Our Country’s Shame | Full documentary
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
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Six Pasifika people tell stories of the pain and suffering they experienced as a result of being placed in government or faith based care. These six people gave evidence at the Royal Commission of Inquiry into Abuse In Care - their experiences represent the experiences of many Pasifika people in Aotearoa New Zealand from 1950 - 1999, people who in their childhood years were unfairly treated by the government and church, whose parents and aiga trusted and believed those organisations would look after them and were badly let down.
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I'm Maori. Me and my brothers went through abuse in our foster home as well. But also the abuse came from our own family, we went through this for 11 years. I have respect for everyone who spoke up about what happened to them, because it felt like me and my brothers were the only ones who went through such horrible situations. I pray everyone who went through the system and came out with trauma, that they will find peace and healing. ❤🙏
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The white nations did it to all cultures all around the world and this is nothing. In the underworld of white people who loves this
I’m really sorry that happened to you and your brothers. You all deserved better of the adults around you.
I do hope you’ve had better days and that they out weigh the weight of the hard ones. Sending peace and healing your way
"Its not our shame, it's theirs." Exactly brother, couldn't have said it any better.
Thank you to all the survivors who had the courage to speak out. As a Samoan and Cook Islander, this really impacted my heart. To think of the adversity many of our elders and adults went through. I love that you spoke because I think we should normalise this.
“It’s not our shame, it’s theirs”
Such a powerful statement
Wish I new this I wouldn't of hated my dad as much the two guys you see sitting together is my dad and uncle watching this gives me tears coz my dad never spoke about his childhood and I know why and the reason for the way he was love youz I so much respect
I am so sorry that this happened to you, your dad and your uncle. They were both very damaged and in turn you were damaged. I hope you can find a way to reconcile with them both and all of you have some peace and love. I hated my dad my whole life and am glad that I came back to the UK before he died. We didn't end up bosom buddies but we had a level of understanding that gave me some peace when he passed.
I am so sorry for your experience. I did wonder what the experiences of the 2 brothers had translated to in their adult lives and how they’d been able to parent their kids.
The fact that the two brothers can talk about the abuse, especially the older one. Is what makes them stronger. All the stories told. I'm still trying to process. Doesn't everyone have a skeleton in their closet? Some are still trying to find a way to talk about it. Others just want to leave it in the past. 😢 thank you for the documentary.
This is what institutions do to kids, they break them until they feel they are worthless.
So horrible what these men and women endured. Hope they find peace❤
So sad to watch being Samoan myself born in the 80s in aotearoa I grew up with love and care but I saw mates who weren’t so lucky fellow Islanders 💙 my heart goes out to every single person that went through such trauma as kids ❤️
Where and who are the sexual and physical abusers at now????? Who was in charge of these foster homes/centres?? We need to name and shame them, bring them to accountability for there wrong disgusting doings!! I'm so sorry all the bad shit has happened to them when they were only babies themselves and didn't know. I hope the victims find peace. The NZ system has let them down. Time to be held accountable!! The trauma they all would still be suffering 😢 this just made me angry and sad for the victims. SPEAK UP, STAND UP.
Rumbro, I fully agree with you. This is tragic, that children and teenagers were sexually and physically abused by their families, priests and even nuns. The anger that boiled up in me was unbearable. Why did members of their families, matrons and others who were in charge, not report it to the authorities and the police?
Something should be done about it. Were these victims ever given counselling? What is the New Zealand system going to do about it?
I wish I could give them a hug and pray for them. So sorry that they suffered such terrible trauma. God be with them and heal them. My prayers are that the NZ authorities will find out what happened in these family homes, Catholic institutions, and schools, and that the perpetrators will be sent to jail! They should be named and shamed! Much aroha and blessings to all the victims. 🙏🙏❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Probably dead, they were 30+ years old in the 1970s
My heart aches for you John & Fred Williams. May you continue to live the rest of your lives finding peace & happiness 🤎
I remember you telling me your story John many years ago how heartbreaking.
