't the only one that will not participate with a military that is incompetent and concentrates on all the wrong priorities.
This news report danced around the main issues that are really effecting the recruiting numbers. They mention the legacy enlistments and the political/cultural divide in the US...and then just move on to nonsensical interviews from political clowns who don't seem up for dealing with reality.
Bottom line: people like yourself and with similar family history are telling their kids to steer well clear of US military service. Recruiting numbers are in the toilet because the segment of the population that had the motivation and physical capacity to serve are refusing to join. People inclined to the military lifestyle and demands, who exude a warrior spirit, are not impressed with the political posturing and sheer incompetence of a military leadership establishment that doesn't appear focused on winning battles.
I am also Japanese American. How is the SDF compared to the US armed forces? I heard there is a lot of traditional Japanese business type of practices still going and the hierarchy remains dominant relative to age and not skill.
FJB
@@xXIronSwanXx Correct. It is very regimented (inflexible) and hierarchical, not good things in a modern military. Both of my sons are officers. However, the training and physical fitness is top notch. I believe both of my sons are in better shape than I was in top shape while serving in the US Army Rangers. I think the discipline I've seen is excellent and something the US Military lacks. I also believe they would fight harder than almost any American force I served with. The only problems I've seen is of course the hierarchical command structure which isn't optimal, the regimentation and static operating structure and formations and the equipment is subpar. The organization could be improved quite a bit and the US Military has better equipment. However, I have no doubt they would fight to win. Something I have serious reservations about with the current US Military.
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I am a veteran and served for over 8 years in the '90s.I blame how veterans have to fight to be taken care of. If you asked me today to enlist I would say hell no. Not because I don't love my country. Because my country does not want to take care of us after breaking us. Many of my friends suffered injuries only to then get out and have to fight to get compensation. Not to make this political, not interested in what party is at fault, but a prime example is the latest bill that needed a celebrity to push it thru to be signed. It is a tragedy how vets are treated.
Most countries don't even have any sort of VA. Here in SA, if you're a SADF/SANDF vet, you're just a regular civvy as far as seeking medical treatment is concerned. You either go to a state or private hospital. You're on your own.
@@Waldemarvonanhalt Other countries are not at wars with everybody.
why do you feel the need to add the disclaimer “I still love my country”? Your country has done nothing but treat you and its other soldiers & citizens like garbage. Nobody would blame you for not loving it.
It’s also they way the treat citizens from day one. This country only looks after the rich(both parties) yet they expect us to go die for their wars. Their ears that are only happening to make money. The us leadership did this to themselves
@@jazaniac that's part of the burden we sign on to. After Vietnam, to be a warrior in the US is to be a stray dog. Everyone treats us like we're rabid, when 99 percent of the time we're scared to death of society. This is EVERYONE.
I'm trying to enlist now but they're not making it easy. They want me to get my own consults, and pay for them. With my financial situation I don't think I can do it. They want me to pay but I could still be denied, this honestly a, 'no', from me.
What consults?
Mhs genesis is a disaster and it’s killing recruitment all over the country.
whats a consult
there are approximately 20 million veterans in the U.S., and fewer than half receive VA benefits or services.
During COVID19, I seriously have a hard time finding a job and did consider joining the military. However, after hearing news and stories about base camp treatment toward its members- suicide, bullies, missing bodies, harassment etc. I decided I'm not that desperate.
If your fresh out of high school do your 5 yrs and gtfo. Don’t rank up nothing. Get your college paid for and call it a day go to school while your in if you can in fact. Save up and use the benefits to get started in your career.
I dont suggest staying long term
@@chibamoon6410 that’s terrible advice. Everyone’s experience isn’t the same.
@@FancySeeingYouHere its not i got in and when I finished classes for my job realized i messed, there was nothing i could do in the civilian world that my military job translated to. So after seeing how the military forcefully kept people in, i had to self sabotage to make sure i got out. If you find that when you get out military school and its what you want to do then stay in its not like you get in year one and take the test to rank up in the same year, you will know when you sit down to take that test if the military is for you or not. If its for you, stay in if its not dont.
I hated my first command, bit if i had my second command as my first command I probably and most likely would have stayed in.
