C&O #1309 arrives at the CSX/WMSR interchange for restoration at the Ridgeley WV shops. Produced August 9th by Allegany Preservation Society Limited and Railheadz.
@@armageddon1981 Ik, I've heard of that. That really sucks, I bet a lot of people like me were looking forward to riding behind the Big Boy this year, but that won't happen for a while thanks to "you know who" I'm so sorry you had to go through this, hopefully sometime this year it'll start up again
@@shanewalters4171 yeah i hope they change it but I've had to tell a lot of railfans that follow my IG the bad news. I work in the Chicago Service Unit and the residents of West Chicago, Illinois were really stumped. It's a small town but really big on railroading as two famous junctions and tower still stand there.
We got an update, restoration has resumed this month, like you said for the 6 months part, she should be scheduled to run this November depending on the state of Covid19
That's quite the load. I was wondering what kind of crane would be needed to offload the engine etc. I had RUclips born visions of cranes toppling over. But they knew how to do it for real. Uh, more RUclips jargon, like a boss!
Ik, I saw them, and as of now, she's almost finished, she needs another 6 months for completion that will need to wait due to Covid19, the virus is expected to die down this June/July, so she should be good to go soon
i had a vhs tape train documentary that featured the western maryland scenic, it was from the early 90s cant remember what steam loco was featured but the locomotive was all brown and grimy looking but it still ran. it might have been the quality of tape though.
So reading a previous comment, when 1309 is completed is 734 going to be moth balled or are both going to be running? WOuld be nice to see them both run. I know it takes money and time with these beast, but to keep history going is great. Like this video. Please subscribe to my channel, I am subscribing to yours. Kflannigan98
Hello, finding my way to writing about these videos. That's my wife's job, why would I want to impede on that. As to the last comment, 734 should just be going through a 100 yr inspection. Why wouldn't one want to put her back together if she's already running.
+kflannigan98 but rumor was that 734 is making a final run this year in the month of april they announces the farewell to 734 that change the wmsr forever so if many of wmsr fan want to see 734 final run i suggest you make there this month and enjoy 734 life time moment for the final run
I remember back when the Western Maryland RR employed hundreds in shops and yards in Ridgeley WV. Across the river in Cumberland there were thousands working for the B&O. These weren't seasonal tourism gigs they were high paying careers with a pension and livelihood to raise a family. That's when the Queen City was worth living in!!!
The good news is she's almost finished, she just needs time for the virus to slow down before she'll reach her final stages in 6 months operating under her power for the first time;) great to see a former Maryland Mallet operate again;)
+Edward Jonez Having moved railroad equipment by rail, three is often not enough. Even when flat switching things can go bump in a bad way. Ever see a coupler get split open? I have and if we hadn't cabled the side dump down well enough, it would have been on the ground instead of still on the flatcar.
+gravelydon In " Bethlehem Steel's Mechanic's Guide to Wire Rope". They state, " two high quality clamps properly torqued is safe and adequate for any application." If done right the eye or socket in the rope set will part before anything else gives. I've got over 50 years of working in the forest, railways, oil patch and at sea. Yup, I've seen busted couplers a few times. usually from poor throttle control, too much train without helpers or a combination of factors. Have a good one.
+Edward Jonez Yes, I know that. I had to pass a course on it. I also got the top score in a crane inspection class and have the shirt to prove it. :-) The really most likely spot to fail is the single section of the wire rope between the two loops unless the rope gets cut. But then again, I've dealt with railroads and you'll always find that when you have a special shipment, you run into one of mother nature's special vacuum fillers. In 1309's case, like my last trip on the Cardinal, it was a truck driver. And by split open, I didn't mean a broken knuckle, I meant a coupler head that was nearly sheared in two. In a yard. Crews on the road tend to be a little bit more careful. Yard crews, not so much. Most likely occurred from a closed knuckle coupling at excessive speed. Less than 15 miles from the end of a 1000 mile trip in a flat switching yard. Ruined a perfectly good radial pivot coupler. Railroad tried for about a year to find a replacement but couldn't. Railroad hauled it at the rear of the train with a red flag in the knuckle the rest of the way after they tried to weld the crack somewhat back closed. That meant they had to run it around the balloon track too as when it was damaged, it was facing forward. Have a good, safe day.