God bless their souls💛💛
What a powerful testimony.
Brave and strong survivors.
Shame on the church and shame on the government to allow the abuse of our most vulnerable treasure, our children.
Fred & John Williams; my heart goes out to both of you . . . it definitely would have taken a lot of courage to speak up & share your story with us - and for that we thank you - no doubt this will encourage others out there to find the strength to be able to speak up & seek support too. Im so sorry that you both had to go through what you went through . . . I could barely watch this; was definitely painful to hear about the horrific treatment & ongoing inhumane abuse that you were both subject to. I pray that you both have found peace & happiness that you're both so worthy of. Tumau le malosi ❤
Im glad I watched to the end , because of your courage there will be change,Bless you in Jesus Mighty Name, Amen
Jesus almighty did nothing.
Keep making noise People. Stop abusers from harming Any Child EVER.
This is the saddest thing ever. My heart is so heavy with sadness for you all. I hope you are on the path of healing. And i hope that these types of places are shut down.
When a grown man cries on tv? He’s hurting for REAL!!! Respect to these Men God Bless you
Hmmm never had god in the pacific you ok brainwash person
Thank you for letting me view this very sad autobiography of yourselves. My... prayers to you of healing.
Bless you.❤😊
Takes a lot of strength to share stories of painful childhood memories. Having to relive these traumatic experiences. This will no doubt help others to release the burdens of their past and help live a burden free future 🙏
You all are so brave to talk about this. ❤
I'm so sorry this happened to you all and i admire your strength your courage to voice yourselves , could feel your mamae .
I hope you all found some sort of peace of mind being to share these stories whanau.
You are all far from useless
And are all worthy of love
Whoevers has put that thought in your heads are just pure evil.
Aroha ki a kotou katoa❤
Thank you for sharing your stories with us
I felt so emotional watching this 😪 thank-you so much to everyone who made the hard decision to openly share their stories. Given the political unrest at the moment, this is a testament to the type of injustice indigenous whānau have been subjected to by Western systems for decades. Treated as less than human and yet they wonder why intergenerational trauma exists so heavily with our people. We are worthy, we are deserving, we are amazing.
This is a powerful watch. Thank you for your bravery.
Thankyou for this upload. I hope those that have shared their mamae find health and healing. They deserve it! ❤
Some Strong Brothers and Sisters 💪 here.
Why are Pakeha people mean spirited? What makes it worse is they think their doing good for the greater good. At least Māori/Pasifika mean spiritedness is somwhat calibrated with the sacred entity of whānau like one of the Williams brothers said.Very good doco made me cry.
Your also missing the point where our own people do us bad. And i can list them all here but i have to eat, im hungry.
Caucasians are mean spirited because they are part of a history that mainstream keeps trying to avoid all because it is about the caveman history which they are a part of.
@@Bebedolliesorry to hear but i think instead of using nationality as a description why not call them by there names ? Its a scary world we living in now we can barely use our voice bearly fight back for our rights barely stand up . Idont even know what a reasonable solution besides become the best version of you❤❤❤
@@jessieritete3073CALL IT WHAT IT IS THOUGH!! IF YOURE DONE WITH THAT BEHAVIOUR THAN CALL IT OUT! ITS DUSCRIMINATION & RACISM AT ITS FINEST..FULLSTOP!!
Stupid ignorant comment. Not cool.
Oh - my heart goes out for you and all the other children that suffered like this. I am appalled. I could hardly watch this. It is a stain on our country, the churches, the state. People say how bad things are now - but oh dear. It was horrendous. I hope your days now are full of love and joy. I could hardly watch this. What was wrong with our society in that this happened? That people looked the other way? I am the same age as you guys. I’m so sorry that this was your experience
The sad part was the violent abuse started from John's grandfather and than his uncle. This however led to John and his brother going into the homes. What a sad sad story. I hope they can be compensated soon.❤
The sad part is that their useless father was often visiting the home with his brand new shiny palagi wife and children while his first lot of children were suffering like this. Nobody takes responsibility for this bs!