@@chibamoon6410 navy? Let me stop lol I’m actually dropping my packet to get out
I used to fight in MMA and lived near a military base. A huge amount of soldiers would come in who were usually average or below average in height and weight. They wanted to learn how to fight (without weapons) just so they could defend themselves from bullies and stand up for themselves. That is the bullies at the same rank as them. They couldn't do anything about bullies with higher ranks than them, especially officers.
Ahh lawmakers are concern because the younger generation doesn't want go fight their wars and have them profit from them. Go figure.
It's more complicated than that
@@arrielradja5522 other country, I can somewhat agree. US alone? Nah... they have too many bases and alliances. They are blessed on a seperated continent that border 2 countries posing zero threat to national security. US needs manpower for these oversea territories and foreign bases
@@cloudynguyen6527 what are you talking about?
Both borders threaten America.
Canada is obviously a threat by their incredibly close ties to China, large population, advanced technology. The only positive is usa and Canada have good relations. Thats never permanent.
I don't even know why you'd suggest Mexico isn't a threat to national security, that's so absurd its a stupid statement.
This is the same Mexico that smuggles guns, ammo, drugs and people into USA.
The same Mexico with one of most powerful, well equipped militarised cartel in the world.
The same Mexico where they're building a wall to stop vast number of illegal aliens. 1.7 million alien's crossed over into America in 2021.
That is significantly larger than an army, literally. (An army is generally considered 400k-1m.)
They want to you to fight Russia and China ROFL. The absurdity of the U.S leadership knows no bounds.
1. You don't know what you're talking about.
2. Family heritage of serving is dead.
3. Only 23% of Gen Z ages 18-25 are INELIGIBLE to serve. Why? Their parents allowed them to become lazy, no motivation, and no inclination to be independent. Gen Z can't pass military fitness tests, ASVAB, or officer tests. They can't receive a security clearance due to drugs or arrests. Too many suffer from anxiety and depression. Gen Z is overweight bcuz their parents never made them go outside. Last, the new recruiting medical software is flagging far more recruits medical issues so they can't get in.
As a Marine Veteran, don’t join. Don’t fight for Israeli interests. Remember they lied to us about 9/11, WMDs, and we accomplished nothing in Afghanistan. Let’s take care of our own.
Don’t do it. From a former lifer vet. Don’t die in their imperialist wars anymore.
I'm about to finish my active duty contract and I'm getting out. The Army has deteriorated a lot. Barrack rooms are horrible; food is atrocious and healthcare services are subpar. Don't fall for it.
If you like it, consider immigrating to England or Germany. What do you intend to do when getting out?
Really makes you wonder where all of that money is going when the Pentagon is able to “misplace” trillions of dollars.
Did your defac have roaches cooked into the food too?
I got a 3 million bonus for serving in the Army.
Stop crying. U joined it... it didn't join you. You joined to serve, not to be served.
I was trying to join the Navy when I was 18. I was fit, active, strong and passed all of the mental testing with flying colors. I was dead set on joining and when they found out I tore my ACL 2-3 years prior playing football the whole process came to a screeching halt. They didn’t get back to me for months and they eventually told me I was disqualified. Really feel like I dodged a bullet
Same bro! I tried joining the marines but once I went to MEPs they saw I had to much sugar in my urine, I got checked if I had diabetes and it came out negative! Got waivers for the sugar saying I was medically cleared but they still didn't accept me! Regardless of how fit I was. It's unfair
Passed my ASVAB last year and wanted to join the Navy. As they were getting my paperwork ready for MEPS, I asked them about the shots given there. I told them could I get my shot records(I got a lot and even too many growing up to adulthood), they agreed but kept pushing that it would take a while to get me to MEPS and wanted me to go asap. I said I still want to try. They never contacted me again. When I called them, they said everyone just goes and takes the shots cause noone either cares about getting their records to show, they don't know they could or what would I feel like being there looking special while everyone getting jabbed? 😆I said, thats them. So I just never was interested again. I have 9 more months before my scores expire. Haha
Should have lied like the rest of us
@@corydougherty850 tell me you didn't watch the video without telling me you didn't watch the video
"Really feel like I dodged a bullet"
Was that an intended pun?
There was a big problem with senior enlisted when I served. Lots of favoritism and mistreatment of young enlisted.
I saw a commercial where soldies invade a small town.
I'm a U.S. Army combat vet. and I think this policy of coups, NED interference, and sanctions is utterly un-democratic and sickening.
