One of my favorite things about Stef is that how every record his tone changed and just got more and more awesome and uniquely difficult to copy. Self Titled had a very unique guitar tone on it almost as if there was a slight octave down effect going on.
This guy mixing is damn good..you can give him any guitar with any amps..he can literally make it sound so good when I'm listening using my headphones or monitor speakers..👍👍👍
You nailed the vibe of those albums with these riffs (and this mix) man! Absolutely my favourite Deftones era. Was surprised to see how close you got with the JVM. Maybe also because it’s using the exact same poweramp?
ADA MP2 and EL34 power amp emulation and Marshall IR gives me ATF tones. For Deftones sound I always refer to live performances like Bizarre 98 or Big Day Out 03 for my tone
I talked to steph for a bit at soundcheck twice on this tour, after he told me everything is coming straight from the helix now it blew me away to hear the replication come so damn close… went home immediately and started building out presets, sounds killer man
I did the Negative Feedback potentiometer mod on my JVM. It's the mod that it shouldve came with stock. Decompresses the tone to taste. Great content man 🤟🏼
Dude! Just bought a JMP-1 about a week ago and now your video! Sometimes the universe aligns. Love it on my baritone. Also great with od pedals up front into the clean.
I would love to see a massive shootout between all your Marshall amps just so we can observe their subtle differences. I have a DSL-100, want a JMP-100, and was actually surprised how much I liked the high gain channel on the JVM. ( I wasn't quite as enthused with the JCM-2000 or the lower wattage lunchbox amps but would still love to see how they all stack up. )
JVM 410H ❤️ I've had quite a few amps...but this one stays. Very versatile! (Just a little noisy sometimes with all the gain on tap) I don't think it sounds that articulate with my setup though... And I use it with a 4x12 with V30's. Oh and also... Deftones ❤️
Loved this one dude! I'd really love a video on pairing cabs with heads. Specifically the T-75. Ive found amps like the jcm 800 and the 5150 are great with the T-75s but my recto sounds distant and woofy.
@@RyRyTheBassGuy I think I like the v30 on almost anything because I’ve got some high end hearing loss, and I think all those annoying ice pick frequencies are subdued, but I’m with ya. I love a 5150 through a greenback or t75 cab
Thanks for clarifying the speaker choice. The Internet has given conflicting info on the speakers Stephen uses and it's made it rather difficult to make AT5 presets lol
I instantly subscribed after watching your first video on Deftones. I have loved the channel ever since! Great job again. I probably like the jmp1 preamp best because it's on the albums. Your JVM sounds great though. More Deftones videos would be great!
Stephen Carpenter was the first that truly drawn me to 7 strings and lower tunings. In my opinion he has one of the best tones out there. I do think you got really close but what really made his tone complete was Chi Cheng's bass sound. It melted perfectly into Stephens sound. And yes, play many add9 chords and you basically get there.
Your Videos are so well explained and fun to watch - thank you ! I always tryed to get this JMP-1 Sound into the Helix... A shame that they didn't put the Preamp into the library yet :D Can anymone has a clue how to dial in this tone on the Line6 Helix?
I love these videos! But why is this happening? to me the JVM sound more "professional" "fat" "big" overall. You are using the same power stage (JVM), would you say is it just the design of the JMP vs de JVM? any super major difference in the components? I mean they´re pretty darn close, but if I had to choose I´d say JVM blindfolded.
Oh god ! This vidéo is great and amazing !! but I was hoping to have a deep go into the clean tone too of the White pony album because the clean tone is really important too for Stephen carpenter/ Chino Moreno go for ! I really hope you will make a vidéo about the clean and ambient guitar tone receation and aproach Greetings from belgium, I hope you will see my comment and making my wish come true Wyll
Great video. The only thing i noticed is that there is a picture of his rack in the liner notes of Around The Fur with the JMP-1 instead of the ADA. This kinda makes me miss my old JMP-1 and Mesa Strategy 500.
I think it would be interesting if you did a series where you try and get a good tone with a bad piece of gear. For example, "Hi I'm John from Sonic Drive Studio and today, I will try and get a good tone out of the Pod HD"
U definitely nailed the deftones sound! Is the riff u r playing a song from deftones or did u recreate it? Love the riffs, would like the tabs if u have it 🤟🏻
I've had the Jmp1 for many years and it's a killer classic Marshall tone. Good speaker simulation for direct recording. Works well with a tube power amp or in a tube amp effects loop. I recommend it if you are a fan of the sound of the 90's
That guitar was the first guitar I bought. (Had a Squier Affinity with a JB Jr. and a silver lace in the middle before that :)) Saved up for the Stef in high school and I’ve always really liked it. Put a burstbucker in the bridge and finally put a STK-S7 in the neck this past year bc I’m all about a neck single coil for clean. I think it needs some smaller (maybe stainless?) frets and something different in the middle and I’ll be set. That thing looks so rad though and I lit up seeing it in a thumbnail 😄.