Sorry to those who suffered and separated.
May the LORD hear your maemae and heal you from the inside out.
Thankyou for sharing your truth and stories.
Blessings to yous that SHARED.
Where was your Lord when a priest was abusing small children??!!??
Would this explain the reason behind some gangs formed in New Zealand? Some of these kids were not protected hence they joined gangs growing up 😢
@vaiona5156, I was thinking the same thing. Some of them were never shown any love. 😭😥
Yes, alot of members endured alot of abuse in their youths (or even as kids) when in state care. There was a hui last year hundreds of them gathered to speak at the hearing last feb - from Mob, Blackpower, King Cobra etc. They say about 80-90% of those in Mongrel Mob and Black Power gang whānau had been a state ward - numbers backed by the Waitangi Tribunal
This only lead to prison where many went that way - we speak of not allowing our kids to be imprisoned because we know it's a grounds to join the gangs
This is such a horrible way to treat anyone, I can’t believe they got away with this😢 💔
very few were or are convicted for their heinous crimes inflicted upon once vunerable children now adults. Truth will always prevail if not in the present but in the furure nothing is hidden forever
The cry of the Pacific . Bravehearts 💔. Major changes needed in the Ministry right across the board . .Pray that no Funding gets put into The United Nations IMF and EU . The Pacific helped build our Country . behind the Veil the System helped tear it down ....Kia Kaha . Famalosi ⚔️🛡️
You guys are amazing, all power to you my brothers.
It’s because of people like you, future generation will have brighter and abuse free environment.
Sending love and healing your way 🥰
Name, shame and share who your abusers were. They're probably dead but there would be some still around. Sending and sharing the aroha to all those put into foster homes. Kei a koutou te mauri. ❤
this is absolutely horrific and sad. How grown adults can do this to children in an institution that should of looked after them but instead made these kids lives a literal hell on earth nightmare. I hope somehow you victims can find peace and i cant express how very sorry i am that this happened to yous😔🙏❤️
Arohanui kia koutou. This should never have happened to you all, by family by government by strangers by religon by culture by race. Having experienced simularities an X ward of state myself at 61yrs of age my heart goes out to you all. Too all those who have passed on from this earth without the chance to bring to light your stories your healing You have not been forgotten by all of us. ❤
So much mana and bravery for speaking out.
Your stories are powerful.
This never should have happened, the crown completely failed you.
Never stop speaking your truth.
Nothing can compensate the broken souls these beautiful men had to endure & so many world wide i hate these demons who roam in power on this earth!!
Take care of your children is the first priority. Keep them out of state care.
Aroha Mai whanau, thank you for sharing your powerful stories, testimonies and most of all, your strength for sharing your life stories R.E.S.P.E.C.T crying is healthy and release of horrible memories, love to you all.
Thank you for sharing. Takes strength and courage to speak up.
A good honest documentary about cruelty in NZ especially our Pasifika Neighbours. Oliver Sutherland an honest man.
😢😢😢😢😢 speechless kalofae some of these people were willing to take their secrets to the grave, good on yous for telling your stories ❤❤❤
Prayers for these victims, such a hard and emotional video to watch. Talofa e, my heart goes out to each victim!
Ashame this is still happening today through ORANGA TAMARIKI and Unfortunatly still nothing will be done.
What has been done to make these abusers accountable for their actions, their crimes of abuse on children, minors in their care? Where is the documentary to show the victims of these crimes that their abusers have been made to pay for what they have put these children through? They were only children!!! Is anything being done to make the abusers pay for their part in subjecting these children to a lifetime sentence of trauma from these heinous acts of abuse? My head spins. How could any human/adult treat children this way? How can systems be allowed to operate like this? How can governments keep turning a blind eye? How? Why?
On YT there is whistleblower about Tasmania in Australia same issues today. It is a disgrace. As if the young in their care become personal property.