Speaking as someone who went into the military. Right out of college. I was trying to follow in my grandfather's footsteps. He served and it had been a tradition in my family for Generations. The problem is the leadership. The leadership is toxic. You have people who insult your intelligence and you as a person and don't really care about taking care of troops so much as they do care about looking good. Check your upper enlisted and check your officers that's where your problem is your first sergeants and your sergeant majors. Your captains, Majors, colonels. People like that that's where your problem is. They are irresponsible and oftentimes toxic individuals. Most of them walk around with a stick up their ass. That being said I'm thankful and glad to have served my country. Yet I got out because of toxic leaders.
Huge propaganda effort in here pushing the word toxic lol. Transparent trash
Got out of the army cuz of quality of life. I was living in the barracks and just after the first 2 years of my contract I felt like i wasn’t growing. And I started to feel like a child just playing soldier when we trained. Cuz we never ended up using any of it when we deployed to Afghanistan and had to learn a whole plethora of stuff when we showed up. I also truly realized we’re not “fighting for freedom” or “country” anymore. Young amazing gentleman are being killed in foreign countries for the wrong reasons and I decided I ain’t goin out like that. I’m glad I had the experience but yeah…not doing that again😂
@@dch4446 Smart dude right here. Ain't no use dying for a flag with a MADE IN CHINA tag!
The problem is what is called the "peter principle". Rising to the highest level of incompetence.
I guess these 'leaders' need a lesson on fragging in Vietnam.
Leadership will always be a hinderance to people actually staying in. Take it from a guy who served 5 years in the Air Force. Toxic people push others around because of the power they possess
Sat that again
I've considered joining the Air Guard, but the possibility of toxic leadership and the inability to leave is what makes it harder for me to consider it
True that! When I was stationed at my dream base in Japan, I only stayed for the minimum amount of years and didn’t even consider extending because of how toxic my office was. Looking back, I actually can’t believe how horrible they treated me
I am sure that it is because of all the mistreatment and punishments during BCT and the failures in the system when is needed protection for the soldiers, finally the salaries are so low. It is very important to re-evaluate the methods that are currently used.
I did Basic at age 34. I'm a Desert Shield / Storm Veteran. SSg. Army Med Corps. I was never mistreated or punished. I was driven to be and to give the best that's in me. Basic is too hard and educationally challenging for the Woke to nonsense, pussified little Snowflakes we have today. There won't be cookies and milk, mommy to pick you up, no coddling from the society you swear to protect, nobody will help you except the guy next to you that you should be pushing. There won't be a participation trophy. But if you work at it, learn about yourself, learn the ways of the real former soldiers and sailors You just may turn into a strong man or woman. HOO Ah!
No one wants to fight for corporate overlords anymore
Maybe everyone sees how they treat their veterans. Student loan repayment that never materialized, taxing sign on bonuses, denied healthcare, no dental, impossible to navigate VA system, Republicans voting to not pay for healthcare that is directly tired to your time in service. Maybe all of this is a huge deterrent to military service. Coming from a DV.
What branch did you serve in?
Good idea!
About the only part you got right was maybe the care at VA hospitals. Sorry to bring you to the world of reality but bonuses get taxed in the corporate world as well. Denied healthcare?? No dental?? That doesn't sound like anywhere I was stationed. Please share your military experience with us. I don't think anyone cares to hear about your political bias or opinions. Instead, share facts instead of your emotional fiction.
Yes, my grandfather was a Korean war vet, was on a medication that if stopped would likely cause a stroke and death. His doctor talked with someone from the VA and told them this. Still they ended up not wanting to pay for it anymore. 2 days later he had a stroke and subsequently died on the 3rd day.
@@markmiller4595 it does sound like emotional fiction. I was shocked recently to learn an Air Force officer vet that was in charge of a ICBM station received 40% disability. This was due to a bad lower back and migraines due to lack of sunlight due to his rotational 24hr duties underground. I can’t imagine what physical injury he could have incurred in a role that is equivalent to office work as he manned a desk that watched over two other desks other than it being the Air Force where PT is nothing more than an annual fitness test and he sat at his desk underground becoming soft and atrophied.