I'd wonder if UP will ever run its steam program again,or even restore its Big Boy 4014,before 2022..... or farm out the 4014 restoration to others to get her operational... just my 2 cents......
yo- yesterday i was at the Berlin Farmers Market in Camden County,N.J. and i got this Early 2000's By K-line Pennsylvnia 4-6-2 #3019 and it remiminded me of the Number 1309 so the Guy gave it to me for half price and it runs great!,0:31
the way i really love trains and i take care of my own,i would really love to ride this summer 2016,with #1309, pulling if it's in good running order and good working condition 😉
I just spent a weekend railfanning and riding behind 1309. Awesome locomotive, and cool to see how she originally arrived there and in what condition. So glad they were able to restore her.
There a stream engine in NEED of repair and the people who own the stream train can't get enough money to fix it. I'M POSTING THIS ASK FOR HELP! LIRR would love to have it back in working order.
Frostburg is going to need a bigger turntable! I can already tell the one they have now isn't going to work. The #734 hardly leaves any track already. And they expect this monster to fit on there?! It won't! The locomotive is too long!
they will have to do the same thing to BIG BOY to restore it the engine truck has to be taken out and serviced then the tender and the locomotive itself have to be restored.
Spencer VanOchten Shunters were built small not just because it was cheap; they were designed to move around switchyards quickly. And to haul long rakes of cars for marshaling, they had to have powerful engines.
I wonder if they consciously decided to push around a Mallet with one of the smallest diesels ever built, or if that's just what they had fired up and ready that day.
i wonder why most railroad companies still use old equipment like those dozers. i like that they are still using them, but why don't they use the newer machines?
These "Sidewinders" as some call them, have turned out to be the most efficient rail maintenance devices, over the old "Big Hooks" and other cranes, as they are eaily and quickly transported to the site by truck/trailer, can more easily navigate difficult terrain - mud - unlevel ground, etc. They are more quickly rigged, can work in tandem and more, and can pick up some serious weight. As to age, well, they are properly maintained, and if it's not broke, don't fix it. Until someone comes up with an efficient sky hook, these units will see service long into the future. -- Doc
I got good news and bad news, the good news is she's almost finished and she'll be done with her final stages in 6 months, the bad news is due to stupidass Covid19 thanks to dumbass China, we're gonna have to wait for a while until it eventually dies down for the restoration to continue, aside from the bad news, she'll be up and running in no time;)
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She's almost done now, we just need to wait for Covid19 to slow down and in 6 more months, she'll be operating again;)
I'm a conductor for UPRR and sadly our Senior Vice President of operations cancelled the UPRR Big Boy Excursion this year.
@@armageddon1981 Ik, I've heard of that. That really sucks, I bet a lot of people like me were looking forward to riding behind the Big Boy this year, but that won't happen for a while thanks to "you know who" I'm so sorry you had to go through this, hopefully sometime this year it'll start up again
@@shanewalters4171 yeah i hope they change it but I've had to tell a lot of railfans that follow my IG the bad news. I work in the Chicago Service Unit and the residents of West Chicago, Illinois were really stumped. It's a small town but really big on railroading as two famous junctions and tower still stand there.
@@armageddon1981 I see, sounds cool;) glad I got to be friends with a railroad worker;)
We got an update, restoration has resumed this month, like you said for the 6 months part, she should be scheduled to run this November depending on the state of Covid19
That's quite the load. I was wondering what kind of crane would be needed to offload the engine etc. I had RUclips born visions of cranes toppling over. But they knew how to do it for real. Uh, more RUclips jargon, like a boss!
that dozer operator was like "I don't need no stinking ramps!"
If you search her up now, you can see pictures of her being test fired and the tender completely repainted.
Ik, I saw them, and as of now, she's almost finished, she needs another 6 months for completion that will need to wait due to Covid19, the virus is expected to die down this June/July, so she should be good to go soon
i had a vhs tape train documentary that featured the western maryland scenic, it was from the early 90s cant remember what steam loco was featured but the locomotive was all brown and grimy looking but it still ran. it might have been the quality of tape though.