Jvm's od2 might have gotten closer, I always feel like it sounds a little dryer. I personally preferred the jvm tone, but it is an absolute beast after all!
Hey, nice vid, as always. Interesting how to get tone from band red, until we have faces album, they used mesa rectifier, but it sound rly unique. If u make video how to get tone from album until we have faces, I’m be ver happy. Thx and gl. Sry my eng suck
I like the JVM tone more for the fast palm muted parts, overall a bit more scooped and modern metal sounding, but the JMP-1 sounded better to my ear for the big strummed open chords (the extensions of the chords came through clearer). Both great tones, but the JMP-1 definitely has that 90s sound!
I thought the opossite, the JVM for some reason sounded like it had the bloom that is in the classic stephen chords tone and tha JMP-1 sounded more precise in the palm mutes
It’s funny I find this vid now. Been seriously thinking about trading my TSL for a 410. Would still be going into a 1960A with G75’s and greenbacks. The 410 sounds like a ripper!
I bought my ART dst due to its resemblance of the JMP. later I finally bought a JMP and realized I didn't need to own a JMP because I owned the ART DST4
Does the JMP-1 have build in speaker impulses that it's using for the sound? The "room sound" was TOTALLY different for the rack unit, and honestly not particularly flattering...it sounded like an SM-57 in a concrete room. The JVM sounded normal.
No IR’s - it was released way before using and creating IR’s became so common; which as a producer/mix engineer of 15 years, I’ve seen it become a more recent development and the “norm” for a lot of people. Back in the early to mid 2000’s it was either using real amps and cabs, using a PodXT or using Pod Farm in the DAW with it’s algorithmic cabs (which I’ve always used for tracking). Not much else was available! But these days, you could pair the JMP-1 with your favorite power amp emulation and IR loader! 😊
@@Kevin.Kelly. I think a lot of rack preamps really need the right pairing to sound good, it’s such a huge part of the equation. The Mesa and VHT power amps always seem to come out on top for my tastes, I think they juice things up a lot.
@@eds4754 I loved my Mesa 2:90 and 2:100 when I had em. I didn’t like the VHT at all. What I’ve realized throughout all these years is that a rack setup will never sound as good as a tube head. My opinion.
What a great video man!! Love the tone. Question about the JVM. Does volume of your amp go down when the WET knob of fx loop in the back is on 100% as opposed to cca 90% and lower? When the fx loop is engaged. I hear a significant volume drop when the wet is on 100% and I turn on and off the fx loop.
Pretty close my Friend. Nice Job I use a 410h for years + 4x12 1960a. But i never liked the OD channels. pls don´t laugh... i use the clean channel with the Friedman BE-OD Pedal. i think i need another amp? Use a prs mt15 as well, but something is missing. Maybe i should try a PRS Archon? Help !!
@@SonicDriveStudio I believe you. It must have either been the speakers(G12k100s) or a bad tube or something. od1 didn't have enough gain and od2 was very muddy. I got much better tones out of my ada mp1 or triaxis. But both are hard to repair regardless of how they sound.
go to channel for dinner 😂 the deftone jmp was modified by voodoo amps so nearly impossible to recreate that tone, i have some old jmp pramps, one is modified, pair this with a modern poweramp like the mesa 2:90 or some engl and this thing will rock again like there is no tomorrow, same with the ada mp1, right poweramp and gooo! the JVM series is the better bang for your buck in my opinion right now it sounds similar if you want and can do much more, deftones would have used the jvm it it had been available at thas time for sure.
One of my favorite things about Stef is that how every record his tone changed and just got more and more awesome and uniquely difficult to copy. Self Titled had a very unique guitar tone on it almost as if there was a slight octave down effect going on.
Added a low string to his guitar on delft titled
His tone on Self Titled is hands down the best imo
Pleaseeee could you try to recreate their Diamond eye tone?? Since you also have stephens 8 string it would be fun
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This guy mixing is damn good..you can give him any guitar with any amps..he can literally make it sound so good when I'm listening using my headphones or monitor speakers..👍👍👍
My thoughts exactly.
You could have fooled me it sounded perfect! I would love to see more deftones in future videos.