I am a Korean. Back in 2015-16, I was studying in the US (and had been living in the US for roughly 11-12 years at that time. I wanted to obtain a US citizenship and an opportunity arose under the Mavni program(which allowed international students to enlist and gives citizenship once the service ends.) I applied to the program but had been in limbo until I was unable to afford to continue my education and returned to Korea where I finished my mandatory service in Korea. Watching this video, I cant help but feel disdain for the recruiting office having "trouble" recruiting when they had ample opportunities to rectify this problem in the past by aiding students like myself to join the US military. Distinguishing potential willing recruits who will become future generations in the US instead of squandering it and then finding yourself stuck in the mud years later is nothing short of an example of the proverbial wisdom, "you reap what you sow".
Be happy you didn't. All the mavni people got put in low clearance, high manual labor jobs. Saw a doctor, a dentist, and a lawyer on the civilian side get put as carpenters on the military side. They didn't have a choice.
@@jonathanwatkins6951 whatever position you held as a civilian doesnt matter in the military. You fulfill the role needed in the military. I found out that no matter which military you are in, it's all relatively the same. While I was doing my service, I was digging trenches, constructing bunkers, cleaning toilets, and gardening flowers. I asked an American soldier and he said it's the same in the US side. I dont care for the menial grunt work. That's already something I expected from the military since it instills discipline. My beef is with the bureaucracy that prevented giving Mavni applicants the opportunity to serve.
One of my friends did this! He did it through ROTC and is now an LRO in the Air Force, logistics officer, he’s a captain now. Funny enough he was Korean too 😅
Lol...I love it when Russian peasant shake up their lies. This is one went with 'Korean'. Nice. Thanks for the laugh. We're so much weaker thanks to your words. (snicker)
@@persimmon93 The military is just a disjointed cult that abuses it's members for profit. Not sure why you would set yourself up for failure by being a part of that. I will never hire a veteran.
I joined the Air Force two years after the Vietnam War. It was an all-voluntary military. Back then the US military had bases all over the world. I was in the communications field in the Air Force and back then the AF could practically send you to places you'd never even heard of. Even remote locations. But because of that, you had the option of traveling and seeing places. I retired after 20 years. Today, all the bases and air stations throughout the globe have been shut down, so not much of an option as I had back then.
When your country takes "Body positivity" too seriously😂
Haha facts!
Like a great SSG of mine once said "the garbage gets recycled, and the good ones figure it out and move on else where" the military is great and were some of the best years of my life but the toxic chain of command can utterly crush morale
super sayain god?
@@djantouahmed7319 Staff Sargent.
@@djantouahmed7319 yes
Was he really that great? Or was he the garbage that got recycled
YET NO ONE IT GONNA TALK ABOUT HOW MOST OF MY FRIENDS LIED ON THEIR MILITARY FORMS WITH THEIR OFFICERS HELP.
I’m in right now, actually training in California, and I can tell you why. Incompetent, inconsiderate leadership. I’ve been in 3 years, and We work crazy hours, for 1.training purposes,understandable. 2. To alleviate our leadership’s incompetence and terrible decisions. There are so many reasons that enlisted soldiers don’t want to re-enlist, 80% of my platoon is going to leave after our contracts because there is just too much stupidity in higher echelons to overcome, especially when working 16 hour days for weeks in a row, while being paid $600 a week as a single young man. Especially with how single soldiers in barracks are treated. We are trusted with millions of dollars of equipment,weapons, and lives of others. And yet we are mostly treated like pre-teenagers by our leadership. Life as an e-6 and below is terrible in the army.
I think all of that is part of a normal military experience regardless of what country. I deep down do believe that legalizing marijuana is the single most effective step they can take to increase retention and recruitment. idk about you guys but I got really sick of seeing 5 to 10 perfectly good soldiers chaptered out EVERY drug test in my battalion. They literally only know if youre smoking if you pop hot so clearly it doesn't have a real impact on your performance either.
Be proud you're in the army man. Life aint no peach on the outside. You're making a difference, whether you you don't see it or not.
I’m working part time at a hardware/feed store and I’m making just as much as you working 24 hours a week
No wonder no ones joining
Yeah I’m getting out in December of 2024 I regret re-enlisting.