Another big articulated locomotive on the rails again!
awesome video :)
and that was the day that 1309 got to be a pacific
Did Hulcher donate their time and equipment for that lift? I know their services are very expensive.
Theres still one alive!?
2.
I think that Big boy getting restored has started something
+Destinee Meyer and 611
arthur 4014 if you have not noticed is a 4-8-8-4 combination unlike his sister 3985 which is also a 4-6-6-4 type
Again, 1309 will be the largest *in service*, neither UP 3985 or 4014 are *in service*.
Zach Pumphery first of all 4014 will be because restoration is almost complete. Second how is 3985 not in service
@@subzerofromny735 3985 needs it's fra mandated 1472 day boiler inspection and was retired after 4014 returned to service
The Sign Would Say "Do Not Have Sex With the Engine"
Why
As of January 1st, 2021.
SHES DONE! Moved under her own power!
This is exciting!
So glad there's projects going on like this still! Bring'em all back to life I say!
So reading a previous comment, when 1309 is completed is 734 going to be moth balled or are both going to be running? WOuld be nice to see them both run. I know it takes money and time with these beast, but to keep history going is great. Like this video. Please subscribe to my channel, I am subscribing to yours. Kflannigan98
Hello, finding my way to writing about these videos. That's my wife's job, why would I want to impede on that. As to the last comment, 734 should just be going through a 100 yr inspection. Why wouldn't one want to put her back together if she's already running.
thinkspeakact
For the record...there is 1 foot clearance on each end of 1309 on the Frostburg turntable.
+kflannigan98 734 is going through the federally required 10 year inspection. It will be disassembled and rebuilt.
+kflannigan98 but rumor was that 734 is making a final run this year in the month of april they announces the farewell to 734 that change the wmsr forever so if many of wmsr fan want to see 734 final run i suggest you make there this month and enjoy 734 life time moment for the final run
10 years!?!? No! 734 is going down for a 1,472 day inspection which is about 4.5 to 5 years.
I remember back when the Western Maryland RR employed hundreds in shops and yards in Ridgeley WV. Across the river in Cumberland there were thousands working for the B&O. These weren't seasonal tourism gigs they were high paying careers with a pension and livelihood to raise a family. That's when the Queen City was worth living in!!!
Anyone else notice the DO NOT HUMP sign as if the engine was humping the flatcar?
WOW, can't wait to see this beauty restored and under steam again! That front-end is awesome-looking w/the pumps up high like that!
The good news is she's almost finished, she just needs time for the virus to slow down before she'll reach her final stages in 6 months operating under her power for the first time;) great to see a former Maryland Mallet operate again;)
She's running now and beautiful to behold
At 6:44, 1309 transformed into a really shoddy 4-6-2!
wouldn´t it actually be a 2-3-1 since you normally only counts axles and not wheels :P
Max, steam engines have always been labeled by number of tires, not axles
ah ok ^^
Imagine the tractive effort those drive wheels are putting down now lol
@@timclarkjr1222 It depends on where you are from, in America and Britain, they count by tires, but in Russia, they count by axles.
Am I wrong? Cause I'm pretty sure only the 1600 class are allaganys
As of today....
85% complete!
FINISHED!
Generally two wire rope clamps per turn are good enough for any load. They sure were extra cautious.
+Edward Jonez Having moved railroad equipment by rail, three is often not enough. Even when flat switching things can go bump in a bad way. Ever see a coupler get split open? I have and if we hadn't cabled the side dump down well enough, it would have been on the ground instead of still on the flatcar.
+gravelydon In " Bethlehem Steel's Mechanic's Guide to Wire Rope". They state, " two high quality clamps properly torqued is safe and adequate for any application." If done right the eye or socket in the rope set will part before anything else gives. I've got over 50 years of working in the forest, railways, oil patch and at sea. Yup, I've seen busted couplers a few times. usually from poor throttle control, too much train without helpers or a combination of factors. Have a good one.
+Edward Jonez Yes, I know that. I had to pass a course on it. I also got the top score in a crane inspection class and have the shirt to prove it. :-) The really most likely spot to fail is the single section of the wire rope between the two loops unless the rope gets cut.