I really love those Carpenter's ESP/LTD series so much. I tried a T-7 Baritone once, and fell in love with it !
The victory amplifier behind you is a freaking beast
Interesting… I always thought Around The Fur is when he switched to the JMP-1. My whole life has been a lie.
Same!
Same here and wondering if his info is accurate?
He did switch to the JMP-1 during the ATF tour cycle. So you’re half correct.
You nailed the vibe of those albums with these riffs (and this mix) man! Absolutely my favourite Deftones era. Was surprised to see how close you got with the JVM. Maybe also because it’s using the exact same poweramp?
ADA MP2 and EL34 power amp emulation and Marshall IR gives me ATF tones. For Deftones sound I always refer to live performances like Bizarre 98 or Big Day Out 03 for my tone
Great video! His sound on Around The Fur was one of the best heavy sounds ever IMO.
I talked to steph for a bit at soundcheck twice on this tour, after he told me everything is coming straight from the helix now it blew me away to hear the replication come so damn close… went home immediately and started building out presets, sounds killer man
Awesome! Did he say which amps and cabs he uses?
Love that Deftones era!!! Very nice lights suited for the occasion and nice review as always mate!!!
I did the Negative Feedback potentiometer mod on my JVM. It's the mod that it shouldve came with stock. Decompresses the tone to taste. Great content man 🤟🏼
Dude! Just bought a JMP-1 about a week ago and now your video! Sometimes the universe aligns. Love it on my baritone. Also great with od pedals up front into the clean.
Love the raw sound of those albums! Really takes me back. Great job catching the vibe dude!
This is my favorite era of Deftones... You crushed it!
I would love to see a massive shootout between all your Marshall amps just so we can observe their subtle differences. I have a DSL-100, want a JMP-100, and was actually surprised how much I liked the high gain channel on the JVM. ( I wasn't quite as enthused with the JCM-2000 or the lower wattage lunchbox amps but would still love to see how they all stack up. )
More Deftonessssssssssssssssssssssssssss stuff pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!
Exactly what I love, want to know, see and hear. So now I have to get a JMP1 as well... Keep it going!
JVM 410H ❤️
I've had quite a few amps...but this one stays. Very versatile! (Just a little noisy sometimes with all the gain on tap)
I don't think it sounds that articulate with my setup though... And I use it with a 4x12 with V30's.
Oh and also... Deftones ❤️
Loved this one dude! I'd really love a video on pairing cabs with heads. Specifically the T-75. Ive found amps like the jcm 800 and the 5150 are great with the T-75s but my recto sounds distant and woofy.
I agree. I've never liked the 5150 V30 pairing. Make sense since the amp wasn't voiced with those speakers in mind.
@@RyRyTheBassGuy I think I like the v30 on almost anything because I’ve got some high end hearing loss, and I think all those annoying ice pick frequencies are subdued, but I’m with ya. I love a 5150 through a greenback or t75 cab
Thanks for clarifying the speaker choice. The Internet has given conflicting info on the speakers Stephen uses and it's made it rather difficult to make AT5 presets lol
Killer tones man!
I would love a helix tutorial for this tone!
Nice sounds with the jvm 👍
The jvm blew it out of the water. It just had soul
That sounds like a snare sample right from Abe's ATF kit
Nailed it! Nice job.
Loved watching this one
I instantly subscribed after watching your first video on Deftones. I have loved the channel ever since! Great job again. I probably like the jmp1 preamp best because it's on the albums. Your JVM sounds great though. More Deftones videos would be great!
where did you get that high pitched snare sound? I like it! what do you use for drum programming?
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Have that same Guitar, rock solid axe. Great vid dude!
Stephen Carpenter was the first that truly drawn me to 7 strings and lower tunings. In my opinion he has one of the best tones out there. I do think you got really close but what really made his tone complete was Chi Cheng's bass sound. It melted perfectly into Stephens sound. And yes, play many add9 chords and you basically get there.
Your Videos are so well explained and fun to watch - thank you ! I always tryed to get this JMP-1 Sound into the Helix... A shame that they didn't put the Preamp into the library yet :D Can anymone has a clue how to dial in this tone on the Line6 Helix?
Do you use chorus type effects? Or just JMP-1 + amp + ir Thanks!
I need to try these settings on my JMP-1! And maybe getting a tube power amp instead of a transistor....
Cool ! I go to buy a JVM 410H with a 1960 BV !! 🙂
the drums sound great too!