I would seriously consider going Green to Gold and becoming an Officer and staying in the military. Your pay will be upgraded and you'll have the experience of being enlisted which will help you as a leader. The benefits of staying are immense if you can get beyond the monotony of what you're going through right now. Think long-term. We are currently in a recession. The job you have now is the most stable one you might be able to get right now.
One thing could be looked at is evaluating how many jobs could function with having 2/3s or 1/2 of the people in that career field deployment ready. I was in the Air Force and my job was putting people and cargo on aircraft. We could probably have 2/3s of the career field eligible for deployment, and fill the other 1/3 who can do the job at their duty location without being in a deployment bucket.
Create a slightly reduced pay scale so that an E-4 who is not deployment eligible is not paid the same an E-4 who still has to meet certain requirements like M-16 qualification or fitness test. They would also have a different uniform.
Big challenge would probably be dealing with discrimination towards people who are not deployment eligible. But would also open up doors for folks who might not qualify.
i would love to serve but i have too many DQ's, i would need like 3-4 different waivers but maybe its the right time.
I’m an Army vet. I had a great experience in the military, but I saw that my experience was different then a lot of other troops. I’ve seen HORRIBLE leadership bring their problems from home to work which usually means lower ranking personnel get all the anger that can’t be taken out at home. An example being a SFC that used to be so laid back until he got divorced. The guy completely changed how he treated his troops (ppl I hung out with), and enforced a “you don’t go home until I do” policy. The quality of leaders should help retention efforts as well as change perceptions of the military that can lead to increased recruitment.
Cry harder
Which is why we failed with Afghanistan and Iraq and Vietnam (1960s-1970s)?
@@okamijubei the rot started ion Nam, escalated in the 90s and got out of control the moment the war started and has gone down hill ever since.
With the transparency that social media provides, people can see for themselves how ridiculous the military has become and recruiters can no longer lie to people about military life.
Oh, yeah? What unit were you in and what's your MOS?
Just an observance from a retired military vet - US Army, thank you . Lowering recruitment standards is not the problem. Get rid of them. The problem comes when it's time to weed people out in basic training. Otherwise, recruiting can lower its standards, the training cannot.
I got out after 10yrs because I enjoyed my time served and wanted to get back to my family and life and start a new chapter.
Also don’t forget that a lot people (young and old) prefer their freedom these days. Following orders in the military for small pay is not worth sacrificing your freedom for some people
you have no idea how true that is, especially once you've had your freedom ripped away from you. that is when you truly value it.
@@MegaMijit Yeah, but its really not just about the Recruits
Freedom. People realize more and more, being a Soldier IS to rip-apart
STRANGERS LIFES and their Freedom.
I cherish being free of all that now that I am retired from the military. There some days that I honestly felt like I was in prison. I am proud that I served but man there was some really hard days.
@@gbb82 i feel that
@@gbb82 when I was deployed, the joke was the walls and guards around our patrol base were to keep us in, not to keep the Iraqis out.
Served for six years Air Force. The benefits and everything are great. My local VA has helped me a lot. I’m proud I served my country but the toxic leadership on the ranks and the fact that the ones who are miserable with their lives are the ones that make rank is what makes it intolerable. I used to work weekends, no days off. Volunteer my time where I worked and when it came time for my performance report.. they said it wasn’t good enough to put it on my EPR. Also, was stationed in the middle of nowhere when I was promised that I’d travel the world for 6 years! I had to get out. People always assume that it’s the physical requirement but it’s not.
What exactly do you guys in the military mean when you talk about toxic leadership, just curious to know because I’ve seen a lot of comments mentioning it.
@@HJuan94JR theres videos all over youtube just look it up
It is physical requirement, they need your body haha ok sorry for the joke it still awful they promise you that
I wore multiple air force ones for 7 years
That's pretty much my scenario. I'm getting out in 18 months.
Share the link wanna join, have to apply
The systemic issues in the military are able to be spotlighted easier with social media. I am a marine and my biggest regret is joining. I was sexually assaulted and believe the military is extremely corrupt. So much retaliation for this.
Doesn’t surprise me one bit. Even when I was in 5-6 years ago, The amount of soldiers who were chaptered out or in the process of being chaptered out was off the charts. From my perspective, the younger generation wasn’t lazy or even undisciplined. They just didn’t wanna be miserable and get treated like dirt for 4 years and a lot of them found a way out. The writing has been on the wall for a long time.