But then again, I've dealt with railroads and you'll always find that when you have a special shipment, you run into one of mother nature's special vacuum fillers. In 1309's case, like my last trip on the Cardinal, it was a truck driver.
And by split open, I didn't mean a broken knuckle, I meant a coupler head that was nearly sheared in two. In a yard. Crews on the road tend to be a little bit more careful. Yard crews, not so much. Most likely occurred from a closed knuckle coupling at excessive speed. Less than 15 miles from the end of a 1000 mile trip in a flat switching yard. Ruined a perfectly good radial pivot coupler. Railroad tried for about a year to find a replacement but couldn't. Railroad hauled it at the rear of the train with a red flag in the knuckle the rest of the way after they tried to weld the crack somewhat back closed. That meant they had to run it around the balloon track too as when it was damaged, it was facing forward.
Have a good, safe day.
Might as well divide the load further, right?
Overkill doesn't usually fail.
I'd wonder if UP will ever run its steam program again,or even restore its Big Boy 4014,before 2022..... or farm out the 4014 restoration to others to get her operational... just my 2 cents......
that sign tho' don't fuck train
CSX delivers C&O #1309 now WMSR #1309. But oops seems like the train carrying C&O #1309 hit a fallen railroad crossing.
yo- yesterday i was at the Berlin Farmers Market in Camden County,N.J. and i got this Early 2000's By K-line Pennsylvnia 4-6-2 #3019 and it remiminded me of the Number 1309 so the Guy gave it to me for half price and it runs great!,0:31
Do not hump. i seen that before who nodus the sign?
Can someone tell me if this is a firebox grate from a H-6 class Mallet 2-6-6-2? I found this at a site where one exploded. imgur.com/gallery/GdN6h9H
found this train on a video of the train hauling it hitting a downed crossing post
Same lol
me to
Ya.
TheStuffz of
I did too
However When 1309 Was With The CSX Locamotives It Hited A Crossing Signal
When i saw "allehgany" a thougt of 2-6-6-6 locomotive didnt expect this but still good
this train hit a broken crossing signal on the tracks in Brunswick, MD
Signal was struck by a semi truck
no damages to train
microbusss I
the way i really love trains and i take care of my own,i would really love to ride this summer 2016,with #1309,
pulling if it's in good running order and good working condition 😉
The diesel pulling it hit a railroad crossing that fell over and had to make an emergency stop.
"Extra" cool. The deep-well flatcars really make it.
No Bluetooth or AC on this thing? No wonder they scrapped it!
Jeremy I would love to and I knew of that, I just don't have the funds to go. I was planning for tomorrow's runs, but food and bills before play.
I just spent a weekend railfanning and riding behind 1309. Awesome locomotive, and cool to see how she originally arrived there and in what condition. So glad they were able to restore her.
There a stream engine in NEED of repair and the people who own the stream train can't get enough money to fix it. I'M POSTING THIS ASK FOR HELP! LIRR would love to have it back in working order.
734 is officially coupled to it's tender.
I laughed so hard at 1:33 when a sign on that car said do not hump
+Jake Abernathy i thougt wtf
+Jake Abernathy that is so they don't switch it into Cumberland Yard that yard has an active hump and cars like these don't belong there.
Lol
poor thing cant get any
It it referring to the hump yard. That type of car cant go down a hump yard and with the cargo on it could not go down a hump yard
Frostburg is going to need a bigger turntable! I can already tell the one they have now isn't going to work. The #734 hardly leaves any track already. And they expect this monster to fit on there?! It won't! The locomotive is too long!
I don't know about you, but I cant hardly wait to see this thing running.
Arrived at Cumberland, Maryland, 1309 will be unloaded the flatbed car and heads to shops for overhaul.
WOW! That'll be impressive once it's steaming.....
It is steaming already.
Little engine can do big mighty tasks 1:07
they will have to do the same thing to BIG BOY to restore it the engine truck has to be taken out and serviced then the tender and the locomotive itself have to be restored.
What type of engine is this, it’s not a Bigboy, so can anyone tell me please
Its an unspecified class
good bye 734, we will miss you...and hello 1309, we welcome you!
Que bom, parece que a restauração da "Maria-Fumaça" será destinada a passeios turísticos, não?