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I love these videos! But why is this happening? to me the JVM sound more "professional" "fat" "big" overall. You are using the same power stage (JVM), would you say is it just the design of the JMP vs de JVM? any super major difference in the components? I mean they´re pretty darn close, but if I had to choose I´d say JVM blindfolded.
Oh god ! This vidéo is great and amazing !!
but I was hoping to have a deep go into the clean tone too of the White pony album because the clean tone is really important too for Stephen carpenter/ Chino Moreno go for !
I really hope you will make a vidéo about the clean and ambient guitar tone receation and aproach
Greetings from belgium,
I hope you will see my comment and making my wish come true
Wyll
I would love to see how close you could get with Helix. I bet a blindfolded comparison would be a challenge.
Great video. The only thing i noticed is that there is a picture of his rack in the liner notes of Around The Fur with the JMP-1 instead of the ADA. This kinda makes me miss my old JMP-1 and Mesa Strategy 500.
Interesting! I'm just going by whatever he told me but who knows what stuff they used
@@SonicDriveStudio Heck, maybe it was his live rack. Who knows! haha
That’s why I thought he used a jmp-1 on around the fur until I was today years old
@@rivenbeefHe has said he used ADA MP-1
@@andremessias2974 yes he didn't switch to the jmp-1 until the tour apparently
I think it would be interesting if you did a series where you try and get a good tone with a bad piece of gear. For example, "Hi I'm John from Sonic Drive Studio and today, I will try and get a good tone out of the Pod HD"
Could be fun! I don't really have bad pieces of gear though haha
U definitely nailed the deftones sound! Is the riff u r playing a song from deftones or did u recreate it? Love the riffs, would like the tabs if u have it 🤟🏻
Thanks! It's my own
@@SonicDriveStudio Most impressive! Your riffs sounded like a blend of Deftones mixed with a Gojira vibe. Tuning was Drop C?
JVM has a nice bite to it that sounds great.
I've had the Jmp1 for many years and it's a killer classic Marshall tone. Good speaker simulation for direct recording. Works well with a tube power amp or in a tube amp effects loop. I recommend it if you are a fan of the sound of the 90's
Great video! That's pretty close in the mix! In the mix the most audible difference was the thickness, but maybe a clean boost would fix that.
The interesting thing is that Stef used the bass shift, which makes it sound even more fat
That guitar was the first guitar I bought. (Had a Squier Affinity with a JB Jr. and a silver lace in the middle before that :)) Saved up for the Stef in high school and I’ve always really liked it. Put a burstbucker in the bridge and finally put a STK-S7 in the neck this past year bc I’m all about a neck single coil for clean. I think it needs some smaller (maybe stainless?) frets and something different in the middle and I’ll be set. That thing looks so rad though and I lit up seeing it in a thumbnail 😄.
Great tone! Would love to see how you’d make that tone with a Helix.
Thought he used this on around the fur and then in the latest album in 2020 in the studio?
Hi John love the video!
Would you be able to roughly list the settings stef said he had on his JMP-1?
Deftonessssssss
Jvm's od2 might have gotten closer, I always feel like it sounds a little dryer. I personally preferred the jvm tone, but it is an absolute beast after all!
Hey, nice vid, as always. Interesting how to get tone from band red, until we have faces album, they used mesa rectifier, but it sound rly unique. If u make video how to get tone from album until we have faces, I’m be ver happy. Thx and gl. Sry my eng suck
Id love to see u riffing the Badlander vs Dual.
I like the JVM tone more for the fast palm muted parts, overall a bit more scooped and modern metal sounding, but the JMP-1 sounded better to my ear for the big strummed open chords (the extensions of the chords came through clearer). Both great tones, but the JMP-1 definitely has that 90s sound!
I thought the opossite, the JVM for some reason sounded like it had the bloom that is in the classic stephen chords tone and tha JMP-1 sounded more precise in the palm mutes
It’s funny I find this vid now. Been seriously thinking about trading my TSL for a 410. Would still be going into a 1960A with G75’s and greenbacks. The 410 sounds like a ripper!
JMP1 !!!
Goed man!
Could you please do Slayer - Seasons in the Abyss tone video ?
I bought my ART dst due to its resemblance of the JMP. later I finally bought a JMP and realized I didn't need to own a JMP because I owned the ART DST4
Those are awesome preamps! Wish I wouldn't have sold mine
JVM is stronger and gave more body but JMP is extremely close and way cheaper.
would you mind sharing the DIs of these riffs, if you have them?
how about a jcm2000? there’s one close to me for like 650 bucks
Been trying to sound like him for a while been somewhat close
YUSSSSSSSS
hey guys, is there a channel similar to this one but using multi effects?