What do u mean by 4 years?
@@jsgn8977 Some branches like the marine have a 4 year contract where you have to serve the entire time.
@@valisthevaliant and what about other branches? Do they leave before 4 years? And the marines after 4 years? Why do they join for just 4 yrs
No John, they are lazy. They are weak. They are not patriotic. All of which has been well documented. This is in addition to the deteriorating problems of the military discussed in this video.
@@ericpowell4350 I wouldn’t say it was the majority in my experience. Most of the younger kids I had were fine. Maybe 2-3 turds like every company has, but I think the standard of living for junior enlisted is horrid. Fort Stewart for example, didn’t even have a DFAC open on weekends for barracks soldiers. Still took their BAS every month too…The bottom line is E7-up doesn’t care about their soldiers anymore and this generation knows that. Who’s gonna work for anyone that gets treated that way? No one.
Young people are more educated about the horror of war these days. They no longer want to risk their lives fighting in foreign countries about issues that are none of America's business.
They kind of are since your govt fuels them more than anything else in order to keep its weapons industries happy, which is basically the most profitable business in usa
blood for oil
every conflict in this world is part of American bussiness, they sell weapon and many war equipment, as feedback American get benefit like money, oil, natural resource, and it show to the world that US is conquer of the world. People need to know that American still make best war equipment in the world.
None of Americans business???? America is making lots of money off war and killing people
They want you to fight Russia and China and then Iran and the DPRK. This is your leadership fuelling conflict for the sake of capital. Don't be dumb and fight for the wealthy, Let them send their own kids to fight.
I have family and friends in the military. You have to have the physical requirements of all members, and not based on the job you test into. I have had several family and friends in one job skill, and then the military has a change in their needs, and the person is moved to another job skill. Example one was in and working in electrical, almost though the apprentice program. Things changed and they pulled him from that (were he didn't do a lot of physical stuff); to being an MP halfway across the globe, in a hostel area (he needed to do a lot more physical stuff). If he wasn't physically prepared beforehand, that transition could have become unsafe for him and possibly others in the line of duty.
I tried joining the army but was denied for a stupid medical record reason. At this point I’m glad I was mostly due to the lowered standards for physical fitness. I want to fight with the best and that includes those on the technical and medical side.
So you didn't make it but they lowered it ?
@@reallydoe2052 Yes, I couldn’t get in because the vision in 1 of eyes is lesser than the other and can’t be corrected. Just to mind you I’m not blind in it.
@@nell9106 so they must have not lowered it as much as you implyed
@@reallydoe2052 I said physical requirements as in push ups, running, etc. They have go do some research and look it up it’s public knowledge at this point.
If we are being honest here’s the real problem with the military
- no care for suicidal awareness
- no outside help ( we have no therapy and those that are given it it’s literally a “ let’s just stop being sad “
- mental health
- leadership
- not listening to sailors
- khaki / E6+ rank not caring for anyone but themselves
- horrible training and facilities
- being punished for speaking up for yourself
- and lastly SAPR ( sexual assault ) is not taken serious at all
- bonus NO MORALE AT ALL my deployment was 11 months out at sea during COVID and all I got from it was a hot dog a burger and a $25 nex card
Gotta love covid deployment, I relate.
@Whatsnewralph, sounds like typical "Blue Side" Navy Leadership, get out and join the Marines.
This is the most smooth brained post about gripes in military service I've ever seen. Wow. We are all gonna die.
What did you want, a hand job from the Navy when you got back? FFS
@@fpvflightairborne2168 100%
Maybe it’s because most ppl don’t want to get involved in some political feud that nobody asked for. How about that?
ok, but you cant escape it. We are living in societies that need to be ran and are dealing with other countries.
Conscription is coming folks. Lets Go Brandon
Correct
Glad I don't have to babysit millenials and Gen Z kids anymore. They are real winners, let me tell ya. They want a thank u and a pad on the back for doing their job. Mommy told them they were special. No safe spaces if u worked for me.