1:06 that little dude must be tough dude he's hauling an engine 9x the size and weight of him
Spencer VanOchten Shunters were built small not just because it was cheap; they were designed to move around switchyards quickly. And to haul long rakes of cars for marshaling, they had to have powerful engines.
Also, "the little dude" probably has been geared down so much, the torque is enough to move mountains.
They're really just going to let 734 weather outside for 15 years?
that engine is huge 😄
Why no showing the setup, lift, and rail car removal, rather than just the wheels hitting the track?
Awesome C&O 1309.
It's a train on a train too loco.
Does anyone know how long this restoration will take and when she'll be under steam again?
damn that plymoth switcher is CLEAN!
What's the expected C&O #1309 completed restoration date?
1309
Amazing that those four pipeline laying dozers could dead lift the engine.
Curious on what all the doohickies are for on the front of the smoke box.
That's an h-6 it's the last loco to roll out of the Baldwin locomotive works
That train has cost this town so much money. It should be scrapped.
NO IT DIDN'T?
@@theextremeanimator4721 you don't live here.
@@turdferguson7813 I know I don't
But it's rude to trashtalk a valuable piece of HISTORY...
How was that for precision! Well done people, my great respect.
How do they expect to fit this beast on their turntable?
4:12 *The legends meet!*
Was this the one that was modelled after the cab forwards?
Why can't people comment on MY videos?
I wonder if they consciously decided to push around a Mallet with one of the smallest diesels ever built, or if that's just what they had fired up and ready that day.
Small size doesn't necessarily mean small power. It got the job done, and that's what matters.
The locomotive was painted just days before the move, so I think they were showing it off. :P
That's great!.
Interesting double bogey on the wagon carrying the loco.
I'd just like to say that its a great time to be a fan of steam locomotives.
What about last year?
First I read "final destination" and thought "static display on a playground", but then I read "to be restored for operation" and was happy again.
As of today...85% complete.
What's 734 doing?
Rusting
Is the WMSR planning another Scenic Service?
I was on this engine went in its cab and got the blow the whistle
i wonder why most railroad companies still use old equipment like those dozers. i like that they are still using them, but why don't they use the newer machines?
These "Sidewinders" as some call them, have turned out to be the most efficient rail maintenance devices, over the old "Big Hooks" and other cranes, as they are eaily and quickly transported to the site by truck/trailer, can more easily navigate difficult terrain - mud - unlevel ground, etc. They are more quickly rigged, can work in tandem and more, and can pick up some serious weight. As to age, well, they are properly maintained, and if it's not broke, don't fix it. Until someone comes up with an efficient sky hook, these units will see service long into the future.
-- Doc
can't you turn a brand new dozer into one of them though?
It looks to have been a 2-6-6-2.
Marvelous cinematography.
The fact that this thing is on rails, on a train car that's also on rails, cracks me up.
But also amazing
Get my a shay, den I give u money.
Nice looking 2662 getherdun
Superbe machine 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Gotta love those FRA hand signals *cough* *cough* ;)
FRA hand signals? Didn't know those existed.
Where did this engine came from?
the running gear looks great
and with an auto coaler as well
Des vrais professionnels 👏👏👏
Nice to see 734 again
Train on a Train and pulling by a train.😉
He's a train disguised as a train playing another train!!!😂😂😂 Don't mind me just a UPRR Conductor throwing some humor in😂😂😂
labas
6:29 now she's a Pacific
I can't wait to see it get restored! :D
I got good news and bad news, the good news is she's almost finished and she'll be done with her final stages in 6 months, the bad news is due to stupidass Covid19 thanks to dumbass China, we're gonna have to wait for a while until it eventually dies down for the restoration to continue, aside from the bad news, she'll be up and running in no time;)
that is one strong little switcher!
Alto Saxophonist Erik Karl yeah lol!
+Alto Saxophonist Erik Karl I have one in HO Scale !!!
Is this going to be restored?
yes
can i scrap it?
Eric Jenkins moron hell no
why not its so beautiful...
Eric Jenkins because it should be running not made into pots
Cockroach they can employ more people mining or working for me and they make 10 times more.
Cockroach bullshit so why are there so many tourist lines? hmmm? and they get more for selling it to another owner than the scrap!