I’m so sorry that this happened to these Māori and Pasifika people 😢. Shame on the abusers. I’m sure what they did is for sure haunting them.
This made me so sad😢 My mum told me stories about her time in the girls home and foster homes in the 60s/70s.. all her foster dads raped her and she too had bottles shoved up her private parts in the girls home😢😢 My mum never really healed, she suffered from severe mental illness and passed away 22 years ago, few weeks before she was about to get compensation from acc for her pain and suffering that these ugly monsters put her through😢 I sincerely hope and pray that all you amazing strong survivors get all the help, love and support you need to help you all on your healing journey❤❤❤❤
Mush respect to these wonderful people for coming forward, I can relate to there stories but its just the tip of the iceberg unfortunately.
State care is disgusting!!!
SHAME ON THE ABUSERS!!!
KARMA WILL BE DISHED OUT!!!
JUSTICE WILL BE SERVED!!!
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Watching this documentary truly for the 1st time made me shame to be a New Zealander.
My heart admires these survivors courage and bravery. You know bad stuff happens but it's always NOT our concern as its already happened and "oh well" BUT! 8, 9, & 10 yr Olds being treated like grown criminals by a system that was supposed to protect them is shameful. I can't fathom the pain for these now grown victims.
Have things changed, I don't know. The courage of all that spoke out for this documentary is nothing short of brave.❤
is this the future for maori, pasifika, under this horrible govt coalition
It doesn't seem to matter what govt we have, they all do enquiries, facts about abuse come to light, they say never again and it keeps happening. Been happening for decades and decades.
@@suzannebrown4753 Not just in New Zealand. It has been happening in many other countries around the world. So sad.
My mother said in her day and the street she grew up on they had all different cultures and it was a happy time and everyone mixed & played. But behind closed doors there was DV, abuse both physically & s***ly. One older white girl was SA by her father and everyone knew. Yet nobody not even her mother done anything about it. It's absolutely unbelievable
My goodness this documentary is painful 😢😢😢
Abuse is everywhere not just in families but in every countries
Thank you for sharing your story ❤❤❤❤❤
This was hard to watch.
And to think many suffered in these Pakeha Government institutions for decades. A Treaty of Waitangi Breach on the English Version of the Treaty of Waitangi for the Crown, Failing to give Maori Crown protection and putting them (ALL) in harm's way
time to wake up about this, human emotions are something humans worldwide need to wake up about
the system is a waste of time, and the system and those who govern/ authorities need to pay for this
The shame these children felt is not theirs! It is on the officials who created these "policies of subjugation and dehumanisation", on the people who lacked compassion for the situation these children found themselves in, and on the churches who must have known what was happening and to use "policy" as an excuse for not protecting the most vulnerable of our people is disgusting. Plenty of shame to go around. I'm Maori and I am deeply grateful that I had a mother who loved me enough to protect and nurture me and who ensured I had the best education to prepare me for life in the pakeha world. Auwe ki te kawanatanga pakeha me te rangatira o te iwi maori.
Thank you for speaking up! I hope everyone that has gone through similar experience start speaking their truth, because this is the toxicity of our culture. THE SILENCE!! Sweeping things under the rug and letting the villain get away while the victims suffer quietly. "its not our shame, its theirs" couldn't be anymore truer. My heart goes out to all the survivors of abuse from state and faith institutions, may you find comfort in our God, The Almighty. May the spirit of those abused that have passed on be at peace.
So heart breaking to watch.. my heart goes out to the victims and God bless you all for speaking out so changes can be done.❤❤
Those precious Brothers, unbelievable what they went through and yet they look like good people. I hope they have had access to free counselling, and financial reparations would honestly be least the Government could do.
What a shame to the church for doing these things to the children. How sad of these kids life. John and fred Williams im happy you guys survived sad 😢
i know how you feel...not from nz...went through this in oz....doesnt help when your parents are drop kicks!!!!