How ironic that a CCP bot is lecturing us about fighting for other people’s political agendas…
A high school friend of mine reported to the draft board on 2 hits of "Blue Cheer." Sadly he didnt get past the Shrink.😅😅😊
I like how even though any form of upper leadership doesnt touch on it. Anyone who has been in the military KNOW why nobody is staying/joining and arent afraid to say it
And what is that
From a guy who served 8 proud years in the military and just recently just got out, I will preach to the younger folk to do well in school and do their best to pursue what they love. The military should be a last resort in this current day and age. You can serve your country doing other things. The military is superficial and toxic. I’m proud of everyone who is currently still serving, but it’s going to be a shock when some starry eyed 18 year old finds out how dreadful of an organization the US military is
What other things do you consider that applies to serving your country? Serious inquiry!
@@divisionagentbailey6727 EMT, paramedic, nursing, police, veterinary services, fitness trainer, rehabilitation, chefs, musicians, sign language interpreter, Computer IT…..there are hundreds of jobs that can provide a service that is beneficial to our country! Anything that can bring joy to others. Anything that can help other people. Something that you love doing that can provide a positive impact.
Im currently finishing up my EMT with plans of getting into the paramedic pipeline. 10 years ago I dropped out of this program. I wish I had just stuck with it when I was younger because I am so much happier doing this stuff.
That is every job or career out there . Either it's for you or not. The military is a service and wasn't designed to be a 9-5 job. That is every military around the world. Folks still try and end up failing since the beginning o
@@hellasketch6523 Thank you for your service. Thinking about becoming a Firsfighter myself.
Yea I got out in 2014. I saw the woke bs coming. Plus watching over weight women getting promoted over real qualified soldiers was the last straw for me.
I did 24 years in the Navy. Every male in my family has served going back at least to the civil war. That ends with me. The organization is broke. I forbid my children from joining. I served enough for them.
Ive always felt like i made a mistake in not going, care to elaborate?
What did you do in the Navy?
@@Julian-bv8ql trust me you may think you have it bad as a civilian but you don’t.
2nd Gen Navy here, and ditto. I actively discourage everyone I know from enlisting
My family……every war.
It's really simple:
1. Increase benefits significantly, which includes double the pay and more healthcare/insurance options
2. Let them choose where to be stationed weather its California, Texas, North Carolina, or even overseas like The UK, Spain, France, Germany, or even Japan unless the bases are full
3. Do all this and it could jump to 4,000,000 in the military by 2030
There I just solved your problem
Money and choice orders? If you give everyone so much money how would you fill undesirable posts? That's not even the start of the problems you would create.
No mention of the people separated because of the jab refusal
I wonder how they do in other countries where they pay 1 quarter of what they pay in the United States and yet they don't have recruiting problems.
Maybe the real reason comes here:
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As someone with diagnosed adhd you don't ever really grow out of it however you do learn to control it, most people wouldn't know I have it but I very much still do
They are the adult children of iraq and Afghanistan veterans or they had friends with such parents. The Army failed to create the ambassadors they needed veterans to be by treating those veterans horribly while they were in the service 5, 10, 15 20+ years ago. Promotions became a game of "box checking" opposed to making every effort to retain those with actual combat experience.
And also tell me you don't wanna go bomb and occupy another arab, african... country !
Great points.
We must promote by equity abd make sure to advance females so our numbers look good said the dumb boomers.
I’m an Iraq war veteran, the grand son of a man that served under Patton and I told all four of my children to not enlist.
@@TheNECichlids my own son wants nothing to do with the military. And I think when they allowed the GI parents to pass their post 9/11 gi bill to their GI Kids, there's little incentive left to join. I told my son I've already done all that so that he can have a good life. Sometimes his friends ask and I tell them what I went through and they would rather spend their 17-22 age dating cute girls and being with friends than sleeping outside and getting shot at. It's easier than ever to get a degree (clep, dual enrollment, internet, Pell grants, etc) and someone said "it's an 80k a year job. They need to start paying 80k a year." I completely agree with them. Ditch the barracks and chow halls and give them 80k so they have a living wage. They pour way to much money into what doesn't work and they need to stop doing the "your gonna live in a box and eat the garbage we give you" and treat them like actual government employees
I never comment on videos here on RUclips but I will on this one. I was in the Navy for 3 years. My biggest problem with it was the fact that I felt like my leadership could essentially get away with anything. I felt voiceless. It's not right to side with someone just because they are a "higher" rank. If they are wrong they are wrong. That is why I ended up leaving. These people cover each other to the end and it is disgusting. I think the military suffers from a lack of quality people in important positions. To put it plainly some of the "higher ups" if they were not in the military their "highest" position in the public sector would probably be just a night manager at a local Walmart. In which there is nothing wrong with that, but they should not be in charge of the safety of other peoples lives. They do not care as long as they have their big chair to fart in they could give a damn about a junior sailor unless its an attractive female.