Hello could you help me please, I’m not sure what should I use for controller? footswitch or midi?Thank you. 🙏
Hello am looking at getting that jmp -1 how do you set those up am new to that stuff 😂
What is he using the Hyper Fuzz for?
You should try periphery
It would be dope if you played Deftones songs
Does the JMP-1 have build in speaker impulses that it's using for the sound? The "room sound" was TOTALLY different for the rack unit, and honestly not particularly flattering...it sounded like an SM-57 in a concrete room. The JVM sounded normal.
No IR’s - it was released way before using and creating IR’s became so common; which as a producer/mix engineer of 15 years, I’ve seen it become a more recent development and the “norm” for a lot of people. Back in the early to mid 2000’s it was either using real amps and cabs, using a PodXT or using Pod Farm in the DAW with it’s algorithmic cabs (which I’ve always used for tracking). Not much else was available!
But these days, you could pair the JMP-1 with your favorite power amp emulation and IR loader! 😊
Dude! Where did you get those drums?
JVM absolutely stomps all over the JMP-1 here. MAYBE another more coloured power amp would give the JMP-1 more heft.
I always loved it with my Mesa power amp. It didn’t sound right with any others to my ears.
@@Kevin.Kelly. I think a lot of rack preamps really need the right pairing to sound good, it’s such a huge part of the equation. The Mesa and VHT power amps always seem to come out on top for my tastes, I think they juice things up a lot.
@@eds4754 I loved my Mesa 2:90 and 2:100 when I had em. I didn’t like the VHT at all. What I’ve realized throughout all these years is that a rack setup will never sound as good as a tube head. My opinion.
I think JMP-1 did a better job.
As expected JMP-1 sounded like a transistor pedal in comparison to JVM)
do you know if your JB is wired to a 250k or 500k pot? I'm thinking of getting a JB for one of my guitars.
500k I think
Go with a 500k unless it's on a basswood or Poplar Super strat style guitar.
@@steves12strings it's a mahogany jackson super-strat so 500k seems to be the way to go then.
What size strings are you using for that tuning?
11s
What a great video man!! Love the tone. Question about the JVM. Does volume of your amp go down when the WET knob of fx loop in the back is on 100% as opposed to cca 90% and lower? When the fx loop is engaged. I hear a significant volume drop when the wet is on 100% and I turn on and off the fx loop.
Hmm I don't know to be honest
I can hear volume changing when I ring out a chord and turn the WET knob up and down between 100% and less with fx loop engaged.
It does. Something about the bypass makes it happen at 100% wet.
@@steves12strings A bit of a shame.But good the amp has the two master volumes for compensating the volume drop.
first riff sounds like gojira.
You always do great on the tones but something about the riffs isn't right.
Pretty close my Friend. Nice Job
I use a 410h for years + 4x12 1960a. But i never liked the OD channels.
pls don´t laugh... i use the clean channel with the Friedman BE-OD Pedal.
i think i need another amp?
Use a prs mt15 as well, but something is missing.
Maybe i should try a PRS Archon?
Help !!
What sort of tone are you looking for? My demo for the Archon should come next week btw!
@@SonicDriveStudio what a coincidence. I'm also happy about the review of the Archon. I like the Adam Jones tone.
The new Archon is much smoother with deeper and more musical overtones than the MT-15.
@@steves12strings Thx for the advise. Can´t wait to see your Review. Keep on going. :)
@@scrinbot I'll see what I can do! Thank you!
In the beginning you kind of sounded like Gojira
Yeah I felt that too, it's the groove
My jmp1 never sounded like that if it did I'd keep it
Mine isn't modded
@@SonicDriveStudio I believe you. It must have either been the speakers(G12k100s) or a bad tube or something. od1 didn't have enough gain and od2 was very muddy.
I got much better tones out of my ada mp1 or triaxis. But both are hard to repair regardless of how they sound.
i dont understand why you dont play deftones songs. it would be 100% video
I hear no difference
go to channel for dinner 😂 the deftone jmp was modified by voodoo amps so nearly impossible to recreate that tone, i have some old jmp pramps, one is modified, pair this with a modern poweramp like the mesa 2:90 or some engl and this thing will rock again like there is no tomorrow, same with the ada mp1, right poweramp and gooo! the JVM series is the better bang for your buck in my opinion right now it sounds similar if you want and can do much more, deftones would have used the jvm it it had been available at thas time for sure.
Eat something chunky please!
@@SonicDriveStudio dinner always gets cold because i`m writing here but its worth it 😃