Sad things kids still being abused. Thinking of all who standing up ❤
QUOTE OF THE CENTURY: "It's not our shame, it's theirs"!! 😢
During the 1990s, my childhood friends and I, who resided near the Owairaka boy's home, routinely visited the defunct facility during school holidays and weekends. While exploring the premises, we experienced an unsettling feeling, as if the location had a dark history, perhaps associated with past incidents of violence. I extend my empathy to all individuals who endured such distressing experiences during their time at this institution.
And this goes on and on decades ago and not a damn thing any social worker do. How pathetic
What bloody filth they were back in those days treating young and vulnerable kids like that i hope they follow up on their discriminating behavior and take them court for their crimes hope that Institution also of that time are held accountable accordingly of all things i hope ORANGA TAMARIKI and other establishments alike are watching this and are seriously taking notes and insights on how Soul Destroying these New Zealand infrastructures can and have been to both Indigenous and Non Indigenous Societies...SHAME ON THIS COUNTRY.
The abuse has got more sophisticated now with the technology!
The abuse is still the same.
It's still happening. Organisations just change their names, same people doing the same thing or pretending they don't see it.
Respect to these brave people telling their stories.
Brave and Courageous
You are all my heros
#Justicefortheinjustice
good sobering documentary, but why are comments being deleted?
Our apologies. What happened was that the documentary was posted with a small error. We corrected it and reposted. When the new one was posted any comments on the original were no longer visible - sorry about that. Stephen Stehlin
Omg
I'm deeply sorry for what was done to you, and what you went through,
Alofa atu ❤ and God bless you all
And I'll add my two pence. In the early 90s I knew a man who had a job in Weymouth as an unqualified social worker who for some time worked in Weymouth. One night he came down to the pub in Newmarket with 2 of his Weymouth "jailers" - 2 Black US blokes both at least 6'4". They were joking and laughing about beating up 15-year-olds and also sending them out to burgle to order. I was effing disgusted (I'm a nurse) and I rang Judge Mick Brown - at the time the most prominent youth court judge. It runs out he himself spent time in care. Well when I outlined my concerns he did not give a damn and did NOTHING. Later as a Plunket nurse I also have done CYFS notifications where Pacific or Maori social workers, possibly from dysfunctional backgrounds, went along and literally couldn't see the dangers/issues because they had been desensitised all their lives. This flies in the face of Maori for Maori and Pacific for Pasifika providers. I'm sorry to say it but these providers were largely crap and corrupt and did a terrible job. One day I was getting a WOF and ended up chatting to a SW from the local marae who even though I had just met her, she admitted that her Marae organisation lied to gov to get funding for parenting programmes and even driving tests that they did not actually provide. Political correctness is literally the death of society and particularly badly hit are minorities and vulnerable people in the name of shitty DEI.
"We said we had the best race relations in the world but that was all bullsh*t!"
Will be accountable *+*
It's is sad but true. Government and Society will treat each other consistent with an impersonal science value. The biblical value was dispensed with in 1840. In 1980, David Lange said this, "The Treaty of Waitangi was forged in a time when categories mattered, we don't live in that world anymore." He was referring to the absolute moral categories of the Bible. All inhumane activity begins as a result of this. Thank you for your mad video. My heart goes out to the brave people involved in exposing institutionalized tyranny. 💪👍🙏
Still goes on.
My heart hurts and I feel sad hearing the people in the documentary talk about being abused , I nearly cried when the man at the beginning of the documentary was talking about never having told his wife about his pain and abuse . The white people hating sentiment of the “ Expert witness “ in the royal commission was a bitter pill to swallow , I’m sick of being made out to be evil purely because of the colour of my skin , are not past skin colour yet . Sad
I've no words to formulate any type of coherent sentence to describe the emotions I felt watching this 💔😢😡🤬🤢🤮💔😢😭 the hell these kids weren't through or how they felt and still feel is unimaginable
Man that was hard to watch. I can only relate to how some of these people feel as i was sexually abused as a child. Not in state care, but by a family member. Im still trying to find the courage to give counseling a proper go but its so traumatizing having to re tell the "story" of things that happened to me.