I'm right there with you bro currently in my first year going into my second im feeling it 100 peecent
I’m right there with you, I’m almost 3 years in.
So true two years in might get out after this contract I felt it when you said voiceless they do not care abt junior sailors.
Let me add to that last part, Also the juniors who somehow befriended said leader in search of favoritism. Witnessed a whole lot of that in my old company (army here)
The corruption in our Armed Forces is worse than that in the Russian Armed Forces and we see how well they're doing don't we?
Yeah the young population has caught on to this con. They don't want to fight for corrupt politicians.
Another major reason why people don't want to join is also because of the politics where military personnel are in the last thing on the governments mind as they look foward to their next 2 week paid vacation while military members need food stamps.
The f***ing audacity.
Joining the military is easily the most regrettable decision I've ever made.
Why?
I'm with you. I only joined because I wanted to do it as a career. Ever since I joined, my leadership has been extremely toxic and made up their regulations. If I get kicked out, I have nothing to lose.
@@famousdex5579 Why ask why? It seems Not Caring is a trend among toxic leadership and lower ranks that hate being told what to do.
@@famousdex5579they don’t respect you and treat you like human if you are lower rank. Their nasty attitude and think they have the right to do so.
Maybe if our soldiers got the same benefits as our politicians more would join.
Yeah like trump
Yep that’s right or the same pay as actors on tv gomer pile and Sargent carter
@@hermanrogers1325 I wish I was homer pile right the freak now
This is the best one.
Soldiers get a lot of benefits.
A lot of comments in here are why im trying to join the national guard. Get the training and in my state, they will cover any schooling i can think of while im in for my 3-5 years (MOS i want doesnt do contracts under 3 years and usually its 4 from what ive heard) and immediately get out. Just hoping i can get my medical waiver for a fairly small back surgery i had. I dont have any harware in my back at all and have been given the 100% green light from my surgeon to return to any and all activities, still have a feeling they will reject me
Could the reason be because of how the US does NOT take care of their vets?
I would absolutely join the army in a heartbeat it’s just I don’t have faith in the government as most people do because they get away with too many things, and I don’t want my life in the hands of someone who can ruin my life and cover it up because I’ve seen too many instances like that happen
Bingo.
DId you watch the video?!
@@vintinoo1924 yes or else I wouldn’t have commented 🫤
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I was in the Navy and I have heard so many bad things about women in the Army.
As a currently serving soldier it’s easy to understand. I watch toxic leadership play favorites daily. I myself and many other with me struggle financially. Seeking help for physical aid is next to impossible and forgot any mental help. Anywhere from depression to substance abuse is months out in help.
FACTS!!!! Soldiers struggle financially for most of their 5 years into the job. What they don't tell you is that you actually pay for medical, housing, and food!!!
@@Vera-dg3hf is that honestly true?
@@lovechris3732 Lower enlisted E1-E4 don’t make more than 1200 every 2 weeks
@@tkotheworld On active duty? And is that the same for all branches of the military?
@@lovechris3732yes I am currently e4 active duty as aircrew 2+ years in service with allowance for food, flight pay, without contributing to my military retirement (because I don’t intend to stay in) barely clearing 1200-1300 biweekly
They don’t understand they can retain those with experience by fixing the pay system you don’t need enlistment bonus’s just fix the pay and this will keep experienced people in and allow them to make a professional fighting force
You know what’s crazy the Marines have low retention but high recruitment numbers
Let me tell you fitness and academics has nothing to do with why the numbers are low. It’s all about leadership & accountability but no one wants to admit that
Maybe if service members didnt come up missing under suspicious circumstances all the time people would have more faith to enroll
What like abandoning your post, getting caught by the enemy and being called a Hero like Bergdahl. Obama said he was a Hero. When in fact he was a deserter. Should have been in front of a firing squad. That's when woke became a joke.
Cause wokeness leads to weakness. And each generation is getting softer.
So the answer is no or little PT and recruit people who didn’t get good grades what could go wrong?