I truly hope that every single one of these beautiful humans finds some sort of peace with what they endured at the hands of others ❤❤❤❤
The system still lacks respect and support for human needs these days and will continue to victimise clients unless the government addresses flaws that exist in the support and care provided by nurses and other heath professions in health services. One other solution to address this problem is employing the right nurses and health professionals to work in disability services who understands and respects clients not only as members of society but as human beings. The Ministry of Heath and CCDHB should also pay close attention to education providers where nurses are trained to ensure that they are not only getting a nursing qualification but they are also well equipped with appropriate skills to deliver care/support for clients in disability services. Some nurses don't have any idea how to implement cultural practises in their work at all!
It is indeed a shame. So disgusting how society treated vulnerable and disadvantaged children back in the ‘60s and ‘70s.
PAINFUL!!! BRAVE BRAVE BYOND WORDS
I hope you heal..heal by God's grace..😢
It all starts before state care, Yes state care failed these people but the parents or other family members failed them first resulting in them being put into another bad situation.
Bullshit I had family taken by the state for no reason they came from loving familys
State care is supposed to be there to take care of the abused adolescent to protect them and possibly give them a better life.
Despite what families have done, where else can can the kids turn to if there is no one else protecting them.
That's what state care is supposed to be for. The only issue is trusting the wrong people to take care of the young and vulnerable.
@@DeedeedoesitnopeParents are supposed to take care of their children not state care so like i said it all starts with the parents, if they can't care for their children don't have them.
I understand the abused kids but my grandparents were the best never abused their kids not all the kids taken were from abusive homes
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I agree with where you are coming from, although the reality is there ARE kids today who are living in abusive family homes and all im worried about is children getting killed or killing themselves because of this.
As for state care, they only take kids into custody either temporarily or permanently and try to work with the abused child's relatives to come up with a plan that is sustainable for their child to thrive in. If not then they place them into homes where those responsible aren't doing their job and fulfilling their responsibility.
Im not disagreeing with you as I understand what you're saying although in some cases the family is too toxic for the child to live in and the child needs support more than anything by any means necessary.
I cried with the mens at the end so sad to hear and see i hope this has helped with there healing journey. Much ofa ❤
Where’s the other stories of the people who were asked to share on this documentary anonymously? I remember there were many more stories youse have
Aw these people are lovely, kiwi as. Very Sad to see what happened to them ❤
Last time I went back home to Nz in 99 never went back since
And THANK YOU Father 🙇♀️ for Your Forgiveness of my sins . 🙏🙇♀️🙏❤️❤️❤️
I was in Owairaka boys home secure block 84 85
this must of happend earlier because i never witnessed or heard about this i was in there 12months on aggravated robberry charges remand then i was sententanced to corrective trainning i was 13.
This is so,so sad, I think the Aboriginal people in Australia, went thru the same shit,and those Samoan dads were really bad themselves, Shame on NZ Government, I'm so glad nothing like this happened in Fiji
We need to forgive others . Sorry for errors. 🙇♀️🙏🙇♀️
The worst abuse is that committed by those who were suppose to be protectors. Now you know why The Creator constructed a Hell, for these bastards.
My heart breaks to hear what happen that it's so sad use had to live through it
Our governments shame, the family that's failed yous shame,but not the country,not the people.
Shame on the people more than our country💯
sad as probably still happening today
Sickening!! Our shame ? I think not !! This is the government and the churches involved SHAME !!
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This is shocking to know this took place in Aotearoa and we wonder why their are gangs that inflict violence against anybody that gets in their face 🤔 Those bastards that did this terrible violence against young boys and girls shame on you all .😢
Sad corrupt system, Im proud of you both, all our pacifica people innocent❤🎉❤🎉